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[0:20] <svetter> archive.raspbian.org unreachable from Comcast (US ISP) through Cogent over ipv6: https://gist.github.com/simonvetter/c7b8479ac6ce0c4a7089
[0:21] <svetter> s/cogent/level3
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[0:29] <plugwash> svetter, hmm
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[0:29] <plugwash> svetter, let me try a trace in the opposite direction
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[0:32] <plugwash> svetter, tracing the other way and doing some test traces it looks like the problem may well be in comcast's network
[0:33] * gnarface is completely unsurprised by that
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[0:35] <plugwash> svetter, what do you get if you try "traceroute6 man11.ip6.tinet.net" ?
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[0:56] <eggy> for netinstall, quickest way to get the updated kernel is to install rpi-update?
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[1:23] <shiftplusone> eggy, only if you want the latest foundation kernel
[1:23] <eggy> ok
[1:23] <shiftplusone> if you just want the foundation kernel, the raspberrypi-bootloader package will give you that
[1:24] <shiftplusone> and if you want the raspbian kernel, the instructions are in the netinstall readme
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[1:30] <eggy> does that also include /lib/modules?
[1:31] <eggy> the bootloader package
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[1:31] <shiftplusone> it should
[1:31] <shiftplusone> it might be one of the libraspberrypi packages, but I don't think so.
[1:32] <eggy> don't think so, it should hopefully be included with the kernel image..
[1:32] <eggy> need the ipv6 module
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[1:34] <svetter> plugwash: give me a sec, not really on the computer atm
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[1:35] <plugwash> svetter, also what's your ipv6 address?
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[1:37] <svetter> seems like it was transient
[1:37] <svetter> i can reach it now
[1:38] <svetter> i can reach man11.ip6.tinet.net as well just fine
[1:39] <svetter> seems like it is flapping a bit. consider maybe adding another ipv6 mirror for archive.raspbian.org?
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[4:47] <shawnbon206> hello, i am looking for these on armhf: https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ocaml-native-compilers
[4:47] <shawnbon206> but i noticed they arent available on even debian's armhf arch
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[4:47] <shawnbon206> so doesnt that mean they wont compile on armhf?
[4:48] <shawnbon206> that cant be true because texcv needs that compiler to compile, and texcv Is available on armhf
[4:48] <shiftplusone> You're looking at squeeze (old)
[4:49] <shawnbon206> well its not on raspbian
[4:49] <shiftplusone> it's on wheezy, but for armel
[4:49] <shiftplusone> and in sid for armhf
[4:49] <shawnbon206> oh ok
[4:49] <shawnbon206> but not on raspbian
[4:49] <shiftplusone> no idea if it's in raspbian sid, but take a look
[4:49] <shawnbon206> how?
[4:49] <shawnbon206> i have no idea how to search raspbians repo
[4:50] <shawnbon206> debian at least has a webpage for it
[4:51] <shawnbon206> other than apt-cache
[4:51] <shiftplusone> I don't know what the right way is
[4:51] <shawnbon206> but that doesnt help me search jessie or sid unless i mess with my sources.list
[4:52] <shiftplusone> oh, whoops.... my derpy brain mixed up jessie with sid
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[4:52] <shiftplusone> but yeah, there's armhf support for both
[4:53] <shiftplusone> the way I would do it, is check archive.raspbian.org manually, but that's probably stupid
[4:53] <shawnbon206> yeah i saw that. my derpy brain was looking at the release before they started support for armhf
[4:53] <shawnbon206> :D
[4:53] <shiftplusone> http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/o/ocaml/ocaml-native-compilers_4.01.0-3%2brpi1_armhf.deb
[4:54] <shiftplusone> (don't just install that, obviously)
[4:54] <shawnbon206> thats weird
[4:54] <shawnbon206> my sources are wrong?
[4:54] <shiftplusone> no
[4:54] <shiftplusone> I just think that's for jessie
[4:55] <shawnbon206> ok i will backport it
[4:55] <shiftplusone> it's the same version that debian jessie has anywway
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[4:59] <shawnbon206> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#How_do_I_backport_a_sid_package_to_testing_or_stable.3F
[4:59] <shawnbon206> wonder if this will work for from testing to stable
[4:59] <shawnbon206> thise 4 steps
[4:59] <shawnbon206> those*
[5:00] <shiftplusone> I've used this successfully before... https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
[5:03] <shawnbon206> backports from sid to jessie is so much simpler
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[6:57] <jimmyhoughjr> any one out there?
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[14:56] <HD|Laptop> hi all
[14:57] <HD|Laptop> i run a model b raspberry with latest raspbian
[14:57] <HD|Laptop> managed to install chromium, run startx & and then DISPLAY=:0 chromium & to launch a chrome window
[14:57] <HD|Laptop> however it is not fullscreen and I only have a mouse but not a keyboard (and no way to get/install one)
[14:58] <HD|Laptop> so how do I get the chrome window fullscreen, get rid of that DISPLAY=... stuff and especially get a virtual keyboard running, without installing a full blown desktop environment?
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[17:39] <eggy> not sure who is responsible for the rpi-update package, but they might wish to add curl as a dependency
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[17:43] <costel> hello
[17:43] <costel> what is best mirror for raspbian (net installer)
[17:43] <costel> ?
[17:44] <eggy> mirrordirector.raspbian.org most likely -- as it'll automatically find the best mirror for your location.
[17:46] <costel> all mirror contains same source?
[17:47] <costel> Thank you!
[17:47] <hifi> eggy: foundation afaik
[17:49] <eggy> just passing along the dependency suggestion.. not sure whom else or where else to report it to.
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[17:56] <eggy> created an issue on the github for the rpi-updte script, hopefully that is the best place :-)
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[18:01] <shiftplusone> hexxeh is the one in charge of rpi-update, but github is the way to do it
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[18:20] <Stanto> Has anyone tried using x11vnc to start when their pi boots ?
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[20:45] <kallisti5> ....
[20:45] <kallisti5> where is the default user / password?
[20:45] <kallisti5> Wayyyyy too hard to find
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[20:47] <shiftplusone> on the download page
[20:47] <shiftplusone> pi:raspberry
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[20:50] <kallisti5> shiftplusone: thanks, using a 3rd party image and it wasn't obvious. That worked
[20:50] <shiftplusone> np
[20:50] <shiftplusone> what image?
[20:52] <kallisti5> OctoPi
[20:52] <shiftplusone> ah
[20:52] <kallisti5> OctoPrint server for 3d printers
[20:52] <kallisti5> yeah, need to configure wifi :P
[20:52] <kallisti5> thanks :-)
[20:56] <Stanto> I'm running the raspbian image headless and vnc connecting to it, but the display's low resolution; how can I force it to say, be 1024x768 ?
[20:56] <shiftplusone> x11vnc or vncserver?
[20:57] <Stanto> x11vnc
[20:58] <shiftplusone> since you're running headless, it might make more sense to use vncserver
[20:58] <Stanto> Wouldn't using vncserver mean that the session closes when I close the vnc session ?
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[20:59] <Stanto> *vnc client
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[21:00] <shiftplusone> I'd hope that's configurable, but I'll check.
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[21:03] <shiftplusone> nope, it's all still there
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[21:04] <Stanto> My experience of the defaults in the past, were that it doesn't retain the session.
[21:05] <shiftplusone> I don't remember if I configure it in any special way, but worst case scenario is that you'll have to pass some flag when launching it.
[21:06] <Stanto> I'll have a look.
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> (using ightvncserver)
[21:07] <shiftplusone> *tightvncserver
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[21:50] <Stanto> shiftplusone Do you have your vncserver starting automatically on boot ?
[21:51] <shiftplusone> Nuh, I don't need that, but there's nothing hard about that
[21:52] <Stanto> The problem I have, is that I create the init.d script, but it doesn't execute on startup and I have to do it manually
[21:53] <shiftplusone> init.d scripts need to be set up right. Just add "su pi -c vncserver" in /etc/rc.local, just before exit 0.
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[21:56] <Stanto> ugh
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[21:58] <shiftplusone> ugh?
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[22:09] <Stanto> init.d script works.
[22:09] <Stanto> :D
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[22:11] <Stanto> though.. it appears to be running a blank white x screen Q_Q
[22:11] <Stanto> fml
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[22:14] <shiftplusone> pastebin your init.d script
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[22:30] <shawnbon206> ok
[22:31] <shawnbon206> gonna reinstall this time with jessie
[22:33] <Stanto> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/e9Gncv8k
[22:33] <shiftplusone> you're running it as root, for starters.
[22:35] * Stanto shrugs
[22:35] <Stanto> I can't be bothered with it anymore, I've been fucking about with linux and vnc all day and getting nowhere, fuck it for now. It can die in a fire.
[22:39] <atouk> Stanto: family friendly channel......
[22:39] <Stanto> atouk: you should hear some of the families around where I used to live.
[22:40] * Stanto notes your comment all the same.
[22:40] <atouk> true, not all families are created equal. i'll let you have most of mine for a really good price
[22:41] <plugwash> heh
[22:41] * plugwash wonders if atouk is confusing this channel with #raspberrypi
[22:41] <atouk> thought both had mostly the same rules
[22:43] <Stanto> eww, they have their rules in a google doc
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[22:44] <plugwash> Not really, over in #raspberrypi they are really uptight about swearing, whereas I run this place and I don't really give a fuck if people swear or not
[22:44] <atouk> well, then...
[22:46] <Stanto> On a different topic.. does anyone know if support for the wolfson audio card will be rolled into the raspbian kernel
[22:46] <plugwash> dunno, apparently the audio stuff is a bit of a mess
[22:47] <plugwash> AIUI the problem is if you enable the drivers for it (and some other audio cards have similar issues) they start probing to see if they can find the card
[22:47] <plugwash> which can cause problems for people using the GPIO for other stuff
[22:47] <plugwash> and i'm not sure if their code is compatible with current kernels either
[22:49] <Stanto> afaik some of it is just loadable modules but they did something not so nice in the kernel
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[23:02] <shawnbon206> darn it
[23:02] <shawnbon206> hifi
[23:02] <shawnbon206> :D
[23:02] <shawnbon206> hi
[23:02] <shawnbon206> i put release=raspbian in the text file, but the ssh password is not raspbian
[23:03] <shiftplusone> црн кудуфыу,
[23:03] <shiftplusone> whoops
[23:03] <shiftplusone> why release?
[23:03] <shawnbon206> er
[23:03] <shiftplusone> release should be jessie for you
[23:03] <shawnbon206> release=jessie
[23:03] <shawnbon206> thats what i put
[23:03] <shawnbon206> sorry i misspoke
[23:03] <shawnbon206> thats the only line in the configuration file
[23:03] <shawnbon206> the installer worked on wheezy 100% of the time for me
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[23:04] <shawnbon206> without changing anything
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[23:04] <shiftplusone> but you don't have rootpw=somethingelse, right?
[23:05] <shiftplusone> you're trying to log in as root?
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[23:09] <shawnbon206> i didnt use that arg because i was expecting it to stay default
[23:09] <shawnbon206> and if it did i would just issue passwd command later
[23:09] <shiftplusone> just changing release wouldn't affect the password in any way, it just changes the bootstrap command and sources.list. So that can't be the issue.
[23:09] <shawnbon206> so, no, no rootpw=blahblah
[23:10] <shiftplusone> I just wanted to clear it up because of the way you originally asked the question.
[23:10] <shawnbon206> hold on i will go get the sdcard
[23:10] <shawnbon206> then i can paste the config
[23:10] <shiftplusone> nuh, I got it, just release=jessie, it's fine.
[23:11] <shawnbon206> well when i "ping pi" its at the same ip it was at before i reinstalled
[23:11] <shiftplusone> shouldn't be a problem
[23:12] <shawnbon206> and "ssh root@pi" doesnt login with pw raspbian or even the pw i had as root before
[23:12] <shawnbon206> but the sshd responds
[23:13] <shiftplusone> does it say "Permission denied, please try again." ?
[23:13] <shawnbon206> yes, exactly
[23:13] <atouk> try pi@pi pw :raspbian
[23:14] <shiftplusone> the netinstall doesn't make the pi user
[23:14] <atouk> ok, netinstall. i'll shut up now
[23:14] <shawnbon206> oh
[23:14] <shiftplusone> oh?
[23:15] <shiftplusone> oh good or oh bad?
[23:15] <shawnbon206> oh i already booted it back up again
[23:15] <shawnbon206> bad
[23:15] <shawnbon206> :D
[23:15] <plugwash> I guess you can't get a screen connected?
[23:15] <shiftplusone> I am thinking mayhaps something went wrong during the install
[23:16] <shawnbon206> maybe. i'll reinstall with default settings and just dist-upgrade to jessie
[23:16] <shiftplusone> but.... the passwd is set before the hostname
[23:16] <shiftplusone> so if your hostname is pi, the password should be set.
[23:16] <plugwash> I wonder if the debian ssh maintainers changed the default for permitrootlogin or so
[23:16] <shiftplusone> wouldn't be a bad move.
[23:16] <sney> nope
[23:17] <shawnbon206> i might be able to mount that partition
[23:17] <shawnbon206> the password wouldnt be stored in plaintext ?
[23:17] <shawnbon206> i couldnt chroot unto it unless i used another pi
[23:18] <shiftplusone> nope, no plaintext
[23:18] <shiftplusone> but you can chroot with qemu-user. If you haven't done it before, it might be too fiddly and not worth the effort.
[23:18] <plugwash> It's not too bad at least if the host box is debian
[23:19] <plugwash> install qemu-user-staging and binfmt_support, copy /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static to the same place inside the chroot and chroot in as normal
[23:19] <shawnbon206> i will try it just for s*** and giggles
[23:19] <shiftplusone> speaking of which.... I should check if the raspbian kernel still craps out during install.
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[23:19] <shawnbon206> maybe i'll try the chroot some other time when i'm not in the middle of fixing other thingds
[23:21] <atouk> plaintext passwords are for people like target and aol
[23:23] <shiftplusone> my computer is making noises at me and I don't know why O_o
[23:23] <shiftplusone> ah, it's pidgin.
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[23:47] <shawnbon206> mirror=http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/
[23:47] <shawnbon206> thats one of the current defaults
[23:47] <shawnbon206> that cant be why, right? because its only a mirror
[23:47] <shawnbon206> i know that mirror doesnt have jessie yet
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[23:48] <shawnbon206> minz@minzbook:/media/minz/1263-DA6F$ cat installer-config.txt
[23:48] <shawnbon206> release=jessie
[23:48] <shawnbon206> gonn try once more
[23:49] <shiftplusone> Why wouldn't the mirrors have jessie?
[23:50] <shiftplusone> http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/jessie/ looks like it's there to me
[23:50] <shawnbon206> oh lol
[23:51] <shawnbon206> i looked in there last week but didnt see it.. oh well i derped that
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