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[0:27] <TheBoss> infact, it won't be possible
[0:27] <TheBoss> in qemu
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[0:34] <TheBoss> as no operating systems has been installed
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[0:48] <panosg> hello
[0:48] <plugwash> hi
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[0:49] <panosg> can you help me with a raspbian deployment regarding load balancing over multiple isps?
[0:50] <panosg> first of all im not sure that the current build has such capabilities
[0:51] <plugwash> honestly it's not something i've ever tried in practice
[0:51] <plugwash> there is a general linux tutorial out there which covers a lot of this kind of stuff called the "linux advanced routing and traffic control howto" but i'm not sure how up to date it is
[0:51] <panosg> i tried it i hacked the heck of my raspberry and i have manage to have all interfaces up
[0:51] <panosg> i have manage to setup the ap
[0:52] <panosg> and some primitive packet round robin
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[0:52] <panosg> but it brakes all the connection because its stateless
[0:52] <panosg> i have tried all 3 tuts i found on the net
[0:53] <panosg> does the arm port of debian support stateful connection balancing?
[0:53] <plugwash> dunno, afaict it would be a kernel feature not a distribution feature
[0:54] <panosg> all kernel above 2.2 have connection balancing features
[0:54] <panosg> but im not sure about arm port
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[0:54] <plugwash> I wouldn't imagine the code is arch specific but I could well imagine it being a compile time option
[0:54] <plugwash> And i've no idea if it's turned on in the raspberry pi foundation kernel (what I suspect you were running) or the raspbian debian-style kernel
[0:55] <panosg> well does it have a build log?
[0:55] <plugwash> not that i'm aware of
[0:55] <panosg> thats messy well im in a dead end here
[0:55] <plugwash> I think you should be able to get the config from /proc/config.gz though
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[0:56] <panosg> right know im taking a backup of the sd but i will look in to it
[0:56] <panosg> thanks!!!
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[1:54] <b4tm4n> what is the best branch to use for compiling your own image for a B+
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[7:19] <goranche> hi… could anyone point me to some resources that might help trying to build raspbian packages from source (I’m interested in busybox-static in particular and would like to know where to find build scripts / config files for it as it’s being built for raspbian)…
[7:24] <BManojlovic> ?
[7:25] <BManojlovic> http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/
[7:26] <BManojlovic> http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/b/busybox/
[7:26] <BManojlovic> sorry wrong dir
[7:26] <BManojlovic> that is correct one
[7:27] <goranche> that’s where the current packages are stored, yes (well, on mirrors at least :) )
[7:28] <goranche> those are built packages. I’d like to build my own package and would need the config that was used to build the “official” package
[7:29] <BManojlovic> ???
[7:30] <BManojlovic> busybox_1.22.0-8.dsc busybox_1.22.0.orig.tar.bz2
[7:30] <BManojlovic> busybox_1.22.0-8.debian.tar.xz
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[7:30] <BManojlovic> look better next time those are required files to rebuild packages
[7:30] <goranche> oh… *blush* ok, now I see :D thanks
[7:31] <BManojlovic> no prob :)
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[7:32] <BManojlovic> apt-get source should give you what you need by the way
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[7:33] <goranche> hm… never used “apt-get source”, will try, thanks (again)
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[7:33] <BManojlovic> just put source into apt.xxx
[7:33] <BManojlovic> sources.apt
[7:33] <BManojlovic> or whatever is its name
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[7:37] <BManojlovic> goranche: if you have linux machine you can try my chroot builds https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile/
[7:44] <goranche> @BManojlovic thanks I’ll take a look later today, I have a cross compile environment set up for ARM (needed it for a different board) on my ubuntu server, but if I can avoid going through the pain of adjusting it for the RPi, all the better :D
[7:45] <BManojlovic> it will set it up for you
[7:45] <BManojlovic> but it is different beast not default chroot thingy it is full rpi installation with x86 compiler inside
[7:46] <goranche> I see in the description that it needs qemu… sounds interesting, looking forward to playing around with it ;)
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[7:48] <BManojlovic> :)
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[8:35] <diederik> Oh, hi goranche :)
[8:35] <goranche> hey :D
[8:36] <goranche> who would’ve expected seeing you here ;)
[8:36] <diederik> yeah, shocking he :P
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[11:12] <diederik> when I do "modprobe -v sd_mod" I get the following error msg: "modprobe: can't load module crc_t10dif (kernel/lib/crc-t10dif.ko): unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter"
[11:13] <diederik> What could be the cause of this? It is a 'pure' raspbian kernel (Linux (none) 3.12-1-rpi #1 Debian 3.12.9-1+rpi1 (2014-05-19) armv6l GNU/Linux)
[11:20] <plugwash> a mismatch between kernel and modules seems like a likely possibility
[11:23] <BManojlovic> update system, reboot and try again
[11:23] <diederik> But they're both from the linux-image-3.12-1-rpi_3.12.9-1+rpi1_armhf package.
[11:23] <diederik> Could there still be a mismatch then?
[11:24] <BManojlovic> depmod -av
[11:24] <BManojlovic> hm that v could be too verbose
[11:26] <diederik> modprobe: module sd_mod not found in modules.dep (modules.dep is 0 bytes, but modules.dep.bin is 861 bytes)
[11:28] <BManojlovic> sure your SD is not borked?
[11:28] <diederik> when creating the installer image, I did get a warning wrt modules though. I see whether playing with that solves helps.
[11:28] <diederik> Yep, I'm sure.
[11:29] <BManojlovic> try update or reinstall of linux-image
[11:29] <BManojlovic> no clue really maybe will help
[11:29] <diederik> When I build the image with the 3.10-3 image, it works fine, but not with the 3.12-1 image
[11:30] <diederik> I'll try installing with the 3.10 kernel (which then installs the 3.12 kernel in the system) and see what modprobe sd_mod tells me then
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[12:54] <B1nny> Hello
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[12:58] <diederik> I have probably found it \o/
[13:00] <diederik> The 3.12 kernel has 2 kernel modules who's name start with crct10dif, whereas the 3.10 kernel has not
[13:01] <diederik> and crc_t10dif uses crct10dif_common
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[13:12] <diederik> What are the chances of a wheezy-backport of f2fs-tools?
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[13:23] <diederik> woohoo \o/ it is indeed fixed now :-D
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[15:19] <Paradisee> what's the mA output on GPIO for a raspberry B and B++
[15:22] <shiftplusone> 16mA per pin, 50mA total
[15:22] <Paradisee> what do you mean for total
[15:22] <shiftplusone> don't exceed that for all pins added together
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[15:23] <shiftplusone> also 16mA is maximum drive strength, not the maximum current before smoke comes out. You can draw more, but you shouldn't for a variety of reasons
[15:23] <Paradisee> if each pin has a max output of 16mA
[15:23] <Paradisee> is it able to command this: http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00DR9SE4A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[15:24] <shiftplusone> it says 5v
[15:24] <shiftplusone> pi's logic is 3.3v
[15:25] <shiftplusone> you can add mosfets or just get a board that already has mosfets and is designed for 3.3v
[15:26] <Paradisee> shiftplusone: doesn't it use 5v ?
[15:26] <shiftplusone> not for logic
[15:28] <Paradisee> which do you suggest for home automation?
[15:29] <shiftplusone> no idea
[15:30] <shiftplusone> I got some random relay board on my desk, but it doesn't seem to have any name on it to identify where it came from.
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> Just buy a relay board that explicitly says: Designed for Raspberry Pi.
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> and avoid any from Sainsmart.
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[15:33] <Paradisee> http://www.amazon.it/SunFounder-Modulo-Channels-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B00E0NTPP4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407857602&sr=1-2-fkmr0&keywords=board+rel%C3%A8+raspeberry
[15:33] <Paradisee> this is also 5v
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> 5V 2-Channel Relay interface board, and each one needs 15-20mA Driver Current
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[15:35] <gordonDrogon> Be aware that a lot of unscrupulous sellers are using the words "Raspberry Pi" as a marketing aid.
[15:36] <redcheckers> hi, i recently re-installed raspbian, and also set up sshd, without having changed any specific settings, is there anything i should have to do to make it possible to ssh into the rpi ?
[15:36] <redcheckers> (because it fails when i try to ssh pi@192.168.1.56 )
[15:36] <shiftplusone> ssh is on by default
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> redcheckers, if you re-installed then the host keys will have changed. you may need to delete the keys on the client side.
[15:36] <Paradisee> redcheckers: enable it on the router
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> but usually you get a warning when that happens.
[15:37] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, you'd normally be told that that's the.... yeah, that.
[15:37] <redcheckers> Paradisee: i have no access to the router, which could be an issue.
[15:37] <diederik> redcheckers: what error are you getting?
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> Paradisee, you're dealing with voltages that can kill you, your Pi and anyone who touches it. Why are you messing about with cheap solutions that may or may not work here? Buy something designed for the job.
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[15:38] <redcheckers> darn.. got disconnected. did the error message show ?
[15:38] <redcheckers> "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.56 port 22: Connection refused "
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[15:39] <redcheckers> I can 'ping' the rpi fine though
[15:40] <redcheckers> and ssh works from the rpi to 127.0.0.1
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> connection refused suggests sshd isn't running.
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> are you sure you'e pinging the Pi?
[15:40] <redcheckers> yes.
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> firewall?
[15:40] <redcheckers> at least, based on ifconfig , and the ip address
[15:41] <redcheckers> i don't have one yet. as far as i know. but the hotel router could be a bit weird.
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> ok - hotel - you are using wi-fi?
[15:41] <redcheckers> yes. i sure am
[15:41] <diederik> when you do 'ssh -vvv pi@192.168.1.56' you should get (a lot) more info where it fails
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> it's probable that the hotel's wi-fi is blocking connections between 2 devices. this is common when setup correctly...
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[15:42] <diederik> and when you pastebin it, others could take a look as well
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[15:43] <diederik> you could also try first with only 1 'v' (the more 'v''s the more verbose it gets)
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[15:44] <redcheckers> diederek did you see that?
[15:44] <diederik> I guess not ;-)
[15:44] <redcheckers> gordonDrogon: yes that could be possible as well, although i am not sure.
[15:44] <redcheckers> diederik: OpenSSH_6.4, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 debug2 ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.56 port 22. debug1: connect to address 192.168.1.56 port22 Connection refused ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.56 port 22: Connection refused
[15:45] <diederik> pastebin it (paste.debian.net for example) ... don't paste lots of lines in an irc channel
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[15:45] <diederik> my guess is a firewall issue
[15:45] <redcheckers> i dont have a way to paste it that i know of, I typed that by hand, but okay.
[15:46] <redcheckers> is there anything I can do to check for sure if it is a firewall issue?
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[15:46] <gordonDrogon> do you have screen/keyboard on the Pi/
[15:46] <redcheckers> yes.
[15:46] <redcheckers> i am irc from the pi
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> I'd just suggest running tcpdump on it - just to see if anything at all reaches it.
[15:47] <diederik> you could try to figure out which ports are open with nmap or nslookup for example. But I'm guessing gordonDrogon has an easier way.
[15:47] <redcheckers> installing it now.
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[15:48] <redcheckers> the hotel internet is fast at least.
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[15:48] <gordonDrogon> so something like: sudo tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp
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[15:49] <gordonDrogon> then ping it... then if you see the pings OK: sudo tcpdump -i wlan0 port 22 and see what happens when you ssh into it.
[15:49] <redcheckers> ah i was about to ask how to make it watch wlan instead
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[15:51] <gordonDrogon> any joy?
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[15:53] <redcheckers> okay, guess it must be the router.
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[15:53] <redcheckers> maybe i can try setting up a local network with a second wifi card and ssh that way
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> if your laptop has and Ethernet port you might be able to hard wire between the 2...
[15:54] <redcheckers> sadly i have a tablet instead, and it does not have ethernet
[15:55] <redcheckers> i do have 2 wifi cards though
[15:55] <efirshik> hello
[15:56] <redcheckers> well, thanks for helping me isolate the problem
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[15:57] <efirshik> please help install this https://code.google.com/p/vpnpptp/downloads/list on raspbian
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[15:58] <shiftplusone> efirshik, downloaded the sources package?
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[16:01] <efirshik> i do not know what to download
[16:01] <shiftplusone> Исходники
[16:02] <shiftplusone> vpnpptp-src-0.3.8.tar.gz
[16:02] <efirshik> a dalshe kak ego ustanovit' ?
[16:03] <shiftplusone> people won't like it if we talk Russian here.
[16:03] <shiftplusone> They'll think we're about to invade them.
[16:04] <shiftplusone> you'll need to install lazarus, which you should be able to apt-get
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[16:05] <redcheckers> say one other question, is there some easy step I am missing to change the screen resolution for the desktop?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> on the fly? tvservice should help. Otherwise, do it in config.txt
[16:07] <redcheckers> :-( darn. i kept trying to do it from the desktop. thanks a bunch
[16:07] <vascobnunes> riot: sorry, only saw your reply now
[16:07] <shiftplusone> np
[16:08] <vascobnunes> my webcam is a Creative VF0220
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[16:12] <efirshik> I downloaded vpnpptp-src-0.3.8.tar.gz and install lazarus
[16:12] <shiftplusone> extracted?
[16:13] <shiftplusone> try running that compile.sh
[16:13] <shiftplusone> I have never used or compiled the software, so I'm just guessing here
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[17:05] <newbie86_> hi the world
[17:07] <newbie86_> i have 1 "RPI b" and 1 "Grove - OLED 96x96." and i found not one tuto for install driver. who can help me
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[17:16] <redcheckers> okay great, the new screen size is so much better. so now i have another question..... :-/ , if i want to have support for a crypto algorithm that is available in ordinary kernel source, is it hard for me to remake the kernel the pi is using to include it? in this case, serpent
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[17:19] <shiftplusone> not at all
[17:19] <redcheckers> that's good news... instead of the raspberry pi kernel in apt-cache search, where would i begin to understand the process?
[17:20] <shiftplusone> elinux
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[17:21] <vagrantc> well, if you're using the kernel from raspbian.org vs. raspberrypi.org, you can just apt-get source linux* and use standard debian packaging practices
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[17:21] <vagrantc> depends on if you're more comfortable with debian packaging or "mainline" kernel builds.
[17:21] <vagrantc> although, admittedly, the debian kernel packaging has a number of surprises from your typical debian package.
[17:22] <redcheckers> well. i suppose ultimately the only additional feature i know i need or want at this point, is the crypto algorithms... i imagine they'd be available in both the debian or the other kernel
[17:22] <shiftplusone> but what kernel are you currently running?
[17:23] <shiftplusone> uname -a ?
[17:23] <redcheckers> its whatever came with raspbian, lemme uname one sec
[17:23] <redcheckers> yeah, one second
[17:23] <shiftplusone> though of course you can switch, but I don't see the value of using the raspbian kernel
[17:23] <redcheckers> 3.1.22+ #691 Preempt
[17:23] <shiftplusone> yup, that's the foundation kernel
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[17:26] <redcheckers> i missed everything after " yup. that's the foundation kernel"
[17:27] <vagrantc> only thing you missed was you coming and going :)
[17:28] <vagrantc> very confusingly, "whatever came with raspbian" depends on where you got raspbian from.
[17:28] <vagrantc> raspberrypi.org and raspbian.org have different kernels.
[17:29] <redcheckers> ah.
[17:29] <redcheckers> then i dont know where i got it from.
[17:29] <shiftplusone> vagrantc, raspbian.org will link to the raspberrypi.org kernel, unless you go for the netinstall.
[17:29] <redcheckers> i thought when i went to raspbian there was a link to some official thing
[17:29] <redcheckers> or vice versa
[17:29] <shiftplusone> redcheckers, you got it from raspberrypi.org
[17:29] <redcheckers> k.
[17:30] <shiftplusone> vagrantc, sorry, raspberrypi.org image*, not kernel.
[17:30] <vagrantc> shiftplusone: sure
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[17:31] <vagrantc> i wonder if we can't get rpi support directly into debian-installer, so that when the packages are built on raspbian, it generates an appropriate image...
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[17:32] <vagrantc> raspbian-ua-netinst is essentially it's own installer, it's not just a patched debian-installer?
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[17:33] <shiftplusone> uanetinst is it's own thing
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[17:33] <shiftplusone> there is one based on the debian installer
[17:34] <shiftplusone> but the maintainer disappeared a few years back
[17:34] * vagrantc wonders if any raspbian folks will be at debconf
[17:35] <diederik> with which version of gcc are the raspbian packages compiled?
[17:36] <shiftplusone> that would be a question for plugwash
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[17:37] <shiftplusone> actually, you should be able to get that from the binaries.
[17:37] <diederik> how?
[17:37] <shiftplusone> idn, not in front of a linux box to poke around.
[17:38] <redcheckers> so if the two images are so different, do i need to pay a lot of attention when i select a kernel source?
[17:38] <shiftplusone> not really, you can use either kernel
[17:39] <redcheckers> okay.
[17:39] <redcheckers> so basically, i need a kernel, and knowledge of what basic options are required for the pi
[17:39] <redcheckers> kernel=source*
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[17:44] <shiftplusone> nope, you can use the existing kernel's config as a base or the provided default (which is the same)
[17:46] <HoloPed> how do I setup a job that looks for files appearing in folder X and moves them to folder Y ?
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[17:47] <redcheckers> okay. so then all i need to do is find the source, and read the existing kernel, i'll check /proc
[17:47] <redcheckers> yes, i have a config.gz
[17:48] <redcheckers> alright then, ill go look for a kernel source.
[17:49] <redcheckers> wait -- do i just use a generic linux kernel source?
[17:49] <redcheckers> and then use these options, or is the raspbian kernel more finely tuned and patched than that?
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> github
[17:51] <shiftplusone> raspberrypi
[17:52] <shiftplusone> github.com/raspberrypi/linux has THE raspberry pi kernel source
[17:52] <shiftplusone> what raspbian does is taken the generic debian kernel package and a tonne of patches from the raspberrypi kernel
[17:53] <shiftplusone> so the difference is that it has whatever patches debian adds on top
[17:53] <shiftplusone> but you're at plugwash's mercy when it comes to updates and maintenance of the kernel.
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[17:54] <vagrantc> well, you can "apt-get source", tweak, and build it...
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[18:38] <kernelpanic> so, hi. quick questiion.. i have a fresh install on my raspberry pi but i cant seem to login to it
[18:38] <kernelpanic> root/root is the default login?
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[18:45] <kernelpanic> i've also tried pi/raspberry with no luck
[18:46] <kernelpanic> worked like a charm an hour ago
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[18:56] <Paradisee> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/unipi-the-universal-raspberry-pi-add-on-board
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[19:17] <Eremiell> Hi! I'm thinking about trying one of the more powerful boards recently emerging. Does anyone know, if raspbian and hexxeh kernel tool work well on RPi B+ and/or Banana Pi?
[19:20] <vagrantc> i think banana pi is armv7, so should work on genuine debian or most any distro
[19:20] <vagrantc> as with almost all the other boards
[19:21] <vagrantc> i've heard that the rpi b+ works with recent raspberrypi.org kernels, not sure about the raspbian.org kernels...
[19:21] <plugwash> B+ should be fine provided you are up to date
[19:22] <plugwash> personally i'd avoid the banana Pi, what I have seen simply does not give me confidence in their competance
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[19:28] <Eremiell> Ok, thanks! Banana Pi info is really scarce, but it's coming from China and that's how things come from there. I've seen some nice chips served that way and of course some not so nice. I guess, I'll look more into B+. I'll try to drop some info, once I'll gain some experience with one or the other.
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[20:02] <RavenII> Guys, I'm trying to get my Wifi adapter working, and usually it works just fine...but I updated to the latest Raspbian image and now it just won't work.
[20:02] <RavenII> The GUI doesn't even give it as an option int he drop down.
[20:03] <RavenII> lsusb shows it as being there. lsmod says "8192cu 551136 0"
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[20:27] <Eremiell> RavenII: sounds to me like uncommented wlan0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces and network-manager unable to reach it, but never had X on my RPi, this guess comes from my Debian experience. anyway, you're replacing the whole image everytime instead of using system tools for updating?
[20:30] <diederik> what could be the cause that eth0 is getting an IPv4 and IPv6 address, but wlan0 only IPv6?
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[20:31] <vagrantc> is it just a link-local ipv6 address, or is it actually routeable?
[20:32] <diederik> how can I see? I actually know next to nothing about IPv6
[20:32] <diederik> inet6 addr: fe80::821f:2ff:feee:157f/64 Scope:Link
[20:32] <diederik> I know the IPv4 address of my router, but have no idea of the IPv6 address
[20:33] <RavenII> Eremiell, actually no, it was so long from when I powered my Pi last that forgot the passwords/configuration so I figured I'd start with a clean slate. http://pastebin.com/mXzv4Hpd
[20:33] <RavenII> that's what my file looks like.
[20:35] <diederik> I think I found it. What I thought was a useless line in /etc/network/interfaces apparently isn't so useless after all
[20:36] <Eremiell> RavenII: check if you've ot network-manager package installed (aptitude show network-manager). if yes, than that's the problem and comment out (put #) on beginning of every line not containing "lo".
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[20:38] <Eremiell> RavenII: also I guess, you'll need a reboot or at least network-manager restart after.
[20:38] <Eremiell> RavenII: like in "sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart"
[20:38] <diederik> shouldn't iface wlan0 have manual instead of dhcp?
[20:39] <Eremiell> diederik: depends on your network. dhcp would be most common nowadays.
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[20:40] <diederik> oh ok. I thought it had to be manual when using wpa_supplicant
[20:41] <diederik> then again, the issue I had before was resolved by adding "iface default inet dhcp" to my wlan0 stanza
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[20:46] <Eremiell> diederik: manual means, you need to supply ip address, network address, broadcast address, default gateway etc. all by yourself, ie. you're keeping some kind of static network scheme. dhcp means ask router via dhcp for all that info.
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[20:51] <diederik> ok, I thought it was different when using wpa_supplicant. Unfortunately the various man pages regarding wireless are rather poor (imo) and the things I've found on the internet basically say 'copy this into that file' and it should work
[20:51] <diederik> Looks like I have some more studying/searching to do wrt wireless
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[20:52] <RavenII> Isn't it weird that it wasn't installed?
[20:53] <Eremiell> diederik: wpa_supplicant was a bit confusng to me too. probably still is. ;)
[20:55] <Eremiell> RavenII: not necesarilly. I don't have in on my RPi as I don't need it on my RPi and probably most people don't, as eth0 runs all right without it. but for GUI (network-manager-gnome) wlan control, you will need it.
[20:55] <RavenII> I see.
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[20:55] <RavenII> See that's the thing, it doesn't even work through command...
[20:55] <Eremiell> RavenII: of course, you can control wlan0 manually from console via wpa_suplicant and ifconfig.
[20:56] <diederik> My issue with the manpages is, that it doesn't really explain what each setting does and/or how one value of an option affects another. It's more of a list of the setttings and possible values.
[20:56] <diederik> I got it working on my system, but I can't explain what I need to change and why if network parameter X would change.
[20:57] <Eremiell> RavenII: try installing network-manager and network-manager-gnome (if you run GTK based DE) and comment oit everything aside loopback in network/interfaces.
[20:57] <diederik> Most ppl only care about getting it to work, but I prefer to know the details (when it comes to sth fundamental as network configuration)
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[20:59] <Eremiell> diederik: I consider it fundamental to understand how networks work (which I more or less do), but never really wanted to understand things like network manager and wpa supplicant past gettng them to work. they seem too illogical and ugly to spend my time on them.
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[21:00] <diederik> I agree with you on network manager, but afaik wpa supplicant is needed to get WPA working (when using multiple networks)
[21:01] <RavenII> Still no go...it's like the pi can't do anything with the adapter...
[21:01] <RavenII> I'm doing all of this through command line btw. I only resorted to the gui as a last effort
[21:02] <Eremiell> RavenII: you'll need to reboot the pi or at least restart the network-manager after all the changes.
[21:03] <RavenII> Yeah, I've done that. Both sudo shutdown -r now and sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:04] <Eremiell> RavenII: I don't have a machine with nm handy, but I believe, there should be /etc/init.d/network-manager or /nm or something like that.
[21:04] <RavenII> No worries
[21:04] <RavenII> I'll try that.
[21:05] <RavenII> btw diederik you're right "wpa_supplicant: wpa-roam can only be used with the "manual" inet METHOD"
[21:05] <RavenII> That's one error I get.
[21:05] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, are you around?
[21:06] <diederik> Cool! That means I'm not stupid after all LOL :-P
[21:06] <shiftplusone> b4tm4n, hiding from you since I didn't get that tutorial done and am lazy.
[21:06] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, no worries - just wanted to make sure i didn't miss it in a junk folder or something
[21:06] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, i'm sure you're busy - no rush
[21:07] <Eremiell> RavenII: for nm, you should have it commented out either way. it handles it in its own way and it needs it to be unmanaged by other tools.
[21:08] * Eremiell recognizes, keywork overloading can become troublesome even in natural language.
[21:08] <Eremiell> *keyword
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[21:18] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, i'm come quite a ways since we last spoke - coudl you help with a simple questin
[21:19] <shiftplusone> sure
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[21:20] <b4tm4n> so, i've cloned the kernel on a separate box and would now like to cross-compile
[21:21] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, how do i make sure i'm using the right compiler and how do i compile something i can easily use on the other
[21:21] <shiftplusone> do you have a cross compiling toolchain already?
[21:21] <b4tm4n> i believe so
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[21:23] <shiftplusone> what's the gcc binary filename for it
[21:23] <shiftplusone> will look like arm-linux-gnueabihf or something like that
[21:23] <b4tm4n> gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnuebihf
[21:23] <b4tm4n> gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[21:24] <shiftplusone> CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf make whateverothersettingsyouhavehere
[21:24] <shiftplusone> *CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-
[21:24] <shiftplusone> (forgot the -)
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[21:27] <b4tm4n> getting some errors
[21:28] <shiftplusone> pastebin
[21:30] <shiftplusone> b4tm4n, actually, just give me a link to the source you're using
[21:31] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, http://picpaste.com/Debian-BuildRPI-dG9DIBG3.png
[21:32] <b4tm4n> (it's a headless VM, so copy-paste text is not possible)
[21:32] <shiftplusone> will get to the rest once I compile it myself, but why is ARCH not arm?
[21:33] <b4tm4n> so, CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf- ARCH=arm make?
[21:33] <b4tm4n> same error though
[21:34] <b4tm4n> maybe it's a path thing
[21:34] <shiftplusone> I'll let you know once linux repo is done cloning
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[21:35] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, where are you cloning from?
[21:36] <shiftplusone> github raspberrypi linux
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[21:37] <RavenII> Here's my latest... http://pastebin.com/0uZJuqT5
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[22:09] <shiftplusone> b4tm4n, alright... building. Will let you know how it went in a few minutes
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[22:14] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, i have everything setup best i can tell basd on what i've read
[22:14] <b4tm4n> (ssh'd into the build box so i can copy/paste)
[22:14] <b4tm4n> shiftplusone, http://pastebin.com/4Erp0BX1
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> this seems to work for me make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- ARCH=arm KSRC=$HOME/dev/linux
[22:32] <shiftplusone> b4tm4n
[22:32] <shiftplusone> 8188eu.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), BuildID[sha1]=e57d14423f0a0dc3b8072de46525f7a9a75ad74a, not strippe
[22:32] <shiftplusone> built just fine
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[23:21] <shiftplusone> nap time
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