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[1:29] <botnut> anyone know of a good guide for locking down raspbian ? i.e. making it very secure?
[1:29] <botnut> im imagining it's the same as debian with changes here or there
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[1:34] <plugwash> what is your threat model?
[1:36] <botnut> not sure I have one
[1:37] <botnut> plugwash - the pi can be accessed over wifi, or bluetooth
[1:37] <botnut> plugwash - no direct access to it really.. like hardline access that is
[1:38] <plugwash> The point is when considering lockdown you first and foremost have to think about where you threats are coming from
[1:38] <plugwash> for example if your threat is people present locally then you have to start thinking about things like padlocks and security cables
[1:39] <botnut> its locked in a box
[1:39] <botnut> no port accessible to the outside world
[1:39] <plugwash> ok so you've thought about that bit already
[1:39] <botnut> yup
[1:40] <botnut> only port really accessible on the box is a power cable - that's it
[1:40] <botnut> so my concern is locking down the os really
[1:40] <plugwash> mostly I imagine things will be much the same as any other debian system, if you are basing on the raspberry pi foundation's image you should be aware that their sudo setup makes user pi effectively root
[1:40] <botnut> yup
[1:40] <botnut> and yup
[1:40] <botnut> lol
[1:41] <plugwash> personally for a setup like this i'd feel much safer building up from a mimimal system set up with either a manual debootstrap or something like raspbian-ua-netinst than trying to strip down the raspberry pi foundation image
[1:42] <botnut> yeah I was thinking the same thing
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[2:40] <- *mpmc* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[2:44] <mi11k1> hey, is there anybody around familiar with sipwitch?
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[5:53] <bloony> Hi, I have a PI running raspberrian that keeps crashing.. its only a red light and I need to cut the power and plug it back in again.. does it store the old logs? What logs should I look at and what am i looking for?
[5:56] <mi11k1> memory card/power
[5:57] <bloony> the red light is still on when it crashes so it has power.. and I dont touch the memory card when I reboot it so it should be fine?
[5:57] <bloony> can I see in the logs if it lost contact with it?
[5:58] <mi11k1> yah, it has power, but not enough
[5:58] <bloony> hum.. that might be.. its plugged into the router usb
[5:58] <bloony> guess I can use a mobile charger?
[5:58] <mi11k1> haha, yep, thats your problem
[5:59] <mi11k1> you should try andf get it 2 amps, it will work on 1
[6:00] <mi11k1> also, mine has almost no tolerance for supplying power to USB, you almost always need a powered hub.
[6:01] <taza> Depends.
[6:01] <mi11k1> some do some dont ive gathered
[6:01] <taza> A B+ has plenty of tolerance for supplying power to the USB (but needs a 2A charger)
[6:01] <taza> A B can do it for low-draw devices like most keyboards, and needs a 1A charger
[6:01] <mi11k1> well, maybe a b+
[6:02] <VoidFox> B needs at least 700mA.. normal usb ports only give 500... didnt try but with an Y cable it might work
[6:02] <taza> B can handle under 700mA
[6:02] <taza> And at max like 750-800mA, but chargers don't always supply as much as they say
[6:03] <mi11k1> even if I supply 2 amps to mine, it will only handle 500 load
[6:03] <taza> It probably can't even handle a 500 load.
[6:04] <taza> It's not supposed to, either. The B is supposed to be only able to handle low-draw devices.
[6:04] <taza> The B+ can handle high-draw, though
[6:05] <mi11k1> well, I mean only one thing plugged in, otherwise it corrupts my card
[6:06] <mi11k1> and i cant hotswap anything withouth it rebooting
[6:07] <mi11k1> I can with a hub though
[6:07] <taza> There's a lot of good info on this on the forums, and the USB standard actually does include notes about this
[6:08] <mi11k1> well, I moved my os to usb and just boot off the sd now, and its been working amazing
[6:09] <mi11k1> way faster too
[6:09] <taza> Like, low-power and high-power are actual things for USB devices. They're modes the devices operate in.
[6:09] <mi11k1> yah, I read a lot about USB a few years ago
[6:10] <mi11k1> trying to figure out the speed standards
[6:10] <taza> But yeah, that's the problem with the B.
[6:10] <taza> Nobody else's expecting a computer to run off only 700mA
[6:10] <mi11k1> well, the ethernet is on that bus, so it can get flooded easily
[6:10] <taza> Anyway, I need a nap
[6:11] <mi11k1> haha
[6:11] <mi11k1> i need to figure out sipwitch
[6:11] <taza> No, I actually need a nap, I've got a bad case of brain-hurty-time.
[6:11] <mi11k1> oh, i beleive you
[6:12] <taza> Well, have fun figuring whatever out.
[6:12] <taza> Always more to figure out...
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[7:46] <andrew__> Did anyone run buglist tools on raspbian? Such as "youtrack" or "Bugzilla" ?
[7:50] <andrew__> I installed youtrack and gitblit on raspbian. The git server works well, we put all company's code on pi.But youtrack are too slow, can't use as a buglist tool.
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[12:35] <heller_> does the server always have to create a client?
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[14:32] <droid909> guyz how do i install drivers for this device http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Realtek-RTL8188ETV-Wireless-LAN-802-11n-USB-2-0-150Mbps-Network-Adapter-/151463210849?pt=UK_Computing_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item2343e92f61
[14:33] <droid909> "RTL8188ETV Wireless LAN 802.11n Network Adapter"
[14:36] <droid909> anyone?
[14:37] <diederik> you should get the device ID and with that you could search for it on http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/
[14:40] <droid909> diederik: how do i get a device id?
[14:40] <droid909> diederik: vendor: 0bda ("Realtek Semiconductor Corp."), product: 0179 ("RTL8188ETV Wireless LAN 802.11n Network Adapter")
[14:40] <droid909> this one?
[14:41] <diederik> lsusb should give you it when it's plugged in
[14:41] <diederik> it's in the form xxxx:xxxx
[14:41] <diederik> but yeah it 0bda:0179 for that device
[14:42] <droid909> diederik: yes i see it in lsusb
[14:42] <diederik> linux-hardware didn't give a result though
[14:44] <droid909> diederik: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=74128
[14:45] <diederik> sounds as a good starting point
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[14:47] <diederik> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/
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[14:54] <diederik> Ha! I just found out that I forked that repo myself :)
[14:56] <droid909> diederik: http://pastebin.com/9ndEH2p0
[14:57] <diederik> Try to look in the raspberrypi forum post/thread you posted to see whether there's a prebuild module for your kernel version
[14:58] <diederik> The error indicates that you're missing the kernel headers, but the rpi foundation doesn't provide a kernel-headers module
[14:59] <droid909> diederik: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=462982#p462982
[15:00] <droid909> i have the latest raspbian 09.09 september
[15:00] <droid909> Linux raspberrypi 3.12.28+ #709 PREEMPT Mon Sep 8 15:28:00 BST 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[15:00] <droid909> i see my usb driver
[15:01] <droid909> but it is hard to understand what to download
[15:01] <droid909> they just provide 'numbers' which i can copy
[15:01] <diederik> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80256631/8188eu-20140908.tar.gz
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[15:02] <diederik> Based on your kernel and firmware version you get a filename and you add that filename to https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80256631/
[15:02] <diederik> It's really not that hard. Just take the time to read through it
[15:03] <droid909> i got now 8188eu.ko, so i just mod_probe it?
[15:03] <droid909> diederik: sorry ..
[15:03] <droid909> diederik: nm, i see instruction below
[15:04] <droid909> diederik: thank you
[15:04] <diederik> It describes exactly what you're supposed to do with it.
[15:04] <diederik> yw
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[15:05] <diederik> Get familiar with the procedure described there, since you will have to repeat that each time you run rpi-update (and it actually updates something)
[15:05] <droid909> diederik: it is working, i love you :D
[15:05] <diederik> LOL
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[15:17] <droid909> damn my RPI is unable to get monitor insformation and i cant set a normal resolution to it
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[17:34] <tha_grid> hey all, does anyone know word length on the raspberry pi a?
[17:35] <tha_grid> its 16 bit integer?
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[17:57] <shiftplusone> tha_grid, I would think 32bit.
[17:57] <tha_grid> so i have a 32 bit int?
[17:57] <tha_grid> shiftplusone?
[17:58] <tha_grid> i guess you can do and i = i +1 == 2^32
[17:58] <shiftplusone> If you're not sure, you can always check with sizeof, or use uint32_t (or whatever you're after).
[18:03] <tha_grid> sizeof(int) = 32
[18:03] <tha_grid> thanks!
[18:03] <shiftplusone> np
[18:07] <tha_grid> i want sizeof(double)/2
[18:07] <tha_grid> hah, just remembered lore
[18:08] <tha_grid> and of course its sizeof(int)
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[20:17] <ZephyrNode> Errrr hello?
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[20:18] <ZephyrNode> Sorry having a bit of trouble with my keyboard
[20:18] <ZephyrNode> On Raspbian it won't recognize my ctrl keys and I'm a n00b so I don't know how to remap them
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[20:31] <ZephyrNode> Hello?
[20:33] <ZephyrNode> Anyone
[20:33] <ZephyrNode> Aaaaanyone at all.
[20:33] <ZephyrNode> Because I really can't do anything on this damn thing until I can actually edit files in-terminal
[20:33] <ZephyrNode> blabla bla
[20:33] <ZephyrNode> *sigh*
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[20:38] <ZephyrNode> Hello?
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[20:39] <ZephyrNode> Ok fuckthis
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[20:41] <vagrantc> patience... eesh.
[20:41] <tigar> ragequit
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[20:52] <Getty> <scratchhead>...... even after reboot the download of wolfram-engine update hangs at 227MB..... <awkward>
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[20:52] <Getty> apt-get 227 MB/233 MB and nothing happens. I thought it was something with the system so i rebooted, but now after reboot, the exactly same
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[20:56] <Getty> 228 MB... yeah! \o/
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[20:57] <Getty> oh i see, he even restarts it all the time, the progress only comes with a new Get try (i am now after reboot at Get:10)
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[21:11] <Getty> now its through and all the following packages are with normal speed again
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[23:20] <MProp> Hey all, I did some searching but I can't seem to find an answer. I made a bash script that starts a movie playing with omxplayer on raspbian, and I want to be able to start/stop the video with cron (using crontab -e for pi user). The video starts fine, but killing it doesn't seem to work and once its playing I can't issue any other keyboard commands and have to pull the plug on the pi
[23:20] <MProp> any ideas?
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