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[0:36] <SQRRL> sudo raspi-config -> 3
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[10:00] <ppq> shiftplusone, hi! some weeks ago you mentioned a tool to modify raspbian images, install packages inside etc. without having to flash it to a pi. what was that again, please? i think it was something more "specialized" than just qemu
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[10:02] <shiftplusone> ppq, there are all sorts of tools, but I find that they complicate things. I was most likely talking about a qemu-user chroot.
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[10:05] <Kymru> which usb wifi dongle does Raspbian have drivers built in for?
[10:05] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's reasonable to list them
[10:05] <zGrr> Huawei E3131
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[10:06] <shiftplusone> the one people most often have trouble with is the 8188eu (if I recall the chipset correctly)
[10:06] <shiftplusone> since that one requires manual fiddling with the driver
[10:08] <zGrr> I think, all of them do need some soft of fiddling with.
[10:09] <Kymru> ok, i bought 2 TP-LINK TL-WN725N V2 before xmas and had to install the drivers and they are 8188eu, i dont mind fiddling
[10:09] <Tachyon`> does not network manager just see dongles these days?
[10:09] <shiftplusone> not so much on the foundation's raspbian install. Aside from having a lot preinstalled, there's also wpa_gui and a preconfigures network interfaces file, which makes it pretty straight forward.
[10:09] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, not if the drivers are missing.
[10:10] <Tachyon`> ah, well, no, I suppose not, mine just pop up as 1-3 serial ports
[10:10] <zGrr> Network manager might not be enough. Some of them still need modesetting.
[10:10] <shiftplusone> but even if drivers are missing, they're usually an apt-get away (which may be tricky without a network connection)
[10:11] <Tachyon`> the toughbooks I acquired recently have built in GSM/Edge modems (IE: Pre 3G and a max of dialup speed)
[10:12] <Tachyon`> although lsusb says those are a USB device so perhaps they could be replaced with something less stone age
[10:12] <Tachyon`> I've not had the toughbooks apart, as the name suggests it's not so easy
[10:14] <Tachyon`> http://kupo.be/pics/transformer.jpg <- curious beasts, must be one of the first machines of that type
[10:15] <Kymru> ok well for the TP-LINK TL-WN725N V2 i just found an automatic download and install script based on kernal build
[10:19] <zGrr> I only couldn't get E3131 working with OpenELEC
[10:25] <shiftplusone> ppq, did you figure it out?
[10:26] <ppq> shiftplusone, sorry, forgot to respond. i'm going to use qemu, thanks :)
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[10:28] <shiftplusone> the advantage of chrooting is that the image remains un-booted, and it's a bit faster than qemu-system. So it's preferable if you're going to release an image publicly.
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[10:32] <ppq> shiftplusone, i don't mind booting it, it's just for 3 or 4 pis
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[10:33] <ppq> i just don't want to do the same work four times
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[10:33] <ppq> if i had them here, i would prepare one of them and clone the sd to the others
[10:35] <shiftplusone> ah, fair enough
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[10:36] <jammy_> hi
[10:37] <jammy_> i installed gstreamer on rasbian os
[10:37] <jammy_> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-dev
[10:37] <jammy_> and packages are install
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[10:38] <ppq> jammy_, do you want to compile gstreamer or why did you choose gstreamer0.10-dev
[10:39] <jammy_> i want to develop one app
[10:39] <jammy_> http://docs.gstreamer.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=327735
[10:39] <jammy_> i copy and past the code
[10:40] <jammy_> and compiled using this command
[10:40] <jammy_> gcc basic-tutorial-1.c -o basic-tutorial-1 `pkg-config --cflags --libs gstreamer-0.10`
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[10:44] <jammy_> but i didnt get any video on my board
[10:44] <jammy_> from that uri
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[10:45] <gnarface> jammy_: you didn't use libomxil did you?
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[10:46] <m_r_r> Hello
[10:46] <jammy_> i install only gstreamer package
[10:47] <gnarface> jammy_: you will also need libomxil. without it the pi is not fast enough to play video
[10:47] <m_r_r> I'm going to install Raspbian on a Raspberry Pi. Can I do that through SSH, or do I need a keyboard and a monitor ?
[10:47] <gnarface> m_r_r: this works with ssh https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[10:48] <m_r_r> gnarface: nice, it's just what i needed, thanks :-)
[10:49] <gnarface> np, but hifi is the one you should thank
[10:49] <gnarface> he did the work
[10:50] <jammy_> after install gstreamer i want to install that packages
[10:51] <jammy_> sudo apt-get install libomxil-bellagio-dev
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[10:52] <gnarface> jammy_: i think so but i am not sure. try this: apt-cache search ^libomxil
[10:53] <jammy_> because after compilation i didnt get any video on the board
[10:53] <gnarface> well, try a much smaller video
[10:53] <jammy_> from that uri
[10:54] <gnarface> jammy_: if you try a video that is a very small resolution like 160x120 it might work
[10:55] <gnarface> jammy_: it is common for video players on the pi that do not use libomxil to just show a black frame because they are too slow, but resolution matters
[10:55] <gnarface> jammy_: you did not get any errors, i assume?
[10:56] <jammy_> i didnt get any errors
[10:56] <jammy_> just i compied and complied
[10:56] <jammy_> http://docs.gstreamer.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=327735
[10:57] <jammy_> this example
[10:59] <gnarface> jammy_: yes, my diagnosis then is that you need to add libomxil support to your app
[10:59] <jammy_> k
[11:00] <jammy_> now i will installing that packages
[11:00] <gnarface> jammy_: that is a good place to start. you might also want to install libomxil-bellagio-doc
[11:01] <gnarface> jammy_: (it contains documentation)
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[11:13] <jammy_> hi
[11:13] <jammy_> installed libomxil packages
[11:13] <jammy_> after compilation i am getting this error
[11:14] <jammy_> gtk6: In function `_start': crtstuff.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start' /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6/../../../arm-linux-gnueabihf/crt1.o:(.text+0x0): first defined here gtk6: In function `_fini': crtstuff.c:(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini' /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6/../../../arm-linux-gnueabihf/crti.o:(.fini+0x0): first defined here gtk6:(.rodata+0x0): multiple definition of `_IO_stdin_used' /
[11:14] <gnarface> jammy_: the instructions are in this package: libomxil-bellagio-doc
[11:15] <gnarface> jammy_: you will certainly have to read them and alter your program accordingly
[11:15] <jammy_> k
[11:18] <jammy_> there is not doc int his loc:
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[11:28] <jammy_> hi
[11:28] <jammy_> there is no doc in this loc
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[11:29] <Edy81> hello
[11:30] <Edy81> i'm new to raspberry pi i'm waiting for the computer to come
[11:31] <Edy81> i was wondering is this bedian version like ubuntu easy to install or is like mandrake selecting packages ?
[11:31] <jammy_> just copy the debian image to sd card
[11:32] <Edy81> the sd has noobs in it is a full kit
[11:32] <Edy81> for now i can't do nothing but wait
[11:33] <Edy81> i want to make a computer that boots in to terminal and just with keyboard
[11:33] <Edy81> so no x11 that's why i ask
[11:34] <Edy81> i don't know if arch is hard but i like debian i used ubuntu, xubuntu and mint now on pc
[11:35] <jammy_> i used this command for compilation
[11:35] <jammy_> :gcc gtk6.c -o gtk6 `pkg-config --cflags --libs gstreamer-0.10`
[11:35] <jammy_> no error comes but no video is coming on the board
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[11:36] <jammy_> there is no file in this loc
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[11:38] <jammy_> hi
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[11:40] <jammy_> there is no files in this loc
[11:40] <Edy81> what is loc?
[11:41] <jammy_> i typed but it not displaying
[11:41] <Edy81> is an error message ?
[11:41] <jammy_> no
[11:42] <jammy_> error comes aftercompilation
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[11:42] <jammy_> but video is not displaying on the board
[11:42] <Edy81> i can't help sorry i know linux but not raspberry pi
[11:47] <Edy81> can you have multiple os , an os in each sd ?
[11:48] <jammy_> no
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[11:49] <Edy81> so just 1 sd with one os , and what if i want to use another os in same rspi ?
[11:50] <jammy_> u install noobs
[11:50] <jammy_> in one sd card
[11:50] <jammy_> and select what u want
[11:52] <Edy81> so them what is just one os per machine ?
[11:52] <Edy81> i miss the 3/5 disks
[11:53] <jammy_> which os u want to use
[11:53] <Edy81> not sure
[11:53] <Kymru> Edy81. another os in the same Pi. just buy some cheap 4Gb or 8Gb cards and install different images on them
[11:53] <jammy_> dont buy cheap
[11:53] <Edy81> linux, i want something that boots from terminal and not from x11
[11:54] <ppq> Edy81, you can have several operating systems on one sd-card or one os per sd-card and just switch cards
[11:54] <Kymru> raspbian doesnt boot to x11
[11:54] <Edy81> ok so as i said it can be done with one os per one SD ?
[11:54] <Edy81> cool
[11:54] <ppq> sure
[11:54] <Edy81> i try raspbian
[11:55] <Kymru> not sure about arch linux, does that boot to x11?
[11:55] <Edy81> oh baby i can't wait
[11:55] <ppq> not by default, Kymru
[11:55] <shiftplusone> you can install x11 though
[11:55] <Kymru> ok Edy81, another one for you
[11:56] <Edy81> i never use arch
[11:56] <Edy81> used
[11:56] <Edy81> i need something new that i don't have on this pc
[11:56] <Edy81> :D
[11:56] <Edy81> ok thanks
[11:56] <Kymru> raspbmc and openelec boot to x11 because they have xbmc gui
[11:56] <shiftplusone> they don't
[11:57] <Edy81> i used the xbmc on mac once
[11:57] <Kymru> i mean they dont boot to terminal
[11:57] <Edy81> nice but i have a ps3 so i don't see why i need another media center
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[11:57] <Edy81> and 2 external HD
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[11:58] <jammy__> can any one reply to me
[11:58] <Kymru> Edy81, you will get the Pi fever
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[11:58] <Edy81> i started with hot ideas lego case
[11:59] <Edy81> yesterday
[11:59] <Edy81> so i think i have raspberry pi fever
[11:59] <Kymru> i am currently waiting for parts to turn up so i can finish my Internet RadioPi
[12:00] <Edy81> you didn't miss much jammy__
[12:00] <Edy81> i wonder is there any point to have a emial server ?
[12:00] <Edy81> email
[12:01] <Kymru> not unless your scared what the NSA read
[12:01] <Edy81> i know i have 2 problems 1 router and 2 12 hours just of power if i do it in my room
[12:02] <Edy81> i was thinking of it as i had problems with msn or hotmail
[12:02] <ppq> then there is no point in setting up a mail server
[12:03] <Kymru> Edy81, get a google account and set it up to retrieve your emails from msn / hotmail
[12:03] <Edy81> i haven't seen anyone placing as an idea in raspberrypi ideas in a web
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[12:04] <Edy81> is fix the msn but it was point less the problem they give me this guy at ms
[12:04] <Edy81> guys
[12:05] <Kymru> right i got to go, back later sometime
[12:06] <Edy81> cya
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[12:51] <jammy_> hi
[12:51] <jammy_> what are the packages i want to install for gstreamer
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[13:07] <Edy81> usually it tells you the dependences
[13:07] <Edy81> aptget
[13:07] <Edy81> if your on debian
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[16:06] <jammy> how to install gstreamer on rasbian os
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[16:07] <ftzdomino> typically, something like sudo apt-cache search gstreamer
[16:07] <ftzdomino> that will give you the exact package name. then apt-get install gstreamer-whatever
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[16:22] <jammy> i installed sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-dev
[16:22] <jammy> next no need to install any packages or not
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[16:26] <ftzdomino> usually the -dev packages are for compiling other packages against
[16:26] <ftzdomino> so if that doesn't solve your issue, you may need something else
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[17:07] <jammy> check this link
[17:07] <jammy> http://docs.gstreamer.com/display/GstSDK/Installing+on+Linux
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[17:14] <ftzdomino> oh, if you want to develop with gstreamer, then yes, the -dev packages are needed
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[17:25] <Edy81> hello
[17:26] <Edy81> i have a raspberry at last :D
[17:26] <Edy81> problem 1 eyes hurt with hdmi on 24"screen
[17:27] <Edy81> how can i fix this ?
[17:27] <atouk> glasses?
[17:27] <Edy81> no
[17:28] <atouk> then glasses
[17:28] <Edy81> don't work on me
[17:29] <Edy81> i found that the computer had no manual just a paper
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[17:30] <Edy81> where i go now i do know about linux but i feel like this is a kick in the nuts
[17:31] <Edy81> how i know my current resolution ?
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[17:38] <ftzdomino> you used to be able to do ctrl-alt-+ to change resolutions in X11. no idea if that works on rpi
[17:38] <Odie_> I wonder if this is still the same issue as with computers
[17:38] <Odie_> screens by default dont show all pixels on hdmi
[17:39] <Odie_> to do that, you need to put the display's port to PC mode
[17:39] <ftzdomino> oh, you need a native resolution?
[17:39] <ftzdomino> plus you have to turn off overscan
[17:39] <Odie_> I never had to do that on pc's
[17:40] <Odie_> but my raspberry is connected to monitor, not to a tv
[17:40] <ftzdomino> monitors have it off by default usually. tvs have it on?
[17:40] <ftzdomino> http://elinux.org/RPi_raspi-config#overscan_-_Change_overscan
[17:40] <ftzdomino> but if your edges are lined up properly, that's not needed
[17:41] <Edy81> i have no idea wath res i have now
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[17:41] <ftzdomino> usually you can find it in your monitor menus
[17:42] <Edy81> i need to put my tv monitor to pc mode in hdmi you say?
[17:42] <Edy81> i used the same cable for ps3
[17:43] <ftzdomino> it's a tv? you probably want to set your raspberry pi to 1080p, 1080i, 780p, or similar
[17:45] <Edy81> can't do nothing no options
[17:45] <Edy81> is a tv
[17:45] <Edy81> also with vga
[17:45] <ftzdomino> are you in text mode?
[17:45] <Edy81> for mi pc
[17:46] <Edy81> no i wish , on next boot i will
[17:46] <Edy81> the problem is fonts in x11 and web browser
[17:47] <Edy81> i'm using irssi cli irc
[17:47] <Edy81> is not toching edges is like black around a bit
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[17:49] <ftzdomino> i can't say i've ever booted a raspberry pi to x11, but i'm assuming there are settings tools to change the resolution in a control panel
[17:50] <Jusii> X11 goes to same resolution pi booted in
[17:50] <Edy81> my one went to xmbc like mad and then i reboot and found i had 2 options both with x11
[17:50] <Jusii> Edy81: disable overscan
[17:50] <Edy81> i try
[17:51] <Edy81> i only have auto scart not sure why
[17:51] <Jusii> tvservice -s prints your current resolution
[17:52] <Edy81> not option
[17:52] <Edy81> ok i try in new tab
[17:53] <Edy81> state 0x120016 [DVI DMT (39) RGB full 16:9], 1360x768 @ 60Hz, progressive
[17:54] <Edy81> on ps3 minecraft demo and browser fonts look same as here
[17:54] <Jusii> tvservice -m DMT will tell you all resolutions supported
[17:55] <Edy81> 6 modes
[17:55] <Edy81> mode 4: 640x480 @ 60Hz 4:3, clock:25MHz progressive
[17:55] <Edy81> mode 9: 800x600 @ 60Hz 4:3, clock:40MHz progressive
[17:55] <Edy81> mode 16: 1024x768 @ 60Hz 4:3, clock:65MHz progressive
[17:55] <Edy81> mode 35: 1280x1024 @ 60Hz 5:4, clock:108MHz progressive
[17:55] <Edy81> (prefer) mode 39: 1360x768 @ 60Hz 16:9, clock:85MHz progressive
[17:56] <Edy81> and mode 85: 1280x720 @ 60Hz 16:9, clock:74MHz progressive
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[17:59] <ftzdomino> you might want to try out mode 85.
[18:00] <Edy81> oh are this imagens in SD like virtual linux so we need to expand them?
[18:01] <Edy81> what is mode 85?
[18:01] <ftzdomino> it looks like a standard 720p tv resolution
[18:02] <Edy81> and how i set it ?
[18:04] <Edy81> tvservice is not a linux coman but something in my tv?
[18:05] <Edy81> nevermind
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[18:16] <Edy81> sorry i lost tv view
[18:16] <Edy81> i had to reboot blindly with the terminal
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[18:45] <Edy81> well i hate to go back to my pc but i need something bye
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[19:15] <ThatZit> Any one knows who is up for the porting of the full broadcom driver for the Pi?
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[20:07] <Lynx0> Hi all! I have a problem: Somehow my USB disk has ¨lost¨ it´s UUID. It´s /dev/sdb1, but it´s not in /dev/disks/by-uuid anymore, and isn´t automounted (I have it in fastab with uuid).
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[20:11] <Lynx0> Hmm, apparently one can use the path to it via /dev/disk/by-id also in fstab, but it´s still weird.
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[20:14] <SURKITZ> I gotta say well done on the release! it seriously kicks a lot of the other distro arses, pidora is pipoop, and risc os is amazingly fast, but Raspian is just ACE! so well done thanks
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[23:18] <Kymru> are the drivers for rtl8188cus already in the Raspbian image?
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[23:23] <jacksinsomnia> yes, RTL8188CUS drivers are in raspbian
[23:24] <jacksinsomnia> as of noobs 1.3.4
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[23:24] <jacksinsomnia> err, i should say there are in 1.3.4, not sure when they were added
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