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[4:26] <binaryhermit> hmm, my system stopped letting me log in as root via su or logging into a vterm. What are the odds that I got rooted as opposed to the sd card just getting corrupted?
[4:27] <binaryhermit> I'm on a clean sd card now
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[6:29] <auduny> Anyone else experiencing funky things on the internett now?
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[7:51] <TheSnide> auduny: #define funky
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[9:49] <Guest67771> hi when I click my shortcut on the raspberry-pi desktop to start minecraft, there's a flash of terminals, but then nothing. Any ideas how I might fix this and get the programme to launch?
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[10:50] <louzar_> Hi
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[11:52] <Chetic> I can't get X11 Forwarding to work
[11:52] <Chetic> when I try to start www-browser I just get a blank terminal
[11:53] <Chetic> I connect with "ssh -X pi@piaddress" and I have forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:53] <Chetic> also in /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the connecting computer
[11:53] <Chetic> I have restarted the service
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[11:57] <Chetic> Nov 26 12:55:31 habpi www-browser: checking tty name failed
[11:57] <Chetic> Nov 26 12:55:31 habpi www-browser: *** err
[11:57] <Chetic> ah other X programs work, it's just something specific for www-browser
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[11:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> should have like 3 different browsers installed by default.
[11:59] <Chetic> which ones?
[11:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> I don't remember. Just fired my rPI up for the first time last night and I remember there were 3.
[12:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> I used x11vnc for remote connection rather than X forwarding.
[12:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's all shut down now though. Getting ready to go to worky soon here.
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[14:40] <richphi> i am trying to read a serial input from an arduino and store it in a sqlite db and seem to have some issues with formatting
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[16:43] <CosmoSilverShiki> Howdy!
[16:44] <CosmoSilverShiki> I'd like to remove some stuff from my Raspbian IMG file so it'll fit on a 1GB card
[16:44] <CosmoSilverShiki> I'm essentially wanting to use it as a simple Internet surfing machine with the stuff I have at work today
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[16:44] <CosmoSilverShiki> I do have a bigger card but its not here :(
[16:47] <shiftplusone> CosmoSilverShiki, use raspbian-ua-netinst
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[16:49] <CosmoSilverShiki> Alrighty, lets fire it up :P
[16:50] <CosmoSilverShiki> Is there any crazy way I could make the machine to boot from a Flash Rom?
[16:50] <CosmoSilverShiki> like BIOS style
[16:50] <shiftplusone> flash rom?
[16:52] <shiftplusone> What flash rom?
[16:52] <CosmoSilverShiki> yeah, basically load bootcode.bin then loader.bin then start.elf off of a rom located somewhere on the I/o Config'd as an SD card or something
[16:53] <shiftplusone> Not sure what you're saying.
[16:53] <shiftplusone> You can have your rootfs on a usb flash drive, for example, but you can't do anything with any on-board rom that may be present.
[16:53] <CosmoSilverShiki> is it because the GPU's loader is basically solidly linked to the SD Slot?
[16:54] <shiftplusone> whatever rom there is, is tiny and is used to load the firmware off the sd card.
[16:54] <shiftplusone> so... in effect, yes.
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[16:57] <CosmoSilverShiki> can you edit the BCM2835 boot rom at all through any tools though? so I can point it to a different device on the system bus?
[16:57] <shiftplusone> like?
[16:57] <shiftplusone> where else would you point it?
[16:58] <CosmoSilverShiki> 16MB flash rom containing the fat32 portion of a Pi SD layot
[16:58] <CosmoSilverShiki> so all the config.txt and such is all stored inside the main core so to speak
[16:58] <shiftplusone> attached on I2C or something?
[16:58] <CosmoSilverShiki> yeah
[16:58] <shiftplusone> I don't think you can modify it (at least I haven't seen anybody do it), but the existing bootrom can do i2c and usb.
[16:59] <shiftplusone> and some other things, but not in the way you'd like.
[16:59] <shiftplusone> I'm not sure what it expects over i2c. I'll ask someone when I get the chance.
[17:00] <CosmoSilverShiki> some googling has told me that it's main cpuloader rom is burned at the factory, but does support booting from an i2C device
[17:00] <shiftplusone> indeed
[17:00] <CosmoSilverShiki> Basically the set up would mirror how an android phone would be set up
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[17:01] <CosmoSilverShiki> where SD is its own storage and the "/system" would be built into the i2C
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[17:06] <CosmoSilverShiki> Haha I can boot off of a USB floppy!
[17:06] <CosmoSilverShiki> cool!
[17:07] <shiftplusone> Eh?
[17:07] <shiftplusone> Not without an sd card as well. >_<
[17:07] <CosmoSilverShiki> yeah...
[17:07] <CosmoSilverShiki> haha
[17:11] <CosmoSilverShiki> I've got the netinst running
[17:12] <CosmoSilverShiki> wanna see my pi Lol
[17:13] <CosmoSilverShiki> I chose the most awesome thing to make into a case lol
[17:13] <CosmoSilverShiki> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10676174_10154927801895492_6124595896299728388_n.jpg?oh=4ceca9b40f5d27ae10238c6be05c9b48&oe=54D81AAD&__gda__=1426966080_30b457f15c1bedff426be04886ca448a
[17:13] <CosmoSilverShiki> whoops
[17:13] <CosmoSilverShiki> that link is incorrect
[17:14] <CosmoSilverShiki> here is my pi http://i.imgur.com/uBfSiRS.jpg
[17:14] <shiftplusone> same image
[17:14] <CosmoSilverShiki> I didn't mean to post a huge link though :3
[17:16] <CosmoSilverShiki> I'm still fresh on ARM coding :P hopefully it'll end up my favorite tinkering machine
[17:16] <shiftplusone> excellent
[17:16] <shiftplusone> what have you got planned for it?
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[17:17] <CosmoSilverShiki> Probably developing an arcade style game for it, maximize the hardware use by writing up my own linux
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[17:20] <CosmoSilverShiki> Ive written a game directly for x86 hardware before, utilizing linux on a small Disk on Chip module and a custom coreboot + USB dongle for security
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[17:20] <CosmoSilverShiki> it was fairly simple hardware though, 3DFX Voodoo 2 card, AC97 audio
[17:22] <CosmoSilverShiki> I like the pi because the SD is essentially the equivalent to a DoC setup and it makes me happy lol
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[17:26] <shiftplusone> heh
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[17:29] <CosmoSilverShiki> Hmm, could I program Atmega's with the pi? that would save me so much time setting up USB HID I/O (i.e Joystick) chips
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[17:30] <CosmoSilverShiki> thats another day's fun
[17:30] <CosmoSilverShiki> I'mma try messing with raspbian's system
[17:31] <shiftplusone> You should be able to program atmegas with the pi, yes.
[17:31] <shiftplusone> using avrdude and the spi interface
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[17:36] <CosmoSilverShiki> Ok, so I used the Netinst, now I'm at a black TTY
[17:36] <CosmoSilverShiki> pi and password raspberry doesn't seem to work
[17:37] <shiftplusone> root
[17:37] <shiftplusone> raspbian
[17:37] <CosmoSilverShiki> oooooooooo
[17:38] <CosmoSilverShiki> I see
[17:38] <CosmoSilverShiki> there we go
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[17:42] <CosmoSilverShiki> ok...now onto sticking in a visual system...
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[17:42] <plum> hi
[17:43] <plum> i installed phpbb on my pi yesterday, but i find it's terribly slow even while accessing over LAN
[17:43] <plum> is this normal and just due to the specs of the pi? or could there be something wrong with my install?
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[17:46] <CosmoSilverShiki> apt-get xserver-xorg
[17:46] <CosmoSilverShiki> whoops wrong keyboard
[17:49] <CosmoSilverShiki> If I want to apt-get multiple things at once does it work the same way if I just go "apt-get install this that those"
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[17:53] <diederik> yes
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[17:58] <CosmoSilverShiki> is there a setting to turn off the option that puts the TTY screen to sleep while running long options?
[17:59] <CosmoSilverShiki> *operations
[17:59] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/scripts/etc/init.d/rcS#L69
[18:01] <CosmoSilverShiki> So, since theres init.d this is what one could essentially call vanilla linux then and I can ask less dumb questions
[18:01] <CosmoSilverShiki> :P
[18:02] <diederik> the /etc/init.d/ on raspbian is just like at least debian ('proper') and likely other linuxes too
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[18:58] <CosmoSilverShiki> Uhh...
[18:59] <CosmoSilverShiki> I go to unplug the pi to start it again....and its right where I left off?
[18:59] <CosmoSilverShiki> weird
[18:59] <CosmoSilverShiki> maybe is it getting voltage feedback from my TV or ethernet/
[19:03] <plum> does anyone know why phpbb is crawling-slow on my pi?
[19:03] <plum> like, does it take a lot of resources?
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[19:04] <CosmoSilverShiki> plum you could overclock
[19:04] <CosmoSilverShiki> I like sticking it at 800mhz
[19:05] <plum> i don't want it to decrease the life of my pi by overclocking... that's my only concern with that
[19:05] <plum> should i put the phpbb forum on a different computer and simply link to it from the pi?
[19:10] <CosmoSilverShiki> not sure, my pi is being used as a gamebox
[19:10] <CosmoSilverShiki> here is my pi all dressed up http://i.imgur.com/uBfSiRS.jpg
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[19:12] <TheSnide> nice
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[19:14] <CosmoSilverShiki> I was going to use yars revenge but I realized it was fun lol
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[19:24] <plum> lol that looks pretty cool
[19:25] <SilverBullet> wget food_armhf.deb
[19:25] <SilverBullet> woops
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[19:28] <SilverBullet> my friend walked into the room as my aptget was running and was like "where is the computer you're typing that into?"
[19:28] <SilverBullet> I just pointed to the little box and she's like wait thats a computer?
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[19:31] <shiftplusone> heh
[19:32] <shiftplusone> plum, phpbb is slow because of the first three letters. Check how long php requests take and that you're using some accelerator. Are you using nginx or apache... or something else?
[19:32] <plum> i'm using apache
[19:34] <plum> what would you recommend in terms of accelerators?
[19:34] <plum> i've never heard of using those before so that's why i ask, i'm relatively new to this
[19:36] <SilverBullet> how would I remote control my TTY from my laptop on the same network? I have openSSH to go into the files but I want to copypaste all the stuff I have saved here
[19:36] <SilverBullet> all the words
[19:36] <SilverBullet> commands
[19:37] <diederik> what do you mean with 'go into the files'?
[19:38] <diederik> with ssh you are using a tty from your laptop
[19:38] <shiftplusone> plum, I think apc is the thing to use with apache. I would recommend trying nginx as well as apache and looking at php request times. Then you'll know what you're working with.
[19:39] <SilverBullet> yeah I can FTP into the SD Card but I don't remember how to use this laptop as a terminal
[19:39] <SilverBullet> OH I remember I used putty
[19:39] <diederik> yep, that is an ssh client
[19:40] <diederik> (normal ftp doesn't use ssh, sftp does though)
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[19:42] <SilverBullet> I'm betting its a securty feature, but is there a way to show what I'm seeing on my SSH on my TV (i.e the pi's video)
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[19:43] <diederik> I think not, but am not sure
[19:44] <SilverBullet> I tried to switch with alt+ function key but it brings up blank terminals
[19:45] <diederik> that sounds like normal behavior, but it won't get your ssh session on tv
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[19:46] <SilverBullet> so that means, if I type operations into my putty it won't show whats going on on the TV's TTY
[19:46] <SilverBullet> oh well
[19:46] <SilverBullet> :P
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[19:48] <SilverBullet> ironically my deaf friend showed me how to do barebones linux
[19:51] <plum> i'll try acp then, thank you shiftplusone :)
[19:51] <Odie_> SilverBullet: you could do this with command called "screen"
[19:52] <Odie_> = see and use same terminal session from multiple locations
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[19:52] <Odie_> it's very nice tool for command line work
[19:52] <plum> apc *
[19:53] <Odie_> (and also a must for everyone who uses irc)
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[19:56] <raspi1> salve a tutti,qualcuno parla italiano?
[19:59] <SilverBullet> oh no what did I do?
[19:59] <SilverBullet> my tty is going nuts
[19:59] <SilverBullet> like repeating the same text
[20:00] <SilverBullet> nevermind I'll just reboot
[20:02] <SilverBullet> coding for pi is fun! :P
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[20:03] <SilverBullet> (you know you have a problem when you write websites for a living only to sit down in front of a fresh pi on your day off)
[20:03] <raspi1> can be installed xbmc on raspbian?
[20:03] <SilverBullet> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC
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[20:05] <raspi1> grazie SilverBullet,
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[20:05] <SilverBullet> il tuo benvenuti
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[20:11] <SilverBullet> I wish I still had my IBM 5100
[20:11] <SilverBullet> I was going to take the back end off of it and slot a pi in the front end
[20:11] <SilverBullet> so it runs but looks like only 1/4 of an IBM amber screen PC
[20:11] <SilverBullet> lol
[20:12] <SilverBullet> http://hi-news.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1_IBM_Portable_PC_5110.jpg
[20:12] <SilverBullet> like that
[20:12] <SilverBullet> except with a small LCD
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[20:28] <raspi1> gedit
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[20:51] <SilverBullet> does the Pi support any form of physical halt switch
[20:51] <SilverBullet> or a soft reset?
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[22:08] <gordonDrogon> SilverBullet, there is the run pin.
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> something external can connect to it, pull it low and it will stop.
[22:09] <gordonDrogon> going high again, it will reboot, so it's really a reset pin, but its called run.
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[23:34] <tytan> I just ordered a B+. I was told overclocking to 1GHz is no problem. I don't even need heat sinks. Is that right? :O
[23:35] <shiftplusone> How dare you get a second opinion? =P
[23:35] <tytan> I just want to be sure xD
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[23:35] <tytan> I'm a student. A Pi cost a lot to me :P
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[23:41] <shiftplusone> tytan, check the forum
[23:41] <shiftplusone> tytan, read what the engineers who have designed the hardware say about heatsinks
[23:42] <tytan> is it hard to find?
[23:43] <shiftplusone> not at all https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=heatsink+site:raspberrypi.org
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[23:50] <tytan> Ok. No need for heat sinks ^_^
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