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[4:29] <grodt_> sup
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[4:31] <Viderizer> hey
[4:31] <grodt> Viderizer, what do you use rpi for
[4:32] <Viderizer> linux enviroment
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[4:32] <grodt> cool
[4:32] <Viderizer> and sometimes a mumble-server
[4:32] <grodt> have you ever seen usb screens that interface over USB?
[4:33] <Viderizer> usb screens o.O
[4:33] <Viderizer> nope
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[4:37] <SwK> grodt: I've used some USB "video cards"
[4:38] <grodt> hmmm well with rpi, if I want to use a touch screen does it have to interface with USB?
[4:38] <SwK> not with the pi tho… not to sure about the drivers and the CPU load required
[4:38] <grodt> I am familiar with a differ embedded system and it required USB interface
[4:38] <SwK> I have used those
[4:38] <SwK> I have a Liliput 7" LCD w/ touch screen overlay and it uses USB
[4:38] <grodt> used what SwK
[4:38] <SwK> the touchscreen shows up as a USB mouse
[4:39] <grodt> oh neat
[4:39] <SwK> grodt: pretty much this http://www.amazon.com/LILLIPUT-INCHES-TOUCH-SCREEN-MONITOR/dp/B000AYG9F6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1405571948&sr=8-3&keywords=liliput+7%22+touch+screen
[4:39] <grodt> im hoping to find 1" - 4" screens
[4:39] <SwK> thats not the exact model I have tho
[4:39] <grodt> checkign it out
[4:39] <grodt> oh gotcha
[4:41] <SwK> works great with the RPi… the only thing I had to do was the X axis was reversed in X… so I had to screw around with the x configs to get it working right… and thats just something you have to do sometimes with touch screens
[4:43] <grodt> hmm im looking for ones that are more raw or just the screen, not the bezel part and all
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[4:44] <SwK> checkout what adafruit has
[4:45] <SwK> grodt: http://www.adafruit.com/category/63 they have a ton of cool hacker/maker friendly bits
[4:46] <grodt> oh yea, forgot about them, thanks!
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[4:53] <grodt> SwK, http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601
[4:54] <grodt> can you help me understand how that connects to the pi
[4:54] <grodt> http://www.adafruit.com/images/970x728/1601-05.jpg
[4:54] <grodt> I see this picture
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[11:47] <hifi> diederik_: well played
[11:49] <diederik_> with issue #73 you mean?
[11:49] <hifi> yes
[11:49] <diederik_> thanks :)
[11:50] <hifi> unfortunately you need to issue a new release once upstream updates the firmware
[11:50] <diederik_> yep, no other way around it.
[11:51] <hifi> that's also a good time to add B+ to docs
[11:51] <diederik_> yep. Gonna update it now as well to refer to that issue
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[15:21] <gogogadgeto> why is "sudo gvfs-mount -s gphoto2" not working but without sudo it is working?
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[15:27] <javasavage> is raspbian jessie provide a browser with accelerated html5 video ?
[15:27] <zGrr> Good question.
[15:27] <gbaman_> the accelerated web browser already exists javasavage, http://www.raspberrypi.org/web-browser-beta/
[15:27] <gbaman_> just in beta
[15:28] <javasavage> in beta but only for whezzy, is it ?
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[15:28] <zGrr> My main problem is HTML5 Audio support.
[15:29] <zGrr> No browser, I tried has full support.
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[15:29] <zGrr> I think that chromium can be compiled with HTML5 audio.
[15:30] <javasavage> zGrr, sound does not work with the beta browser ?
[15:30] <zGrr> I didn't try the beta browser yet.
[15:31] <gbaman_> the new browser is quite impressive, although be warned it mucks up some other stuff
[15:31] <shiftplusone> that 'official' browser is close to out of beta
[15:31] <shiftplusone> I think they're ironing out a few remaining annoyances, but overall, it's pretty good. I haven't tried it myself though.
[15:31] <zGrr> I tried so called minimal kiosk browser which is supposed to support html5 audio, but that doesn't work.
[15:32] <zGrr> One of the browser has html5 audio but only ogg. No MP3 support.
[15:32] <shiftplusone> oh
[15:32] <shiftplusone> you're being a bit ambitious there
[15:33] <gbaman_> zGrr: I would say give web a go
[15:33] <shiftplusone> if you want a browser that supports all common formats, you're out of luck
[15:33] <gbaman_> it really needs a better name..
[15:33] <shiftplusone> they can't agree on 'the' format, so they all just support the thing they want to support.
[15:35] <zGrr> Is the web browser beta using omxplayer, or it has support builtin?
[15:37] <shiftplusone> it has builtint omxplayer support, from what I gather
[15:37] <zGrr> Is there any substantial progress regarding wayland support?
[15:38] * shiftplusone shrugs
[15:38] <zGrr> X is discouragingly sluggish on Pi. :)
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[15:40] <shiftplusone> Good, maybe it will die quicker
[15:40] <zGrr> It will die in slow and painful agony.
[15:42] <zGrr> It looks like there will be long process when Wayland does not work properly yet and X does not work anymore. Or it is just me being pessimistic.
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[15:42] <javasavage> ok thanks, i am going to downgrade to whezzy and looking the beta browser
[15:43] <shiftplusone> I think it will be a bit more like when x64 became popular
[15:43] <shiftplusone> you'd have to use all sorts of dirty hacks to get some things to work
[15:43] <shiftplusone> but in the end, it worked out
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[16:17] <gogogadgeto> what could be the problem if "gvfs-mount -s gphoto2" is working but not with sudo?
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[16:28] <sealibor_> some variable in your environment that is missing in root's?
[16:28] <sealibor_> gogogadgeto: try with sudo -E
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[16:34] <gogogadgeto> sealibor_, http://pastebin.com/k3tDKz6k
[16:39] <sealibor_> gogogadgeto: i get the same error when i run it with sudo -E, otherwise no output with or without sudo
[16:40] <gogogadgeto> sealibor_, without sudo I get the "Backend currently unmounting" msg only the first time I call the command
[16:40] <gogogadgeto> sealibor_, it just needs some time
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[16:51] <dragonlance> finally got internet radio on raspbian useing vlc with tunein lua files
[16:52] <dragonlance> its a shame raspberry pi isnt fast enough to strem video useing same program
[16:53] <dragonlance> anyone here from uk or are you all asleep
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[16:54] <dragonlance> this channel appears to be logged (hmm lots of empty files)
[16:55] <dragonlance> question to raspbian user why does fsck check defragmentation but not fix it
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> it's not bed time in the UK yet!
[16:56] <dragonlance> i know gordondragon
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> you geneally do not need to defrag an ext4 filesystem.
[16:56] <dragonlance> yes sometime get non contiguous file system
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> yes you do, but it's generally not an issue.
[16:57] <dragonlance> yep but fsck should fix it but cant force it to run in fixit mode
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> I don't think fsck can 'defrag' a disk.
[16:57] <dragonlance> thats what it does
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> news to me.
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> fsck fixed broken filesystems.
[16:58] <dragonlance> yep checks for non contiguous partition and reports with option to fix normally
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> File System Consistency checK
[16:59] <dragonlance> yep and fixes non contiguous which is defrag on windows
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[17:00] <gordonDrogon> I'm fairly sure you're wrong there. At least in Linux. fsck can report fragmented files, but not fix them.
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> there generally isn't a 'defrag' for unix/linux as it's not needed.
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> it's not needed because the filesystem was designed properly - unlike the feeble windows attempts.
[17:01] <dragonlance> yep it has -a -y option to auto fix if i can unmount the system which i am useing so nee to use external usb to run on file
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[17:02] <gordonDrogon> please read the manual page.
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> -y just forced a fix of the File System - it does not defrag it.
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> actually, -y forces a 'yes' reply to all the questions that make you cringe when running fsck. -f does the force.
[17:03] <dragonlance> yeah explains how to use it but doesnt work in rasbian cause i cant unmount the partition file to fix it can only check it in read only mode no fix
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> you can't unmount a partition thats in-use - which the root partition will be on the Pi (normally)
[17:03] <dragonlance> yep options given only check partition though
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> if you need to fsck the SD card, it's best to do it in another Linux PC.
[17:04] <dragonlance> yep i know thats why i cant run fsck with the option to fix becaue its already mounted and in use
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> an in-use filesystem will always look like it needs checking too - that's to be expected.
[17:05] <dragonlance> yep thats what i heard but am using a bootbeery loader it gives me the option built in
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> well go for it - but it will not defrag the filesystem.
[17:05] <dragonlance> just wanted to know why i cant execute it in raspbian directly
[17:06] <dragonlance> did do have done it works great
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> fsck works on the blocks on the physical device - the filesystem has blocks in memory that fsck doesn't know about, so the filesystem needs to be unmounted to be able to use fsck.
[17:06] <dragonlance> it fixes my non contiguous partition when allowed to add the neccessary option which raspbian doesnt give
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> I'd like to know this new magical option because in 35 years of unix/linux I've never seen it in the fsck command.
[17:08] <dragonlance> fsck with either -a for auto it runs and does whatever magic it does and when i get the report the previos file mmcblk0 something is fixed and gives me a clean report
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> clean and defragging are 2 separate things.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> fsck does not defrag a filesystem at all.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> it can repair a broken one, but it will not shuffle files about into contiguous blocks.
[17:09] <dragonlance> yep i know i used the wrong terminalogy non contiguouse is a gap in partion block or file which is corrupt or unused
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> fsck would be chkdsk in the windows world.
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> or whatever its called.
[17:10] <dragonlance> i wish it was
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> you can use Linux fsck to check/fix fat filesystems.
[17:10] <dragonlance> but once again would only check it not fix it
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> it won't defrag them though.
[17:11] <dragonlance> ok refraise how do i command run fsck to fix a fat file system wgile its mounted in raspbian
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[17:11] <dragonlance> answer you cant
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> sudo umount /boot
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> fsck -Fc /boot
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> nothing usually has files open in /boot, so it can be unmounted and checked.
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[17:13] <dragonlance> and you have tried thes command on raspberry pi useing raspbian
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> doing it now.
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/wiringPi# fsck -fC /boot
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> dosfsck 3.0.13, 30 Jun 2012, FAT32, LFN
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> Differences: (offset:original/backup)
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> 65:01/00
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> 1) Copy original to backup
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> 2) Copy backup to original
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> 3) No action
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> ? 3
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> /dev/mmcblk0p5: 14 files, 19187/120958 clusters
[17:15] <dragonlance> because the only thing i have managed to do is the touch forcefsck command
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> you may need to install dosfstools - sudo apt-get install dosfstools
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> just checked another Pi - it's clean:
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> root@dragonpi:/home/gordon/wiringPi# umount /boot
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> root@dragonpi:/home/gordon/wiringPi# fsck -fC /boot
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> dosfsck 3.0.13, 30 Jun 2012, FAT32, LFN
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> /dev/mmcblk0p1: 14 files, 1484/7161 clusters
[17:17] <dragonlance> cheers i think thats probably the missing info i need dosfstools i would have assume it was already installed
[17:19] <dragonlance> thanks for your info gordondragon about to log out and try these commands thanks againn for your help got to get a decent manual
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[17:20] <gordonDrogon> good luck.
[17:20] <dragonlance> will be back if stuck are you uk or did i wake you up
[17:21] <dragonlance> well anyway bye for non thanks again
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> it's only 6:22pm here.
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[17:34] <dragonlance> thanks gordondragon weird those command work a treat must be the difference between loading an image through noobz or a direct one for one image file because the old way i tried works as well must be something ive not thought of
[17:35] <dragonlance> and dosfstools works still get .vat error the old way
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[17:37] <dragonlance> for a room full of 231 peepes its very quiet in here
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[17:43] <Justin____> Hello, I am having an issue when I attempt to run 'apt-get update' Here is the issue: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-multarch-support/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[17:44] <Justin____> 'multarch-support' doesnt look right, shouldn't it be 'multiarch-support'?
[17:45] <Justin____> No idea how to change that, couldnt find much on google
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[17:47] <JerseyMilker> .security
[17:47] <BullyBot> Checking for available agents. Please wait...
[17:47] <BullyBot> Four agents are currently available: Chuck Norris, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Lee, Mike Tyson
[17:47] <JerseyMilker> hmmm
[17:47] <JerseyMilker> .bruce Justin____
[17:47] <BullyBot> Bruce Lee knocks Justin____ out with a one-inch-punch, then takes a swig of WAAAAHHH-TAAAARRR to refresh himself.
[17:47] <JerseyMilker> .mike Justin____
[17:47] <BullyBot> Holyfield! Mike Tyson bites Justin____'s ear.
[17:48] <JerseyMilker> ty BullyBot
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[18:03] <Justin____> any suggestions?
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[18:06] <JerseyMilker> Sorry I wouldn't know, I am new to linux, raspbian, etc.
[18:06] <JerseyMilker> Was just testing my IRC bot on you :P
[18:06] <JerseyMilker> Looks like you don't have apt-get set up for correct repository though
[18:07] <JerseyMilker> Are you doing "apt-get -m update http://repolink"
[18:07] <JerseyMilker> With the -m ?
[18:08] <JerseyMilker> That's all I got, sorry if I am misunderstanding
[18:08] <gbaman_> Justin____: Is this a foundation image?
[18:08] <gbaman_> that you have downloaded and not touched anything in /etc/apt?
[18:09] <gbaman_> or have you been mucking around in there with /etc/apt/sources.list and stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[18:22] <Justin____> the sources.list file is how it should be, checked the contents against the raspbian site.
[18:22] <Justin____> and I have not touched sources.list.d
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[18:24] <Justin____> running rpi-update now, tried everything else i could find that relates
[18:27] <Justin____> Jersey, I will try that next. thanks for the suggestion
[18:28] <JerseyMilker> Yep hope you figure it out
[18:29] <Justin____> sudo apt-get -m update http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/Release E: The update command takes no arguments
[18:30] <ShorTie> apt-get --help, This APT has Super Cow Powers.
[18:30] * ShorTie snickers
[18:30] <Justin____> following Jersey's suggestion
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[18:44] <stuartf> ShorTie: try `apt-get moo`
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[18:47] <Justin____> I really have no idea what to do. Has anyone heard of multarch-support?
[18:47] <Justin____> or is that some spelling mistake in some system file that needs be corrected?
[18:48] <gbaman_> in my /etc/apt/sources.list file I have deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[18:49] <gbaman_> now it isn't a normal pi, but should be the same as the foundation images, it the same as your Justin____?
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[18:50] <Justin____> Yes it is
[18:51] <gbaman_> certain?
[18:51] <gbaman_> exactly?
[18:52] <Justin____> just copied/pasted that and overwrote what was in there
[18:52] <Justin____> same deal
[18:52] <gbaman_> I just ran an apt-get update, no issues
[18:52] <gbaman_> so it isn't on the servers end
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[18:55] <gbaman_> Justin____: check this, yours all the same? http://pastebin.com/UkgWH2wU
[18:55] <gbaman_> am not certain about wolfram one, would of thought it would have a source in it, which weirdly mine didn;t
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[19:09] <Justin____> the last two files do not exist
[19:10] <Justin____> sorry for the delay
[19:19] <Justin____> assuming they are related to packages you have installed
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[19:29] <Justin____> I am 90% sure the issue is that misspelled package name. is there any way to manually modifiy the list of installed packages?
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[19:46] <Justin____> any other suggestions or should this be wiped?
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[19:48] <ShorTie> that would most likely be best, if everything in those 3 files is ok
[19:48] <ShorTie> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[19:49] <ShorTie> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main
[19:49] <ShorTie> deb http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy rpi
[19:50] <Justin____> before that is done, is multarch-support the problem?
[19:50] <Justin____> have you ever seen that?
[19:50] <ShorTie> me not seen that, but that don't mean much, lol.
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[19:51] <Justin____> is there any way to purge the apt list of installed packages, the multarch-support is a mistake, that package does not exist
[19:52] <Justin____> it is multiarch-support
[19:52] <Justin____> already tried apt-get clean and autoclean
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[19:54] <ShorTie> check the Super Cow Powers, autoremove - Remove automatically all unused packages.
[19:56] <Justin____> nothing
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[19:59] <ShorTie> oh, oops, sorry, installed, apt-get update,upgrade,dist-upgrade is about it i think
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