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[2:31] <AirForce590> anyone willing to help me?
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[2:42] <clarient_> what is the demo hello_fft used for? Why there is no display when I run other demo after I run ./hello_fft
[2:44] <clarient_> There is no error message. Not enough memory?
[2:46] <clarient_> Or the memory is not release?
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[2:49] <clarient_> There's nothing appear on the screen when I run the demo like ./hello_triangle, before I run ./hello_fft it works fine
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[3:21] <shiftplusone> clarient_, interesting
[3:22] <shiftplusone> clarient_, I suggest you open an issue.
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[10:56] <heller_> If i set GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BCM) on one script. Can i use pgio.board on another?
[10:56] <heller_> if they run parallel
[10:57] <shiftplusone> You'd think so, but why?
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[10:59] <heller_> Just curious on how muc dohey affect each ohers
[10:59] <heller_> or is it always tied to the script
[10:59] <shiftplusone> They should be two different instances of the GPIO object. Unless you use options which actually fiddle the hardware, they shouldn't affect each other.
[11:00] <shiftplusone> I say 'should' because I don't trust python or python programmers to do the sane thing.
[11:01] <heller_> hehe
[11:01] <shiftplusone> But really, you should always stick to BCM gpio numbers. Everything else is just silliness (I'm looking at you, wiringpi).
[11:01] <heller_> so i can run few python scripts at the same time and not concern about them affecting others?
[11:03] <shiftplusone> As long as you're sane about it. Obviously you can't make the same pin an output in one script and an input in another.
[11:04] <shiftplusone> Same with pull-up/down resistors and alt functions... and whatever else would affect the hardware.
[11:04] <heller_> SUre
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[11:37] <heller_> i accidentally did ^Z, now my screen is all messed up
[11:37] <heller_> what did i do?
[11:37] <heller_> i tried bg after it
[11:37] <shiftplusone> fg ?
[11:39] <heller_> whats the difference on bg and fg?
[11:39] <shiftplusone> you paused whatever you were running and then continued running it in the background
[11:39] <shiftplusone> fg brings it back to the foreground
[11:39] <shiftplusone> if you have something running in the background and outputting text, it will mangle things.
[11:40] <heller_> thanks
[11:40] <shiftplusone> np
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[11:46] <heller_> can i have edge detection on few scripts running at the same time?
[11:47] <heller_> im reading one tutorial that says "and you certainly don’t want to wait for an edge because you may have other code running simultaneously."
[11:47] <shiftplusone> no idea how rpi.gpio implements it
[11:48] <shiftplusone> heller_: what they mean there is that you don't want your code to just sit there in a loop constantly checking for a transition (polling)
[11:48] <shiftplusone> what you want is to do whatever your program needs to do and then when the edge occurs do whatever you need to do about it. (use interrupts)
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[11:55] <heller_> so add_event_detect is kind of interrupt?
[11:56] <shiftplusone> no idea
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[12:05] <heller_> if i want to for example turn led on and off 10 times. can i use while, or do i have to use for?
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[12:07] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter
[12:07] <heller_> how can i make while to work for x times?
[12:07] <heller_> for i in range(3) works. is there a similar one for while?
[12:08] <shiftplusone> no, you need to add your own counter then
[12:09] <heller_> oh
[12:09] <heller_> any examle?
[12:10] <shiftplusone> not one in python off the top of my head
[12:10] <heller_> okies
[12:10] <shiftplusone> but in c: while (i <5) i++;
[12:10] <heller_> okies
[12:11] <heller_> im just learning python
[12:11] <heller_> first time doing anything with it
[12:11] <heller_> happy with it so far
[12:11] <heller_> :)
[12:11] <shiftplusone> I recommend you look at learningpythonthehardway
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[13:51] <heller_> heh
[13:51] <heller_> damn this
[13:51] <heller_> i sort of know what im oing
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[13:51] <heller_> but then i want to do something with timers, and im lost
[13:52] <heller_> something like if pin is low, do something. but if pin is low for 3s do something else
[14:00] <diederik_> heller_: it's a bit late, but have you looked at https://github.com/XavierBerger/RPi-Monitor ?
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[14:04] <heller_> dont know how it would help me?
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[14:05] <clarient_> What is the demo hello_fft used for?
[14:06] <diederik_> it's a (perl) program which logs various data to rdd and with the web interface you can look at the historical graphs
[14:07] <clarient_> Why I can't run other demo when I run ./hello_fft later?
[14:08] <clarient_> I saw there is assembly language in it.
[14:08] <diederik_> I don't know if it would help you, but it is a tool using rdd and it logs various data with a certain interval (which iiuc was what you were looking for)
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[14:33] <Halbard> Is there a way to recover the system after getting "illegal instruction" error caused by installing Debian package?
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[14:36] <plugwash> Halbard, it depends, recovery is probablly possible in most cases but the exact procedure to do it and the difficulty of doing so will depend heavilly on what exactly you installed from Debian
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[14:41] <Halbard> I have installed a few armhf *.deb packages downloaded from packages.debian.org which were required by another program but weren't available in raspbian repository. Some of them installed succesfully but one caused an error and left my system corrupted and unable to boot.
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[14:43] <plugwash> do you know specifically what packages you installed?
[14:44] <plugwash> (and if so can you tell me)
[14:44] <Halbard> I was installing cpp-4.9 https://packages.debian.org/jessie/cpp-4.9
[14:46] <Halbard> actually gcc-4.9
[14:48] <Halbard> these dependencies were the cause of the problem https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libgcc-4.9-dev
[14:49] <Halbard> not all of them but some, I can't remember now
[14:50] <Halbard> I have downloaded the ones I needed to satisfy dependencies
[14:51] <plugwash> Ok, I think this can probablly be fixed but not using the Pi itself, do you have any other Debian systems?
[14:51] <Halbard> I was thinking it won't do any harm to the system as long as the packages are in the right architecture type for RPi, which is armhf
[14:53] <Halbard> I'm currently on my windows pc, only thing I can do now is to boot Parted Magic but then I will have to go offline.
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[14:56] <Halbard> I don't have any other ways to access Linux environment unfortunately.
[14:57] <plugwash> <Halbard> I was thinking it won't do any harm to the system as long as the packages are in the right architecture type for RPi, which is armhf <-- Debian armhf and raspbian are the same CPU family and ABI but different minimum CPU requirements
[14:57] <diederik_> Halbard: using VirtualBox or something like that? (don't know if that's plausible since I don't know what solution plugwash is thinking of)
[15:01] <plugwash> using virtualbox may be possible if you can get your SD card reader to successfully pass through to the vm
[15:01] <plugwash> basically what you need to do is use qemu to chroot into the broken raspbian system, this will then allow you to install the raspbian versions of the packages in question
[15:02] <plugwash> something along the lines of (assuming your raspbian system is mounted on /mnt)
[15:02] <plugwash> apt-get install binfmt-support qemu-arm-static
[15:02] <jhuebner> the raspi is not capable of booting from usb, i assume
[15:02] <plugwash> cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static /mnt/usr/bin
[15:02] <plugwash> chroot /mnt
[15:04] <plugwash> wget https://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/g/gcc-4.9/libgcc1_4.9.1-19_armhf.deb
[15:04] <plugwash> dpkg -i libgcc1_4.9.1-19_armhf.deb
[15:04] <plugwash> (and so-on for the other packages)
[15:05] <Halbard> I thought gcc-4.9 is not available for Raspbian.
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[15:06] <roo79x> hello all, noob here I'm slowly trying to set up a server with my pi. but I can't access my pi if I use it's hostname serverpi (pi@serverpi) but I can if I use it's pi address (pi@192.168.2.4) I have a belkin N300 modem router and I'm using xubuntu to access my pi
[15:07] <Halbard> I couldn't find it through aptitude, thats why I was using Debian version of it.
[15:08] <plugwash> In both Debian and Raspbian gcc-4.9 is in jessie but not in wheezy
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[15:11] <diederik_> plugwash: how safe is it to expect busybox-static 1.20.0-7 to remain in the archive for quite a while? (that's the wheezy version)
[15:12] <plugwash> A wheezy version of busybox-static will remain in the archive for as long as wheezy does
[15:13] <Halbard> Is it possible to do it with Qemu for Windows?
[15:14] <plugwash> Halbard, nowhere near as easilly, to use qemu on windows you would have to run it in full system emulation mode which would need an appropriate kernel
[15:15] <plugwash> diederik_, that may or may not be 1.20.0-7 specifically depending on if Debian see a reason to update busybox in wheezy
[15:15] <diederik_> ok, thanks. You just answered the question I was writing :)
[15:16] <diederik_> there is an open security issue for the wheezy version (actually 2), so it may get an update
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[15:42] <Halbard> ok, thanks for the guidelines plugwash
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[16:04] <heller_> is it stupid to include GPIO.cleanup() on python scripts?
[16:04] <heller_> i do lots of ^C for scripts
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[16:21] <heller_> damnit
[16:22] <heller_> am i right on this one. if output is driven down, does it sink? or do i need to set it as input to sink?
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[17:19] <heller_> how could i output my ssh session to HDMI?
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[19:30] <lapide_viridi> How does my interfaces-file look for a static wlan setup? http://pastebin.com/ysSgMDge
[19:30] <lapide_viridi> Does it satisfy?
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[23:35] <Neptu> hej im trying to update my raspbian "sudo aptitude update" and gives me some problems resolving the hosts... is this normal??
[23:35] <plugwash> which hosts, what sort of problems?
[23:37] <Neptu> http://pastebin.com/kx7EyZ1j
[23:37] <Neptu> this is what i get on console
[23:37] <Neptu> souds weird
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[23:42] <Neptu> mmmmm might an internal network problem
[23:43] <plugwash> the fact that a load of unrelated hosts are all failing strongly suggests a problem on your end
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[23:44] <plugwash> does "ping 8.8.8.8" work?
[23:45] <Neptu> nop, seems internal problem
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