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IRC Log for 2014-07-18

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[2:49] <Viderizer> a
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[8:00] <wulong__> hello. my raspbian defaut username is pi . I want change username "pi" to "dy". I use root login execute command "usermod -l dy -d /home/dy -m pi". Then i can see username "dy" instead of "pi". But the "/home/pi" directory are still there, i hope it can become "/home/dy". Anyone can give me some suggession?
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[8:04] <Viderizer> wulong__
[8:04] <Viderizer> type this: "usermod -m -d /home/dy dy"
[8:04] <Viderizer> and then type this "rm -r /home/pi"
[8:04] <Odie__> that deletes your files
[8:05] <Viderizer> -m -d copies them from pi to dy
[8:05] <Odie__> what you effectively are asking is; create new account and delete the old one
[8:05] <Mikaela> Viderizer is right.
[8:05] <Odie__> you can also just disable the account but leave files there
[8:06] <wulong__> @Viderizer: ok. i will try .Thanks all of you.
[8:06] <Odie__> so then you can use rmdir /home/pi
[8:06] <Mikaela> And what I did long time ago was wrong, I ran vipw, vigr, visudo and was there something else too, moved the home directory and made it symlink to the new home irectory.
[8:06] <Odie__> instead of rm -rf /home/pi
[8:07] <Odie__> rmdir will fail if everything was not moved where as rm -rf deletes everything without asking anything
[8:08] <Viderizer> Odie__: -m -d doesn't move, it copies
[8:08] <Odie__> ah, man page lies then
[8:08] <Viderizer> wat
[8:08] <Odie__> Move the content of the user's home directory to the new location.
[8:08] <Viderizer> oh well
[8:08] <Odie__> not first time
[8:08] <Viderizer> I guess I'm wrong then :(
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[8:13] <wulong__> ok
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[13:59] <MaX> hello people
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[14:01] <Guest45932> someone can helpme with this issue, please?
[14:01] <Guest45932> i'm here to ask some things, i'm running a raspbian on a raspberry pi and i'm having some issues with "os" that corrupt when i reboot the equipment
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> the usual problems that look like that are either bad power supply or cheap//counterfeit SD card.
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[14:06] <gordonDrogon> additionally, make sure you're raspbian is up to date - apt-get update & upgrade.
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[14:23] <Guest45932> i'm using the original power raspberry pi psu and kingston sd card.
[14:24] <Guest45932> there are some sd card you recommend?
[14:24] <Guest45932> but i use usb pendrive to run the system and the sd card only to boot the OS
[14:25] <Guest45932> lately i installed only in sd card and the OS was slow and corrupt all the time
[14:26] <shiftplusone> Guest45932, where are you located?
[14:26] <shiftplusone> Guest45932, it's probably just a bad contact with the card. Is it a stiff card or a little bendy?
[14:28] <Guest45932> i'm from Brazil
[14:28] <Guest45932> its stiff
[14:29] <Guest45932> i always have problems with OS corrupted in my raspberry pi running raspbian
[14:29] <Guest45932> "fsck died with exit status 4"
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> if you have a multimeter, check the voltage between the TP1 and TP2 points.
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> and what's the output of uname -a look like?
[14:30] <shiftplusone> Guest45932, will you be around in 10 minutes?
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> 3.12.22+ #691
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> is the currnt kernel version.
[14:31] <shiftplusone> output of vcgencmd version would help too
[14:31] <Guest45932> i'll be here all day, and probably im going to enter more frequently here too
[14:32] <Guest45932> i'll check, wait please
[14:32] <shiftplusone> okay, cool. I'll see if someone from the foundation could take a look at it if you'd be willing to send in your card.
[14:32] <Guest45932> my uname -a: 3.6.11+
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[14:33] <gordonDrogon> ok - first thing to do is to get up to date with everything.
[14:33] <gbaman> Guest45932: that one is a little old :)
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[14:33] <Guest45932> maybe my problem is related with old version of my OS?
[14:33] <gordonDrogon> there were some issue early on.
[14:34] <gordonDrogon> didn't affect everyone though.
[14:34] <gbaman> you might want to grab the updated version from here - http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[14:34] <gbaman> how big is your SD card?
[14:34] <gbaman> 4gb? 8gb?
[14:34] <Guest45932> shiftplusone: you said to send my sd card to you to check?
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> Guest45932, well, that kernel is ancient
[14:34] <Guest45932> my sd card have 8gb and my pendrive have 16gb
[14:34] <shiftplusone> there are LOTS of fixes in the recent firmware and kernel
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> sudo apt-get update
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:35] <gbaman> might just be easier to reflash the card?
[14:35] <Guest45932> right
[14:35] <shiftplusone> best to install a clean raspbian image, since there's a chance of things going wrong
[14:35] <gbaman> NOOBS is rather good
[14:35] <gbaman> especially for a beginner
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> gbaman, I suspect that if he's managed to put the OS on a USB drive, then he's no a typical beginner...
[14:36] <Guest45932> in this case i'll reinstall my OS, but in others equipments i'll only able to update and upgrade
[14:36] <gordonDrogon> I'd try the update/upgrade route first.
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[14:36] <gordonDrogon> depends of your internet bandwidth allowance (if you have one), etc.
[14:37] <gbaman> yeah, if you have the bandwidth, grab a new Raspbian OS image, that way if you have more issues, can easily reflash it
[14:37] <MaX-BR> i managed to run my raspbian on a usb drive, and use my sd card only to boot the raspberry pi
[14:37] <gbaman> this one --> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[14:37] <MaX-BR> but the OS runs totally on my USB drive
[14:38] <gbaman> anyways, brb
[14:38] <MaX-BR> right
[14:38] <MaX-BR> i'll do this and after 13:00 here, i'm going to reinstall and update my equipments
[14:39] <MaX-BR> now its 11:38 here
[14:39] <MaX-BR> and i'm going to have lunch
[14:39] <MaX-BR> someone here using a raspberry running on an USB drive?
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> 15:40 here and I'm going bac kto bed.
[14:40] <MaX-BR> all right, i'll check all this situations here and told you what happens
[14:40] <MaX-BR> thanks a lot for your help
[14:40] <MaX-BR> and other guys here
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[14:41] <MaX-BR> but i'll be back in one hour
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[15:10] <dankeder> hi
[15:11] <dankeder> is it possible to downgrade the raspberrypi-bootloader package to an older version?
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[15:13] <dankeder> currently i have version 1.20140618-1 and i need the previous one
[15:17] <dankeder> i believe it's 1.20140107-1
[15:19] <gbaman> dankeder: why do you need to downgrade?
[15:22] <dankeder> i've hit a kernel regression
[15:22] <dankeder> this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62781
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[15:26] <dankeder> i found http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/raspberrypi-firmware/
[15:26] <dankeder> i will try installing it manually using dpkg
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[17:41] <Viderizer> welp
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[17:42] <Viderizer> my raspbian is lagging like crazy over ssh
[17:42] <Viderizer> in a local network
[17:42] <Viderizer> htop shows cpu around 5~15%
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[17:56] <Viderizer> hmm, could it be..
[17:56] <jwhitmore> hello all, can anybody explain how to get the hwclock init script working. According to the info i should find it should just work but it certainly don't. I should explain I've uninstalled fake-hwclock and have an RTC connected to the GPIO header. The RTC is working and keeps good time but cant' get the system to auto set system time from RTC on bootup. If I manually set it using "hwclock -s" it works but would like
[17:56] <jwhitmore> it to automatically do that.
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> is it i2c? if so, are the i2c drivers being loaded first?
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> then the kernel need to be told it has an RTC
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[17:57] <gordonDrogon> then you ca nrun hwclock..
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[17:57] <jwhitmore> I can already run hwclock
[17:58] <jwhitmore> it just won't sync using the hwclock init script
[17:58] <jwhitmore> it's an SPI
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> never used an spi hwclock on the Pi.
[17:58] <jwhitmore> driver in kernel. Setting, reading updating the system time from RTC all work manually. I just don't want to have to do it manually every time the RPi bbots
[17:59] <jwhitmore> boots
[17:59] <jwhitmore> So my problem is really with that init script. Maybe I should learn Bash scripting ;-)
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> the hwclock nornally runs very early in the boot sequence - if the spi & rtc kernel modules aren't loaded by then, it might not be set.
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> are there no manuals/docs that came with the RTC you have?
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[18:00] <jwhitmore> I set the init script to run on run level 3. Maybe I could move it later level
[18:01] <jwhitmore> The RTC is working
[18:01] <jwhitmore> the kernel is working
[18:01] <jwhitmore> I'm not sure about the timing as there's no output from the hwclock init script in the log files in /var/log
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> the hwclock normally runs in bring-up level.
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> level S
[18:02] <jwhitmore> level S? I thought the levels were 1-5
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> S is single user - also startup.
[18:03] <jwhitmore> so my running the init script in run level 3 should be good. Actually when I run it after I've logged in with "sudo /etc/init.d/hwclock start" it don't work either so not sure that it's a timing issue
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> I've only ever used an I2C RTC, and for that, the kernel needs the I2C driver loading then told there is an RTC on the I2C bus.
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> then you can run hwclock.
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[18:05] <gordonDrogon> I'm surprised the place you got it didn't give you more details/instructions on installing it though.
[18:05] <jwhitmore> I can run hwclock manually that's not the issue. but like I say manually setting the system time on every boot up defeats the purpose of having a RTC at all
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[18:05] <gordonDrogon> stick the command in /etc/rc.local
[18:06] <gordonDrogon> which is run right at the end of the boot sequence.
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[18:06] <gordonDrogon> it's not ideal, but might stolve the issue.
[18:06] <jwhitmore> but if the init script don't do anything when I'm logged in now I can't see it working at an earlier time
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[18:10] <Jusii> pastebin the script
[18:11] <Jusii> there's something wrong with the script if it doesn't work but you can manually run something to make it work
[18:11] <Jusii> you're close
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[18:12] <jwhitmore> Jusii, the script is part of the raspbian distro which is why I called in here ;-) I'm rebooting the RPi again. I said I'd removed "fake-hwclock" with apt but there was still an init script being used. removed that and try again
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[18:14] <jwhitmore> Nope like you say it's strange if the manual command works but the raspbian init script don't. More coffee required
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[18:16] <Jusii> that's why I suggested to pastebin that script, you would have more eyes to pin point the fault
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[18:21] <jwhitmore> Jusii, working on it have to scp it out of the RPi to my machine
[18:23] <Viderizer> the lag vanished when I switched to my mac
[18:23] <Viderizer> what is the wizardy
[18:25] <jwhitmore> Jusii, here it is http://pastebin.com/sW4Wmwwg
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[18:30] <Jusii> jwhitmore: seems that the script has pretty good logging, what does the logs say when you run it?
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[18:35] <jwhitmore> Jusii I can't see anything in /var/log from that init scrip. I'll add a log line right at the top and that must go somewhere.
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[18:36] <Jusii> that's the way to go, or you can add echos etc.
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[18:55] <jwhitmore> Jusii: if [ -d /run/udev ] || [ -d /dev/.udev ]; then
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[18:55] <vagrantc> jwhitmore: have you edited /etc/default/hwclock ?
[18:55] <jwhitmore> vagrantc, yes
[18:56] <jwhitmore> my problem is that line in the script for /run/udev or /dev/.udev it's true so returning zero with no action.
[18:56] <jwhitmore> Have to go read up on udev
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[18:57] * vagrantc wonders what it's checking for the udev dir for...
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[18:59] <vagrantc> jwhitmore: so, you've edited /etc/default/hwclock (what did you change?), and you've messed with the boot order (is it set back properly?)
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[19:01] <jwhitmore> vagrantc, basically set HWCLOCKACCES yes and HCTOSYS_DEVICE=rtc0
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[19:01] <jwhitmore> /dev/rtc0 is there and does match the kernel setting
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[19:03] <jwhitmore> :-D
[19:03] <jwhitmore> commented out the test for udev and it works when called manually. I'll reboot
[19:03] * vagrantc doesn't understand how hwclock could even work, it runs after udev, and exits if the udev dirs are there
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[19:06] <jwhitmore> YES rebooted and it's working. I'm a complete ignoramus when it comes to udev. I'd have to re-read a book or two. But removing that test does make it all work
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[19:08] <vagrantc> aha.
[19:08] <vagrantc> there's a udev hook that should be setting the time
[19:09] <vagrantc> in /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hwclock.rules
[19:09] <jwhitmore> vagrantc, oh must look at that. So that should be setting the clocks not the init script
[19:09] <jwhitmore> oops
[19:10] <vagrantc> which calls /lib/udev/hwclock-set
[19:10] <vagrantc> the device is rtc0 ?
[19:11] <vagrantc> although /lib/udev/hwclock-set exits if systemd is running...
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[19:11] <vagrantc> this is a bit of a maze
[19:13] <vagrantc> and /lib/systemd/system/hwclockfirst.service and /lib/systemd/system/hwclock.service both point to /dev/null on my system.
[19:14] <vagrantc> whee.
[19:14] <vagrantc> jwhitmore: this on wheezy, not running systemd?
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