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[1:43] <gnarface> http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/04/07/2354258/openssl-bug-allows-attackers-to-read-memory-in-64k-chunks is the patch for this in rasbpian yet?
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[2:15] <gnarface> sorry, i got disconnected there, if anyone responded
[2:16] <gnarface> raspbian patch for the hearbleed openssl vuln?
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[3:13] <pkdrisr> hello, when can updated libssl and openssl packages be expected to mitigate this vulnerability http://heartbleed.com/
[3:14] <pkdrisr> btw debian has issued a fix in their security repo https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0160
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[6:43] <stanley> Hi, when will Raspbian have Heartbleed fixes out?
[6:44] <stanley> for openssl
[6:44] <stanley> http://heartbleed.com/ https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt
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[6:50] <mike_t> Start-Date: 2014-04-07 08:18:49
[6:50] <mike_t> Commandline: apt-get upgrade
[6:50] <mike_t> Upgrade: openssh-client:armhf (6.0p1-4, 6.0p1-4+deb7u1), ssh:armhf (6.0p1-4, 6.0p1-4+deb7u1), openssh-server:armhf (6.0p1-4, 6.0p1-4+deb7u1)
[6:50] <mike_t> End-Date: 2014-04-07 08:19:37
[6:51] <hifi> that's openssh
[6:51] <mike_t> ups
[6:51] <stanley> openss isn't affected
[6:51] <stanley> openssh isn't affected
[6:52] <mike_t> it fixed in 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4
[6:52] <stanley> It's 7u5 on Debian
[6:52] <mike_t> 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u4 on my rpi
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[6:53] <mike_t> ups again
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[6:56] <stanley> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0160
[6:56] <stanley> '1.0.1e-2+deb7u5' is fixed wheezy
[6:56] <stanley> this is a pretty urgent bug
[6:56] <stanley> outdated openssls can be exploited to give 64kb of memory
[6:57] <hifi> you'd need to bug plugwash to see if he can speed up the process of getting it rebuilt
[6:57] <hifi> but in all seriousness, who the hell runs anything with crypt on the pi?
[6:57] <stanley> tor relays
[6:57] <stanley> i see your point but it doesn't make it ok to leave it vulnerable
[6:58] <hifi> "ok to leave", it's been what, 12 hours since it was disclosed?
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[6:59] <stanley> 12 hours is a while considering everybody else's response
[6:59] <hifi> raspbian is very marginal distribution and maintained by one or two people
[6:59] <hifi> and for special purpose devices
[7:00] <hifi> so as far as I'd be concerned, the maintainers could be a) sleeping b) at work
[7:00] <stanley> that is reasonable
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[7:02] <hifi> you can also build the source package on the device if you're concerned
[7:02] <hifi> pull it from debian repositories
[7:02] <hifi> as upstream did push the fix already
[7:02] <stanley> okay
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[7:50] <zGrr> moin :)
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[8:00] <BManojlovic> zdravo :)
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[8:25] <Pheimors> hello
[8:25] <Pheimors> is there any way to upgrade openssl to avoid the HearBleed bug ?
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[8:33] <archangel-amael> Pheimors: Take a look at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0160
[8:33] <Pheimors> ok, thanks
[8:34] <archangel-amael> Also https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt
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[9:14] <form> hi. is a patched openssl available yet?
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[9:15] <kruemi> form there does not seem an updated package in raspbian right now. If you REALLY need it (have a raspi on an exposed system acting as ssl enabled server) than take a look at the debian repos
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[9:20] <gnarface> anyone else keep getting disconnected from freenode?
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[9:23] <Dagger> kruemi: server or client*
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[9:24] <kruemi> Dagger: as far as I can see, updates won't help you much if you're a client (but I could be wrong here)
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[9:24] <kruemi> Dagger: Bit I think the server can't spy on you while you're connected by ssl.
[9:24] <kruemi> But
[9:24] <gcSpitfire> hi there
[9:25] <Dagger> the server or an MITM can read the client process's memory
[9:26] <gcSpitfire> sorry if i am probably the 1000th who asked but is version 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u4 affected by the openssl-bug?
[9:26] <gcSpitfire> my guess would be no
[9:26] <Dagger> gcSpitfire: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0160 says yes
[9:26] <gcSpitfire> ah bollocks
[9:26] <gnarface> Dagger, gcSpitfire but its changelog says no
[9:27] <kruemi> Dagger: you're right. Sorry for the wron information. Client AND Server memory is exposed.
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[9:28] <gcSpitfire> gnarface: this is exactly why i am asking here :)
[9:28] <Dagger> oh, there's a +rvt+ there. that Debian page *suggests* yes, then
[9:28] <gcSpitfire> so is there any update to be expected soon?
[9:30] <kruemi> gcSpitfire: I'm sure, the maintainers will address this issue with priority. But there is not ETA known until now. If you're in a hurry I'd suggest to build the package from source
[9:32] <gcSpitfire> kruemi: thanks. i'll consider that :)
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[9:36] -kloeri_- [Global Notice] Hi all. In the next few minutes we're going to restart a bunch of servers due to an openssl security vulnerability (CVE-2014-0160). This is unfortunately going to be very noisy but should be over with relatively quickly. Thanks for using freenode and have a good day.
[9:38] <gcSpitfire> mind if i'll stick around here to see when it happens? :)
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[9:47] <Dagger> gnarface: the changelogs in http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1e-2%2brvt%2bdeb7u4_armhf.deb don't mention this vulnerability (and in any case that package was from two weeks ago)
[9:47] <gnarface> i dunno how much of what i said got cut off when i got disconnected
[9:48] <gnarface> Dagger: no look at this file: zless /usr/share/doc/libssl1.0.0/changelog.Debian.gz
[9:48] <gnarface> Dagger: or this one: zless /usr/share/doc/openssl/changelog.Debian.gz
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[9:48] <gnarface> (assuming you installed it)
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[9:49] <Dagger> https://p.6core.net/p/1LFJv6kTNTLLdcMvCC74AAGZ is what I see
[9:49] <Dagger> (I downloaded and extracted the .deb)
[9:49] <kruemi> uh, ooh... we're running libssl 1.0.0? if this is true, we're out of trouble for this bug
[9:49] <gnarface> Dagger: sorry, but i meant in the debian repos... i actually came in here earlier to find out if that patch was being put into raspbian any time soon but keep getting disconnected before someone replies...
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[9:50] <kruemi> tedaldi@Laserschrank ~ $ openssl version
[9:50] <kruemi> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
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[9:50] <kruemi> ok, we're screwed :)
[9:50] <Dagger> for Debian you need +deb7u5
[9:50] <gcSpitfire> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[9:51] <gcSpitfire> yep, we are, kruemi :)
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[9:51] <gnarface> gcSpitfire: no, 1.0.1e-2+deb7u5
[9:51] <gnarface> gcSpitfire: note the part after the "-" is significant
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[9:52] <gnarface> http://paste.debian.net/92386/
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[9:52] <ShorTie> interesting, failed to open directory /etc/kernel/postinst.d: No such file or directory
[9:52] <ShorTie> never seen that 1 before
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[10:05] <Roxxor> Hello. About the Openssl bug. I can't find any updates. Somebody knows when it is going to be available? :/
[10:06] <kruemi> Roxxor: I'm sure, the maintainers will address this issue with priority. But there is not ETA known until now. If you're in a hurry I'd suggest to build the package from source
[10:06] <gnarface> Roxxor: you can just disable heartbeats, its pretty easy
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[10:07] <Roxxor> Hm. Ok. Thank you. Just wanted to know if its maybe also my mistake and the packages are already available. But ok. I just personally use the server. I can wait. Thank you :)
[10:08] <gnarface> Roxxor: no, they're in debian already but there is typically half a day to 2 days delay for propogation into raspbian
[10:09] <Roxxor> A maybe this question: Out of curiosity I enables the debian security repo. Also with it enabled I cant find updates. Does it actually provide armhf packages? Could I run into compatibility issues?
[10:09] <gnarface> you will run into compatibility issues
[10:10] <gnarface> not sure why no packages show up for you but i'm assuming its because its smart enough to know that
[10:10] <gnarface> i thought i'd heard it wasn't but... meh
[10:10] <Roxxor> Ok. Thank you. Going to disable it and drink some tea ;D
[10:10] <Roxxor> Well actually I dont know if its showing packages. Only no updates.
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[10:14] <Roxxor> After the software update I should get a new key from startssl.com for my webserver, right? Do I have to revoke the old key? As it costs 24 bucks Im not really up for it :/
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[10:14] <gcSpitfire> i'd generate new keys
[10:15] <gcSpitfire> makes me sleep better
[10:15] <gnarface> Roxxor: unfortunately they *did* recommend revoking all your keys, yes
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[10:15] <kruemi> Roxxor: it depends. How much would it cost, if someone did pose as you and fish for the data of the users?
[10:15] <gnarface> Roxxor: even ones not necessarily generated with that version
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[10:16] <gnarface> Roxxor: see, at issue is it seemed pretty easy to steal the private key used by anyone connecting with a vulnerable version
[10:16] <gnarface> which is a bummer.... really
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[10:17] <Roxxor> Im the only user, so no real damage. Just privacy. Is there maybe a possibility to block the specific key on my devices? (linux and android)
[10:17] <Sk1d> Hey is there already a fix for the openssl for raspbian?
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[10:17] <kruemi> Any information that could have been in memory while the vulnerable ssl versionw as in use could have been leaked... this includes usernames, passwords, code, user-data...
[10:18] <kruemi> Sk1d: nope
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[10:19] <kruemi> Roxxor: let me phrase it like this: For an attacker with some resources (like a 3 letter organisation) it would be easy to get a valid certificate anyway...
[10:19] <Sk1d> does the debian fix needs to get adjusted?
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[10:20] <gnarface> Sk1d: i don't think so, i think its just a lack of manpower and compiling resources. i'm sure the fix will be applied soon.
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[10:36] <Halberd1> Hello. I'm having troubles instaling the latest dosfstools (3.0.26). I have downloaded a source from Git, but compiling it throws an error "stdio.h": No such file or directory found.
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[10:38] <kruemi> Halberd1: you might have to install the package clang
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[10:40] <Halberd1> ok, I will try your suggestion later, now I'm on another PC.
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[10:46] <gnarface> sigh
[10:46] <gnarface> these disconnections are starting to get really annoying
[10:47] <kruemi> gnarface: maybe they are installing the SSL patches on the servers?
[10:47] <archangel-amael> Imagine having to update all the servers due to this heartbleed problem.
[10:48] <kruemi> archangel-amael: not a real problem with pssh or something like that :)
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[11:03] <gordonDrogon> ssh isn't affected by this anyway.
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[11:10] <Maxa> good to know
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[11:43] <RobCWDudley> hi all. Does raspian have an OpenSSL update to fix Heartbleed yet?
[11:47] <RobCWDudley> ah, just read back through the logs. Can update from source. Apologies for asking the same question as about a million other people!
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[12:58] <johnnyft> anyone know when raspbian will have the openssl fix in the wheezy repo?
[12:59] <shiftplusone> are you sure the fix isn't in openssh?
[12:59] <shiftplusone> unless we're talking about different things
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[13:00] <johnnyft> this one https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0160
[13:01] <johnnyft> 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4 is the latest version on mirrors and is vulnerable
[13:02] <shiftplusone> ah
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[13:03] <shiftplusone> plugwash should update it within a few days, I suppose.
[13:03] <johnnyft> sigh
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> openssl isn't vulnerable to this - only things that use openssl - e.g. https type transactions (AFAIK)
[13:09] <johnnyft> i run a https & mail server on a rpi
[13:09] <johnnyft> so its vulnerable
[13:09] <gcSpitfire> same here
[13:09] <gcSpitfire> also TOR
[13:13] <johnnyft> can someone prod the repo maintainer?
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[13:15] <BManojlovic> shiftplusone: real support for debian pushed to repo :)
[13:15] <BManojlovic> tested with wheezy and it works correctly
[13:16] <shiftplusone> Ah, I'll give it a spin
[13:17] <johnnyft> url?
[13:18] <shiftplusone> johnnyft, this is about something else.
[13:18] <johnnyft> ah ok
[13:22] <BManojlovic> sorry for confusion
[13:23] <shiftplusone> I'll have to test later. My internet is at a crawl
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[13:36] <Roxxor> Hey, is there a possibility to check which installed packages depend on openssl? Just that I dont forget to change the keys somewehere after the update ;)
[13:37] <shiftplusone> BManojlovic, feature request: ability to specify the mirror. (My ISP has a Raspbian mirror that's not affected by the download limit cap).
[13:37] <gcSpitfire> does "apt-cache rdepends" help there?
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[13:39] <gnarface> things i hate about att: 1) no notification when there is a known outage 2) hours of wait time on hold only to find out there's also no estimated time till its fixed
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[13:39] <shiftplusone> gnarface, no option to make them call you back instead of waiting on hold?
[13:39] <gnarface> heh, nope
[13:40] <shiftplusone> and no page showing known problems either? =S
[13:40] <Roxxor> gcSpitfire: yeah works. but now I see that it is not complete as openssl is likely no dependency of nginx, but optional. well ok then lets hope that I will remember everything :D thank you :)
[13:40] <gnarface> shiftplusone: oh they got one of those, but the page says there's no problems
[13:40] <shiftplusone> ah
[13:40] <gnarface> i miss speakeasy. they'd send emails
[13:41] <gcSpitfire> Roxxor: maybe you should try and see what depends on "libssl1.0.0" instead
[13:41] <shiftplusone> my local exchange decided to connect me to another port, which failed horribly and I was left without the internet for 4 days. Although my ISP was terrible about communicating the issue, they gave me the next month for free, so I can't complain.
[13:43] <Roxxor> gcSpitfire: ui. long list. Thank you :) that should be complete
[13:43] <gcSpitfire> Roxxor: grep's your friend :)
[13:44] <Roxxor> gcSpitfire: I know, but its just to scroll over if I maybe forgot a server :D if I know what to grep then I also know that I ahve to change the keys :D
[13:44] <gcSpitfire> anyway folks. you don't need to set up an entire new CA after that, do you?
[13:45] <BManojlovic> shiftplusone: it is inside of script which mirror it uses :)
[13:45] <gcSpitfire> i tend to do it anyway though because i am paranoid
[13:46] <Roxxor> Im also paranoid, and from a technical point you should do a new one. I also do it :D
[13:46] <shiftplusone> BManojlovic, heh
[13:46] * ioudas wonders why his pi wont apt update
[13:46] <gnarface> gcSpitfire: i'm not sure, but i think the damage would in theory be limited to private keys that were in memory at the time of any snooping happening, that might be naive though...
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[13:46] <gcSpitfire> gnarface: that's my guess aswell
[13:46] <shiftplusone> ioudas, didn't you ask and run that yesterday in #raspberrypi? Can you ping the server and can you browse the repo in your browsser?
[13:47] <shiftplusone> *browser
[13:47] <ioudas> I did
[13:47] <gnarface> Roxxor: i *think* you can also just say "aptitude why libssl1.0.0"
[13:47] <ioudas> sorry didnt see your response.....
[13:48] <gnarface> Roxxor: aptitude is seriously slow though
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[13:48] <shiftplusone> ioudas, pastebin the whole output when you run the update.
[13:48] <ioudas> can browse the repo, not locally on the pi.... as it doesnt have any browsers un able to ping
[13:49] <ioudas> rgr
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[13:49] <ioudas> shiftplusone, do you have any wifi experience with deauth packets btw?
[13:49] <shiftplusone> none
[13:49] <Roxxor> I dont have aptitude at all O.o (actually using xbian which is based on raspbian) But the apt-cache works good :)
[13:49] <ioudas> http://pastebin.com/eNMKB2P4
[13:50] <shiftplusone> thanks
[13:50] <shiftplusone> can you ping google?
[13:51] <ioudas> i cannot, but i can reach ntp remotely
[13:51] <shiftplusone> what about the router, can you ping that or the other computers on your network?
[13:51] <kruemi> shiftplusone: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
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[13:52] <ioudas> yes
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[13:52] <gnarface> Roxxor: aptitude only seems to list one entry anyway. i must be wrong about what that's for.
[13:53] <shiftplusone> strange
[13:53] <shiftplusone> kruemi, I am not the one having issues, heh
[13:53] <kruemi> ioudas: so you can reach the router and stuff? what dies route -n look like?
[13:53] <kruemi> shiftplusone: i've just realized. Sorry!
[13:53] <ioudas> route -n looks like the 4 other pi's that work
[13:53] <ioudas> next to this pi
[13:53] <ioudas> route to its own network
[13:53] <kruemi> ioudas: no 0.0.0.0 ?
[13:53] <ioudas> i can reach internal networks and router
[13:53] <ioudas> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# route -n
[13:53] <ioudas> Kernel IP routing table
[13:53] <ioudas> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
[13:53] <ioudas> 0.0.0.0 192.168.7.6 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0
[13:53] <ioudas> 192.168.7.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
[13:54] <kruemi> ok... 192.168.7.6 is your router?
[13:54] <kruemi> ioudas: and ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[13:54] <gnarface> clever not putting it at the end of the range...
[13:54] <ioudas> nothing no icmp.
[13:55] <gnarface> ioudas: what about traceroute -T?
[13:56] <ioudas> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# traceroute -T 8.8.8.8
[13:56] <ioudas> traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[13:56] <ioudas> 1 wlan-controller.nrfdist.local (192.168.7.10) 10.796 ms 10.499 ms 10.343 ms
[13:56] <ioudas> 2 192.168.7.6 (192.168.7.6) 7.395 ms 7.170 ms 15.794 ms
[13:56] <ioudas> 3 google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8) 19.808 ms 19.557 ms 19.243 ms
[13:56] <gnarface> that's fine... weird
[13:56] <gnarface> almost suspiciously so
[13:56] <kruemi> ioudas: ok. DNS works, UDP as well..
[13:57] <gnarface> wait, so what *doesn't* work?
[13:57] <gnarface> just updates?
[13:57] <gnarface> maybe you got a bad mirror ?
[13:58] <shiftplusone> can you wget stuff?
[13:58] <gnarface> it could be hosted on att...
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[13:58] <ioudas> i cannot
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[13:58] <ioudas> apt-get update and install doesnt work
[13:59] <shiftplusone> did you add any fancy iptables rules or does your router have an aggressive firewall of some kind?
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[14:00] <ioudas> it shouldn't 4 other pi's work fine next to this on same network.. no iptables process running
[14:00] <shiftplusone> =/
[14:00] <shiftplusone> well, I give up.
[14:00] <ioudas> yeah
[14:00] <ioudas> its weird
[14:01] <ioudas> im giving up on these pi's anyway ;-) frigging repeating keys, wifi issues. you name it.
[14:01] <shiftplusone> sure your supply isn't terrible?
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[14:02] <ioudas> yeah, weve tried multiple power supplies
[14:02] <ioudas> right now these 5 pi's will also just drop, send a deauth packet
[14:02] <ioudas> and reconnect
[14:03] <ioudas> got a lot of other issues.
[14:03] <gnarface> eh, i suspect that many wifi cards need more power than the usb ports on the pi can provide in order to go into high power mode
[14:03] <ioudas> thats the problem with pi's
[14:03] <ioudas> usb
[14:03] <gnarface> mine won't stay connected to the wifi reliably unless its within about 3 feet of the wifi router
[14:03] <ioudas> yeah
[14:03] <ioudas> exactly
[14:04] <shiftplusone> are you guys using the little 'nano' wifi adapters?
[14:04] <ioudas> i need to find another embedded pc
[14:04] <gnarface> a powered hub for ... each of them... would solve the issue :(
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[14:04] <gnarface> shiftplusone: yea mine cost 9$
[14:04] <ioudas> i have the wifi issues with a powered hub
[14:04] <gnarface> ioudas: really? damn.
[14:04] <ioudas> i actually have an antenna based one rtl8192cu
[14:04] * gnarface was hoping to try the usb hub solution
[14:04] <ioudas> lb link directly from adafruit
[14:04] <shiftplusone> I found those adapters to be terrible all around. Even on the PC.
[14:05] <gnarface> i'm just using that cheap d-link one.
[14:05] <gnarface> can't complain for what i paid
[14:05] <ioudas> im going to deploy two laptops with the lblink
[14:05] <gnarface> mostly i use the ethernet anyway
[14:05] <ioudas> we will see if they drop
[14:05] <ioudas> send deauths
[14:06] <DarylXian> ioudas: re "find another embedded pc", do you have a price point? similar to RPi? or 'just works' ?
[14:06] <ioudas> price point doesnt matter much when it doesnt work.
[14:06] <gnarface> beagleboard black seems to be popular... only 10$ more i think but the video card is limited to 8MB
[14:06] <ioudas> working on that actually today
[14:07] <DarylXian> I switched to these, http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models . a little pricey, but solid as a rock.
[14:07] <ioudas> hmm
[14:07] <ioudas> i dont like that
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[14:49] <komodo> hello
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[14:50] <komodo> great to see so many people in here!
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[14:51] <komodo> is this a good channel to get help with the raspberry pi hardware itself?
[14:52] <shiftplusone> sure
[14:52] <shiftplusone> but there's #raspberrypi too
[14:52] <shiftplusone> (you need to be identified with freenode to join it)
[14:54] <komodo> ok... i don't think i can go in there right now, so I'll ask in here
[14:54] <gregc2> bah i cant set monitor mode with these gdamn wireless cards
[14:55] <komodo> i bought 2 raspberry PIs and I am having the same issue with both. hope you all can help. So, I'm not sure if this is a power issue, but I am always having issues getting usb devices to work on the PIs
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[14:57] <komodo> i get messages during startup that say the 2nd usb cannot be initiated and the message says "maybe the cable is bad?". I've tried abotu 8 different keyboards and mice, 2 different keyboard/mice combo units, and a wifi dongle. always usb issues
[14:58] <shiftplusone> got a multimeter?
[14:58] <komodo> not here. i have one at home
[14:59] <komodo> thing is, I thought there was soemthing wrong with the PI so I bought another one, but the same thing happens with that one too
[14:59] <shiftplusone> to help rule out power supply as the issue, measure the voltage between tp1 and tp2 with some usb devices plugged in.
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[14:59] <komodo> ok shiftplusone. I'll try that when I get home. will be a good reason to break out my multimeter
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[15:09] <M3mphiZ> Hey guys, is the hard/soft-float bug fixed in the latest version of raspbian (debian)? I need it to work with mono and C#.
[15:09] <shiftplusone> not sure which but you're talking about, but to the best of my knowledge, there are still winforms issues.
[15:11] <M3mphiZ> well i need it to use soft-float
[15:12] <komodo> hmmm... im using a case that has a fan. I just opened up my case, disconnected the fan, fired up kali linux and didn't have any problems
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[15:14] <sfasdf> need some help with openvpn client on raspberry pi please.
[15:14] <komodo> so i'm wondering. do you guys know what pins I should be plugging an external fan to. maybe i had it plugged into the wrong pins and was drawing too much power
[15:14] <shiftplusone> you should'nt be plugging in a fan at all.
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[15:14] <sfasdf> I'm running an openvpn client on the raspberry pi but it is only using ~50% cpu usage. is there any way to increase this/find out why its not using full cpu available
[15:15] <komodo> um. okay. but my case came built with a fan.
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[15:15] <komodo> and there are pins on the raspberry pi for it
[15:15] <sfasdf> there sould be at least an extra 30% cpu avauilable to use
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> komodo, gimmick (imho)
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[15:20] <sfasdf> hello?
[15:21] <shiftplusone> hi
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[15:22] <sfasdf> can you help with openvpn client cpu usage problem?
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[15:23] <shiftplusone> nope, but my initial thought was "why do you expect it to use more than 30%, what are you doing?"
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[15:24] <sfasdf> I expect it to use more because it is not using up my full internet bandwidth. only about a quarter.
[15:24] <sfasdf> when I have openvpn running on an ubuntu box connected to the same server I get almost full download speeds
[15:25] <shiftplusone> what's the connection and what are you doing? ethernet to usb hdd transfer or what?
[15:25] <sfasdf> I don't expect to get full download speeds from the raspberry pi but it should be faster than I'm getting since it is not using the full cpu
[15:26] <sfasdf> ethernet connection to the pi and then a HDD connected to the pi
[15:26] <sfasdf> only getting ~8mbps download speed
[15:27] <shiftplusone> keep in mind that the HDD and ethernet are both connected to the same USB bus.
[15:27] <shiftplusone> so that might be the bottleneck.
[15:28] <Darky> wouldn't be so low though
[15:29] <sfasdf> when i transfer from the pi to my desktop over ethernet connected to the router on both. I get ~50mbps transfer speed.
[15:30] <shiftplusone> hm
[15:30] <sfasdf> and when I download without the vpn I get about 20mbps (half internet bandwidth)
[15:31] <sfasdf> so it the vpn the is bottlenecking the connection but it is only using 50% cpu when there is 70-80% availiable to it
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[15:36] <sfasdf> sorry connection died
[15:36] <shiftplusone> you didn't miss anything
[15:36] <sfasdf> ha ok
[15:37] <sfasdf> so no idea why openvpn is only using 50% cpu?
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[15:42] <Darky> nope, maybe you should ask the openvpn guys ( #openvpn on freenode)
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[15:48] <sfasdf> ok ill try my luck there thanks.
[15:52] <sfasdf> it says I'm banned. WTF??
[15:52] <sfasdf> #openvpn Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[15:52] <sfasdf> do i need to be a registered user to login to #openvpn?
[15:53] <shiftplusone> they blocked the webchat thing you're using
[15:54] <sfasdf> freenode? so i need a client? is there any other webchat they allow?
[15:54] <shiftplusone> just save yourself the trouble and use a client.
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[16:40] <Death_> Likely user 9000 to ask, but when will the patched openssl 1.0.1 get on the main repo?
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[16:43] <Death_> (relates to the #heartbleed heartbeet issue in 1.0.1e)
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[16:50] <Darky> who knows...
[16:50] <Darky> while waiting you should kill all processes that rely on openssl
[16:51] <komodo> hey ya'll: does anyone know of a good, cheap keyboard/mouse combo that is 100% compatible with raspberry pi? I have revision b with 512mb ram.
[16:52] <Darky> komodo: I haven't seen a non-compatible keyboard yet... the cheapest you can find will probably work fine
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[16:52] <komodo> Darky: i have two with me now and both are not working properly
[16:53] <Darky> well that's weird
[16:53] <komodo> for example, the one i am using right now only works if nothing is plugged into the 2nd usb slot
[16:56] <Death_> Is your power supply strong enough komodo?
[16:56] <komodo> i'm connected to usb port on my computer
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[16:56] <Death_> It sounds like it can't get enough power out of your pie, which could be the case if your adapter doesn't give the right amount.
[16:56] <komodo> maybe i should connect to wall?
[16:57] <Darky> yes you should
[16:57] <komodo> k... lemme try
[16:57] <Death_> I'm not 100% sure on the exact numbers, but as far as I remember USB for data will not provide the amount of current the Pie needs to operate well with periphirals and all connected.
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[16:59] <Darky> a usb connector should give 0.5 - 0.9 A of power, the pi needs 0.7 A to function, more if you use a keyboard, mouse, etc
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[17:00] <shiftplusone> more importantly, it needs to give 5v at the pi's input over the whole range.
[17:00] <komodo> darky: thank you for that info!!!!
[17:01] <shiftplusone> though 0.7A to function + more for usb comment is nonsense. 0.7A is already taking low power USB devices into account.
[17:01] <komodo> Darky: works perfectly now! Thank you so much
[17:01] <Death_> Isn't USB only 100mA by default Darky?
[17:02] <komodo> wow... seems like a lot of people are upset by what you said Darky :(
[17:02] <shiftplusone> By the specs, a USB port needs to provide 100mA normally, and a minimum of 500mA in high power mode.
[17:02] <Death_> Usb 2.0 is 500mA though. But 1.0 isn't.
[17:02] <Darky> no one uses 1.0 these days
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[17:03] <komodo> well plugging into wall rather than into my usb port on my pc did the trick. stable power now
[17:03] <Death_> You can't assume that when it comes to somebody messing around with a Pi =) Their testing environment/setup could be outdated.
[17:03] <shiftplusone> komodo, 'upset' is a bit strong, heh.
[17:03] <komodo> :)
[17:04] <shiftplusone> lol, you were powering from the PC's USB port AND you had a fan going earlier? D=
[17:04] <komodo> ok... now i am down to my last question for you fine ladies adn gents
[17:04] <komodo> yeah :)
[17:04] <Darky> komodo: correcting or disagreeing with someone isn't a problem
[17:04] <shiftplusone> ouch
[17:04] <Darky> wouldn't say anyone here is upset really
[17:05] <Death_> I'm upset, but that is because I had to deal with the OpenSSL issue all day at work, and now at home for my private servers and labo. :(
[17:05] * shiftplusone hides the pitchfork >.>
[17:05] <komodo> so, i got the Kali linux release for raspberry pi and imaged it to my sd card. it loads up fine, but i notice it doesn't have any of the Kali linux tools installed - lol. Does anyone have any experience with Kali linux or the Kali release for raspberry?
[17:06] <shiftplusone> don't they have a channel?
[17:06] <Death_> I'm a Raspbian guy, sorry.
[17:06] <komodo> hmm.. didn't know they had a channel
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[17:09] <Darky> after a bit of searching, it looks like the 0.1 A limit applies to the Pi itself, as in you shouldn't draw more than 100 mA from the Pi's usb ports
[17:10] <shiftplusone> without asking
[17:12] <Darky> was referring to <Deat__> Isn't USB only 100mA by default Darky?
[17:14] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I was just adding that a device that draws more should identify itself as such and the host can reject it.
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[17:16] <komodo> so sad.. the kali linux irc channel is dead
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[17:17] <Death_> Exactly, as the Pi tries to use the USB port for power, I'm unsure if it negotiates getting 500mA even. Which is still short of the 700mA recommended when using USB peripherals on the Pi USB port.
[17:17] <shiftplusone> the pi certainly does not
[17:17] <shiftplusone> it's just power lines, no d+/d-
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[17:18] <shiftplusone> or enumeration of any kind
[17:18] <Death_> So have you guys updated your openssl packages manually?
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[17:24] <rofl> hey
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[17:25] <rofl> where can i find news about raspbian like new releases, features, what's planned, etc. ?
[17:25] <Darky> Death_: I've blocked internet access on my pi's until the package gets resolved (not everyone can do that ofc)
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[17:26] <pr3d> hi, i have a question about updating openssl
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[17:26] <pr3d> i dont get the lastest fixed version
[17:27] <pr3d> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[17:27] <pr3d> is a security path missing
[17:27] <shiftplusone> it hasn't been updated yet or it hasn't propogated to all the mirrors yet
[17:27] <shiftplusone> I think it's the first one
[17:29] <pr3d> https://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/openssl is says 1.0.1e-2+deb7u6) [security]
[17:29] <pr3d> i have: ii openssl 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u4 armhf
[17:29] <Darky> pr3d: raspbian isn't exactly debian
[17:29] <pr3d> becasue its arm?
[17:29] <paultag> no
[17:29] <shiftplusone> because it's not debian
[17:30] <Darky> if you want to fix it, wait for it to get updated on the repo, or recompile it yourself
[17:30] <paultag> Debian has armel and armhf, but neither are raspbian
[17:30] <pr3d> ah, ok
[17:30] <paultag> pis are slightly better than is assumed with armel, but aren't as new as armhf
[17:30] <paultag> so armel will run on a pi
[17:30] <pr3d> i leave my services offline then
[17:30] <paultag> but you won't get hardfloat
[17:32] <Roxxor> I read on the forum that somebody saw it on the main raspbian repo, and that it maybe didnt propagate through the mirrors till now. Somebody maybe can check? Can I manually just add the main repo?
[17:32] <shiftplusone> Roxxor, was it Douglas Lawson?
[17:33] <Roxxor> No, here rpdom: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=74153&p=532186
[17:33] <Death_> I can't really disconnect my rasp pi, I use it 8 hours per day as my SSH tunnel.
[17:33] <Roxxor> I dont know if its true, but would be nice if it is :D
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[17:35] <shiftplusone> hm
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[17:37] <Death_> Did anyone hear yet from a company that's going to make multi-slot IO boards for the new CM pi's?
[17:40] <Roxxor> Hm.. I guess it is a myth :D Not here till now :/ http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/o/openssl/
[17:40] <Darky> there's a newer version on jessie, but it's also vulnerable (1.0.1f)
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[18:43] <gotmoreshell> Good evening
[18:44] <gotmoreshell> Anyone know when the fix for CVE-2014-0160 will be released for raspbian.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> plugwash hasn't been on or commented about it elsewhere yet
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[18:46] <Death_> Plugwash has been eliminated by the NSA, their taget has been the Rasp Pi boards all this time.
[18:46] <Death_> Low-power botnet, have to think ecologically.
[18:47] <shiftplusone> heh
[18:48] <gotmoreshell> So might take a while?
[18:48] <shiftplusone> uknown
[18:48] <shiftplusone> *un
[18:48] <gotmoreshell> :(
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[18:49] <stanley> I've memo'd him
[18:49] <Death_> Would adding the debian repo for a moment to update the package work, or do they not host the required ARM version for the Pi?
[18:49] <shiftplusone> don't do that
[18:50] <stanley> I think we have to just build it ourselves.
[18:50] <shiftplusone> if you mix debian and raspbian repos, you're going to have a bad time.
[18:50] <paultag> indeed, esp with a lib
[18:50] <shiftplusone> armel is a different abi and armhf is a different arch.
[18:51] <paultag> since armel would work here, but nothing will match it's abi
[18:51] <paultag> right, there
[18:51] <paultag> shiftplusone: except not quite
[18:51] <paultag> shiftplusone: since raspbian identifies as armhf
[18:51] <paultag> but the binaries from Debian armhf won't run right
[18:51] <paultag> so you can multiarch enable armel
[18:51] * pda came to ask the same questions - thanks for the info.
[18:51] <paultag> but then it won't be around for armhf stuff
[18:51] <shiftplusone> paultag, yeah, I meant the debian armhf
[18:51] <DarylXian> What are correct CFLAGS opts for "-mtune", "-march" & "-mcpu" for raspbian's gcc? I'm in a chroot, and adding any/all as 'native', 'armv6l' causes a "cc1: error: unrecognized argument in option '-mcpu=native'" error.
[18:52] <DarylXian> this is for RPi.
[18:52] <shiftplusone> haven't tried multiarch though
[18:52] <paultag> It won't fix this issue
[18:53] <shiftplusone> that just works on arm like it does with x86 and amd64?
[18:53] <paultag> since multiarch enabled packages would put into a special lib
[18:53] <paultag> but basically yes
[18:53] <paultag> lib directory*
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[18:53] <shiftplusone> hm, thanks
[18:53] <stanley> What deb-src line do I need to add in order to get the OpenSSL source?
[18:53] <paultag> so you could install libfoo5:armel and libfoo5:armhf
[18:53] <paultag> stanley: apt-get install devscripts
[18:53] <paultag> dget from Debian
[18:53] <paultag> rebuild
[18:53] <paultag> smile smugly
[18:53] <stanley> paultag: What deb-src line do I need to add?
[18:54] <paultag> you don't if you use dget
[18:54] <stanley> Awesome.
[18:54] <stanley> cheers paultag
[18:54] <Death_> Don't forget the smug smile or it won't work.
[18:54] <paultag> ++
[18:54] <paultag> stanley: dget -x http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc
[18:54] <paultag> stanley: cd into there and you can do your 'thang
[18:55] * stanley is always impressed by the debian array of tools and scripts
[18:55] <stanley> dscverify: can't find any system keyrings
[18:55] <paultag> We've been doing it a while :)
[18:55] <paultag> stanley: might need a -u since it's raspbian
[18:55] <paultag> (don't check)
[18:55] <paultag> Hurm, also that's out of date
[18:55] <paultag> hold on stanley
[18:55] <paultag> you need -2
[18:56] <paultag> stanley: http://incoming.debian.org/openssl_1.0.1g-2.dsc
[18:56] <paultag> That's not even in Debian yet, but that contains emergency fixes that -1 didn't have
[18:56] <stanley> Which one?
[18:56] <paultag> Checking for services to restart and updating that list
[18:57] <paultag> not code-based
[18:57] <paultag> the code fix is sound
[18:57] <Death_> lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL
[18:57] <paultag> :)
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[18:58] <stanley> I'd like it to verify
[18:58] <Death_> I'm going to create a mock-up image of an IO board I'd love to put next to my Rasp Pi B.
[18:58] <stanley> maybe I need to find the debian keyring package
[18:58] <paultag> stanley: Yeah, apt-get install debian-keyring
[18:58] <paultag> or get Kurt's key by hand
[19:00] <fknecht> Is anyone working on getting this openssl fix out?
[19:00] <stanley> the guy who can do that here isn't around
[19:00] <paultag> Unknown. That's a plugwash question, I don't have any Raspbian rights, just Debian rights
[19:00] <stanley> so instead you should build your own like I am!
[19:02] <stanley> paultag: debuild -rfakeroot -uc -us <-- this fine?
[19:02] <paultag> yeah, that looks great; I use dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc, but that's identical to that, but dpkg-buildpackage does less
[19:02] <paultag> so, go for it! Nice!
[19:03] <paultag> (I'm outdated cruft)
[19:03] <Death_> http://i.imgur.com/vB25SsJ.png
[19:03] <pda> will it be necessary to (re)build libssl also? or just the openssl package?
[19:03] <Death_> mybodyisready.webm
[19:04] <paultag> pda: the openssl package is the source package name, the source package can build many binary packages
[19:04] <stanley> So we don't need libssl recompiled?..
[19:04] <paultag> pda: in particular, openssl builds libssl-{dev,doc}, libssl1.0.0{,-dbg}
[19:04] <stanley> They seem to be separate packages
[19:04] <paultag> and openssl
[19:04] <stanley> oh ok
[19:05] <paultag> reinstalling the debs you have installed that openssl builds is advised
[19:05] <pda> paultag: good to know, thanks.
[19:05] <paultag> stuff like -dev and -dbg are likely fine to omit, because you likely don't have them installed
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[19:05] <paultag> (but basically, debs to source packages is a 1-to-N relation)
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[19:06] <Death_> So what did you guys think of my Rasp Pi new IO mockup for 10 PI CM boards?
[19:06] <paultag> Death_: looks nuts :)
[19:06] <pda> Death_: want. then again, it'd be ~$400, right?
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[19:08] <fknecht> stanley: ok, let us know when you succeeded and maybe give a short recap?
[19:08] <stanley> Okay :)
[19:08] <Death_> True, but it would be great for a project to really get more out of a small pi cluster. There's no 10/100 ethernet capping the performance.
[19:08] <paultag> stanley: thanks for doing that; nice work pushing through the basics of building a deb :)
[19:08] <paultag> really impressive that you got it so quickly, actually
[19:08] <stanley> it is exciting paultag
[19:08] <paultag> if I can convince you to do some Debian work, let me know when I can start to bribe you :)
[19:09] <pda> Death_: how would they talk? I was thinking the IO board would have an onboard ethernet controller/switch.
[19:09] <stanley> I think it's pretty cool how it's automated and the work that goes into it. I absolutely hate compiling from source and having it spray binaries everywhere
[19:09] <paultag> :)
[19:09] <paultag> It's really nice, aye!
[19:09] <stanley> as for Debian work, I'd be up for it although I don't know what I could offer
[19:09] <Death_> pda I was thinking more in the way that one CM would be the "master" and manages the others or something along those lines
[19:09] <pda> I also hit `Validation FAILED!!` from dget. debian-keyring package installed.
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[19:10] <paultag> You've got packging basics down; starting out doing patches or debianizing something you use a lot would be neat things to do, stanley
[19:10] <paultag> pda: what does dscverify say when you run it over it?
[19:10] <paultag> it should try /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
[19:10] <paultag> (check to make sure that is there)
[19:11] <pda> oh - maybe I need gpg set up better? ...
[19:11] <paultag> Nah, it should do that for you
[19:11] <pda> dscverify: openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc failed signature check:
[19:11] <pda> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/pi/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error
[19:11] <pda> gpg: Signature made Mon Apr 7 14:34:36 2014 PDT using RSA key ID 1A5522DD
[19:11] <pda> gpg: fatal: /home/pi/.gnupg: directory does not exist!
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[19:11] <paultag> try --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
[19:12] <pda> `dscverify --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc` gives same error, it's trying to open /home/pi/.gnupg/secring.gpg
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[19:12] <paultag> --no-default-keyring in there perhaps
[19:13] <paultag> does /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg exist?
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[19:13] <orl> Hi!
[19:13] <orl> I'm trying to build QLC+ on a RPI with Raspbian installed on it.
[19:13] <pda> paultag: yep `-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45859871 Apr 21 2013 /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg` exists, and adding --no-default-keyring gives the same error
[19:14] <paultag> try before --keyring
[19:14] <paultag> and what's it's $? # ?
[19:14] <pda> yep it was this: `dscverify --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc`
[19:14] <pda> paultag: $? = 1
[19:14] <paultag> hurm
[19:14] * paultag tries
[19:15] <pda> I'm afraid debian/ubuntu's package infrastructure works so well normally that I'm lost when it comes to these tools :)
[19:15] <orl> it fails on building due to a problem in linking some libs, seems linked to that problem when the libs are not at the end of the line of gcc, but every lines I've found in the makefiles are at the end. Is there something special about building a soft on a RPI?
[19:15] <paultag> pda: http://paste.debian.net/92528/
[19:15] <paultag> pda: odd!
[19:16] <pda> do you have a ~/.gnupg/ directory?
[19:16] <paultag> yes, but not Kurt's key
[19:16] <Death_> I'm really baffled that something as basic as input length validation was failed to be checked in the package. If only there were more hours in a day I'd spend them reading source-code to find Programming 101 mistakes like the one causing massive issues for a lot of SysAdmins in the world today. Not to mention all the users that go ttheir credentials stolen today. :(
[19:16] <paultag> orl: have logs?
[19:16] <pda> pi@raspbmc:~/heartbleed$ dscverify --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc ; echo $?
[19:16] <pda> openssl_1.0.1g-1.dsc:
[19:16] <pda> Good signature found
[19:16] <pda> validating openssl_1.0.1g.orig.tar.gz
[19:16] <pda> validating openssl_1.0.1g-1.debian.tar.xz
[19:16] <pda> All files validated successfully.
[19:16] <pda> 0
[19:16] <paultag> Oh, meh. It says good signature. Good enough for Government work
[19:16] <pda> just running `mkdir ~/.gnupg/` fixed it
[19:16] <paultag> ah odd
[19:16] <paultag> funky
[19:16] <paultag> most DDs have a GnuPG home, not shocked
[19:17] <paultag> in the mood to file a bug?
[19:17] <orl> paultag: yep, just wait a bit so that I paste them
[19:17] <pda> paultag: where would I file it? This is a raspbmc install of unknown age ;)
[19:17] <paultag> pda: you can email the BTS with your devscripts version (unless it's changed by Raspbian, in which case, we'll have to dupe on a Debian box)
[19:18] <paultag> most of this are unmodified scripts
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[19:22] <orl> pauldag: http://paste.debian.net/92533/
[19:22] <Death_> My Debian box was never exposed to this openssl issue, as it has been disconnected from RJ45 and power since 1.5 year.
[19:23] <Death_> Which reminds me, I should connect it again.
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[19:25] <pda> paultag: FYI that http://incoming.debian.org/openssl_1.0.1g-2.dsc URL 404'd a few times before working.
[19:25] <fknecht> I have 16 boxes affected by this... Half of them raspbian, half debian. Half are fixed now
[19:25] <paultag> It was likely being rebuilt
[19:25] <paultag> That's not for users or developers
[19:25] <paultag> that's there for the Debian buildds to use when doing builds
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[19:26] <paultag> it's just that -2 isn't on on the mirror I was checking against at the time
[19:26] <paultag> so you can use that for now
[19:26] <pda> yep I figured it was unstable prerelease style, all good.
[19:26] <shiftplusone> plugwash, there you are.... people have been joining and asking for the heartbleed fix update every few minutes, heh.
[19:27] <plugwash> Yeah, a combination of infrustructure issues and the fact that some manual attention was needed have slowed things down a bit
[19:27] <Death_> Can't blame them, full access to the memory (even at random spots in 64K increments) is a scary thing.
[19:27] <plugwash> it should be out now
[19:28] <plugwash> (the main fix that is, deb7u6 will be a couple more hours)
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[19:28] <shiftplusone> excellent
[19:28] <pda> might warrant a channel topic?
[19:29] <shiftplusone> plugwash, also, did you modify the raspbian kernel package? I am getting an error when it runs the post-install script. Let me pull up the exact error.
[19:30] <Death_> Get:3 http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main openssl armhf 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u5 [700 kB]
[19:30] <Death_> confirmed
[19:30] <pda> Candidate: 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u5 <-- is that the fixed one? I'm seeing it from http://archive.raspbian.org now.
[19:31] <Death_> Yeah this is the fixed version
[19:31] <pda> nice
[19:31] <Death_> Don't forget to restart all your services that use openssl.
[19:31] <pda> building 1.0.1f from source anyway l
[19:31] <Death_> lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL to get a list
[19:32] <stanley> ditto pda
[19:32] <Defiant> Death_: Don't forget to generate new keys before restarting..
[19:32] <pda> interesting, wifi (wpa_supplicant) is using it. makes sense I guess.
[19:32] <Death_> restart service => generate keys => restart service is what I'm planning
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[19:33] <fknecht> isnt there a U6 that does restart some services?
[19:34] <orl> wow, I miss my ping
[19:34] <orl> @paultag: http://paste.debian.net/92533/
[19:35] <paultag> looks like you're not linking against something you should
[19:35] <paultag> or something
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[19:36] <orl> yes, that's what I think too
[19:36] <gotmoreshell> Mirrors down?
[19:37] <orl> but looking at the makefiles, it's supposed to be OK
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[19:37] <orl> this problem is likely to happen when you don't put the libs at the end of you gcc command
[19:37] <orl> and actually, I was able to build it on a debian jessie without any trouble
[19:37] <orl> that's why I wondered
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[19:39] <Death_> It still looks like some companies don't take this issue very serious.
[19:40] <plugwash> gotmoreshell, not that i'm aware of but I don't closely track all mirrors
[19:40] <plugwash> are you experiancing issues
[19:41] <gotmoreshell> Yes. Let me paste apt-get update
[19:41] <gotmoreshell> Err http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'raspberrypi.collabora.com' Err http://archive.raspberrypi.org wheezy Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'archive.raspberrypi.org' Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org wheezy Release.gpg Tempor
[19:42] <shiftplusone> looks like an issue on your end
[19:42] <shiftplusone> with DNS
[19:42] <gotmoreshell> unchanged but let me check
[19:42] <shiftplusone> since it can't resolve any of the repos, which are unrelated to each other
[19:43] <shiftplusone> can you ping google.com ?
[19:44] <pda> paultag: thanks for the help. plugwash: thanks for pushing the fix, if that's what you did. Heading to lunch while 1.0.1f builds.
[19:45] <gotmoreshell> shiftplusone: works now, apparently reset on reboot :S
[19:45] <gotmoreshell> thanks for the nudge in the correct direction
[19:45] <shiftplusone> np
[19:45] <Death_> whoever helped put the new version on the repo thank you very much for that
[19:46] <pda> +1
[19:48] <Death_> if I don't use any SLL certs, do I need to generate anything else? are server fingerprints potentially compromised?
[19:48] <paultag> SSL*; and the remote servers are the ones that would have the threat against it
[19:49] <paultag> you could in theory dump their private key and then MITM other people with that key
[19:49] <paultag> without an SSL warning
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[19:49] <paultag> so you should enable revocation checking and assume everything on any site with SSL was pwned in the last few days
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[19:50] <Death_> I'm waiting about a week before resetting all my passwords everywhere. (Next monday) to let all the servers enough time to get updated.
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[19:51] <Death_> As there were a lot of PoCs of userdata being hijacked with the 64K dumps.
[19:51] <paultag> Yep.
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[20:01] <fknecht> plugwash: thanks for getting this pushed out! I saw that debian pushed out an u6. Only some service restarts though I think
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[20:03] <plugwash> yeah, u6 is on the master server now but I don't like to trigger public repo updates too close together
[20:04] <Death_> People seem to be activly exploiting the bug on un-patched high-profile servers...
[20:04] <plugwash> so i'll just let it go with the next scheduled push
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[20:04] <Death_> Some have reported even getting Credit Card info...
[20:04] <Death_> Scary stuff.
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[20:04] <plugwash> meanwhile installing u5 and restarting services manually should close up the hole
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[20:10] <fknecht> plugwash: yeah, thats what I'm doing right now. Thanks
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[20:10] <Death_> Thanks again plugwash. Thanks everyone for the nice talk, have a nice day and maybe talk to you some other time.
[20:11] <Death_> (potentially when the first multi-CM rasp IO boards are announced)
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[20:11] <fknecht> generating 8192bit keys on a raspi takes forever... ;)
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[20:11] <stanley> Still compiling atm.
[20:12] <paultag> Entropy is a mess
[20:12] <paultag> ok, bad pun
[20:12] <stanley> use the built in rng? :)
[20:12] <paultag> but yeah, entropy is hard
[20:12] <paultag> I ain't trusting anything I don't have the source or a spec sheet for :)
[20:12] <stanley> the rpi has a hardware rng
[20:12] <stanley> ah, fair enough
[20:12] <paultag> likely nonfree
[20:12] <Fabzgy> The following packages will be upgraded: libssl-dev libssl-doc libssl1.0.0 openssl
[20:12] <Fabzgy> thx for taking care
[20:12] <Darky> <Death_> People seem to be activly exploiting the bug on un-patched high-profile servers...
[20:12] <Darky> someone told me he has nearly 100k working yahoo mail passwords
[20:13] <paultag> ouch
[20:13] <fknecht> yeah, this will haunt us for several months (at least)
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[20:14] <fknecht> hopefully people will also upgrade their ssl now and have some better ciphers
[20:17] <shiftplusone> plugwash, any idea what that's about (line 58) http://paste.debian.net/92549/
[20:20] <plugwash> hmm, looks like a hook script is trying to parse a status message
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[20:40] <pda> I wonder how long this openssl-1.0.1g debuild will take.. about an hour and counting so far. Reminds me of compiling linux kernel on 100 MHz systems. (installed the 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u5 binary package in the mean time).
[20:41] <plugwash> any particular reason for building from source?
[20:41] <pda> mostly because the binary wasn't out yet when I started building.
[20:42] <stanley> It's taking a while on this system too :)
[20:42] <stanley> plugwash: we were waiting for you
[20:42] <paultag> :)
[20:42] <plugwash> 49 minuites on a wandboard quad..................
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[20:42] <paultag> Hah
[20:43] <stanley> pda: It's been going for an hour and 40 minutes for me.
[20:43] <stanley> (oh and paultag bullied us into using debian tools)
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[20:43] <paultag> I am a big bully
[20:43] <stanley> I may as well stop tor, perhaps that'll make it go faster. I need to kill the keys anyway.
[20:43] * stanley sad
[20:43] <plugwash> though only 1:04 on a mx53 so it doesn't look like there is all that much paralellism in the build
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[20:46] <BManojlovic> evening
[20:46] <plugwash> hi
[20:46] <shiftplusone> hey
[20:47] <BManojlovic> is it working for you shiftplusone?
[20:48] <shiftplusone> just testing now
[20:48] <shiftplusone> I got hung up on my own scripts since the raspbian kernel refuses to install.
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[21:19] <shiftplusone> BManojlovic, looks good so far. bootstrapped and chrooted without any intervention.
[21:21] <BManojlovic> nice to hear :)
[21:21] <BManojlovic> tested on wheezy so it should work
[21:21] <shiftplusone> I'll see how I go with making it use another toolchain.
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[21:22] <shiftplusone> but I don't really understand some of the magic your script does
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[21:24] <BManojlovic> in 99% of usecases it is very big overkill
[21:24] <BManojlovic> but i had issue with packaging freeswitch using debian helpers
[21:24] <BManojlovic> so i used trickery to avoid detection :]
[21:24] <sjk> Should I add some other repository to apt-get/aptitude in order to install more up to date packages?
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[21:31] <pda> stanley: making progress? two hours in, looks like debuild openssl-1.0.1g is running the openssl test suite.
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[21:35] <blapto> Hi, has anybody successfully set up xbmc? I see that version 11 is in apt, should I just install that?
[21:36] <stanley> pda: I had the test suite run about 20 minuets ago
[21:36] <shiftplusone> blapto, the version in the repo doesn't do much
[21:36] <sjk> Trying to install git and I can only get a 1.7.x version. Is there some "modern" repository I should tap into if I want to avoid ancient stuff?
[21:36] <stanley> Still going!
[21:36] <stanley> keep me updated pda
[21:36] <blapto> shiftplusone: thanks. I'll look elsewhere
[21:36] <stanley> I'll be AFK now for a while but I will inform you too
[21:36] <shiftplusone> hang on
[21:36] <pda> blapto: do you know about http://www.raspbmc.com/ ?
[21:36] <shiftplusone> blapto, I use the version from this repo http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
[21:37] <blapto> pda: yes, but there's a lot more I want to do with the RPi
[21:37] <blapto> And I'm quite familiar with debian
[21:37] <pda> raspbmc is just raspbian with xbmc working
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[21:37] <blapto> Hrmm
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[21:38] <pda> pi@raspbmc:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:38] <pda> deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
[21:38] <shiftplusone> pda, not sure that's entirely accurate. They use the raspbian repo, but they make some changes which may be problematic
[21:38] <blapto> Ah, right
[21:39] <blapto> I'm doing something mildly complex. Pi (is that the preferred contraction?) with two wireless interfaces. One connects to a wireless network that's some distance away, the other runs dhcp + hostapd
[21:39] <pda> anecdotally, I've been running raspbmc for ~6 months, I regularly ssh in, install arbitrary raspbian packages etc. Works like Raspbian in my experience.
[21:39] <blapto> I haven't get the first set up correctly yet, currently tethering the Pi to my iPhone then redistributing that in my shared house with the internal wireless interface
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[21:40] <blapto> Having difficulty correctly configuring my ALFA AWUS036H. It can see networks, it can auth against them but dhclient never gets an IP
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[21:42] <blapto> pda: I'll consider trying that if I can't get Michael Govern's build running
[21:42] <blapto> Thank you
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[21:43] <pda> cool
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[21:43] <blapto> This is an amazing bit of kit. Very impressed
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