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[0:43] <Mikeyman64> Hello. Question for those willing: can anyone suggest a good computer language to focus on for making scripts for the RaspberryPi? I would love to get I to development for engineering reasons and I don't know what language to learn.
[0:47] <NicoHood> Mikeyman64: try c++ and maybe start with an arduino
[0:48] <NicoHood> i tried java, python and basic before without luck
[0:48] <NicoHood> but c/c++ is very nice
[0:48] <Mikeyman64> Awesome. Thanks.
[0:49] <NicoHood> have a look at the arduino uno and maybe start there. a lot of examples and tons of projects/fun :)
[0:49] <NicoHood> later on you could switch to a raspberry if needed. but i like microcontrollers^^
[0:50] <plugwash> microcontrollers and devices like the Pi serve different tasks
[0:50] <NicoHood> sure. just wanted him to have a look. :)
[0:51] <NicoHood> pi + arduino uno == perfect
[0:51] <NicoHood> or maybe mega ;) for me a mega^^
[0:59] <Mikeyman64> I definitely want to take baby steps, so I'll probably grab an uno first (apt). Thanks for the pointers!
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[1:01] <NicoHood> Mikeyman64: yup, good luck. if you do so, check this out: https://github.com/NicoHood/HID
[1:03] <Mikeyman64> Very cool! Kind of in the general direction I'm going anyway. :D
[1:04] <NicoHood> okay, im out. if you have any questions join freenode #arduino or ask me tomorrow ;)
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[15:16] <agentsoul> Hello I am just updating my RasPi via ssh (apt-get upgrade) and stuck at Genrating locales. Yes "this might take a while" but I am up to an hour now. Is there a way to check if the update is still working without interuppting it?
[15:17] <agentsoul> with "top" i couldn't find a command that looks like it is the apt-get upgrade
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[16:17] <kraut_> hoi
[16:18] <kraut_> i'm confused about the installer. i've got two rpi, let's say the old and new one. the old one uses a sdcard with openelec, the new one i formatted with vfat and put the installer-zip files on it
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[16:18] <kraut_> the old one can boot the openelec and raspbian card, the new one only the openelec card. why can't i boot the old one with the raspbian installer card?
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[16:22] <kraut_> so i think the rpi is fine, the power supply is fine and the card is fine... i don't know what the problem is :/
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[16:43] <kraut_> ah, got it
[16:44] <kraut_> i used the ua-netinst way and it's working
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[16:47] <shiftplusone> lesson learned... abandoned stuff from 2012 doesn't work too well on the pi =P
[16:48] <kraut_> yip
[16:48] <kraut_> dependency warnings during installation can be ignored?
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> haven't used it in a while, but I assume so.
[16:54] <kraut_> let's see what happens ;)
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[17:03] <kraut_> yah, everything is fine
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[17:05] <shiftplusone> hurray
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[17:46] <subscious> hey guys. I'm having trouble using tmux and screen. tmux will give me "severe" lag with scrollback compared to tty.
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[17:46] <subscious> is scrolling some 10 pages back with one stroke I get something like a second in responsedelaz on kezrelease.
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[17:48] <subscious> Is there a fix for it? It seemed like screen didn't handle the raspbian terminal very well. Might this be the reason for the issue?
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[18:13] <xyNNN> Anyone experience with multiple network interfaces and the hostname from the raspberry pi?
[18:14] <gordonDrogon> not for the Pi but other Debian systems.
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[18:15] <xyNNN> the problem is the following ... i have configured a second network interface for wifi connection without problems
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[18:15] <xyNNN> but my hostname "raspberrypi" is not send to the configured gateway .... i have a dhcp server (router) but a static ip
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> so from another PC on the LAN, you ping 'raspberrypi' and it always pings the wired interface?
[18:18] <rela> oh dns dns where art thou?
[18:18] <xyNNN> mom
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> yup - local DNS server is possibly what you need.
[18:19] <xyNNN> when i ping "ping raspberrypi" it ping on 192.168.0.81 but the raspberrypi wlan0 interface is configured for ip 0.55
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[18:19] <gordonDrogon> so you need local DNS server and put 2 different names in it for each interface to the Pi.
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> e.g. pi-wifi and pi-wired
[18:21] <xyNNN> and i cant configure the hostname for each interface on the raspberrypi?
[18:21] <rela> another idea for a quick fix and workaround would be to edit the local hosts file (probably)
[18:21] <xyNNN> yeah that is really a quickfix :
[18:21] <xyNNN> :P
[18:21] <rela> xyNNN: the remote computers do not refer the local names from the rpi
[18:21] <rela> but their configured dns server
[18:21] <rela> which most likely is your home router
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> part of the issue is that a linux box doesn't 'send' its hostname out as such - although DHCP can pick up the hostname then act as a windows name server for that name/ip ...
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> or a dynamic dns server.
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> but it's only like a one-shot operation.
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> it all gets a bit messy after that.
[18:23] <rela> i do not like the dhcp-dns combination. it most times works but not all the time
[18:24] <xyNNN> hm, so i have to configure the hostname on the used dns server (router)?
[18:24] <rela> buuuut what i did for a local service is: register a dns name at [insert dyndns service here] that referred to the local IP
[18:24] <rela> that could be a nifty idea in this case too
[18:25] <rela> rpi-wired.no-ip.org
[18:25] <rela> rpi-wifi.no-ip.org
[18:25] <rela> works only with internet access though
[18:26] <rela> xyNNN: if your router allows you to register / change dns names -> yes (mine is capable of that)
[18:26] <xyNNN> hm.. okay - thank you so far :)
[18:27] <rela> thank gordonDrogon - he seems to be a really nice guy
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[18:27] <Technicus> hello, how can I update the framebuffer?
[18:28] <rela> O_o
[18:33] <xyNNN> Thanks gordonDrogon and rela :)
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> sorry - bit distracted for a minte there. Yes - a lot wil ldepend on your router setup etc. I run a fairly geeky network here in my home/office, so running a local DNS server is what I do.
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> actually, it's a remote DNS server because I'm too lazy to setup a proper split-horizon system, but e.g. my laptops have -e and -w names (for ethernet and wireless).
[18:34] <rela> gordonDrogon: teach him how to set up bind :)
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> a-ha...
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[20:06] <Everiste> i would like to know if there is a way of displaying a static image to the HDMI output, without using X
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[20:08] <Everiste> I don't want to use a bunch of display managers and media player software, I essentially want to take an image of the right format
[20:09] <Everiste> and write it to the output within a script
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[20:54] <jakllsch> Everiste: maybe look a image viewer for linux framebuffer
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[20:56] <gordonDrogon> there's a few image viewers - trouble is, I can't remember their names, but knowing that they do exists is at least a start...
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> 'fbi' seems to be popular.
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[20:57] <Everiste> jakllsch, gordonDrogon thanks, I am looking into that now
[20:58] <Everiste> i had got as far as 'frame buffer', but not knowing that such a thing is called an 'image viewer' (duh)
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[21:23] <pi___> gordonDrogon & jakllsch, thanks a lot for your help. I just got a basic image displayed with an image viewer tool called 'fim' - for some reason fbi wouldn't work.
[21:23] <pi___> i have some tinkering to do, but thanks so much for getting me this far
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[21:33] <Everiste> sorry dfault nick. I was the guy asking about the framebufer stuff
[21:36] <kraut> i've got issues with my ethernet connection. it seems my rpi uses smsc95xx. after booting up, only LNK is blinking, i see a DHCPDISCOVER and a DHCPOFFER to the rpi but no request or ack. also with static ip there is no connection. only after toggle many times the physical connections i might be able to get a connection.
[21:38] <kraut> i also tried smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N in cmdline.txt without any success
[21:38] <kraut> maybe someone got an idea how to fix this?
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> sounds like a cable fault.
[21:39] <kraut> cable is working for any other network client
[21:39] <kraut> maybe any duplex issue at a gigabit port?
[21:39] <kraut> it seems on a 100 mbps port it's working more stable
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[21:45] <kraut> after a successful connection i see in syslog only the toggling of the ethernet port, nothing else
[21:45] <kraut> also LNK is heavily blinking
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[21:48] <kraut> that's all i see in kern.log: http://pastebin.com/ZgjXEuzm
[21:48] <kraut> btw, actually i'm able to connect to the rpi
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[22:26] <kraut> gah
[22:26] <kraut> i think i fixed it
[22:26] <kraut> rpi-update did the job
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[22:34] <scyld> Hi! I need to setup RPi having wlan0 (WPA2-PSK, dhcp) as uplink to my ISP and eth0 connected to my private router. What is the best way to do it? For now I have setup connection to ISP and manual, static network setup for eth0 but when I boot RPi sets default route via eth0 not wlan0�
[22:35] <scyld> Before U had problem with ifplugd and it was uninstalled .
[22:37] <scyld> Maybe a proper /etc/network/interfaces would solve this?
[22:42] <scyld> WAN <--> wlan0 (wpa-psk,dhcp) -- masquerade -- eth0 (static,192.168.0.1) <--> wan port of router (static,192.168.0.2)
[22:43] <scyld> I have it like that. Wifi is configured, eth0 too, but the problem is right after booting�
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