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[9:01] <zGrr> moin :)
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[9:09] <diederik_> Hi! I now have a serial-USB cable (adafruit) and it seems to work. But when I boot up my RPi I see the kernel msgs through the serial cable, but I see a bit/lot more on my monitor (mostly starting services). Is that normal?
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[9:12] <diederik_> Since I've never used a serial console before I don't know what to expect, hence me asking.
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[9:17] <shiftplusone> yup, it's normal
[9:18] <diederik_> cool, thanks shiftplusone
[9:18] <shiftplusone> np
[9:18] <plugwash> it's a configuration thing
[9:19] <diederik_> is it possible to redirect all stdout/stderr output to the serial console?
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[9:19] <plugwash> iirc if you specify multiple devices for the console kernel messages get sent to all of them but userland bootup messages only go to the first one
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> diederik_, you can divert messages for a particular program run, but not in-general for every program.
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> diederik_, the easiest way would be to login via the serial and just run your programs from that - assuming they're not GUI programs.
[9:20] <plugwash> diederik_, is there a console= line in your cmdline.txt ?
[9:20] <diederik_> plugwash: yes
[9:21] <diederik_> http://paste.debian.net/112877/
[9:22] <plugwash> hmm, maybe i'm misremembering and it's the last one that userland bootup messages go to
[9:22] <diederik_> gordonDrogon and shiftplusone: do you have some resources for me to dive in?
[9:23] <diederik_> I have found several 'articles' about using the RPi and serial console, but they all say the same thing and don't go any deeper
[9:23] <plugwash> diederik_, try moving console=tty1 before console=ttyAMA0,115200
[9:23] <shiftplusone> diederik_, nope, I just use it for the CM, since it has no ethernet
[9:23] <diederik_> other resources tell how 'old' systems have a serial console, but not how to configure stuff to make the most out of it
[9:24] <shiftplusone> Most out of it? You get a shell... what more do you need? =D
[9:25] <diederik_> everything I can possibly can :-P
[9:25] <diederik_> plugwash: will do. What do you expect to change?
[9:26] <plugwash> I expect that to make the userland bootup messages appear on the serial console rather than the framebuffer console
[9:27] * diederik_ is rebuilding the installer to find out
[9:27] <gordonDrogon> diederik_, what is it that you want to achieve?
[9:28] <diederik_> gordonDrogon: fix https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/issues/57 and 58
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[9:29] <diederik_> But also to get all the output on a local terminal, so I can easily see what happens or has happened
[9:29] <gordonDrogon> diederik_, so by default (Raspbian), the bootloader and kernel send messages out the serial line - change that by editing /boot/cmdline.txt. Then Raspbian starts a login process on it - as in /etc/inittab
[9:29] <diederik_> I've tried multiple times to record it with my phone, but that REALLY sucks
[9:30] <gordonDrogon> so - you want to see kernel boot messages and a login prompt, but it's not happening?
[9:30] <diederik_> I want that and that is already happening
[9:30] <gordonDrogon> ok, so you're done!
[9:31] <diederik_> But I get more output on my monitor/screen and I'd like that to have on the serial console as well
[9:31] <gordonDrogon> output from logging, or output from normal programs?
[9:31] <diederik_> For example the whole progress of the installer appears on the screen, but not on the serial console
[9:31] <gordonDrogon> ok - that's probably normal and to be expected.
[9:32] <gordonDrogon> programs output text on the terminal that they started running from.
[9:32] <diederik_> when I have logged into the system and then run a program, all output is send to the serial console (as far as I have tested it, which is not much yet)
[9:33] <gordonDrogon> do you mean logged on via the serial console/terminal?
[9:33] <diederik_> yes
[9:33] <plugwash> I got to go now but i'm pretty sure what I suggested will have solved your problem
[9:33] <gordonDrogon> ok - that's normal and to be expected too.
[9:33] <diederik_> it's rather funny, I can log onto the serial console and through ssh at the same time
[9:33] <gordonDrogon> that's also to be expected.
[9:33] <gordonDrogon> Linux is a multi-user operating system.
[9:34] <gordonDrogon> you can ssh in and login on the console and serial as many times as you like.
[9:34] <kingi_> kind of like women
[9:34] <gordonDrogon> and you knoe about the ALT+ F-keys on the console?
[9:34] <gordonDrogon> the console by default has 6 'virtual' terminals. ALT+F1 -> F6.
[9:34] <diederik_> yep, very true. But this is the first time I've actually done something like this
[9:34] <gordonDrogon> fun, isn't it?
[9:34] <gordonDrogon> :)
[9:34] <diederik_> yep, I am familiar with that
[9:35] <diederik_> bummer that I 'have' to use screen to connect to it though. I prefer tmux, but that doesn't seem to work
[9:35] <gordonDrogon> from another Linux box?
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[9:35] <gordonDrogon> I use minicom ...
[9:36] <diederik_> I am going to try that (too).
[9:36] <diederik_> 'all' the guides wrt the RPi and serial console basically say to use screen
[9:36] <gordonDrogon> it's old fashioned, but just works.
[9:36] <gordonDrogon> one program for one job and all that.
[9:37] <diederik_> would that also allow me to easily to scroll back to previous output (without having to go into screen's copy mode)?
[9:37] <gordonDrogon> minicom doesn't have scrollback, but if you run it inside an xterm (or other terminal under X) then they often have scrollback.
[9:38] <diederik_> ok thanks, will experiment with that :)
[9:38] <diederik_> Would Konsole work (KDE's terminal)?
[9:39] <gordonDrogon> probably - I am running xfce4 here.
[9:39] <diederik_> cool
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[10:10] <MrPigBearMan> diederik_, I just built/cross compiled the backend for Konsole so yeah it will build
[10:11] <diederik_> ok, thanks!
[10:13] <MrPigBearMan> could make a qml terminal with it though Yat also cross compiled
[10:17] <diederik_> changed the order of the console params in cmdline.txt and am now getting all output on the serial console.
[10:18] <diederik_> But not anymore on the screen. Will have to see whether things are still logged to file.
[10:19] <diederik_> "but userland bootup messages only go to the first one" I guess this is exactly what I'm noticing now, right?
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[10:26] <diederik_> maybe a bit more context would help:
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[10:26] <diederik_> "iirc if you specify multiple devices for the console kernel messages get sent to all of them but userland bootup messages only go to the first one"
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[10:34] <diederik_> everything still gets logged to the file, so that's good :)
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[12:24] <diederik> I tried to connect with minicom using 'minicom -b 115200 -o -D /dev/ttyUSB0' but it's not accepting any input. On the status line it says 'Offline' and also VT102 (and not VT100). What am I doing wrong?
[12:27] <ppq> permission issues maybe
[12:29] <diederik> I am in the dialout group. And now trying as root, but nothing seems to haapen :-/
[12:31] <ppq> have you tried starting minicom without any options and configuring it with ctrl+a o?
[12:31] <diederik> trying that now
[12:32] <diederik> that seems to work. thanks!
[12:33] <ppq> :)
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[15:58] <Paradisee> hello o/
[15:59] <Paradisee> how can i make my own pc like a server to make sure the raspberry pi can connect to it and be able to let me watch films on it?
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[16:59] <Boscop> i can't connect to wifi, using driver r8712u. wlan0 is up, and dhclient wlan0 returns without errors, but it doesn't connect
[17:02] <vagrantc> so no ip address?
[17:03] <vagrantc> Boscop: do you have the firmware for the wireless installed?
[17:03] <Boscop> vagrantc: isn't that the driver?
[17:03] <Boscop> lsmod shows that it's loaded
[17:04] <vagrantc> there's often also firmware in addition to the driver
[17:04] <vagrantc> dmesg | grep firmware
[17:05] <Boscop> vagrantc: yes, it says loading firmware from ...
[17:05] <Boscop> from rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin
[17:06] <vagrantc> is it associated with an AP ?
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[17:08] <Boscop> vagrantc: nope
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[17:13] <Boscop> vagrantc: what could be the reason?
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[17:17] <vagrantc> Boscop: the reasons are as limitless as stars in the sky ... wireless is troublesome. :(
[17:27] <Boscop> vagrantc: i just bought this wifi card
[17:27] <Boscop> vagrantc: what can i do?
[17:28] <vagrantc> research? wait patiently for someone who knows how to troubleshoot it better?
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[17:30] <Mikaela> I never understood how to setup wireless in /etc/network/interfaces, I suggest installing GUI and configuring it with it.
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[22:40] <MaX-BR> i am having some issues right now in a raspberry running raspbian
[22:40] <MaX-BR> the apt-get don't find any package
[22:41] <MaX-BR> apt-get update runs corretly
[22:41] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, when did this happn ?
[22:41] <MaX-BR> but if i try to do an apt-get upgrade or install some package, it dont finds anything
[22:41] <MrPigBearMan> like could you install things before ? or is this a new install
[22:41] <MaX-BR> no
[22:42] <MaX-BR> i installed things before
[22:42] <MaX-BR> corretly
[22:42] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, any extra ppa's installed ?
[22:42] <MaX-BR> ppas?
[22:42] <MrPigBearMan> or apt-pining ?
[22:42] <MaX-BR> i have 5 raspberry pi's running with the same configuration
[22:43] <MaX-BR> the another ones are working perfectly
[22:43] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, post the output of cat /etc/apt/source.list
[22:43] <MaX-BR> but this one is with this issues
[22:43] <MaX-BR> #deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[22:43] <MaX-BR> deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
[22:43] <MaX-BR> deb-src http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
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[22:44] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, looks good what happenes if you run . apt-get --fix-missing update
[22:44] <MaX-BR> wait please
[22:47] <MaX-BR> it runs perfectly
[22:47] <MrPigBearMan> try to install some things small like figlet or cowsay
[22:48] <MaX-BR> when i run apt-get upgrade
[22:48] <MaX-BR> 0 packages for all
[22:48] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, and apt-get install figlet
[22:48] <MaX-BR> impossible to find a package
[22:48] <MaX-BR> E:
[22:48] <MaX-BR> E: impossible to find a package cowsay
[22:49] <MaX-BR> E: impossible to find a package figlet
[22:49] <MrPigBearMan> run ping 8.8.8.8
[22:49] <MrPigBearMan> then press ctrl+c are you dropping packets ?
[22:49] <MaX-BR> it responds normaly
[22:49] <MaX-BR> 0% loss
[22:49] <MrPigBearMan> ok
[22:50] <MrPigBearMan> apt-get clean ; apt-get update ; apt-cache search cowsay
[22:50] <MaX-BR> for example now
[22:50] <plugwash> <diederik_> "but userland bootup messages only go to the first one" I guess this is exactly what I'm noticing now, right? <-- yeah other than the fact I screwed up that statement slightly
[22:50] <MaX-BR> i tried to restart the mysql service
[22:51] <MaX-BR> it stops normaly but doesn't start again
[22:51] <MaX-BR> it failed
[22:51] <plugwash> it's the LAST one that the "userland bootup messages" (specifically stuff sent to /dev/console) goes to
[22:51] <MaX-BR> a month ago, i had some issues like this
[22:51] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, sudo service mysql restart what happens ?
[22:51] <MaX-BR> when i reboot the system, it corrupts
[22:51] <MaX-BR> and now, i am afraid to reboot again
[22:51] <MrPigBearMan> lol
[22:52] <MaX-BR> but i need to identify the issue
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[22:52] <diederik> you're right. Luckily I interpreted it correctly
[22:52] <MaX-BR> becausa i always have this isssue
[22:52] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR what happened when you ran apt-get clean ; apt-get update ; apt-cache search cowsay
[22:52] <MaX-BR> before i tried to restart the mysql, it was running ok
[22:52] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, one thing at a time
[22:53] <no-ears> HI, could I please get some help with setting up Raspbery Pi's audio? speaker-test works, but otherwise I can't get any audio to play through aplay or vlc. Thanks
[22:53] <MaX-BR> ok
[22:54] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, you have tried mplayer and also omxplayer to test files ?
[22:54] <MrPigBearMan> also checked alsamixer ect
[22:54] <no-ears> omxplayer is the only one that gives an error which says "open /dev/fb0: Permission denied"
[22:55] <MrPigBearMan> try to set it so that it open on fb1 no-ears
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[22:56] <MaX-BR> segmentation fails
[22:56] <MaX-BR> i am translating, because my raspbian is in Portuguese
[22:56] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: how do I have it open on fb1? thanks!
[22:57] <MrPigBearMan> example no-ears omxplayer -o hdmi --layer 3 /home/pi/Video/SomeVideo.mp4
[22:57] <MrPigBearMan> if you are using hdmi that is
[22:57] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: I'm using the 3.5 jack
[22:57] <MrPigBearMan> I see
[22:57] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: and I've changed the setting in raspi-config
[22:58] <no-ears> audio
[22:59] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, more info plz about your changes
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[23:00] <MrPigBearMan> can you paste the output of /boot/config.txt no-ears
[23:01] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: http://pastebin.com/wWpBZ6x9
[23:02] <MaX-BR> i am running my raspbian on an usb pen drive
[23:02] <MaX-BR> and use the sd card only to boot
[23:02] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: I used amixer cset numid=3 1 to set to 3.5mm jack
[23:03] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, I am compiling things at the moment so my computer is real slow still waiting for the browser to open
[23:03] <no-ears> tnx
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[23:05] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: Is there a guide that starts at step 1 for getting RPi sound going?
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[23:08] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, arch has a good one with alsa
[23:08] <MrPigBearMan> there wiki that is
[23:09] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, I also thought that 3 was hdmi
[23:09] <MrPigBearMan> I could be wrong on that google it
[23:09] <no-ears> 0 auto 1 3.5 jack 2 HDMI
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[23:09] <MrPigBearMan> O.o
[23:10] <MrPigBearMan> no-ears, you have read this ? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi#Audio
[23:11] <no-ears> I'm using Raspbian
[23:11] <no-ears> how would it be different between the two?
[23:11] <MrPigBearMan> pacman would be apt ?
[23:13] <no-ears> I think in raspbian its all one package
[23:13] <MrPigBearMan> ok there is also this http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/audio-config.md is that what you followed ?
[23:14] <no-ears> MrPigBearMan: that's for HDMI not the jack!
[23:14] <vagrantc> "apt-get install FOO" to install package FOO
[23:14] <MrPigBearMan> hang on compile just error out
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[23:15] <MrPigBearMan> IDK I have to do something
[23:17] <MaX-BR> MrPigBearMan: and now?
[23:17] <MrPigBearMan> -I/mnt/rasp-pi-rootfs/opt/vc/include -I/mnt/rasp-pi-rootfs/opt/vc/include/interface/vcos/pthreads -I/mnt/rasp-pi-rootfs/opt/vc/include/interface/vmcs_host/linux
[23:17] <MrPigBearMan> er
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[23:18] <MaX-BR> i have another raspberry pi here that had the same issue and when i reboot the system corrupt
[23:18] <MaX-BR> fsck fails
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[23:19] <MaX-BR> ./dev/rootdev
[23:21] <MrPigBearMan> MaX-BR, IDK someone else will help you I am super busy ATM with cross compiling things
[23:22] <MaX-BR> ok
[23:22] <MaX-BR> thanks
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