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[7:12] <shawnbon206> hello
[7:13] <shawnbon206> http://hastebin.com/vuqidoceqo.vhdl
[7:13] <shawnbon206> i need this package but for some reason it is not available on rasbian (i think?)
[7:13] <shawnbon206> is it okay to put wheezy repo in there, pinned low
[7:14] <shawnbon206> so i can manually pull packages from it
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[7:14] <shawnbon206> this particular package is arcetecture independent
[7:19] <ShorTie> most likely need to build it from sources, if it is not in apt-get
[7:19] <shawnbon206> so should i put debian source repo in there?
[7:20] <shawnbon206> like debian.org
[7:20] <ShorTie> i don't think that will work
[7:21] <ShorTie> that stuff would not be compiled right i think
[7:24] <shawnbon206> deb-src http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
[7:24] <shawnbon206> uhm
[7:26] <shawnbon206> maybe i just needed controb non-free
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[7:28] <shawnbon206> nope
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[7:39] <shawnbon206> hows jessie
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[12:35] <ioudas> Has anyone seen this before? rtw_cmd_thread: DriverStopped(0) SurpriseRemoved(1) break at line 482 any ideas on why a connected device that was never removed would do this
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[12:36] <Odie_> usb?§
[12:37] <ioudas> yes
[12:37] <Odie_> draws too much power and causes brownout?
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[12:37] <Odie_> I had numerous issues with usb devices takeing too much power from the pi and causing issues
[12:38] <Odie_> I have y-cable that can feed power to usb device (and pi, lol) via the usb port it connects to
[12:38] <Odie_> powered hub would do the same
[12:38] <ioudas> yeah this is on a powered hub... sounds like the generic response for anything related to USB on the pi
[12:38] <ioudas> time to junk this crap
[12:40] <Odie_> just a guess from my part, but I had some issues with the power
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[12:52] <[Ex0r]> hmm, if I make an image of an 8gb sd card, and I write it to a 16gb sd card, than expand the file-system, will it fill out the rest of the 16 gb with useable disk space?
[12:52] <[Ex0r]> then*
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[12:53] <gnarface> that's the theory at least....
[12:53] <atouk> yes
[12:53] <[Ex0r]> it wont cause a problem though being it as an 8gb sd card the image was made with ?
[12:53] <gnarface> not unless you do it wrong
[12:54] <[Ex0r]> i used win32diskimager to read the image
[12:54] <[Ex0r]> than i put the 16gb in and write it
[12:54] <[Ex0r]> than boot it up and use raspi-config to expand the file system
[12:55] <gnarface> oh i would just use gparted to resize it
[12:55] <gnarface> raspbi-config might work too...
[12:55] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], all of that will work just fine.
[12:55] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], it's going the other way that can be tricky (if you don't know how).
[12:55] <[Ex0r]> oh, going from 16 to 8
[12:56] <[Ex0r]> k thanks
[12:56] <atouk> no. That's how I did my USB HD (150 gig). then I just changed the cmdline.txt to point to that as the rootfs (root=/dev/sda2), except I had to use a linux box to expand teh filesystem since raspi-config couldn't
[12:58] <shiftplusone> sure, raspi-config makes a lot of assumptions... it's not meant to be used with a usb root like that.
[12:58] <shiftplusone> if it's just an sd card with the same partition arrangement, there's no problem.
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[13:55] <tcz8> Hello #Rasbian !
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[13:57] <tcz8> Im here to abuse you guys with a quick question, What do I do when installing a package with apt-get and it cant fetch one of the dependencies? more specificaly im trying to install "mc" midnight commander and it cant fetch libxml2_2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu2_armhf.deb but when I go on the repository i see that in http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/libx/libxml2/ the nmu2 version isnt available its the nmu3 version now...
[13:58] <loadbang> hi all
[13:58] <tcz8> im assuming that libxml2_2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu3_armhf.deb is just an updated version of libxml2_2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu2_armhf.deb and the MC package needs to be corrected... am I right?
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[14:00] <loadbang> having a few troubles in using apt-get
[14:00] <loadbang> when installing or updating I’m getting “dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):”
[14:00] <loadbang> and it fails
[14:03] <tcz8> What are you trying to install Loadbang?
[14:03] <loadbang> ffmpeg
[14:03] <tcz8> use pastebin
[14:04] <loadbang> upgrade is trying to update base-files dpkg dpkg-dev libdpkg-perl
[14:04] <tcz8> to send us the entire output you get from apt-get install ffmpg
[14:04] <tcz8> did you do apt-get update before?
[14:04] <loadbang> update then upgrade
[14:04] <loadbang> always
[14:05] <diederik> tcz8: in the pool directory are the packages from all suites (wheezy and jessie). The problem you're facing could be that that package isn't available in your suite
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[14:05] <loadbang> http://pastebin.com/W1yHjp6a
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[14:07] <tcz8> diederik: if I told apt-get to ignore the missing package and install the updated version do you think it may work? is it worth a try?
[14:07] <diederik> you can't tell it to ignore a dependency
[14:08] <diederik> ignoring recommends or suggest is no problem, but not with dependencies.
[14:08] <diederik> how is the dependency specified? A very exact version or more general?
[14:10] <diederik> what suite are you using? wheezy or jessie?
[14:12] <tcz8> loadbang: i think your problem is with Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm line 44, <DEBCONF_CONFIG> chunk 3.
[14:13] <diederik> tcz8: if the updated version satisfies the dependency, then it probably works
[14:13] <tcz8> loadbang: id investigate <DEBCONF_CONFIG> if I were you
[14:13] <diederik> loadbang: you should first fix '17 not fully installed or removed.' before installing anything new
[14:14] <loadbang> diederik: how would I do that?
[14:14] <diederik> try 'apt-get -f install'
[14:14] <tcz8> hehe I was thinking that
[14:15] <tcz8> diederik: im not sure how to verify how the dependency is specified
[14:15] <diederik> do you have aptitude installed?
[14:15] <tcz8> you mean apt-get and apt-cache etc...?
[14:16] <diederik> try 'aptitude show mc'
[14:16] <diederik> no, aptitude is another front-end to apt/dpkg
[14:16] <tcz8> yep its doing its thing
[14:16] <loadbang> -f install gves Use of uninitialized value $directory in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm line 49, <DEBCONF_CONFIG> chunk 3.
[14:16] <loadbang> gives*
[14:16] <loadbang> and fails
[14:16] <tcz8> haha
[14:16] <tcz8> perl
[14:17] <diederik> but apt-cache will probably work too (I'm not really familiar with the apt-get programs, I use aptitude for everything)
[14:17] <tcz8> loadbang: ya wait up i found a post of a guy with the same problem
[14:17] <tcz8> loadbang: read through this you may find your solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1847445
[14:17] <loadbang> cheers
[14:17] <tcz8> its a very similar problem, problem while installing and perl giving out errors
[14:18] <tcz8> diederik: http://pastebin.com/btUJuxZu
[14:19] <tcz8> Oh I think i see what you mean, its showing dependncies and there are equals and greater then signs
[14:20] <diederik> tcz8: indeed. An = specifies a strict dependency ... it must be that version or it won't work
[14:20] <tcz8> but it seems the package i need is not a direct dependecy of MC but of a sub package
[14:20] <diederik> but I don't see libxml as a dependency ...
[14:21] <tcz8> quick question, whel i look at the url of a file its trying to fetch, in my case the part to the file is http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/libx/libxml2/
[14:21] <diederik> aptitude dependency resolver is much more powerful then apt-get's. So try 'aptitude install mc' and see what it comes up with
[14:21] <tcz8> is the last folder the name of the package?
[14:21] <tcz8> k
[14:21] <diederik> often, but not always
[14:22] <tcz8> good to know
[14:22] <tcz8> damn
[14:22] <tcz8> lol right away, first thing aptitude isntalls is the missing package lol
[14:22] <tcz8> and it installed the updated version
[14:22] <tcz8> funny
[14:23] <diederik> haha
[14:23] <tcz8> I somehow tought aptitude was a gui for apt-get
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[14:24] <diederik> it also has a (text-mode) gui, but I prefer the straight CLI interface
[14:24] <tcz8> Thanks for your time diederik
[14:24] <diederik> yw
[14:25] <tcz8> Oh wow, I love MC
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[14:25] <tcz8> im doing some R&D at work, testing a bunch of stuff. the time I wasted just navigating the directories....
[14:26] <diederik> try 'aptitude --help' for a quick list of the commands it supports
[14:26] <tcz8> yep, ill be using that now
[14:33] <tcz8> diederik: maybe you have a better memory than I do, i have seen a while ago a program that could take the output of a program like grep or awk and feed its output line by line to another program (instead of sending the whole grep output) you wouldnt know what im talking about by any chance?
[14:33] <tcz8> been searching everywere for that thing
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[14:42] <stuartf> tcz8: xargs
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[14:43] <tcz8> stuartf: YAH!!! thats the one! thanks a bunch!
[14:45] <stuartf> np
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[15:56] <Vikky> Hi
[15:58] <Vikky> Is there anyone here? :x
[15:58] <dougiel> I am
[16:00] <shawnbon206> can someone please help me troubleshoot mediawiki
[16:00] <shawnbon206> hi
[16:00] <Vikky> Hi!
[16:01] <Vikky> I bought a raspberry pi a couple of days ago, still playing around with it. But I want to settle down and decide which OS I should pick - which one takes the less process of the device?
[16:02] <Vikky> I want to have a OS with a GUI and with a possibility to penetrate wifi's - but not Kali Linux
[16:02] <shawnbon206> Vikky that depends on your needs but a netinstall of raspbian or openelec are the top 2 (best)
[16:02] <shawnbon206> oh gui
[16:02] <Vikky> wait
[16:02] <Vikky> maybe I am wrong with GUI
[16:03] <shawnbon206> yeah you are
[16:03] <Vikky> I want to exist...
[16:03] <Vikky> :P
[16:03] <Vikky> I mean, such as windows and a design and stuff
[16:03] <Vikky> I thought so :x
[16:04] <dougiel> that is a gui
[16:04] <Vikky> ahhh
[16:04] <dougiel> graphic user interface
[16:04] <Vikky> :)
[16:05] <Vikky> Can I browse raspbian without experiencing any laggs?
[16:05] <shawnbon206> gui can also be a recursive acronym
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[16:05] <shawnbon206> gui user interface (kidding)
[16:05] <dougiel> and open elec is for media centre - raspbian would be the best for a destop application
[16:05] <Vikky> Cool :3
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[16:06] <dougiel> open embeded linux entertainment centre (ELEC)
[16:06] <Vikky> Right now I got Tiny Core installed on my SD-card
[16:07] <tcz8> Vikky: you could probably try looking for tools that use a text based interface
[16:07] <shawnbon206> suckless tools ftw
[16:07] <tcz8> like the terminal version of ethereal used to be
[16:07] <Vikky> text based interface confues me :p
[16:07] <Vikky> confuses*
[16:07] <shawnbon206> guis confuse me now
[16:08] <shawnbon206> theyre so restrictive
[16:08] <dougiel> I always liked the cli rather than the gui
[16:08] <Vikky> Is it possible to run Lubuntu on Pi? Or Damn Small Linux?
[16:09] <tcz8> well your stuck with cli then unless you dont mind x being slow
[16:09] <Vikky> stuck with cli?
[16:09] <Vikky> What is cli? :P
[16:09] <tcz8> command line interface
[16:09] <tcz8> aka THE PROMPT
[16:09] <shawnbon206> aka LUI
[16:09] <Vikky> When am I stuck with the cli?
[16:09] <dougiel> ncurses
[16:09] <shawnbon206> just to confused you
[16:09] <Vikky> on DSL ?
[16:09] <dougiel> no
[16:10] <Vikky> Sorry, this is very confusing. I barely know Linux o.o
[16:10] <Vikky> I want something that runs smooth basically
[16:10] <dougiel> Vikky, I was waiting for that..,.
[16:10] <tcz8> If you used the Raspbian installer instead of a prebuilt image and select no packages you will only have the bare minimum installed
[16:10] <Vikky> cool
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[16:10] <dougiel> I have avoided windows with mac and linux for years let me save you some time....
[16:10] <tcz8> but you will have no graphical interface
[16:10] <Vikky> o.o
[16:11] <dougiel> rasbian has gue
[16:11] <Vikky> but if I ant to have minimum and a GUI?
[16:11] <dougiel> gui
[16:11] <Vikky> want*
[16:11] <tcz8> only if you isntall the desktop package
[16:11] <dougiel> raspbian
[16:11] <shawnbon206> Vikky what do you want to use it for? set yourself a goal
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[16:11] <tcz8> you guys are probably using the Raspbian image, im talking about using the installer
[16:11] <Vikky> Well, first of all browsing stuff on the internet. And penetrating wifi's with Fern
[16:12] <shawnbon206> oh so its really just a desktop
[16:12] <dougiel> the raspberry pi performs like win 98 first edition on a pi Vikky
[16:12] <dougiel> you will not be able to run windows apps on linux
[16:12] <Vikky> I know :P
[16:12] <dougiel> on a pi
[16:13] <dougiel> :)
[16:13] <tcz8> if you use the Raspbian image from raspberrypi.org its got a lean desktop interface all pre installed for you
[16:13] <Vikky> in which OS is it like a first win 98 edition?
[16:13] <Vikky> oh
[16:13] <dougiel> yes
[16:13] <tcz8> but even with a lean windows manager its still SLOW
[16:13] <Vikky> even with "NOOB" installer?
[16:13] <dougiel> as fast
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[16:13] <dougiel> but different look
[16:13] <tcz8> cause the gui is not accelerated by the "graphic card" on the pi yet
[16:13] <dougiel> NOOB does raspbian
[16:13] <dougiel> never will be
[16:13] <tcz8> Wayland is going ti fix that tough... tried the beta, its pretty cool
[16:14] <Vikky> Wayland?
[16:14] <shawnbon206> wayland i saw the preview
[16:14] <dougiel> really?
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[16:14] <shawnbon206> yeah its gonna make the pi desktopable
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[16:14] <tcz8> Yep, they are using some scaler and other stuff on the Videocore to accelerate the user interface
[16:14] <dougiel> nice
[16:14] <tcz8> still in developement but in a few months it should be ready
[16:14] <Vikky> Is it a psycical device?
[16:14] <tcz8> non its software
[16:14] <Vikky> Or just a new OS
[16:14] <Vikky> ahh
[16:14] <shawnbon206> its a xorg replacement
[16:15] <tcz8> they basicly have to .... ya code a new Xorg
[16:15] <paultag> "sorta"
[16:15] <paultag> It's not quite trying to do what xorg did
[16:15] <tcz8> or adapt i guess
[16:15] <paultag> it's what xorg has become
[16:15] <Vikky> Maybe I should go on Raspbian through "NOOB"
[16:15] <shawnbon206> semantics
[16:15] <paultag> well, it's an important distinction
[16:15] <paultag> xorg was intended to be network transparent
[16:16] <shawnbon206> yeah were just trying to simplify it to a linux noob
[16:16] <paultag> wayland was designed to use local hardware
[16:16] <Vikky> Is there a way to make these "CMD" boots go away?
[16:16] <Vikky> they are not pretty :'(
[16:16] <tcz8> ?
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[16:17] <dougiel> yes min boots right into gui
[16:17] <dougiel> mine
[16:17] <Vikky> And you run...?
[16:17] <Vikky> Raspbian?
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[16:17] <shawnbon206> mine has a gui.. at port 80
[16:18] <tcz8> I guess it doesnt really matter for the Pi, what they want is to make it a real alternative for a basic desktop computer... right now its too slow for daily use
[16:18] <Vikky> You mean wayland?
[16:18] <Vikky> Where can I see their project?
[16:18] <tcz8> Install the latest raspbian image from raspberrypi.org
[16:18] <tcz8> then quit the gui
[16:19] <tcz8> and you can launch wayland its pre installed
[16:19] <tcz8> but you cant do anything in it, its missing a start menu and everything
[16:19] <shawnbon206> is it on wheezy?
[16:19] <shawnbon206> or jessie
[16:19] <tcz8> yep
[16:19] <tcz8> well... whatever raspberrypi.org has up for download
[16:20] <shawnbon206> i got an extra sdcard...
[16:20] <Vikky> Maynard looks cool
[16:20] <tcz8> :)
[16:20] <tcz8> yep
[16:20] <tcz8> dont remember the cmd to launch it, youll have to google it
[16:20] <Vikky> I am going to try Raspbian first of all
[16:21] <tcz8> there is some info here http://wayland.freedesktop.org/raspberrypi.html
[16:21] <Vikky> Thanks
[16:21] <Vikky> :3
[16:21] <shawnbon206> then do gentoo Vikky
[16:21] <shawnbon206> or arcj
[16:21] <tcz8> but you dont need to install it on the latess version the image
[16:22] <tcz8> Vikky, if you try gentoo you will shoot yourself in the head before you have xorg running
[16:22] <tcz8> shawnbon206: your evil :P
[16:22] <Vikky> I have no idea what gentoo is
[16:22] <Vikky> x)
[16:22] <tcz8> its a pretty cool linux distro with a twist
[16:22] <shawnbon206> i am kidding. the only time i ever wish i was running arch is when i encounter deb package hell
[16:22] <shawnbon206> gentoo, never wished that
[16:22] <Vikky> what twist? ;)
[16:23] <tcz8> you have to tell it every single specifications and features that your hardware supports and then you get to compile the entire OS from source code
[16:23] <atouk> get raspbian. it's teh most popular, and the one most likely to get answers about here, and in #raspbian
[16:23] <Vikky> yah
[16:23] <Vikky> I will go for raspbian
[16:23] <Vikky> Do I need to update the "noob" package?
[16:23] <tcz8> its hardcore, but it really optimizes every part of the os for your hardware but its a pain in the ass to setup at first
[16:24] <shawnbon206> after you install youll "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" as root
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[16:24] <tcz8> just go here http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[16:24] <shawnbon206> thats the command to install
[16:24] <tcz8> and download the Raspbian image, flash it to your sdcard with win32diskimager
[16:24] <shawnbon206> er
[16:24] <Vikky> oo
[16:24] <shawnbon206> update
[16:25] <tcz8> but if you do a dist upgrade dont you end up with Jessie?
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[16:25] <tcz8> that will take a while on a Pi
[16:25] <Vikky> with Jessie...?
[16:25] <shawnbon206> tcz8 no not unless you change your sources to jessie
[16:25] <tcz8> Oh thats right
[16:26] <tcz8> Jessie is the new version of Debian
[16:26] <tcz8> which Rasbian is based on
[16:26] <Vikky> ohhh
[16:26] <tcz8> Jessie is considered "unstable" / in developement
[16:26] <tcz8> but... im sure its not that bad
[16:26] <Vikky> uhmm
[16:26] <stuartf> it's "testing" actually
[16:26] <tcz8> if you dont want issues stick to wheezy you wont see the difference
[16:26] <shawnbon206> the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is dist- will remove packages which were automatically installed which no longer are deps of anything
[16:26] <stuartf> "sid" is unstable
[16:27] <tcz8> lunch time see ya all l8tr
[16:27] <Vikky> I am unsure if I should use "NOOB" guide or flash it to my card-guide
[16:27] <Vikky> see you
[16:27] <Vikky> thanks for the help!
[16:27] <shawnbon206> i think
[16:27] <Vikky> I can't think myself, I am a newpi
[16:27] <Vikky> hueaeahu
[16:27] <shawnbon206> i never used apt-get upgrade in my life and my jessie/sid laptop never gets messed up for it
[16:28] <Vikky> I even never used the commando thing yet
[16:28] <Vikky> :x
[16:28] <Vikky> I will go for the noob guide
[16:28] <Vikky> :x
[16:29] <tcz8> Vikky: nm noob
[16:29] <shawnbon206> hifi ua netinst
[16:29] <shawnbon206> dooo eeet
[16:30] <tcz8> noob just gives you a menu at boot asking you to choose between a few different distro and then it isntalls it
[16:30] <tcz8> flash rasbian with the image and boot, thats all there is to it
[16:30] <Vikky> ahh
[16:30] <tcz8> youll get right in the gui
[16:30] <Vikky> I guess ill go for that
[16:30] <atouk> then get a copy of Linux for Dummis, or some such
[16:30] <tcz8> hehe
[16:30] <tcz8> giyf
[16:30] <Vikky> I should :P for sure
[16:30] <tcz8> google is your friend
[16:31] <Vikky> oh
[16:31] <shawnbon206> ok now i need help debugging this mediawiki extension. anyone real good with php?
[16:31] <Vikky> one last question
[16:31] <Vikky> no, sadly not
[16:31] <Vikky> :/
[16:31] <atouk> and just keep telling yoruself "it's not me, the linux command names are stupid and make no sense"
[16:31] <Vikky> I know photoshop, if that is for any help ;)
[16:31] <shawnbon206> ok ty Vikky
[16:31] <shawnbon206> i will keep that in mind
[16:31] <Vikky> atouk; I will see you on the mental hospital, ill wear a red cap
[16:31] <Vikky> ;)
[16:32] <atouk> no need for mental hospitals. as alice said, "we're all crazy here"
[16:32] <stuartf> most of the linux command names make sense if you know where they came from
[16:32] <Vikky> yaay
[16:32] <stuartf> it's like a course in unix history
[16:33] <shawnbon206> they sure as hell make more sense than MS commands
[16:33] <atouk> so does latin, but etymology shouldn't be a reuirement for programming
[16:33] <shawnbon206> ever tried to use diskpart?
[16:33] <rela> shawnbon206: untrue
[16:33] <rela> see powershell
[16:33] <shawnbon206> no thanks
[16:34] <rela> no problem. but then try to avoid this topic
[16:34] <shawnbon206> every windows command i have to learn reduces my quality of life
[16:34] <shawnbon206> its just my opinion
[16:34] <Vikky> is the raspberry pi very easily damaged? I tried putting in the charger on the wrong side :o
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[16:35] <shawnbon206> theyre pretty durable
[16:35] <tcz8> shawnbon206 every command i learn increase my pay check, think about it
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[16:35] <atouk> it's pretty sturdy. just don't use that cap by the power connector as a thumb rest when you plug in. it will pop right off
[16:35] <shawnbon206> just dont get conductive liquids on it or hit it with a hammer
[16:36] <shawnbon206> tcz8 i dont want to work in IT. i just want to be in control of my computing experience
[16:36] <Vikky> I'll try not to
[16:36] <Vikky> ;)
[16:38] <stuartf> that's why I got one of these: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0097NPQ8W/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[16:38] <Vikky> I have one :p it's white
[16:38] <tcz8> shawnbon206: in your case then you are right, cmd are a pain
[16:39] <shawnbon206> well i like bash and gnu utilities for the most part, even their bsd counterparts
[16:39] <shawnbon206> only re
[16:42] <Vikky> So a small question once again. Will Raspbian let me use the remaining space of my SD card for storing stuff? Instead of fooling Windows and convince only 20 mb is left
[16:42] <atouk> yes. that will happen after forst boot in raspi-config
[16:42] <atouk> expand file system
[16:43] <Vikky> ah
[16:44] <atouk> best to save questions until after you get things running, or you break it
[16:44] <Vikky> ;)
[16:44] <Vikky> true!
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[16:51] <shawnbon206> math...
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[17:04] <dougiel> Vikky, did you ever get a response for your question (and mine) about the acceleration of the gui project and where we acan look at it?
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[18:57] <dougiel> who said they looked at wayland release candidate?
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[18:59] <aZz7eCh> is this an appropriate place to seek a little help with python logic and gpio control circuit i'm stuck on ?>
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> #raspberrypi might get more replies.
[19:00] <aZz7eCh> thanks
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[20:50] <tcz8> Here's a quicky: Is Midnight Commander the most recomended terminal file commader or is there anything better?
[20:50] <tcz8> I mean file manager hehe
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[20:51] <garyserj> If I wanted to use my raspberry pi as a firewall, what are my options? (given the one network interface).
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[20:54] <tcz8> iptables with a wizard
[20:54] <tcz8> you should allready have iptables on board by default
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[20:57] <garyserj> tcz8: the point is the raspberry pi only has one network interface
[20:57] <stuartf> I think you'd have to get some kind of usb nic
[20:58] <stuartf> I've heard the pi can be a bit finicky about usb devices though
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[21:31] <scottymuse> Depending how cool of a router you got you can configure all traffic to make a stop at your pi before moving along.
[21:31] <Odie_> with proper gear, it should wokr
[21:32] <scottymuse> Or if you got a cheap router run ettercap from your pi to trick your router to sending all packets through your pi. ;)
[21:32] <Odie_> 801.1q
[21:32] <Odie_> vlan taggin
[21:32] <Odie_> tagging
[21:32] <Odie_> (= requiers support from the switch that you connect the pi to.)
[21:33] <Odie_> I haven't verified if raspbery supports 801.1q, but I think I read from somewhere that it should work
[21:33] <Odie_> then you can have two separate virtual networks on same interface
[21:33] <Odie_> but the downside is that rare routers support .1q
[21:34] <Odie_> so you need to get a specific one that does. Those are not that expensive anymore, but might stop you if you dont have one already
[21:34] * scottymuse doesn't suggest you run ettercap anywhere but a network that you control and depend on. I seriously will mess things up!
[21:34] <scottymuse> s/I/It
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[23:22] <shawnbon206> when doing backups, from a sdcard reader, should the partitions be unmounted before I dd from the device?
[23:22] <shawnbon206> or mounted read only?
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[23:24] <plugwash> ideally they should be unmounted
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[23:26] <shawnbon206> dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb’: No medium found
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[23:31] <shawnbon206> i put it in fstab that those UUID's would always be ro. that way i can only use the sdcard for archival uses unless I manually remoute rw
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