#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-12-10

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[1:39] <freddied> Hello
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[2:36] <pyrexwyrex> hey
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[3:02] <batabatu> ive got one of those sparqee cell1.0 cellular modems with a shield for the pi. I can't get the pi to boot with the shield plugged in. I've got power to the pi and separate power to the shield. Ive got a 800mA USB and 2A USB connectors, so i thought it should be able to supply enough current
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[3:08] <tpw_rules> define "not boot"
[3:08] <tpw_rules> and have you any device for measuring the current?
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[3:11] <batabatu> tpw_rules: the "pwr" led is on but none of the others
[3:11] <tpw_rules> and it starts up immediately if you unplug the shield? it should get at least a little way
[3:11] <batabatu> I can't get network connectivity, the fdx/lnk/100 leds don't flash, I can't ping it
[3:11] <batabatu> it does start without the shield
[3:12] <batabatu> i just went and fetched a plug rated to 1.2A
[3:12] <tpw_rules> what if you plug in the shield while it's on?
[3:12] <batabatu> so now I have one plug rated to 2A connected to the pi, and one rated to 1.2A connected to the sparqee cell
[3:13] <batabatu> i was scared of trying that in case I fry something
[3:13] <tpw_rules> do you have a link to what this sparquee is?
[3:13] <tpw_rules> well don't quite yet
[3:13] <batabatu> http://www.sparqee.com/portfolio/sparqee-cell/
[3:13] <tpw_rules> try plugging in the shield without the module
[3:14] <batabatu> ok good idea Ill try that.
[3:14] <tpw_rules> it says powered from usb OR header pins. is there a jumper on the shield?
[3:15] <tpw_rules> actually the raspi says it gets powered by usb. perhaps it's defective
[3:16] <tpw_rules> what if you connect it as a modem using the cable instead of the shield?
[3:17] <batabatu> still trying the first suggestion... the pi doesn't like it when I pull the power
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[3:17] <batabatu> sometimes (like now) it won't boot immediately
[3:17] <batabatu> I have to cycle power a few times
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[3:17] <tpw_rules> are you sure you plugged the shield in correctly. it's not offset a row or soemthing?
[3:18] <batabatu> yeah positive. It would be hard to get it wrong
[3:18] <tpw_rules> at this point i'd be inclined to inquire through support. something sounds broken. does the module power up plugged into your pc?
[3:18] <batabatu> i'll closely inspect the board for solder bridge or something. It looks reasonable quality
[3:18] <tpw_rules> like you can hyperterm to it or something
[3:18] <batabatu> you are supposed to be able to
[3:19] <batabatu> It came with a split usb cable, two "b" ends (I think thats what they're called, for plugging into the computer) and one mini usb for the shield
[3:19] <tpw_rules> plugging to the computer is "a"
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[3:20] <tpw_rules> but they sometimes do that when they need extra power. try plugging it into the computer to verify the module itself is okay
[3:20] <batabatu> ah. so I think I can plug one of the ends into power, one into the laptop and the mini into the shield
[3:20] <tpw_rules> look at them. i've seen ones that have a lightning bolt on the power or something
[3:20] <tpw_rules> if it's like a ? then use the one with only one cable connected to it for power (usually)
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[3:21] <batabatu> ok, ill just get this pi to reboot. I don't know why it doesn't work after disconnecting the shield. I always worry that it's corrupted the sd card
[3:21] <batabatu> ok thanks, I was thinking there could be a difference between the cable ends. I was afraid of frying my laptop usb port, hence I hadn't tried that yet
[3:22] <tpw_rules> no. similar cables come with external hard drives and such because they need more power than one usb port
[3:22] <tpw_rules> i'd ask their forums or their support rather than here. not sure of anybody else in here who has one
[3:22] <batabatu> the cable ends look identical, just that one is clearly split off the other.
[3:22] <batabatu> yeah thanks, I appreciate your help so far
[3:23] <batabatu> I thought they would be a bit more common, rs sells them and they look like a pretty handy module
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[3:23] <tpw_rules> they do look handy. i might consider it for my project. the idea of an intermediate server kind of disgusts me though
[3:23] <batabatu> I was wanting to set the pi up to provide vpn access to some hardware over the cellular network
[3:23] <batabatu> yeah i don't plan to use their server
[3:23] <tpw_rules> oh you don't have to?
[3:23] <batabatu> I haven't got far obviously but I don't think you do.
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[3:25] <batabatu> what do you reckon is the reason that the pi won't boot after ive plugged in the shield and then removed it?
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[3:25] <tpw_rules> i have no idea
[3:25] <tpw_rules> that sounds bad
[3:25] <tpw_rules> perhaps your shield is internally shorted and you've blown the polyfuse? it resets once it cools down
[3:25] <batabatu> frequently in the past i've just pulled power from the pi without proper shutdown and it still boots fine the next time
[3:26] <batabatu> I can't shut it down as there's no ssh without network
[3:27] <tpw_rules> get a meter and test if the shield is shorted
[3:27] <batabatu> ok, just ran out of battery on my meter so might have to do that later
[3:28] <batabatu> finally the pi reboots.....
[3:28] <batabatu> im gona try your suggestion of plugging in the shield alone without the module
[3:29] <batabatu> that polyfuse sounds cool by the way. I didn't know what that is, will ask uncle google
[3:29] <tpw_rules> basically once it gets too hot from too much current it trips
[3:29] <batabatu> yeah plugging in the shield alone causes the same error
[3:29] <batabatu> it must be the shield.
[3:30] <tpw_rules> but once it cools down, it un-trips so you don't have to replace it. i'm not sure if the pi actually HAS any but i've seen it around
[3:30] <batabatu> it's a pretty simple board, shouldn't be drawing power
[3:30] <batabatu> ok that polyfuse is a great idea
[3:30] <batabatu> im definitely going to look up how that works, sounds really interesting
[3:32] <batabatu> yep, as soon as I unplugged the shield, the pi booted first time
[3:32] <batabatu> im going to inspect the shield really closely, you must be right, some kind of short on it
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[3:36] <tpw_rules> i mean you could always buy a 50 amp 5v supply on ebay and find the problem by seeing what glows
[3:36] <batabatu> ha ha
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[3:40] <batabatu> tpw_rules: thanks for your help today
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[7:39] <lapide_viridi> I tried to setup a static IP for my pi. Not sure if I managed it correctly. Care to have a look? http://pastebin.com/2UtMPBv6
[7:39] <lapide_viridi> I think it changed the last letter this morning, but I'm nut sure if I may have written it down wrongly.
[7:40] <kingi> last letter?
[7:40] <lapide_viridi> Erm, number.
[7:41] <kingi> if u did it according to some tutorial u prolly did it correctly
[7:41] <kingi> just make sure its an address that isnt in ur moded/router dhcp pool
[7:41] <kingi> modem*
[7:41] <lapide_viridi> Think it changed from 192.168.0.3 to 192.168.0.2
[7:41] <lapide_viridi> Oh, that I haven't done. Care to explain?
[7:43] <kingi> ur modem hands out addresses from a specific address range
[7:43] <kingi> log on to ur modemrouter and check what that range is
[7:43] <lapide_viridi> OK, I'll se if there if a config for that.
[7:44] <kingi> if ur home network setup is similar to most setups
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[7:46] <lapide_viridi> Perhaps this?
[7:46] <lapide_viridi> Start IP Address 192.168.0.2
[7:46] <lapide_viridi> End IP Address
[7:46] <lapide_viridi> 192.168.0.253
[7:48] <kingi> that's from ur modemrouter?
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[7:48] <kingi> that's from ur modemrouter?
[7:49] <batabatu> lapide_viridi: could it be that "adress" should be "address"?
[7:49] <kingi> yea that's wrong, didn't notice it
[7:49] <kingi> but if he has a life and other people use the same internet connection he should fix the dhcp pool also
[7:50] <kingi> or other computers
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[7:51] <lapideviridi> Yeah, I have a life and a pulse.
[7:52] <lapideviridi> batabatu, no idea why the copy-paste wrote it adress. I didn't change it.
[7:53] <batabatu> yeah i find 99% of my problems relate to a tiny mistake like that. Human eyes aren't good at spotting it but computers are mindless and pedantic
[7:53] <lapideviridi> It says "Use Router as DHCP Server" with Start Adress 192.168.0.2
[7:54] <lapideviridi> Should I change the IP in /etc/network/interfaces to 192.168.0.1?
[7:54] <batabatu> can anyone explain this then; i'm having problems with a shield that causes my pi not to boot when the shield is plugged in. After turning off the power and unplugging the shield, the pi still won't boot. However if i take another sd card with an OS installed, it will boot. Eventually after a few cycles of booting and shutting down with the "fresh" card, i try the old one again and it works. Any ideas why that might be?
[7:54] <kingi> lapideviridi no
[7:54] <kingi> thats ur router address
[7:55] <kingi> i guess
[7:55] <kingi> u need to change the pool to start from .10 or something , so u have static addresses .2-.9 u can use
[7:56] <kingi> or ur router address could be .254
[7:56] <kingi> i dont know from here
[7:56] <lapideviridi> batabatu, oh in the file!
[7:58] <batabatu> yep, was looking at your pastebin
[8:01] <lapideviridi> kingi, so I change the start adress to something a little higher, and use the ones that are not included in that?
[8:01] <kingi> yes
[8:02] <kingi> but if ur router address is .1 and .254 is not in use then u could use .254 and not change it
[8:02] <batabatu> lapideviridi: address!
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[8:03] <lapideviridi> batabatu, I did that. You think it is enough?
[8:03] <batabatu> try and see....
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[8:05] <lapide_viridi> Not sure what happened now.
[8:05] <lapide_viridi> I just saw a page in my router configuration named Static Routes
[8:06] <lapide_viridi> I can add destination, subnet mask and gateway address.
[8:06] <kingi> u dont want to touch the routers static routes most likely
[8:06] <lapide_viridi> Oh, then I'll stay away from it.
[8:07] <lapide_viridi> kingi, just to clarify, I have to set the start adress onehigher and use then one I excluded?
[8:07] <kingi> yes
[8:07] <kingi> so that the router doesnt hand out the same address to someone else that u set for the rpi
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[8:08] <lapide_viridi> OK, i did that
[8:08] <lapide_viridi> Gonna restart the pi and router, so we see if it connects again.
[8:09] <lapide_viridi> Start is now 192.168.0.3, i use 192.168.0.2 for pi
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[8:12] <kingi> u shouldnt need to boot the router
[8:13] <kingi> or the pi
[8:13] <kingi> on the pi just reload the network thingy
[8:13] <lapideviridi> True
[8:13] <kingi> pi@raspberry:sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[8:13] <kingi> or reload instead of restart
[8:13] <lapideviridi> The IP of the router is now 192.168.0.3, even i I configured it to be 192.168.0.2
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[8:15] <lapideviridi> I think we did something wrong.
[8:15] <lapideviridi> I'll set the start value back to 192.168.0.2.
[8:15] <lapideviridi> The pi is mostly the only computer which uses the network, which should be fines.
[8:15] <lapideviridi> *fine
[8:16] <kingi> 10:14 ( lapideviridi) The IP of the router is now 192.168.0.3, even i I configured it to be 192.168.0.2
[8:16] <kingi> huh
[8:16] <kingi> ip of rpi or router
[8:21] <lapideviridi> I set the start IP of the pool to be 192.168.0.3 instead of 192.168.0.2
[8:21] <lapideviridi> Then I gave the rpi the IP 192.168.0.2 in /etc/network/interfaces
[8:22] <lapideviridi> Fo some reason, the rpi took the ip 192.168.0.3.
[8:22] <lapideviridi> I reverted the changes of the IP pool and rebooted the rpi, but it still had 192.168.0.3 as its IP.
[8:22] <lapideviridi> Thus, I must have made a mistake configuring the static IP.
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[8:23] <lapideviridi> You get me, or am I inprecice?
[8:25] <lapideviridi> Here a new paste of the conf: http://pastebin.com/yDYYXwDi
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[8:28] <lapideviridi> Oh my.
[8:29] <lapideviridi> iface is set to eth0 I use WiFi.
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[8:31] <kingi> lol
[8:32] <kingi> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[8:32] <kingi> u need to set that part
[8:32] <kingi> i guess
[8:32] <kingi> havent configured wlan for my rpi and linux os's are stilla mystery to me
[8:33] <lapideviridi> Well, thank you for the help.
[8:34] <lapideviridi> I just remove the interface file and it should regererate, right?
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[8:36] <kingi> not sure about that
[8:37] <kingi> if u follow guides/tutorials they tell u to copy the default file so u can bring that back if u fuck up everything =)
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[13:56] <pog> hello, I have a ralink wireless adapter (Bus 001 Device 004: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
[13:57] <pog> every thing seems to be fine (module, firmware) und ifconfig. but iwlist scanning shows - wlan0 No scan results
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[13:58] <pog> Logilink Wireless Adapter shows on the packet even "linux support" :-)
[13:59] <pog> (... there is a cd, I will look wether there is a newer firmware.)
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[14:03] <pog> tra
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[14:04] <pog> stange there is a tutorias, which says that the dongle works: https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-set-up-the-ralink-rt5370-wifi-dongle-on-raspian
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[14:07] <pog> I tried to rmmod and modprobe the modules (what helped me sometimes on other non raspbian linux maschines).
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[14:17] <pog> I use a raspbian based on wheezy.
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[14:42] <lapide_viridi> kingi, hey, it's the guys with the rpi and the rounter from earlier today.
[14:45] <lapide_viridi> Well, I just wanted to tell you that after configuring the wlan instead of the Ethernet, it all worked out.
[14:45] <lapide_viridi> Even managed to reserve the IP adress.
[14:46] <lapide_viridi> However, after solving that issue, both apache and ssh failed to start on boot. Does anyone know why?
[14:47] <lapide_viridi> Just to clarify: With kingi's help, I made the IP of the rpi static by changing /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_somethingicantremember.
[14:48] <o1e> lapide_viridi: any error message for apache + ssh failure?
[14:48] <lapide_viridi> Yeah, the word FAILURE appeared in red an caps.
[14:48] <lapide_viridi> But that is all.
[14:49] <lapide_viridi> o1e, perhaps something in the configuration? But I can't imagine the programs to be bound by a specific IP.
[14:50] <pog> strange, I found out, that wpa_gui found the networks and it was possible to connect with the dongle.
[14:50] <o1e> lapide_viridi: both progs have options to bind to a specific ip, but usually it's not bind to 1 fix ip
[14:50] <o1e> you might look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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[14:51] <lapide_viridi> o1e, hmm, can do that tomorrow.
[14:51] <o1e> but first you should check the log-files for errors /var/log/*
[14:52] <lapide_viridi> Yeah, thanks, I'll write that down.
[14:52] <lapide_viridi> The worst thing about it is, that I have to use a monitor and keyboard now.
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[15:03] <WhiskyBullen> Has anyone tried installing Bro on their Pi? www.bro.org
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[15:15] <shahin8r> Anyone have any idea if this is possible and could give me some hints and directions in how to do this? https://db.tt/VFei6XxM
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[15:28] <Gwildor> shahin8r: 1 NIC will be the built in.... nic2 will be a usb nic, nic#3 will be USB wifi..
[15:28] <Gwildor> you would need a robust firewall (router) that supports multiple networks....
[15:28] <Gwildor> or you will need to assign to IP's to your tablet..
[15:29] <Gwildor> two*
[15:29] <Gwildor> though, without more information...im not exactly srue WHY you would want to do this..
[15:29] <shahin8r> Shouldn't I be able to do this with iptables on raspberry pi?
[15:30] <Gwildor> oh, wait...i misread..
[15:30] <Gwildor> you want the tablet to connect to the PI.... and not to a regular wifi router..
[15:30] <Gwildor> yes, this would be relatively easy...
[15:30] <Gwildor> with iptables..
[15:30] <Gwildor> actually, without IPtables...just using defaults,...it should 'work'
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[15:38] <shahin8r> Gwildor: oh wow, really?
[15:38] <shahin8r> I need to get home ASAP and test this out. :)
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[16:47] <zebu1er> Hi !
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[16:48] <zebu1er> Each time I plug the Ethernet, WIFI connection falls !
[16:48] <zebu1er> Is this supposed to work like that ?
[16:51] <diederik> It is a common issue and I think ifplugd is responsible for that
[16:51] <zebu1er> Precisely, the USB WIFI light turns of and a wpa-client RECONNECT as to be issued to restore the WIFI connection
[16:52] <zebu1er> diederik: You think this is a bug or a volontary behavior ?
[16:53] <diederik> My guess is that it is the intended behaviour for ifplugd, but I don't know why
[16:53] <diederik> iirc Dougie on the forums recommends removing that package, but I don't know the downside to that
[16:54] <zebu1er> I think I'm gonna try to dive in and see its config files, may be there's something explicit...
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[16:55] <diederik> sounds like a good plan
[16:58] <zebu1er> Yes, seems /etc/ifplugd/action.d/action_wpa making the seesaw !
[16:59] <diederik> plugwash: is it possible to get busybox 1.22.0-14 in the jessie archive? The current version isn't working (properly) for quite a while now and the unblock request (#771208) seems to have stalled for some reason :-/
[16:59] <zebu1er> case "${2}" in up) COMMAND=disconnect ;;
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[17:08] <zebu1er> diederik : I confirm, putting an «exit» at the begining of that script solves le problem ! :-)
[17:08] <diederik> excellent :)
[17:09] <zebu1er> Seems wlan0 if used as a backup for eth0 !
[17:09] <zebu1er> diederik : Thanks !
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[17:09] <diederik> yw
[17:10] <zebu1er> Bye !
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[17:49] <heller__> hmm
[17:49] <heller__> anyone used piface?
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[17:50] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, I have the following problem using a raspberry PI B+ and an Edimax USB Wifi Dongle: the connection works for some time, but then "deauthenticated due to local deauth request" messages appear and I get disconnected and cannot connect any longer
[17:50] <Gamoder_> After a restart, it often works again, but sometimes I have to restart twice or more often
[17:51] <Gamoder_> It seems random how much time is until that happens - can be a few minutes, can be a few days
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[17:56] <Getty> Gamoder_: you tried using a powered USB hub in between? first thing to execute is power randomness
[17:57] <Getty> aehm s/execute/eliminate/
[17:57] <Gamoder_> Getty: No, I don't have a powered USB hub
[17:57] <Getty> thats bad, this is the biggest problem of usb devices, that a little power shake can have impact on their functionality
[17:58] <Getty> thats why its crucial to first eliminate this, and have for sure no power problem (as in raspberry pi without anything that is not self powered)
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[17:59] <Getty> i really suggest that you buy SOME of those (they are cheap) to have them always spare when you need them. USB is a bitch
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[17:59] <Gamoder_> ok, I will get one and retry - but the raspberry should be on a "direct" power supply (so not via computer), so I something think this shouldn't be a that big probem
[18:00] <Getty> oh you dont know ;)
[18:00] <Getty> trust me, those power supplies are bitches, i dont trust any of them anymore
[18:00] <Gamoder_> *somehow
[18:00] <Gamoder_> ok
[18:00] <Getty> as said, it might be not the problem, but its the most common thing i have here with USB devices
[18:00] <Getty> you must also see, that for example, when you have the wifi the raspberry probably needs more power
[18:01] <Gamoder_> but you might be right, I had to carefully select the power cable to get the xbmc running
[18:01] <Getty> additionally to the wifi itself
[18:01] <diederik> Gamoder_: do you have a proper power supply? There a quite a few sub-standard once on the market
[18:01] <Getty> even with proper power supply this still can be a problem
[18:01] <Gamoder_> diederik: Yeah, I have tried a few one and selected the only which was working for my configuration
[18:01] <Gamoder_> but since the problem doesn't get worse if I use the xbmc, I don't really think this is the main root of the problem
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[18:02] <diederik> I did too, but at some point they still failed on me. That was gone when I bought one specifically/certified for the RPi
[18:03] <Getty> yeah and i can tell you: also those fail on you
[18:03] <Gamoder_> oO such things exist?
[18:03] <Getty> Gamoder_: yeah well "certified" is a wide word ;) they are approved
[18:03] <diederik> Getty: well, not yet any way ;)
[18:03] <Getty> diederik: oh i had shit here.. i have a stack of broken raspberrys and USB hardware
[18:04] <Gamoder_> ah, like in a list "these work"/"these don't work"
[18:04] <Getty> we kill them pretty fast here in the lab ;)
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[18:04] <Getty> gamoder_: normally all "official dealer" of raspberry sell one specific "official" power supply (like RS does)
[18:04] <Getty> gamoder_: those are the ones known to make the lowest amount of problems ;)
[18:04] <Gamoder_> I have bought it from a local reseller, I think - well, ok
[18:05] <Gamoder_> is there any logfile storing problems like "I have now some power issues?"
[18:05] <diederik> haha 'lowest amount of problems'; nice description :)
[18:05] <Getty> sadly its so that every moron writes "raspberry pi" on the product description if it supplies enough A
[18:05] <Getty> the problem is: power loading and power a CPU are 2 different worlds
[18:05] <Getty> one LITTLE LITTLE hickup and the raspberry is dead
[18:05] <Getty> loading a mobile device gives no shit about that
[18:06] <Getty> so NOONE designed most of those to supply 100% stable power
[18:06] <Gamoder_> but shouldn't that be a less severe problem in B+?
[18:06] <diederik> Getty: what kind of things do you do in your labs?
[18:06] <Getty> (who could have thought that someone seriously falls back to that to power a CPU)
[18:06] <Getty> diederik: whatever is needed ;) but we are more like a room with electronics where we develop on, my dad makes the electronics 2 floors up
[18:07] <Getty> he actually never destroys stuff ;) just intentionally
[18:07] <Getty> but in the real world part here in my floor we break a lot of shit while making the dev setups we need
[18:07] <diederik> sounds fun :)
[18:07] <Getty> and sometimes we are just stupid (yeah 12V to a raspberry header directly is NO GOOD)
[18:07] <Getty> (we know this now)
[18:07] <diederik> lol
[18:08] <Getty> yeah its fun since my dad decided to let me handle his capacities
[18:08] <Getty> he does electronics since over 50 years now
[18:09] <Getty> so now we try to get people to hire us for hardware/software combination development
[18:09] <Getty> (as i am doing like over 20 years web development)
[18:09] <diederik> I'm (unfortunately) rather lacking in that area, always focussed on the software side of things
[18:10] <Getty> yeah me too
[18:10] <Getty> thats why i have my dad ;)
[18:10] <Getty> he explains the stuff so that i can understand it, and can plan it into the project plan
[18:10] <Getty> i always had something against hardware as i was surrounded by it thrugh my dad
[18:10] <Getty> we actually had a robot arm in our living room for a long time
[18:11] <Getty> robot arm for car construction, my dad was doing some work on it and needed some space to place it
[18:11] <diederik> yeah, it's hard to get a positive feel for things when you see them all the time, but don't understand them
[18:11] <Getty> with the time my dad specialized for (ground) metal detection and general geo stuff
[18:11] <Getty> but the market broke (greece and ukraine were main buyer)
[18:12] <Getty> like totally...... dead dead
[18:12] <diederik> I recently bought a Pibrella for my first experience with GPIO :-P
[18:12] <Getty> i can tell you: raspberry pi is shit, but i cant tell you to not play with it, as i got the luck to have a person who can make custom boards ;)
[18:12] <diederik> yeah, not the best markets to be in
[18:12] <Getty> but raspberry pi is REALLY bad...
[18:13] <diederik> ... yet immensely popular
[18:13] <Getty> yeah its an easy access, but noone checked up if the guys designing and deciding it are really making a good decision
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[18:14] <Getty> and know here i know that hte I2C and SPI are actually buggy, and that the power concept is a pure "lets hope that works" mess (which just was fixed with the + series)
[18:14] <Getty> the current mission we are on is making a 8 PWM LED control device
[18:14] <Getty> with arm, and network, and being able to handle 280W (or 22A or so)
[18:15] <Getty> it has 2 power control, cheap china power or real high power devices
[18:15] <Getty> we added up a XT60 connector to make it "clickable"to connect a 22A device
[18:15] <Getty> all other competitors are selling them with wires
[18:15] <diederik> that's all way beyond my expertise
[18:15] <Getty> so that the people has to connect it themself to the device
[18:15] <Getty> yeah mine too ;)
[18:16] <Getty> but what i can do is: writing a simulator: https://github.com/LEDaquaristik/sunriser
[18:16] <Getty> so that when the hardware is finally running and the micrcontroller programm can fully start, he actually just converts the simulator into real code
[18:17] <Getty> that way i optimize our time performance, we make this complete project in 1 1/2 month, after xmas we send out the ordered 100 devices
[18:17] <Getty> (and then more to come)
[18:17] <Getty> we actually sell it as white label ;) if someone also wants to sell such a device
[18:19] <Getty> here is btw a picture of the beauty: http://i.imgur.com/6QXralB.jpg
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[18:36] <batabatu> what do you guys think of this: http://linuxgizmos.com/35-dollar-quad-core-hacker-sbc-offers-rpi-like-expansion/
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[18:46] <lapide_viridi> I plan to SSH to my rpi via the internet. It should work to just portforward an external port to internal 22 of the rpi, right?
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[19:40] <Getty> batabatu: looks sexy
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