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IRC Log for 2014-05-01

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[0:18] <osman> KillYourTV can i ssh as soon as I boot it up
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[1:38] <osman> Odie_ are you on
[1:39] <osman> is anybody on I have a question about running a script
[1:39] <osman> it says permissio ndenied
[1:39] <osman> even though im logged in as root
[1:39] <osman> how ocme?
[1:39] <osman> how ocme
[1:39] <osman> come*
[1:39] <shiftplusone> chmod +x /path/to/script
[1:40] <osman> okay thank you
[1:40] <osman> there we go
[1:40] <osman> thanks
[1:40] <shiftplusone> np
[1:40] <shiftplusone> that gives it the execute permission.
[1:41] <osman> thank you :)
[1:41] <osman> any of you guys know much about the picam
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[1:42] <shiftplusone> osman, on IRC, just ask the question directly. Nobody responds to "does anyone..." type questions because they don't know if they can help you.
[1:42] <osman> alright thank you
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[1:43] <osman> pretty much my picam is not working much anymore, when ever I use the web interface it says Error in RaspiMJPEG: Camera sent invalid data Restart RaspiMJPEG (./RPi_Cam_Web_Interface_Installer.sh start) or the whole RPi , also the light turns on on bootup then a little bit on start off then it turns off
[1:43] <osman> but if i type a command such as raspistill -o cam.jpg
[1:43] <osman> the light turns on
[1:43] <osman> and says
[1:43] <osman> mmal: Received unexpected camera control callback event, 0x4f525245
[1:44] <shiftplusone> sounds like a firmware issue. Did you run rpi-update or something?
[1:44] <osman> i did that I think I may have found the answer
[1:44] <osman> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70444&p=511259
[1:44] <osman> just googled the error
[1:44] <osman> i just tried out the command now to see what it would do
[1:44] <osman> look at it
[1:45] <osman> do you know what part they are referring to in that thread
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[1:46] <shiftplusone> the connector itself, by the looks of it
[1:46] <shiftplusone> (but nobody actually answers the question in that thread)
[1:47] <osman> darn
[1:47] <osman> i might have fucked something up when i tried to de solder the video componet
[1:48] <shiftplusone> if you have a spare sd card, check if it works on a clean image
[1:48] <shiftplusone> since I still suspect it's a firmware issue
[1:49] <osman> i just reinstalled
[1:49] <osman> to fix it
[1:49] <shiftplusone> and no luck?
[1:50] <osman> yea no luck :(
[1:50] <osman> let me turn a light on one sec
[1:51] <shiftplusone> no spare pi to check which end the problem is on?
[1:51] <osman> im afraid not
[1:51] <osman> : (
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[1:51] <osman> let me look at that thread again one sec
[1:52] <shiftplusone> the thread suggest there's an issue with the physical connection, like something somewhere is lose, or maybe there's dust in the connector.
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[1:53] <osman> im going to try to examine it now
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[2:04] <osman> shiftplusone do you perhaps know what connecter they are talking about
[2:04] <shiftplusone> there aren't many connectors there
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[2:05] <osman> ill google what it looks like
[2:05] <osman> im a noob
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[2:11] <osman> hopefully this works :/
[2:12] <osman> nope
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[2:18] <osman> well @shiftplusone
[2:18] <osman> i hope this isnt the case
[2:18] <osman> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=72529
[2:18] <osman> if so how would I check to see if its burntout
[2:19] <osman> if that was the case would the picams led be turning on
[2:19] <shiftplusone> aside from a visual inspection, no idea.
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[2:22] <shiftplusone> in any case, try to get it replaced
[2:27] <osman> i need it for saturday or im faked
[2:27] <osman> faaacked
[2:27] <shiftplusone> pretty safe to say you might be facked then. =(
[2:28] <osman> damn
[2:28] <osman> let me contact amazon
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[2:28] <osman> if they can send out replacement by friday id be saved
[2:29] <shiftplusone> assuming the camera is the problem and it's not on the pi side
[2:29] <osman> i dont know what it would be
[2:29] <osman> you know on the pi where you connect the camera
[2:29] <osman> theres another one of those "ports"
[2:29] <osman> near where the sd card would be
[2:30] <osman> can you use both?
[2:30] <shiftplusone> nope
[2:30] <shiftplusone> the other one is for the upcoming display module
[2:31] <osman> ill see if they will refund me for both hopefully
[2:32] <osman> offtopic but funney
[2:32] <osman> lol
[2:32] <osman> funny*
[2:32] <osman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBsGMg44Uw
[2:33] <shiftplusone> lost me at 'miley'
[2:33] <osman> lol
[2:33] <osman> i dont like that type of music at all
[2:33] <osman> but i wasn't expecting that whale to blow open like that
[2:33] <osman> its only 15 seconds its a parody
[2:34] <shiftplusone> ew
[2:35] <osman> not sure what would cause that other then buildup of gas
[2:35] <shiftplusone> that would be it
[2:35] <shiftplusone> seen the warning about beached whales and people falling into them?
[2:37] <shiftplusone> apparantly people climb thumb, but because they are decomposed and ewey, the skin breaks and they may fall in
[2:37] <SirLagz> that wouldn't be very fun
[2:37] <shiftplusone> I don't imagine it would
[2:40] * shiftplusone resumes the search for a new mouse pad
[2:44] <osman> im back
[2:44] <osman> lolol
[2:44] <osman> that is so gros
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[2:46] <SirLagz> I need to a molex -> 6pin PCIe connector...I think the one I made may have fried my 9600GT =
[2:46] <SirLagz> =/
[2:49] <shiftplusone> how did you manage that?
[2:49] <shiftplusone> you'd think a connector is a connector.... not many ways to get it wrong if you get the pinout right
[2:50] <shiftplusone> though it seems like a good excuse to upgrade the graphics card
[2:50] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I can't afford a new card lol
[2:50] <shiftplusone> ah
[2:50] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I think the cable itself wasn't up to scratch and may have been depriving my 9600GT of power
[2:51] <shiftplusone> I've been wanting to upgrade for ages, but.... graphics cards are pricey.
[2:51] <shiftplusone> So I am putting up with crappy radeon drivers and 20-40 fps gaming.
[2:54] <shiftplusone> and the new mouse pad I got it just horrible. It's giving me wrist a rash and I think I might catch something nasty from it if I keep using it. O_o
[2:54] <SirLagz> heh
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[2:54] <SirLagz> ouch
[2:54] <SirLagz> yeah my 9600GT is on my workstation. i don't plan on using it for too much gaming
[2:55] <SirLagz> my gaming rig has a lowly 260 lol
[2:55] <shiftplusone> I don't know what these numbers mean any more. Every 5 years I do research, buy the most cost-effective card and then forget about it until it can't run things properly anymore.
[2:55] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: haha I do the same
[2:56] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: the last video card i actually bought was a 7300GS, and that was to run Half-Life 2
[2:56] <SirLagz> sorry, the last card that I bought new
[2:56] <SirLagz> I bough the 260 secondhand for $20
[2:56] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:56] <SirLagz> everything else that I'm using has been donated to me haha
[2:57] <SirLagz> my whole workstation rig has been donated to me
[2:57] <shiftplusone> Hmm, I found a thread on whirlpool saying that coles $1 green bags have a base which makes a perfect mouse pad O_o
[2:57] <SirLagz> case, mobo, cpu, 3x monitors, wireless keyboard/mouse, ram. All donated haha
[2:57] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah, that black stuff works very well as a mousepad
[2:57] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: it's a bit oddly shaped though
[2:58] <shiftplusone> Hm.... maybe I should buy a stack of them, write 'gaming' on them and sell them for $100 like razer does... =/
[2:58] <SirLagz> bahahaha
[2:58] <SirLagz> Big W have a mousepad that's made of similar stuff
[2:59] <shiftplusone> ah well, I ordered some razer one and threw the current one in the trash.
[2:59] <SirLagz> haha
[2:59] <SirLagz> the mousepad I have, i got for free from Telstra
[2:59] <shiftplusone> (except for $8, not $100)
[3:00] <SirLagz> back when i worked for Telstra. They were throwing away stuff, and had this giant mousepad. so i took it :D
[3:00] <shiftplusone> nice
[3:00] <SirLagz> best mousepad I've used so far
[3:00] <osman> n ght guys
[3:00] <SirLagz> osman: night
[3:00] <osman> amazon is real nice
[3:01] <osman> im sending in my pi and the picam
[3:01] <shiftplusone> oh god... after using the new mouse pad (the one with herpes), going to my old ragged one feels so good.
[3:01] <osman> and they let me keep the rest of the stuff in the bundle for free
[3:01] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: haha
[3:01] <shiftplusone> ooh, nice, osman
[3:01] <osman> so i bought a new set
[3:01] <osman> so i made like $30
[3:01] <osman> even though im pretty sure i voided the warrenty on the pi
[3:01] <osman> i took a soldering iron to the video input
[3:01] <osman> like the yellow plastic part
[3:01] <osman> by accident
[3:01] <shiftplusone> good thing there is no video input
[3:01] <shiftplusone> (it's output)
[3:02] <SirLagz> lol
[3:02] <osman> oh fuck me
[3:02] <osman> lol
[3:02] <osman> or im fucked
[3:02] <osman> i need to set up this tft by tmmrw
[3:02] <osman> im making a really awesome project
[3:02] <osman> any of you guys good with it
[3:02] <shiftplusone> what's the controller?
[3:02] <osman> tft screens and setting them up with fbft or what ever its called
[3:02] <osman> im a noob but i think its the gpio
[3:02] <osman> not sure if thats what oyour aksing
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[3:03] <osman> your asking
[3:03] <osman> those pin things
[3:03] <osman> it goes on top of it
[3:03] <shiftplusone> never mind
[3:03] <osman> i bought two adapters for it
[3:03] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: lol
[3:03] <osman> and $30 chinese shipping
[3:03] <osman> im bleeding dry
[3:03] <osman> im only 16 no job :/
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[3:04] <shiftplusone> better than 25 no job >.>
[3:04] <osman> true true
[3:04] <osman> but you can get neetbux
[3:04] <osman> hopefully
[3:04] <osman> unemployment and all that stuff
[3:04] <osman> just freelance
[3:04] <osman> or sell shit to skids on hackforums
[3:04] <osman> i made $3k selling stupid legal whitehat shit on there
[3:05] <osman> anywyas im going to bed
[3:05] <osman> good night and take care
[3:05] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[3:07] <SirLagz> lol...nvidia 8600GT GT630. wtf is that =/
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[3:07] <SirLagz> http://aud.dx.com/product/huolongwang-nvidia-8600gt-gt630-1gb-ddr2-128bit-40nm-graphics-card-w-crt-dvi-hdmi-dual-fan-961305065#.U2G6eVdp6DY
[3:08] * shiftplusone shrugs
[3:08] <shiftplusone> sure does sound like an nvidia model
[3:08] <SirLagz> hmm should I buy stuff off dealextreme or just go buy a new PSU...
[3:08] <SirLagz> a new PSU sounds so tempting...
[3:09] <shiftplusone> new psu
[3:09] <shiftplusone> modular >.>
[3:09] <SirLagz> lol, i wish i could afford modular :P
[3:09] <SirLagz> Big Ant PSUs...ever used em ?
[3:10] <shiftplusone> nope
[3:10] <SirLagz> they're cheap, but I don't trust em =/
[3:10] <SirLagz> next one up from that is $69 though =/
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[3:10] <shiftplusone> Haven't bought a new PSU in many years either, so I am clueless there
[3:11] <SirLagz> might drop by MSY on the way home...
[3:11] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: same :D
[3:11] <shiftplusone> Hell, the current one barely manages to boot the PC
[3:11] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I've been stretching my PSUs...but they're slowly failing haha
[3:11] <shiftplusone> it kind of begins to start up, then derps a little... and then starts again and boot properly.
[3:11] <SirLagz> slowly but surely, attrition is eating away at my PSU stockpile
[3:11] <shiftplusone> PSUs can fail slowly?
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[3:12] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: to a point...then they die completely :P
[3:12] <shiftplusone> In my experience there's usually a bang, the smell of magic smoke and burnt dust. It's all over very quickly >.>
[3:12] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I have a few that have failed slowly
[3:12] <SirLagz> until they no longer provide enough power
[3:12] <SirLagz> for the old ones
[3:12] <shiftplusone> hm
[3:12] <SirLagz> the new ones just stop booting the computer anymore
[3:14] <shiftplusone> well, I am off. Good luck with your woes
[3:14] <SirLagz> hmm if this corsair 350 has a 6pin i might get it
[3:14] <SirLagz> cya
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[3:17] <mgmg> hello eveyone, im new and noticed some errors when updating. my sys is Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l, and Linux raspberrypi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[3:17] <mgmg> The error i get is .. wow it just solved itself.
[3:17] * mgmg blushes
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[4:45] <rohx_> Hi I search a good tutorial for unattended upgrade configurations? Unfortunately I couldn't find a good tutorial. I'm not really sure which settings are helpful for a mail server
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[12:54] <ioudas> has anyone ever seen this before? Apr 30 19:02:07 raspberrypi kernel: [30731.622069] hub 1-1.3:1.0: port 4 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
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[14:37] <stuartf_> my raspbian install has a load that is constantly over 4 and in top I see VCHIQ-0, VCHIQr-0, and VCHIQs-0 all in state D
[14:37] <stuartf_> any ideas why it would do that? or how to fix it?
[14:38] <stuartf_> I can't even run `apt-get update` because it gets stuck waiting for io
[14:46] <diederik> stuartf_: did you look at http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=19334&start=25 ?
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[14:53] <stuartf_> diederik: I did see that, but it looks like it's talking about a firmware bug from 2012
[14:55] <diederik> have you updated your firmware, either through raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel or rpi-update?
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[14:57] <stuartf_> diederik: yes, I used rpi-update
[14:58] <diederik> ok. was worth a shot
[14:59] <stuartf_> if it helps, my `uname -a` says: Linux rodan 3.12.18+ #677 PREEMPT Mon Apr 28 22:45:00 BST 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[15:08] <diederik> it seems to be hardware related, not exactly my strong suite (iow I won't be able to help you)
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[15:34] <dlman> Is there a way in python to interact with the wolfson audio card?
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[16:11] <kenrestivo> where does that #622 in the kernel version string come from?
[16:13] <shiftplusone> kenrestivo, I believe that they bump it every time they update it https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commits/master/boot/kernel.img
[16:13] <shiftplusone> but note that it's done by the foundation, not the raspbian people
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[16:38] <verdule> I have successfully remote logged into my RPi from my laptop using the ssh service included in my RPi and client in my laptop. Great.
[16:39] <verdule> At this moment I have the IP address on my RasPi be static assigned. Will the same login work if the RPi's address is assigned via DHCP?
[16:41] <verdule> Who's answering here?
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[16:45] <verdule> How do I get someone's attention? No-one has replied to me about remote login and the Raspberry Pi.
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[16:45] <shiftplusone> verdule, the question's isn't clear (to me at least). What does the login have to do with the IP?
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[16:46] <verdule> It worked if the Raspberry Pi's address is static assigned, as far as I know. I'm curious about whether it'll work if DHCP assigned.
[16:47] <verdule> The login mechanism is the included ssh, on both the RPi (server side) and the Linux laptop (client side.)
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[16:47] <shiftplusone> as long as the network itself and the pi is cconfigured properly, the login is not affected.
[16:48] <verdule> Thanks for the info. I did both command line only login and with ssh -X.
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[16:48] <dlman> Is there a way in python to interact with the wolfson audio card?
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[16:52] <verdule> Okay, I have another topic. Some time earlier this year you informed about how to disable a service daemon such as ntpd. Thanks for the info.
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[16:53] <verdule> Now, I want to know how to turn it back on so I can disable the addon clock I have on my RPi.
[16:54] <verdule> Else the RPi will be confused about time it is now.
[16:56] <verdule> What should to turn back on the daemon and have it startup every time I bootup my RPi?
[16:59] <verdule> Hello anyone?
[17:00] <ioudas> has anyone ever seen this before? Apr 30 19:02:07 raspberrypi kernel: [30731.622069] hub 1-1.3:1.0: port 4 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
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[17:04] <verdule> Perhaps I should go back to the file I recorded from our discussion that day, to find out what to do to restart ntpd. Alas are all daemons controlled the same way? What is this mechanism?
[17:05] <shiftplusone> verdule, I think this is the info you're after https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon
[17:07] <shiftplusone> verdule, and if you want to understand it all fully, the gory detail is here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html#_stage_4_the_normal_debian_system and in 'man init'
[17:08] <verdule> o init is the startup process. I have read elsewhere Linuxes come with one out of quite a few different startup system of processes.
[17:09] <shiftplusone> yeah, but the one wheezy uses right now is sysvinit
[17:09] <shiftplusone> and that's the init system the man page talks about.
[17:09] <verdule> are running /etc/init.d/[daemon] and running services [daemon] exactly the same?
[17:10] <verdule> What init system is Ubuntu? Upstart?
[17:10] <verdule> What other init system also exist amongst Linuxes?
[17:10] <shiftplusone> I am not sure if it's 100% the same, I haven't looked at the service command too closely, but in my experience, it behaves the same.
[17:11] <verdule> I get confused sometimes when there are two or more Linux commands that act the same.
[17:12] <shiftplusone> yeah, it doesn't help, ey?
[17:12] <shiftplusone> what's more annoying is when they act slightly differently, but you have to dig through the manpages of both to find the one sentence which explains the difference.
[17:12] <verdule> Yeah and manpages are deep and technical.
[17:13] <shiftplusone> after reading many of them, it pays off though. You learn to quickly skim through and pick out the information you're after.
[17:14] <verdule> Okay how do I re-enable ntp and make this startup upon every bootup of my RPi?
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[17:14] <shiftplusone> using the innserv command, as the wiki says
[17:15] <shiftplusone> insserv ntp
[17:15] <verdule> Nothing about innserv on the wiki.
[17:15] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon#Enabling_daemons
[17:15] <verdule> Never heard of innserv before.
[17:16] <shiftplusone> what did you use? updare-rc.d or whatever it is?
[17:18] <verdule> I used update-rc.d. Does even this behave the same as the commands /etc/init.d and service? I get annoyed at identical or near identical commands.
[17:18] * shiftplusone shrugs
[17:18] <shiftplusone> check the man page >.>
[17:19] <verdule> Okay! I'm getting tired now!
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[18:10] <stuartf_> verdule: /etc/init.d and service are used to change the status of the daemon now, innserv and update-rc.d are used to change what the status of the daemon will be on boot
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[18:12] <stuartf_> service is just a wrapper, it runs the /etc/init.d script with a clean environment (like it would be at boot) and also abstracts away the various init systems so that you won't need to figure out if the script is in /etc/init.d or /etc/upstart or wherever systemd puts them
[18:14] <diederik> excellent answers stuartf_, but verdule already left ;-)
[18:15] <stuartf_> similarly, update-rc.d figures out some dependency information and calls insserv to update
[18:15] <stuartf_> doh, I shouldn't have turned off join/part notifications :P
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[18:49] <osman> hello
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[20:06] <osman> Odie_ are you on
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[21:22] <emilsedgh> guys, i have a 3g modem and it works on my raspbian, except that its slower... i can download up to 80KiB on my laptop, but on Raspbian, it barely gets to 40KiB. Any ideas?
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[21:27] <gnarface> emilsedgh: you might be able to get improvements if you change how you actually transfer the files, but the poor little thing only has a USB bus ...
[21:27] <emilsedgh> gnarface: ahm, what files?
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[21:28] <gnarface> emilsedgh: i guess i just assumed you were doing sustained file transfers for the benchmark
[21:29] <gnarface> emilsedgh: if the higher speed requires a higher power mode the device may not be able to reach it
[21:29] <emilsedgh> gnarface: oh, the benchmarks are pretty accurate. I wget a file using mu laptop, get 80KiB, connect the usb dongle to pi and download the same file and get 30-40KiB :D
[21:29] <emilsedgh> oh, so it might be power. I see. what if i connect a powered usb hub to it?
[21:29] <gnarface> emilsedgh: did you try?
[21:30] <gnarface> emilsedgh: its worth a try if you have one handy...
[21:30] <emilsedgh> dont have one, but yeah its worth a try.
[21:31] <gnarface> but your other machine has a pci bus
[21:31] <gnarface> so keep that in mind
[21:31] <gnarface> its at an inherent advantage for IO
[21:31] <gnarface> even the ethernet on the pi shares the USB bus
[21:32] <gnarface> but you'd be surprised how much cpu power some websites need....
[21:33] <gnarface> and the pi only has 512MB of memory, which isn't a lot of buffer space to download big files with, especially if you have a lot of other programs running
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[21:34] <gnarface> so there could be a lot of culprits to this
[21:34] <jlnr> When I play an SDL2 game in Raspbian, keystrokes "leak" into the terminal that I use to start the game. Is this a common problem in Raspbian? Is there a good keyword to google around?
[21:36] <jlnr> If it isn't, then I should probably open an issue in libsdl.
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[21:37] <gnarface> jlnr: you're sure its not a bug in the game?
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[21:39] <jlnr> It might be a bug caused by the fact that I'm running a game in Ruby that uses SDL2 through my own bindings, but the actual code that uses SDL2 is very clean. I don't know what my code could be doing wrong to even do that, since I understand nothing about how input works on Linux :)
[21:40] <jlnr> I just call all the normal SDL2 input functions. The SDL2 README for Raspberry Pi mentions that this can happen if you run a game over ssh but without root, but that it shouldn't affect local games. Hmm.
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[21:41] <gnarface> jlnr: what is the name of the executable?
[21:41] <gnarface> jlnr: the actual culprit comes out!
[21:41] <jlnr> ruby :)
[21:41] <jlnr> ruby mygame.rb, which dynamically loads a C extension (.so) that contains SDL2 and the actual code.
[21:42] <gnarface> jlnr: well try for example running it like this: ruby mygame.rb > /dev/null 2>&1
[21:42] <gnarface> (pipes stdout and stderr to a black hole
[21:42] <gnarface> )
[21:42] <jlnr> Oh, it's not the game's stdout that is the problem. What I mean is that if I press "up", "enter" in the game, this will also execute something on the terminal.
[21:43] <jlnr> It does add another dimension to games, though :D
[21:43] <gnarface> well i'd try that anyway
[21:43] <jlnr> Yep, will do
[21:43] <gnarface> but maybe it is a problem with sdl
[21:44] <gnarface> hmm
[21:44] <gnarface> i got nothing
[21:44] <gnarface> do all SDL games do that, would be my next question
[21:44] <gnarface> if you're using some sort of ruby SDL binding, i wouldn't eliminate ruby as a culprit ...
[21:45] <gnarface> er, suspect
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[21:47] <jlnr> I couldn't find much on installing SDL2 on Raspbian, so I doubt many games that run on the Pi use it. But I can try to find a game that uses SDL1 and see if it has the same problem.
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[22:12] <jlnr> gnarface: I'll try other SDL games when I have a chance, but I just realised that my USB gamepad works and obviously does not suffer from this issue :)
[22:12] <jlnr> thanks
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[22:48] <osman> I really need some help
[22:49] <osman> turns out the suggest products that are compatible with my pi's lcd screen dont work
[22:49] <osman> I need to have some sort of adapter to the bord to the screen
[22:49] <osman> board
[22:49] <osman> I have one with two female ports for the pins
[22:49] <osman> but my lcd is a female connector it needs to be a male one
[22:49] <osman> is there anyway someone could help me
[22:50] <plugwash> It would help if you told us what exactly you had bought
[22:50] <osman> ok
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[22:51] <osman> I bought this is the screen - http://imall.iteadstudio.com/raspberry-pi-2-8-tft-add-on.html and I bought these two adapters http://imall.iteadstudio.com/im130425001.html and http://imall.iteadstudio.com/im130609001.html
[22:51] <osman> i didnt mean to buy the last one
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[22:51] <osman> It powers the lcd screen if I use the last ones blue part
[22:51] <osman> I am not sure the technical terms
[22:52] <osman> but the sim adapter will turn on the tft screen but I doubt it would work but I wouldnt know
[22:52] <osman> im not good with this stuff
[22:52] <osman> I can go on a cam to better explain it I am not very familiar with all the terms
[22:53] <plugwash> If they are advertised as just plugging together (which it looks like they are) and they don't then I would suggest complaining to who you bought it from
[22:54] <osman> im going to do that
[22:54] <osman> but im pressed for time : (
[22:54] <osman> i have to finish this project by friday night
[22:54] <plugwash> it COULD just be a matter of plugging some pins between the connectors but before I actually did that I would want to know if it was just a mistake fitting the wrong connector and wasn't that way for some reason
[22:54] <plugwash> :(
[22:57] <osman> plugwash do you have skype or something
[22:58] <plugwash> No I don't have skype and I don't see how it would help anyway
[22:59] <diederik> I have pushed some commits to the raspbian-ua-netinst GitHub repo (https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst) which should fix the issue when you want to install / (root) to an USB drive/stick
[22:59] <osman> oh okay
[22:59] <osman> but plugwash see the ribbon thing with two female ports for the pin
[23:00] <osman> I can plug one side into the pins on the pi
[23:00] <diederik> If there are ppl willing to test and report back (preferably on issue #47), that would be great :-)
[23:00] <osman> and then take the blue part from the sim900 adapter
[23:00] <osman> and plug it in the other
[23:00] <osman> the adapter has two sets of pins
[23:00] <osman> and i put the other set of pins into the lcd
[23:00] <osman> and it lights up
[23:00] <osman> but will it still work the wayit should?
[23:00] <plugwash> I have no idea, they aren't my products
[23:01] <osman> ah okay
[23:01] <plugwash> Your options are to either risk it or to wait for the vendor to respond
[23:01] <osman> well im going to risk it
[23:01] <osman> but in theory do you think its possible that it would work
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[23:03] <plugwash> I have no idea what if anything the circuitry and wiring on that board is
[23:03] <plugwash> so I really can't say
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