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IRC Log for 2014-03-04

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[2:39] -sendak.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[2:39] -sendak.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident
[2:39] -sendak.freenode.net- *** No Ident response
[2:39] -sendak.freenode.net- *** Found your hostname
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[2:39] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america'
[2:39] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::1a3 on Mon Dec 10 22:15:29 UTC 2012
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[2:53] <gnarface> ooh, i got further compiling vlc for raspbian wheezy
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[3:02] <azizLIGHTS> shiftplusone: no mysql
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[9:08] <jammy> Hi
[9:08] <jammy> Ecllipse is support for raspbian or not
[9:12] <shiftplusone> it should 'run' but it's a beast that can struggle on a desktop, so don't expect it to be useful
[9:13] <jammy> I want to develop one app
[9:13] <jammy> on that Ecliipse
[9:14] <hifi> dev on a real desktop, run on pi
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[9:16] <OderU-97> Hi
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[9:17] <OderU-97> i have problem with import serial module in python3
[9:17] <OderU-97> i did read i have to rename serial 2.7 to serial 3
[9:18] <OderU-97> but i cannot find the detailed instructions
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[9:34] <jammy> How to develop an app on raspbian os
[9:34] <shiftplusone> in what language?
[9:35] <shiftplusone> and what sort of app
[9:35] <shiftplusone> and what experience do you have?
[9:35] <Kingi> u code the program and compile it
[9:35] <Kingi> he doesnt have any
[9:35] <jammy> I am intern student
[9:35] <Kingi> a month ago he was asking about thow to design a new media player with out knowin what C language is
[9:36] <jammy> es
[9:36] <shiftplusone> Oh, I remember
[9:36] <shiftplusone> sleep time
[9:36] <shiftplusone> 'night
[9:36] <jammy> not media player app
[9:36] <OderU-97> o
[9:36] <OderU-97> ow an app app
[9:37] <jammy> because there is so many codes in that player
[9:37] <gnarface> jammy: try this: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk-tutorial/stable/
[9:37] <jammy> we cant do single
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[9:38] <gnarface> jammy: if that was meant to be a response to me, i don't know what you mean by "single" in this context
[9:39] <jammy> no
[9:39] <jammy> last month i asked formedia playe app development
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[9:40] <jammy> so that only i send i am single person
[9:40] <Kingi> jammy
[9:40] <Kingi> u need to know what program u want to create
[9:40] <Kingi> u cant just ask "how do i make an app"
[9:40] <Kingi> or well the answer is u write a code that does what u want it to
[9:41] <shiftplusone> jammy, pick a language, buy a book and off you go. If you don't want to buy a book, there are lots of free resources online. If it turns out the language is not for you and you want to try another one, do so. Python is a good starting point for beginners.
[9:41] <Kingi> C is often used as a teaching language
[9:41] <gnarface> jammy: its not like windows where there is only one language. you have to decide what the app will do so you can pick the appropriate language(s)
[9:41] <shiftplusone> Then you might want to look into C++ or C, depending on how close to the hardware you want to work.
[9:42] <jammy> i am an embedded student
[9:43] <shiftplusone> then C will serve you well
[9:43] <jammy> i know c only
[9:43] <jammy> i want to develop one media player app
[9:44] <gnarface> jammy: if you need graphics/sound SDL might be a good choice. if you want buttons/widgets GTK is good. both work well with C
[9:44] <shiftplusone> SDL is fun to poke around in*. (*if you're into that sort of thing)
[9:45] <shiftplusone> anyway, best of luck.
[9:46] <jammy> this gtk is just like Ecllipse
[9:46] <shiftplusone> it is nothing like eclipse
[9:46] <shiftplusone> gtk is a widget toolkit, eclipse is an ide
[9:47] <jammy> how toinstall it
[9:47] <jammy> and develop app on it
[9:47] <shiftplusone> You've been linked to a tutorial
[9:48] <jammy> this link
[9:48] <jammy> :https://developer.gnome.org/gtk-tutorial/stable/
[9:48] <gnarface> that is the one
[9:49] <jammy> any other is there
[9:49] <shiftplusone> google will give you more than you can possibly read
[9:50] <jammy> k
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[9:52] <gnarface> hmm. i heard efl stuff can make for great apps on arm hardware too, but i can't speak for how complex it might be
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[9:52] <gnarface> the nice thing about gtk and SDL is they're conceptually simple
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[9:57] <jammy> My objective is : I want to run some videos on my own media player app on raspbian os
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[9:59] <mdorenka> hi, in my apt sources, can i change wheezy for stable without problems?
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[10:58] <Kingi> http://rt.com/on-air/russian-president-putin-statement/
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[12:08] <OderU-97> hi, python programmers here
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> was that a question or statement.. :)
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[13:34] <mdorenka> in my apt sources, can i change wheezy for stable without problems?
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[13:37] <gordonDrogon> wheezy is stable right now.
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> however when jessie becomes stable then you'll start to pull updates from there rather than wheezy.
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[13:40] <CaelThunderwing> i'm bahsing my head at gettng the raspberry pi Cross compiler toolchain to install in my VM (xubunti 13.10 x64) gone thru all the steps down to adding the path in my .bashrc yet Still defaults elsewhere than where specified.
[13:41] <CaelThunderwing> been at this for wehile all just to compile the latest update to scummVM (1.6.0) vs whats on the raspbian repos (1.4.1)
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[13:53] <gordonDrogon> why not compile directly on the Pi?
[13:57] <CaelThunderwing> 2+hrs ? No thanks
[13:58] <SirLagz> CaelThunderwing: do it overnight when you're sleeping ?
[13:58] <CaelThunderwing> and thats on an 16/496 ramsplit
[13:58] <CaelThunderwing> (im using the ModelB pi)
[14:02] <CaelThunderwing> going to get a coffee, clear my head and keep trying to get this to work before i just say screw it take a nap and let the pi compile.
[14:02] <CaelThunderwing> and pray it doesnt error durring
[14:03] <SirLagz> you probably would have already compiled it on the Pi if you hadn't spent all the time setting up the cross compiler lol
[14:03] <SirLagz> CaelThunderwing: I had the same issue as you and wasted a whole day setting up a cross compiler
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> if it's a decent Makefile you won't re-compile stuff that compiled OK in the first place.
[14:05] <SirLagz> and who *doesn't* make a decent makefile these days ! :P
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> mine are ... adequate :)
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[14:08] <SirLagz> time to setup a new VMWare box
[14:08] <SirLagz> fun times
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[14:50] <CaelThunderwing> back (yay for issues at the bank
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[15:15] <CaelThunderwing> got around the Issue of Xubuntu not finding the Pi's C++ Toolchain by Specifying for Host platform arm-bcm2708hardfp-linux-gnueabi
[15:17] <CaelThunderwing> but Barfs when it starts Compiling smush
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[16:24] <CaelThunderwing> gave up trying to setup a Working VM to cross Compile and now i run into another C-Block... http://pastebin.com/xEr00L6K
[16:25] <CaelThunderwing> maybe the hassle to get ScummVM 1.6.0 to compile is Why its not on the Repos and we only have access to 1.4.1
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[16:25] <CaelThunderwing> (which is fine and dandy for Beneith a Steel Sky)
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[20:25] <wind-rider> good evening
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[20:36] <sliddjur> Hello guys. Im looking to setup a website. its gonna be a portfolio of some kind. Anyone know a simple CMS that runs on nginx and preferably sqlite3?
[20:36] <sliddjur> (and php)
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[20:52] <wind-rider> can somebody tell me how and when packages will be updated when upstream releases a new version?
[20:52] <wind-rider> resiprocate / repro was updated two weeks ago to include webrtc support and I'm wondering when it'll be available for raspbian
[20:53] <wind-rider> (raspbian does have packages for the previous version)
[20:54] <sney> raspbian jessie pulls automatically from debian jessie. plugwash said it takes about 12 hours to sync I think
[20:54] <sney> raspbian wheezy is frozen.
[20:55] <wind-rider> sney: oh, you're right that there is a new version available for jessie
[20:55] <wind-rider> I didn't know there was a raspbian version of jessie already
[20:55] <wind-rider> thank you!
[20:55] <sney> np
[20:55] <sney> like debian jessie, it's a little hinky
[20:55] <sney> and like debian jessie, you shouldn't mix binaries from it with wheezy
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> sliddjur, fwiw, I installed the full whack of apache,mysql&php on a Pi some time back, then installed wordress on that... it worked.
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> sliddjur, it wasn't the fastest and WP plugins are where the real hog was, but it was usable.
[21:01] <sliddjur> gordonDrogon, i tried some different stuff.. but one "lightweight" used 20% cpu per pageload
[21:01] <sliddjur> I dont think wordpress could have been any faster?
[21:05] <gordonDrogon> if you don't have any plugins!
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[21:21] <sliddjur> Is there a "light" version of apache?
[21:23] <falten> lighttpd and nginx are both less taxing i believe
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[22:37] <sney> even apache-mpm-worker is fairly "light" compared to standard apache prefork
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[22:37] <sney> php tends to eat more ram overall than the httpd
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[22:51] <vagrantc> how did i get opped?
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[23:46] <OderU-97> hi
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[23:53] <rand22> Hi! I'm starting over with my Pi -- and raspbian. I found the build-xbmc-on-pi docs. *IS* there a raspbian-friendly buildfs toolchain for cross compiling available & recommended?
[23:53] <rand22> I want to do 3 things: (1) Install with a preinstalled image, (2) cross compile RPi arm kernels in a Debian x86 on my Desktop, and (3) cross compile XBMC for RPi/arm in that same VM, with (hopefully) a nice packaging script
[23:53] <rand22> I used to use raspbmc for it, but that project seems to be dead/dying on the devel maintenance end. SO hoping I can find what I need here!
[23:55] <sraue> why not try OpenELEC, then you have all 3: a crosscompiler which works, a build which works, and a (maintained) XBMC OS
[23:57] <rand22> sraue: Hi. I build my own XBMC, and intend to continue that. I also use/depend on some of the under-the-hood linux tools, and apps occassionally, in a full linux-distro like raspbian -- IIUC not necessarily available 2 me @ OpenELEC.

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