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[0:11] <msd2000> My raspberry crashes after a while, I run Raspbian
[0:11] <msd2000> http://pastebin.com/EsHgqd8e
[0:11] <msd2000> it might have to do with the Tevii Usb device falling to sleep?
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[4:04] <Getty> plugwash: crazy insane increasing number of people actually doing something with their raspberry instead of just buying it and playing minecraft
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[8:00] <acidjazz> man
[8:00] <acidjazz> ive tried forever now setting up wifi w/ wpa_supplicant
[8:00] <acidjazz> its so impossible
[8:00] <acidjazz> i have my stupid conf file perfect
[8:01] <rozie> use wicd ;)
[8:01] <acidjazz> i have to install it
[8:01] <acidjazz> see my issue
[8:01] <acidjazz> i need to provision 10 of these things
[8:01] <Dink_Meeker> Took me forever as well.
[8:01] <acidjazz> ugh it sjust wpa2-
[8:01] <acidjazz> can someone url a simple wpa2-personal setup
[8:04] <Dink_Meeker> Looking through notes, didn't save a url unfortunately. Gimme a sec though
[8:06] <rozie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[8:07] <rozie> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/wpa2-with-wpa_supplicant-616557/
[8:07] <acidjazz> thansk rozie i tried that exact method
[8:07] <acidjazz> hmm
[8:07] <acidjazz> oh hey
[8:07] <acidjazz> hah
[8:07] <acidjazz> i just removed evertyhign but ssid and psk
[8:07] <acidjazz> done
[8:07] <acidjazz> NOTE. for wpa2-persona, just put ssid and psk
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[8:12] <Dink_Meeker> This is what my setup is: http://pastebin.com/AvRfn7qq
[8:13] <Dink_Meeker> Seems to work I guess.
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[8:20] <diederik> acidjazz: are you using wheezy or jessie?
[8:20] <neo1691> HI, I am behind a proxy server, and trying to update the firmware of my pi, using rpi-update, but curl always fails with "Could not connect to host" My time is set up correctly and I have ca-certificates installed. What can I be missing?
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[8:20] <neo1691> I have set up http_proxy and https_proxy variables in my /etc/environment also
[8:21] <acidjazz> diederik: wheezy my friend.. why
[8:21] <acidjazz> diederik: jessies newer right?
[8:22] <diederik> jessie is indeed newer.
[8:22] <acidjazz> why isnt it available
[8:22] <acidjazz> or public
[8:22] <acidjazz> i can just dist-upgrade right
[8:23] <diederik> raspbian itself has jessie, but not the rpi foundation
[8:23] <acidjazz> whats that mean the rpi foundation
[8:23] <acidjazz> what im scared about are drivers.... support.. etc
[8:24] <acidjazz> stabillity > newness
[8:24] <acidjazz> ive already had enough nightmares w/ wifi adapters
[8:24] <diederik> wheezy is fine and there's no need to go to jessie
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[8:25] <diederik> is wireless working now?
[8:26] <acidjazz> is there a list of working 3g/gsm usb modems w/ teh pi
[8:26] <acidjazz> diederik: it is but my nightmar goes way beyond connection
[8:26] <acidjazz> wya way beyond
[8:27] <diederik> http://elinux.org/RPi_Hub <- usually a good place to find info on supported devices
[8:28] <acidjazz> yea im goin through it
[8:28] <acidjazz> i really love this site
[8:28] <acidjazz> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_3G_Dongles
[8:28] <acidjazz> relaly saves time and money
[8:28] <acidjazz> lookin for an out of the box newer card
[8:28] <acidjazz> hmm
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[8:31] <diederik> http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/ <- that's a useful site as well; you can find info on linux support on various devices
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[8:36] <acidjazz> thi sis nice
[8:36] <acidjazz> thanks
[8:38] <diederik> yw
[8:43] <acidjazz> so .. one fear i have generally
[8:43] <acidjazz> is i need my pi to suppor ta dual band usb wifi car
[8:43] <acidjazz> card*
[8:43] <acidjazz> and a 3g usb card
[8:43] <acidjazz> and im worried about usb power :(
[8:43] <acidjazz> i need portability
[8:45] <acidjazz> <3 https://github.com/notro/rpi-firmware
[8:46] <acidjazz> the pi community is by far pretty amazing even though ive been through some hell trying to do some .. i guess shady stuff :)
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[9:55] <acidjazz> now ot test this 3g feller
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[10:00] <acidjazz> lol
[10:00] <acidjazz> wvdial : Depends: ppp (>= 2.3.0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:00] <acidjazz> WILL NOT
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[10:49] <zGrr> moin :)
[10:52] <Dink_Meeker> howdy
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[13:16] <sealibora> is raspbian.org down right now ?
[13:16] <sealibora> ok, its back
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[16:13] <alex______> hi
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[16:16] <alex______> just a question, why the RTC modules are not included in the last kernel (3.12-1-rpi) ?
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[16:26] <Kosmenko> Good morning everyone.
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[16:32] <Kosmenko> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Kosmenko nirhjyfcfckb
[16:32] <Kosmenko> Drat.
[16:33] <Kosmenko> There we go.
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[16:35] <Kosmenko> Anyone able to help me out with a small problem on my PI? Trying to get my wireless dongle to work, but it isn't able to connect to anything or show up in wpa_gui.
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[17:03] <heller_> if i have two variables in python
[17:04] <heller_> lets say val1 and val2
[17:04] <heller_> can i print them somehow like print val[1,2] ?
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[18:31] <Kosmenko> Anyone able to help me out with a small problem on my PI? Trying to get my wireless dongle to work, but it isn't able to connect to anything.
[18:31] <rozie> what chip does it have?
[18:32] <Kosmenko> ar9170
[18:32] <rozie> do you use wicd, network manager or try to connect manually?
[18:33] <rozie> take a look on https://wiki.debian.org/ar9170usb
[18:33] <rozie> should apply to raspbian as well
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[18:34] <Kosmenko> Yeah I've been scouring the debian pages looking for a solution, I downloaded the firmware-free set they had there. I just have no idea how to install the drivers for it. Raspbian came with the .fz file for it, but either it doesn't work or isnt running
[18:35] <Kosmenko> I was going to give the carl1970 set a shot, but not too sure what do with it to be honest
[18:35] <rozie> firmware free is not enough according to this wiki
[18:35] <rozie> you need to install firmware-atheros
[18:35] <rozie> and check dmesg
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[18:36] <Kosmenko> Alright, where can I find that?
[18:36] <diederik> in the non-free section of the archive
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[18:37] <Kosmenko> Alright. Pretty sure I'm running Wheezy, should grab that one?
[18:37] <diederik> so add 'non-free' to your deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list (and you probably want 'contrib' added as well
[18:37] <vagrantc> according the https://wiki.debian.org/carl9170 you need to install firmware-linux-free
[18:38] <Kosmenko> Yeah I have all those files on the PI right now on the desktop
[18:38] <Kosmenko> Not too sure how to install them lol
[18:38] <vagrantc> you don't download to the desktop, you just use a package manager to download them for you
[18:39] <vagrantc> apt-get install firmware-linux-free
[18:39] <diederik> use your package manager, ie 'apt-get install <package>'
[18:39] <vagrantc> just like the instructions say
[18:39] <Kosmenko> Can't be done. The PI isn't hooked up with an ethernet cable.
[18:39] <Kosmenko> There's no way to do it manually?
[18:39] <diederik> you've downloaded the .deb file?
[18:40] <diederik> then you can do 'dpkg -i <deb-file>'
[18:40] <vagrantc> dpkg -i foo-1.2.3_all.deb
[18:41] <vagrantc> for most packages, you'll need to download and manually all the dependencies first (rinse, wash, repeat), but for firmware it shouldn't have any dependencies
[18:43] <Kosmenko> Alright, I'll see if I can find the .deb file to download. I only have the .tar.gz file.
[18:44] <vagrantc> Kosmenko: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-linux-free
[18:45] <diederik> http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-atheros_0.36%2bwheezy.1_all.deb
[18:45] <vagrantc> although it'd be better to use apt-get download or aptitude download from another machine, to get the key verification
[18:45] <vagrantc> diederik: but the instructions say for that particular card to use firmware-linux-free for wheezy+
[18:45] <Kosmenko> Yeah that's the file I have only as a .tar.gz
[18:46] <diederik> vagrantc: yep, and that's exactly what I posted
[18:46] <Kosmenko> diederik: You're a saint.
[18:46] <vagrantc> diederik: looks suspiciously like firmware-atheros
[18:46] <diederik> jessie has version 0.43
[18:46] <diederik> I thought he needed that?
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[18:47] <vagrantc> not according to https://wiki.debian.org/ar9170usb and https://wiki.debian.org/carl9170
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[18:48] <vagrantc> "{i} Wheezy users, see carl9170 for device support.
[18:48] <vagrantc> "
[18:48] <diederik> oh boy, you're right vagrantc. I was looking at the Squeeze section .... oeps
[18:48] <vagrantc> "Free firmware (GPLv2 licensed) is required for device operation; this is included in the firmware-linux-free package since version 3.2.
[18:48] <vagrantc> "
[18:49] <diederik> http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.2_all.deb
[18:49] <Kosmenko> So I shouldn't be using that file then?
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[18:50] <vagrantc> Kosmenko: according to the wiki pages, you need the firmware-linux-free .deb
[18:50] <Kosmenko> Alright, I'll put a stop to that one then.
[18:50] <vagrantc> i can't tell you from experience, just what the wiki pages say
[18:50] <Kosmenko> Is the second one diederik posted alright?
[18:50] <vagrantc> should be
[18:51] <Kosmenko> diederik: You're an even more profound saint
[18:51] <diederik> haha :)
[18:53] <Kosmenko> Okay it;'s on the pi
[18:54] <Kosmenko> Now i just go into su and cd to the path and run dpsk on it?
[18:55] <vagrantc> dpkg -i
[18:55] <Kosmenko> Err, dpkg* lol
[18:55] <vagrantc> and for simplicity, reboot, though you could manually unload and reload the module
[18:55] <Kosmenko> Cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:56] <Kosmenko> I navd to the folder it's in
[18:56] <vagrantc> dpkg -i firm<tab><tab> ?
[18:56] <vagrantc> ls *.deb
[18:57] <Kosmenko> ls: cannot access *.deb
[18:58] <vagrantc> well, there's your problem
[18:58] <Kosmenko> No such file or directory?
[18:58] <Kosmenko> Okay, whats the issue...
[18:58] <vagrantc> you're not in the right location :)
[18:59] <vagrantc> pwd
[18:59] <Kosmenko> I...
[18:59] <Kosmenko> Should be lol
[18:59] <Kosmenko> It's on the desktop >.>
[18:59] <vagrantc> where's the file? and where are you? "pwd" will tell you where you are
[18:59] <Kosmenko> Oh
[18:59] <Kosmenko> /home/pi/Desktop/Firmware-free
[19:00] <Kosmenko> Which is where the file is
[19:00] <Kosmenko> Damnit
[19:00] <Kosmenko> It's under linuxfree
[19:00] <Kosmenko> I deserve it, someone call me an idiot.
[19:00] <Kosmenko> Lol
[19:00] <vagrantc> no need :)
[19:01] <Kosmenko> I've been trying to figure this out all night on my own, i think it's catching up
[19:01] <Kosmenko> lol
[19:01] <Kosmenko> Okay!
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[19:01] <Kosmenko> I think it installed.
[19:02] <Kosmenko> Unpacking firmware-linux-free, setting up firmware 3.2, update-initramds: deffering update (Trigger activated)
[19:02] <Kosmenko> Processing triggers for initrramf-tools...
[19:02] <Kosmenko> Now back to line
[19:03] <Kosmenko> So in theory, it should work now?
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[19:06] <vagrantc> unplugging your wifi adapter and plugging it back in will hopefull work
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[19:07] <Kosmenko> Okay, I'll be right back and give it a shot.
[19:10] <vagrantc> if it doesn't, "dmesg | grep firmware" might tell you more about which files it wants that it didn't get.
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[19:20] <Kosmenko> Hey vagrantc
[19:20] <Kosmenko> New problem lol
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[19:22] <Kosmenko> When booting up the pi, the adapter doesnt turn on but the mouse and keyboard dongle works fine. But when i unplug the wifi and plug it back in, the pi itself locks up
[19:24] <Kosmenko> Theres also an error or warning on boot, kernal lacks cygroups
[19:24] <heller_> can i print variables with this? http://think-bowl.com/raspberry-pi/i2c-python-library-lcd-with-the-raspberry-pi/
[19:25] <heller_> i cant write chars and strings?
[19:25] <heller_> what are they? :P
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[19:32] <Kosmrnkoq> Any ideas vagrantc? :(
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[19:34] <diederik> Kosmrnkoq: there's a good chance this is a power (adapter) issue
[19:35] <Kosmrnkoq> What
[19:35] <Kosmrnkoq> Oh my name is used on my tablet
[19:35] <Kosmrnkoq> Crap lol
[19:36] <Kosmrnkoq> I'm not sure if it's power, because it was working just fine before hand before I got it working
[19:36] <Kosmrnkoq> Would that matter?
[19:36] <diederik> it seems that onces the wifi adapter started working you got this issue, right?
[19:37] <Kosmrnkoq> Well
[19:37] <diederik> what kind of power supply do you have?
[19:37] <Kosmrnkoq> I have no idea if it works
[19:37] <Kosmrnkoq> lol
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[19:38] <Kosmrnkoq> 5v 750ma
[19:38] <diederik> that's quite likely too little
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[19:38] <Kosmrnkoq> Hm
[19:39] <Kosmrnkoq> I wonder if I have anything beefier around. Let me check
[19:39] <diederik> The RPi certified onces have 2a iirc
[19:39] <heller_> can anyone explain me this line? data1 = file1.split("\n")[1].split(" ")[9]
[19:40] <Kosmrnkoq> Found one with 5v 2.5a
[19:40] <Kosmrnkoq> That a bit too much?
[19:40] <diederik> I think that would be fine
[19:40] <Kosmrnkoq> Between2.1-2.5 it says
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[19:41] <Kosmrnkoq> Heres hoping lol
[19:42] <diederik> heller_: it first splits the file into lines and then breaks the 2nd line (base 0) into words and takes the 10th word and put it into data1
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[19:45] <Kosmenko> No dice. Didn't work. :(
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[19:47] <diederik> heller_: maybe python uses 1-based arrays; then it would take the 9th word of the 1st line
[19:48] <diederik> Kosmenko: don't know what to do next; kind of hard to debug freezes :-/
[19:48] <Kosmenko> Yeah no kidding. I wonder if the dongle is pulling too much power and the dip causes it to freeze
[19:49] <Kosmenko> Maybe need a new dongle, though it's so strange that it worked before i installed drivers for it, but not anymore
[19:49] <Kosmenko> I don't get that =\
[19:49] <diederik> that was/is my guess
[19:50] <Kosmenko> Think trying a wired mouse instead of wireless could help? I want to check to see if the wifi itself actually works lol
[19:50] <diederik> what driver did you install? iirc the driver for your card is part of the kernel already
[19:50] <diederik> yes, or without mouse at all (if that's an option)
[19:50] <Kosmenko> Yeah it is, but I installed the firmware free ones for it
[19:51] <Kosmenko> Well, I don't know how to test if it's working without a user input lol
[19:51] <diederik> firmware != driver. You need(ed) to install the firmware, but after that (and/or a reboot) it should work
[19:51] <Kosmenko> Right right, meant firmware
[19:51] <Kosmenko> lol
[19:52] <Kosmenko> Well, Lets see how my mouse holds up
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[20:08] <heller_> diederik: it uses 0-based
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[20:08] <heller_> diederik: i've tried to play with that line. i noticed that file1.split("\n\) combines it all to one line
[20:09] <heller_> and the [1] _keeps_ line two
[20:09] <heller_> which is a suprise
[20:09] <heller_> and .split(" ") removes all spaces, but [9] keeps tenth word
[20:09] <heller_> sooo weird.
[20:11] <diederik> It doesn't sound normal that the split method combines the lines into one ...
[20:14] <diederik> heller_: http://paste.debian.net/137136/
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[20:18] <heller_> ah, it doesnt combine, it makes both lines into part of array or something?
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[20:27] <diederik> yes
[20:28] <diederik> and in the example I posted, "print txtArray[0]" outputs the first element of that array, namely 'Hello'
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[20:30] <diederik> using the interactive python mode and using print should help you get an understanding of how things work
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[20:31] <diederik> Also splitting that long statement into several and assigning those parts to seperate variables and printing them should help too
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[21:48] <Kosmenko> diederik:
[21:48] <Kosmenko> I did something silly.
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[21:48] <Kosmenko> I don't know what, but all of my users have vanished, and now it says "I have no name!@raspberrypi" lol
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[21:53] <diederik> cat /etc/passwd should list all the users on your system. Other then that, I have no idea what is wrong and/or what to do about it.
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[22:37] <HACROX> hi
[22:37] <HACROX> do you know if test command work in raspbian?
[22:38] <jakllsch> why wouldn't it?
[22:39] <HACROX> I have woteb thw nextone: if [test -e ./home/pi/ocr_pi.png]
[22:39] <HACROX> and the system tell me : script2.sh: 5: script2.sh: [test: not found
[22:40] <jakllsch> *headdesk*
[22:40] <jakllsch> you use "[" or "test" not both, at least not in that order
[22:41] <vagrantc> HACROX: also, use some additional whitespace
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[22:42] <vagrantc> HACROX: [ -e /home/pi/ocr_pi.png ] vs. [-e /home/pi/ocr_pi.png]
[22:42] <vagrantc> or: test -e /home/pi/ocr_pi.png
[22:43] <HACROX> jakllsch thanks just is this
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[22:57] <HACROX> Can I find a string in a file with any diferent command than grep ?
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[22:58] <HACROX> I don.t want a response I only want a binary true or false
[22:59] <shiftplusone> true =P
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[23:00] <HACROX> :)
[23:00] <shiftplusone> There are lots of ways to check for a string. Grep can give you a true or false as well.
[23:00] <shiftplusone> But if, for whatever (invalid) reasons, you don't want to use grep, there are all kinds of other tools.
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[23:01] <HACROX> can you tell me anyone?
[23:02] <Kosmenko> Hey guys, I just installed RasBMC and I'm tryin to download the GUI for Raspbain through tasksel, but I keep getting the error "tasksel: apt-get failed (100)"
[23:02] <Kosmenko> Any ideas?
[23:03] <shiftplusone> HACROX: sed, awk, perl, python, pretty much anything that can be used to process text.
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[23:03] <HACROX> thanks
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[23:12] <Kosmenko> vagrantc: You happen to be around?
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[23:22] <HACROX> hasta pronto, gracias por todo
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[23:24] <vagrantc> Kosmenko: don't really know rasBMC
[23:25] <Kosmenko> Know anything about XBMC?
[23:25] <vagrantc> just a vague idea about what it is
[23:25] <Kosmenko> Drat
[23:25] <Getty> if the new version is not called raspodi i will get disappointed ;)
[23:25] <Kosmenko> lol
[23:26] <Kosmenko> I'm still trying to figure out why a third of my screen is cut off :x
[23:26] <Getty> yeah well, it was probably a chainsaw? or some other heavy tool
[23:26] <Getty> i would wonder why the other 2 third are still working ;-)
[23:26] <Getty> #couldntresist
[23:26] <Kosmenko> ...in XBMC
[23:26] <Kosmenko> lol
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[23:31] <pycoderf> any know th eirc for raspbmc?
[23:33] <shiftplusone> pycoderf: I bet you can guess it =P
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[23:34] <pycoderf> oh i guess i typoed
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