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[10:17] <zGrr> moin :)
[10:17] <evil_dan2wik> moan
[10:18] <zGrr> :)
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[10:40] <grammoboy> I've enabled external soundcards, but now usb hardware is not working anymore
[10:40] <grammoboy> is there a way to turn that off in the config files?
[10:41] <grammoboy> i was trying to connect my behringer usb soundcard
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[10:56] <grammoboy> how can I undo external soundcards?
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[11:23] <grammoboy> ah shoot wrong channel :)
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[11:29] <grammoboy> association request to driver failed
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[11:30] <grammoboy> wifi not working anymore
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[11:49] <AlexHjelm> YES we are online at http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianMirrors
[11:49] <AlexHjelm> ^^
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[20:16] <PhonikG> while trying to build a program from source i get this error:
[20:16] <PhonikG> c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
[20:16] <PhonikG> google search says it is due to low memory, something we all deal with on our raspi's
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[20:17] <PhonikG> will a swap file or swap partition on a usb flash drive help me around this issue?
[20:17] <dv-> yes
[20:17] <PhonikG> any good sources for creating one on raspbian?
[20:18] <dv-> same as any linux i guess
[20:18] <dv-> fdisk, create a swap partition, then run mkswap on it
[20:19] <PhonikG> kk thnx... will attempt to follow debian link i found as well
[20:19] <PhonikG> thanks dv- at least I know im headed in the right direction
[20:20] <dv-> it will probably be slow though
[20:21] <PhonikG> i have time... ill save cross compiling for another day:)
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[20:23] <PhonikG> ...learn one thing at a time...
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[20:37] <TheSnide> diederik: so far, align partition to 8MB and using a 8MB raid-like stripe for ext4 has the best perf.
[20:38] <TheSnide> diederik: http://blogofterje.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/optimizing-fs-on-sd-card/ has good magic numbers
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[20:38] <diederik> thanks TheSnide :)
[20:38] <TheSnide> diederik: dunno if they are the best.
[20:40] <TheSnide> i just left the journal on. as it provides better oops-power-off behavior
[20:40] <diederik> yeah, I don't like the idea of turning of the journal
[20:43] <TheSnide> it might be interesting to create the ext partition with those numbers
[20:43] <TheSnide> but *with* joutnal.
[20:43] <TheSnide> journal
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[20:44] <diederik> I'll add the info to https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/issues/21
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[20:44] <TheSnide> oh, same url ;-)
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[20:47] <TheSnide> still, i'm also thinking about enabling laptop mode, or increasing th commit interval
[20:49] <diederik> laptop mode has an effect on it too? Didn't know that
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[20:58] <diederik> LOL, I only now realize that the exact same URL is posted in that issue :-P
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[21:09] <TheSnide> yep.
[21:09] <joakimGNU> no
[21:09] <TheSnide> laptop mode does try to retain as much writes as possible.
[21:10] <TheSnide> so, it might avoid write amplification
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[21:26] <diederik> I realize it doesn't say much about a running system, but I've timed various installation using various ext4 'optimizations' and found that without those it was the quickest
[21:28] <TheSnide> timed installs, of uanetinst ?
[21:28] <diederik> yes. The installer logs when it starts and finishes and calculates the duration of the install from that
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[21:30] <TheSnide> interesting. can you have itermediate timings ?
[21:30] <diederik> what do you mean?
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[21:32] <TheSnide> to see if there's a difference in various parts of the install
[21:32] <TheSnide> (sortof bootchart)
[21:33] <diederik> that should be rather easy to do, just modify scripts/etc/init.d/rcS
[21:33] <diederik> See https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/scripts/etc/init.d/rcS#L229 and 262
[21:37] <TheSnide> o_O support for rootfs as f2fs or btrfs... wondering if it changes in worse or better.
[21:37] <TheSnide> (and yes, install is only a bench, but as all bench, it is an approximation)
[21:38] <diederik> I've done testing with those too and ext4 was still quicker.
[21:39] <TheSnide> yes, that's what i remeber to have read somewhere
[21:39] <diederik> Keep in mind that during installation a LOT of small files get written to the fs for the first time, so that could have a big impact on the result
[21:40] <TheSnide> i'm wondering about remove journal while install. and add it at the end
[21:40] <TheSnide> (like create index after bulk load)
[21:40] <diederik> that would be an interesting experiment
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[21:42] <TheSnide> also using https://www.flamingspork.com/projects/libeatmydata/
[21:45] <TheSnide> that rcS file is... HUGE ;-)
[21:46] <diederik> a lot of whitespace :-P
[21:46] <TheSnide> hehe
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[21:48] <diederik> it is actually not as daunting as it may seem at first. Once you know the structure you should be able to get around pretty quickly.
[21:58] <TheSnide> i'm also sometimes fond of big files. specially if it's very linear
[21:59] <diederik> it is quite linear (imo). If you go through it and find things hard to comprehend, let me know and I'll try to improve it
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