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IRC Log for 2014-12-25

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[0:03] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Merry Christmas freenode! Don't drink to much, at least not if you're at the keyboard! ;)
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[0:11] <ShorTie> acidjazz, you can shrink the images down to a minimal size
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[0:14] <pycoderf> hello. i have some broken updatyes since trying to switch to testing and apt-get dist-upgrade will never finish. how do i undo all of the changes and restore to stable without imaging the card
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[0:17] <Rasi> hi
[0:17] <Rasi> just installed raspbian with the network image
[0:17] <Rasi> it installed everything and then rebooted
[0:18] <Rasi> now i see a red R and a message "nitL xbmc pre-start process (289) terminate with status 1
[0:18] <Rasi> and then nothing happens
[0:18] <ShorTie> don't think you can pycoderf
[0:18] <pycoderf> so nothign will ever update right hten since a couple packages have issues now and are half configured
[0:18] <pycoderf> i cannot spell sorry
[0:19] <ShorTie> only way now to get testing/jessie working is a fresh net-install anyways
[0:19] <pycoderf> it is actually a raspbmc install i think i broke. now to reconfigure it all. should have imaged the card prior to starting
[0:19] <pycoderf> unless you can help me with the couple packages
[0:20] <pycoderf> insserv: Service mountdevsubfs has to be enabled to start service hwclock
[0:20] <pycoderf> insserv: exiting now!
[0:20] <ShorTie> just changing whezzy to jessie is broke on > systemd-215-6
[0:21] <pycoderf> guess i have to reflash the card and reconfigure everything then
[0:21] <pycoderf> fantastic
[0:22] <ShorTie> you should always image/backup before that type of upgrade
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[0:25] <pycoderf> ShorTie: I know. but was ok on my raspbian system so i figured it may work
[0:26] <ShorTie> how long ago did you do that ??
[0:26] <ShorTie> like before 12/4/2014 i'm guessing
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[0:30] <pycoderf> yes
[0:31] <ShorTie> so do not update/upgrade that system with out putting systemd on hold. or it will not boot no more
[0:32] <pycoderf> i did updates includign firmware the other day and rebooted with no issue
[0:33] <ShorTie> ok, i sure can't
[0:33] <pycoderf> systemd is also not in my dist-upgrade
[0:33] <pycoderf> libsystemd0 though
[0:35] <ShorTie> apt-mark hold systemd, is how you put it on hold if you want to know
[0:54] <acidjazz> ShorTie: how do i shrink em down??
[0:54] <acidjazz> chekc it out all.. got an ubertooth to sniff on my pi :)
[0:54] <acidjazz> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ac1djazz/15912963907/
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[0:55] <ShorTie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0t13u5awa60kwy/Image_Shrinker.tar.bz2?dl=0
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[0:56] <ShorTie> untar then ./ImageShrinker <filename>
[0:57] <acidjazz> ShorTie: this work on osx?
[0:57] <ShorTie> got me, i work on a pi
[0:57] <ShorTie> it's a bash script
[0:57] <acidjazz> yea but you use an os to create/dupe your pi images
[0:57] <acidjazz> wh yis a bash script tar/bz2'ed
[0:57] <ShorTie> win32diskimager normally
[0:58] <ShorTie> cause it takes less room and doesn't loose the permissions
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[1:06] <pycoderf> how can i check my current cpu speed of my pi?
[1:09] <ShorTie> i think raspi-config tells ya
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[1:17] <pycoderf> what repo does that come out of? not available on raspbmc
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[1:36] <ShorTie> it's a raspbian thing
[1:36] <pycoderf> this uses those repos so it is odd. but alright
[1:37] <ShorTie> apt-get install it maybe
[1:37] <pycoderf> is there another way to tell the speed
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[1:38] <ShorTie> might be something in /boot/config.txt
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[1:43] <pycoderf> i commented out the line in boot/config.txt so it should be the default but i want to confirm
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[7:15] <rmc08> quick question. I got an RPi for xmas but don't have a microsd yet
[7:16] <rmc08> can I use a USB drive?
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[7:21] <kingi> no
[7:22] <rmc08> damn lol
[7:22] <rmc08> I'm impatient
[7:22] <kingi> go to a store
[7:22] <rmc08> I ordered it off Amazon but won't be here for 5 days
[7:22] <rmc08> thankfully I got an Amazon gift card
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[9:19] <rtcg72a> Hi, does anyone know what software can be used to program an Atmel 89S51 microcontroller from the Pi's GPIO? I have used AVRdude, but it doesn't support the AT89S51
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[10:27] <merkur> running jessie - my systemd-logind.service won't start.
[10:27] <merkur> I can ssh into the machine, and journalctl shows a few errors with CGROUP
[10:28] <merkur> kernel is Linux raspberrypi 3.18.1+ #731 PREEMPT Fri Dec 19 19:16:36 GMT 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[10:28] <ShorTie> you just updated/upgraded ??
[10:28] <merkur> yep.
[10:29] <merkur> latest raspbian/wheezy image to SD
[10:29] <merkur> changed sources.list, replaced wheezy with jessie
[10:29] <ShorTie> ya, it's a debian problem i guess
[10:29] <merkur> apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[10:29] <ShorTie> can't do that no more easily at least
[10:30] <merkur> here's the line from journalctl which I think may be the problem: Dez 25 11:17:11 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to create cgroup /system.slice/dbus.service: No such file or directory
[10:30] <merkur> as systemd.logind relies on dbus
[10:30] <merkur> and *maybe* this cgroup problem has something to do with a missing kernel config parameter?
[10:31] <ShorTie> yup, but systemd > 215-6 does not support a wheezy to jessie upgrade
[10:31] <ShorTie> feal like trying again ??
[10:31] <merkur> Sure, I've got some free time today :)
[10:32] <ShorTie> apt-mark hold systemd, before you do the upgrade from wheezy to jessie
[10:33] <ShorTie> you gotta keep systemd from installing
[10:33] <merkur> ok, will try that, thanks for the hint
[10:34] <ShorTie> or the other route is a clean jessie install with net-install
[10:34] <ShorTie> i gotta reboot
[10:34] <ShorTie> Be Back In A Bit
[10:34] <merkur> ok, thank you
[10:34] <ShorTie> No Problem
[10:35] <ShorTie> been fighting that myself since the 4th, lol.
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[11:29] <merkur> ShorTie: netinstall of jessie worked perfectly. dbus was missing, so logind had some errors, but apt-get install dbus did the trick. :)
[11:29] <ShorTie> yup.
[11:29] <ShorTie> didn't try the upgrade again ??
[11:30] <merkur> no :)
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[11:30] <merkur> netinstall jessie was probably faster
[11:31] <merkur> it's a quite minimal system now but that's okay.
[11:32] <ShorTie> didn't know if that would work or not, i know it stops the upgrading of systemd of an image
[11:33] <ShorTie> install lxde for a desktop
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[11:34] <ShorTie> ya, kinda basic, been trying to play with post-install.txt, but haven't had success with it yet .. :/~
[11:34] <merkur> apt-get install lxde .. wow, a lot of packages. Why does he also want to download nVidia, ATI and other gfx drivers?
[11:35] <ShorTie> oh, got me, didn't notice that
[11:35] <ShorTie> but it is a list, lol.
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[13:22] <merkur> hey this system is great, lxde is installed and works out of the box. Configured locales and everything is German now. :)
[13:24] <kleanchap> I have installed raspbian and can access it over the network ONLY if the keyboard and mouse are in the USB port. How can I setup to bootup without keyboard/mouse?
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[13:46] <ShorTie> merkur, just found this if you want to try to duplicate raspbian, http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/copying_debian_package_selections_new_machine
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[13:57] <ShorTie> but since wheezy is sysinit and jessie is systemd, think i'll have to run a diff and pick and choose a few .. :/~
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[14:26] <ShorTie> trying a 'apt-get install lxde --no-install-recommends' sure cut done on the packages
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[20:07] <adsmz> ayy
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[20:08] <adsmz> just got a pi B+ for christmas
[20:11] <ShorTie> Cool
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[21:24] <OldParr> where the official docs are ?
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[21:46] <ShorTie> for ??
[21:48] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org maybe ??
[21:55] <adsmz> I just got mine working
[21:55] <adsmz> after accidentally overwriting my main HDD's partitoon table
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[21:56] <adsmz> gg me
[21:56] <adsmz> I'll try arch again later
[21:56] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have one problem with xbmc, the screen doesnt fit on the monitor. on desktop all is fine.
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[22:05] <ShorTie> you doing arch the new way, or an old image ??
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[22:09] <adsmz> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi I was doing this
[22:09] <adsmz> accidentally put in my hard drive's location
[22:10] <adsmz> raspian uses apt right?
[22:10] <irgendwer4711> yes
[22:12] <ShorTie> if you want and cheat, get the last image and go from there http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/arch/images/arch-2014-06-22/
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[22:22] <adsmz> I do want to cheat yes
[22:26] <ShorTie> as my daddy always says
[22:26] <ShorTie> win if you can
[22:27] <ShorTie> loose if you must
[22:27] <ShorTie> but always cheat
[22:27] <adsmz> this is without any sort of WM yes?
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[22:28] <ShorTie> just basic arch i believe
[22:28] <adsmz> ok
[22:28] <ShorTie> it's only like 200m, so can't be much
[22:29] <adsmz> got ny suggestions for lightweight WMs? I use openbox on the laptop, and it's nice
[22:30] <ShorTie> i'm liking lxde, it is what raspbian is i believe
[22:30] <adsmz> hmmm
[22:30] <adsmz> ok
[22:31] <adsmz> I'll give it a go
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[22:41] <adsmz> ok, installed that arch image
[22:41] <adsmz> it's asking for my alarmpi login
[22:42] <adsmz> confused since I never set anything up
[22:43] <ShorTie> think it is root/root
[22:44] <adsmz> yes
[22:45] <adsmz> no clue where to go from here :9
[22:46] <ShorTie> 'pacman -Syu' should get you upto date
[22:47] <adsmz> running
[22:48] <ShorTie> no clue what you want to do either, lol.
[22:50] <adsmz> get to a point where I can use a mouse :9
[22:51] <adsmz> I should probably go to #archlinux-arm tbh
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[23:06] <adsmz> wow that channel is dead rn
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[23:14] <OldParr> where the official docs are ?
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[23:17] <adsmz> should be on the raspbian site
[23:18] <adsmz> http://raspbian.org/RaspbianDocumentation OldParr
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[23:26] <adsmz> huh
[23:26] <adsmz> lxde on arch also installs openbox
[23:26] <adsmz> ok then
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[23:26] <adsmz> >130 packages
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