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[0:00] <rmc08> vagrantc: what am I looking for in there?
[0:00] <rmc08> I don't see anything pointing to certs
[0:02] <teclo-> rmc08: basically auth.log will list failed and successful logins
[0:02] <vagrantc> the failed ones might give you information about what went wrong
[0:02] <teclo-> rmc08: if you're trying to login through ssh for instance, it will be logged there
[0:03] <teclo-> for instance I'm seeing "Accepted publickey for ..." when I login using ssh and a public key
[0:04] <rmc08> the thing is, my keys are all in the right place
[0:04] <rmc08> but it's not asking for them during login
[0:04] <rmc08> its letting me in with just my pi password
[0:04] <rmc08> "Accepted password for pi from 192.168.1.3 port 59982 ssh2"
[0:04] <gregoa> `ssh -v' or -vv or -vvv might also give you a clue about what's happening
[0:05] <teclo-> rmc08: perhaps didn't you put the keys at the right place...
[0:05] <teclo-> yes, you can also use ssh -v like gregoa says
[0:06] <teclo-> it will probably be easier because you'll see everything you client is trying
[0:06] * vagrantc would recommend jumping straight to -vvv
[0:07] <gregoa> rmc08: how did you put the public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server?
[0:07] <rmc08> I just ran cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh <USERNAME>@<IP-ADDRESS> 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'
[0:07] <rmc08> on my iPhone's terminal
[0:07] <rmc08> and it successfully stored it just now
[0:08] <rmc08> I had copy /pasted it before and tried a command line to see if this would work instead but it shouldn't change anything I dont think
[0:08] <rmc08> let me try ssh -v
[0:08] <gregoa> iphone? keys on the rpi? I'm confused from where to where you want to connect :)
[0:09] <rmc08> I set up keys for each of my devices
[0:09] <rmc08> I'm trying to make the rpi require public keys from each device
[0:09] <rmc08> and I generated some public / private keypairs on my jailbroken iPhone and just added the public key to authorized_keys on my rpi
[0:10] <gregoa> ah, ok. I was confused by the generation of keys on the rpi that you mentioned earlier
[0:11] <rmc08> there's nothing in any settings file that I have to enable for certs to work, is there?
[0:12] <gregoa> not on debian/raspbian, should just work
[0:12] <gregoa> no idea if your iphone uses the key when connecting
[0:12] <rmc08> but shouldnt my rpi be refusing connection w/o the key?
[0:13] <rmc08> it should say at the top when it logs in that it's using a cert, and it does not. I also never typed in the rpi's private key
[0:13] <rmc08> password*
[0:14] <gregoa> in the default config, the sshd on the rpi either uses the key (first) or asks for a passphrase (second)
[0:14] <rmc08> -v is giving me some good info
[0:15] <rmc08> http://pastie.org/9804386
[0:16] <rmc08> gregoa: wait, so it will take either/or then?
[0:16] <rmc08> I need it to require both, mandatory
[0:17] <gregoa> both? you can either use a key or your account password to log in. or do you mean the passphrase of the key? that's also client-side
[0:18] <gregoa> so what the log shows is that the client offers a key, and the server doesn't like it an proposes to go on via password authentication
[0:18] <rmc08> yeah I want it so that a password AND a whitelisted public key is required
[0:19] <rmc08> also yeah the reason that client was rejected is since I didn't add the public key from my ubuntu vm
[0:19] <gregoa> hm, I don't know if that's possible, at least I've never seen it. time for reading man sshd_config :)
[0:19] <gregoa> ok. that makes sense then if the public key is not on the server :)
[0:21] <rmc08> according to debug on my iphone it seems my iphone doesn't want to connect via public key either =/ does the public key have to be named id_rsa?
[0:22] <rmc08> also I think the issue is definitely in the configuration, at least for needing both password and certificate :)
[0:23] <rmc08> aha, renaming it to id_rsa allowed me to connect via cert ^^
[0:24] <gregoa> you can see that names of possible private key files in your earlier paste, and the public key parts are typically the same plus ".pub"
[0:25] <gregoa> just curious but why would you want both the key and the user password? (as opposed to a key with a passphrase e.g.)
[0:25] <rmc08> its more secure isn't it? :)
[0:26] <rmc08> and yeah that was my bad
[0:26] <rmc08> I quickly skimmed it
[0:29] <vagrantc> just put a password on each of your keys and be done with it.
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[0:33] <rmc08> oh I never got to say thank you >.<
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[12:07] <ErfanBs> Hi, which one is better for Raspberry Pi 512MB, Raspbian or Debian ?
[12:11] <ApolloJustice> I just prefer Raspbian because it just works better out of the box, I have a B+
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[12:15] <shiftplusone> ErfanBs: raspbian, no doubt about it.
[12:15] <leio> mainly because debian doesn't work on armv6 at all and isn't a valid choice :D
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[12:17] <ErfanBs> leech started for raspbian :D
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[12:33] <shiftplusone> leio: armel does
[12:34] <leio> oh ok, yes, soft and all that
[12:34] <shiftplusone> typ
[12:34] <shiftplusone> *yup
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[15:17] <sobral> i'm having problems with apt-get on raspbian, I can ping to archive.raspbian.org but "sudo apt-get update" still not working ( Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.)
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[15:22] <sobral> I can ping all the repositories with very low latency, but apt-get update fails completely, anyone can help?
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[16:27] <gax10> evening
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[17:10] <Urbani> I have little problem with RPi mobel b using raspbian, I tried to figure out how I can have audio from mic directly to speakers? Like using RPi as "megafone" because my amplifier doesnt have mic input. I have usb mic and HDMI voice out.
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[17:11] <shiftplusone> when you say mic.... how's thaat connected?
[17:11] <shiftplusone> sorry
[17:11] <shiftplusone> I should've finished reading what you said first >.>
[17:12] <shiftplusone> I think pulseaudio might a starting point, but I'm not sure about the best approach
[17:13] <shiftplusone> Yup.... google seems to agree that pulseaudio is the way to go
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[17:14] <Urbani> I have tried to install pulseaudio for hours and its not working for now
[17:14] <Urbani> It starts, pacmd works but pactl gives me an error everytime..
[17:15] <shiftplusone> yup.... sounds like linux audio alright... I try not to touch the stuff.
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[17:22] <Urbani> I have avoided it years but now I have to
[17:23] <Urbani> Because.. Wife says so
[17:24] <Urbani> I founded this with google and I want do same thing exept not transferring sound via ssh just play it back immediatly
[17:24] <Urbani> arecord -D plughw:1,0 -f dat | ssh -C user@remoteip aplay -f dat
[17:25] <Urbani> Im in wrong direction if I want use something like this?
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[18:35] <And_prog_desaste> hi all i need help to get a non keybord non display system runing a bash sh on startup
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[18:36] <And_prog_desaste> so fa all works fine on monitor and keyboard
[18:37] <And_prog_desaste> but how do i manage that as a just start on power
[18:38] <shiftplusone> make it a service or add it to rc.local
[18:39] <And_prog_desaste> will google for that
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[19:02] <And_prog_desaste> im not gettinh it nano /etc/inittab
[19:02] <And_prog_desaste> there is a line for #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1
[19:03] <And_prog_desaste> this is not the last
[19:03] <And_prog_desaste> the lgin shoudt be the last as far as i think on startup
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[19:03] <And_prog_desaste> last line is T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyAMA0 115200 vt100
[19:03] <Getty> hu?
[19:03] <Getty> wait wait
[19:04] <Getty> the ordering position or whatever in the inittab is irrelevant
[19:04] <And_prog_desaste> ok
[19:04] <Getty> the first thing that is on is "tty1"
[19:04] <Getty> so if you remove the getty on tty1 you have no login anymore
[19:04] <Getty> at least on the first console ;)
[19:04] <Getty> if you dont remove it on 2 and 3 or so, you can stil go there
[19:04] <Getty> whatever its all pretty logical :)
[19:05] <Getty> you want to run something like on startup?
[19:05] <Getty> no i mean, like on the screen
[19:05] <Getty> so that its there
[19:05] <And_prog_desaste> yes i want to get a wlan gridge
[19:05] <And_prog_desaste> it works perfect
[19:05] <And_prog_desaste> but i need to get keyboard an monitor to log i and start the sh
[19:05] <And_prog_desaste> this is now to get rid of
[19:06] <Getty> yeah with the #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1 you deactivated it
[19:06] <Getty> just remove the #
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[19:06] <Getty> then you got it back
[19:06] <Getty> just make "init q" after it, then you dont need to restart
[19:06] <And_prog_desaste> i want to only get power plug in and system goes on
[19:07] <Getty> yeah thats already given so or so
[19:07] <Getty> linux system barly deny to startup ;-)
[19:07] <And_prog_desaste> but ssh putty asks for login
[19:07] <Getty> noone wants one who doesnt! :D
[19:07] <Getty> you mean, if you ssh to the system it asks for a login? yeah sure, it must do so
[19:07] <And_prog_desaste> ok
[19:08] <And_prog_desaste> i added that line 1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f pi tty1 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
[19:08] <Getty> hu?!.... why
[19:08] <Getty> thats what getty is for
[19:08] <Getty> you just leave the getty there as it was
[19:08] <And_prog_desaste> http://www.opentechguides.com/how-to/article/raspberry-pi/5/raspberry-pi-auto-start.html
[19:08] <Getty> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1
[19:08] <Getty> instead of
[19:08] <And_prog_desaste> folowed that
[19:08] <Getty> #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1
[19:09] <And_prog_desaste> ok
[19:09] <Getty> holy shit
[19:09] <Getty> fuck that howto
[19:09] <And_prog_desaste> restarting raspberry
[19:09] <Getty> i mean if you want to "display" something on it you can do it more directly
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[19:09] <And_prog_desaste> no display
[19:10] <And_prog_desaste> yust garden wlanbridge
[19:10] <Getty> then you might have a startup of the X environment and that is overloading the screen
[19:10] <Getty> and this one is wrong configured for some reason
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[19:11] <Getty> no idea what the hell you did before hehe ;-)
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[19:12] <And_prog_desaste> it has been realy easy to that point img on SD raspconfig get dnsmasq copy wlanbridge script plug the wlan restart plug the eth accesspoint and it workt perfect
[19:13] <Getty> but you had all the time just a blank screen on the HDMI?
[19:13] <And_prog_desaste> no all fine
[19:13] <Getty> and SUDDENLY it disappeared?
[19:13] <And_prog_desaste> no
[19:13] <Getty> you confuse me!
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[19:13] <And_prog_desaste> i just want to get it run without anything
[19:14] <Gamodr> Hi everyone, what is the best WLAN Adapter not requiring a powered usb hub (B+) working perfectly in AP mode?
[19:14] <Getty> "run" is no clean definition
[19:14] <Getty> you want something to run
[19:14] <And_prog_desaste> so rasperian without keybord mouse hdmi YUST plug in and wlan goes to access point ICS
[19:14] <Getty> you have a script that setups something and you want that executed on startup so that the raspberry is directly configured
[19:14] <Getty> yes
[19:14] <Getty> thats normal
[19:14] <Getty> for this you dont need to login
[19:14] <Getty> there is a COMPLETE WORLD behind that login: prompt running
[19:14] <Getty> you dont need to autologin to let it do something
[19:15] <Getty> it DOES already a shitload of stuff without you logging in
[19:15] <Getty> and oyu can add stuff to that list, like shiftplusone told you
[19:15] <Getty> via rc.local
[19:15] <Getty> just edit /etc/rc.local and add wnat you want to run on startup before the exit 0
[19:16] <And_prog_desaste> Gamod logilink wl0084B
[19:16] <And_prog_desaste> Gamod i use them all on my 16 Tractors and harverster to get location transmited
[19:16] <Getty> you should really try to understand more first what a linux system is ;)
[19:16] <Getty> yeah blabla, you still miss ground understandment
[19:16] <Getty> what you want is just adding some startup stuff to rc.local, thats all
[19:17] <Getty> which was already told to you several times
[19:17] <Getty> if this is really to hard to understand then please go back a step and learn how a linux works
[19:17] <And_prog_desaste> Getty im getting it
[19:17] <Getty> i hope ;)
[19:17] <Getty> cause i dont explain it ;)
[19:17] <And_prog_desaste> so only the rc.local gets me to that
[19:17] <Getty> there are 982759324328742 ways
[19:17] <Getty> but you would know this
[19:17] <Getty> if you would understand the concepts of linux
[19:17] <Getty> (see step A)
[19:18] <shiftplusone> well.... 3 legitimate ways and only 2 of them are standard >_<
[19:18] <Getty> rc.local is already the lazy people version, real men add an init script
[19:18] <Getty> just saying ;)
[19:19] <shiftplusone> meh, real men are overrated. rc.local gets the job done without all the faffing about >.>
[19:19] <Getty> ........... if i would be dead i would turn in my grave now ;)
[19:20] <shiftplusone> I suppose you could just roll over, but that would be a very uncomfortable way to sit.
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[19:20] <Getty> there was a time where we valued the unix system we administrated
[19:20] <Getty> but i am getting old and people get lazy.... and rc.local gets famous
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[19:21] <shiftplusone> Oh, I wouldn't do it on a system I care about. If it's worth doing right, I'd definitely write an init script for it.
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[19:22] <haruspexx> hi
[19:22] <Getty> see, then dont say so evil things like "gets the job done".... thats culture violation ;)
[19:22] <shiftplusone> But nowadays, I often just need to test something or have some other temporary thing I need to run on boot a few times on a card that I'll be re-imaging later anyway.
[19:22] <haruspexx> just got my new raspberry model b+
[19:22] <shiftplusone> haruspexx, hello and congratulations.
[19:23] <Getty> haruspexx: already years old stuff, noone uses it anymore! you are late! ;-)
[19:23] <haruspexx> what is the default password for root user?
[19:23] <Getty> haruspexx: joke!
[19:23] <haruspexx> i know the pw for the pi user
[19:23] <haruspexx> ^only
[19:23] <shiftplusone> haruspexx, the default password is there is no password, you need to set one from the pi user
[19:23] <Getty> and then you could sudo passwd root ;)
[19:24] <haruspexx> ok thx
[19:24] <Getty> sudo is also one of those...... things i dont like about the modern linux hipsters
[19:24] <haruspexx> sudo -s
[19:24] <haruspexx> :)
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[19:24] <Getty> if a user account can execute something as root, in my eyes then its already a security problem, BUT WHAT I SAY! ;-)
[19:25] <Getty> i am old, so just ignore my grumble
[19:25] * shiftplusone installs systemd and Unity on Getty's system.
[19:25] <And_prog_desaste> haruspexx: what img did you put on the sd
[19:25] <Getty> shiftplusone: i hope you die a painful death
[19:25] <shiftplusone> hehe
[19:25] <haruspexx> ok i see .. so it means that .. originally raspian is not thought to be run with a root user..�
[19:26] <haruspexx> ?
[19:26] <kingi> i never understood the linux design in that
[19:26] <And_prog_desaste> pi raspberry
[19:26] <Getty> if someone likes systemd, he should leave the job and try to become kindergärtner so he can be together with people of his mental age
[19:26] <shiftplusone> haruspexx, it just takes an ubuntu-ism where you'd just use sudo rather than ever logging in as root. It's stupid, but.... seems to be the way it is.
[19:26] <And_prog_desaste> haruspexx: in europ the y is a z
[19:26] <Getty> its just ubuntu culture and sadly took over the raspberry culture
[19:27] <Getty> sudo is not common everywhere else, not in this way
[19:27] <Getty> i also dont get why its at all on raspbian as its not on debian
[19:27] <Getty> oh oh i forgot, arch... they also have eaten the sudo culture AFAIR
[19:27] <shiftplusone> eh?
[19:27] <shiftplusone> Arch?
[19:27] <Getty> arch
[19:28] <shiftplusone> I don't think Arch even comes with sudo installed
[19:28] <Getty> oh yeah not by default, its arch ;) nothing is default really
[19:28] <shiftplusone> but I might be wrong on that one
[19:28] <Getty> but by documentations
[19:28] <vagrantc> Getty: enough with attacking people with different ideas of what's right...
[19:28] <Getty> AFAIR the documentations mostly go the sudo ways.. no wait.. stop.. i mix something up here
[19:28] <Getty> i dont mean arch
[19:28] <Getty> i mean...
[19:28] * shiftplusone checks the wiki.
[19:28] <Getty> fuck what was it....
[19:28] <Getty> this self compiler linux
[19:28] <Getty> right right
[19:28] <shiftplusone> gentoo?
[19:29] <Getty> yes!
[19:29] <Getty> i forgot their name... wow
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[19:29] <Getty> does that mean something?
[19:29] <shiftplusone> happens at.... advanced age. >.>
[19:29] <Getty> + weed
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[19:30] <And_prog_desaste> i try to build up a 10mil biogasplant network to monitor the hole harvest with raspberry
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[19:31] <And_prog_desaste> harvester and farmtraktors already run on gps raspberry
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[19:31] <And_prog_desaste> and cheep 20USD chinese 4.2 tablets
[19:31] <Getty> Oh, i am actually developer of electronics specific for bio-related topics
[19:31] <Getty> so if you want a serious solution, hire us :) but i think you are on a good path if you can solve it yourself with the raspberry
[19:32] <shiftplusone> Checked the gentoo handbooks... don't see sudo being mentioned there.
[19:32] <Getty> no?
[19:32] <Getty> <scratchhead>
[19:32] <And_prog_desaste> Getty: i paid 15.000EUR for a fail harvest so i desided to do somthing
[19:32] <Getty> good point, yeah, its a hard topic, we really wanna do more but its hard to get people who want to invest in technology
[19:33] <And_prog_desaste> orderd 50 android at 20USD etch
[19:33] <shiftplusone> Well, I guess there's a little bit of that. the livecd they provide requires you to run sudo -i
[19:33] <Getty> we already made a produt for end-customer for aquarium management
[19:33] <shiftplusone> and near the end they write "If a user ever needs to perform some task as root, they can use su - to temporarily receive root privileges. Another way is to use the sudo package which is, if correctly configured, very secure."
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[19:33] <Getty> but none was bought........ then we have one version for breeder and still not mch feedback ;)
[19:33] <And_prog_desaste> now all vihicles get mad as they drive on a wrong field
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[19:33] <Getty> shiftplusone: you are right, all docu is without sudo
[19:34] <Getty> shiftplusone: so its REALLY just disgusting ubuntu culture?
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[19:34] <Getty> and_prog_desaste: holy shit 8-)
[19:34] <And_prog_desaste> ok i hacked alot today i will be back soon bye from germany
[19:34] <Getty> and_prog_desaste: hey
[19:34] <Getty> and_prog_desaste: ia m also in germany
[19:34] <shiftplusone> take care
[19:34] <Getty> and_prog_desaste: so if you want to link up, just msg me in german and we might can really help
[19:34] <And_prog_desaste> gety querry
[19:47] <vagrantc> Getty: could you please state your opinions without being disrespectful?
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[19:48] <Getty> vagrantc: you mean about systemd people? want to make a serious discussion about systemd?
[19:49] <vagrantc> Getty: systemd, sudo, ubuntu ... you've made several inflammatory comments without really contributing meaningfully to any discussion
[19:50] <Getty> wow ;) so you dont want opinions at all, just facts, ok, get it, wow ;)
[19:50] <Getty> so this channel will also die of lonelineness (thats a fact no opinion)
[19:51] <shiftplusone> All the systemd discussions have already been had. If Arch, Debian and kernel devs don't have a problem with it, then...
[19:51] <vagrantc> Getty: no, but "disgusting ubuntu culture" and "try to become kindergärtner so he can be together with people of his mental age" are out of line.
[19:52] <vagrantc> i think there are plenty of people capable of discussing dissenting ideas without resorting to insults.
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[19:52] <Getty> vagrantc: yeah those are my opinions ;) the kindergärtner is hard but hey, systemd is like exactly that level of sanity, so....
[19:52] <vagrantc> so i have no fear of this channel being condemned to lonliness.
[19:53] <Getty> systemd people are already insulting by challenging the concept in the way they do it
[19:53] <vagrantc> Getty: enough with the trolling.
[19:55] <Getty> its no trolling, sorry, you are misusing the word, but its a strong opinion, i see that this might offend someone
[19:55] <Getty> trolling would be doing it just for making the stress
[19:55] <Getty> so please, use proper wording if you want to put me in fences
[19:55] <vagrantc> Getty: i do not believe that you are doing anything but intentionally trying to offend people.
[19:56] <kingi> ops on freenode are famous for being autistic and generally not understanding words and people
[19:56] <Getty> vagrantc: ?!?!?! i really hope that noone in here is actually a systemd friend, and i was just saying that as general statement
[19:56] <Getty> vagrantc: i am not going to #systemd and say that, that would be trolling
[19:58] <shiftplusone> well, that all took an ugly turn. I appreciate vagrantc's effort to restore some civility though. =/
[19:59] <Getty> yeah back to join/leave flood ;-)
[19:59] <vagrantc> Getty: i consider it wildly off-topic to rant about systemd, sudo, ubuntu on #raspbian. you expressed "opinions" in using insulting language. it is unnacceptable.
[19:59] <vagrantc> Getty: so, adapt, or go elsewhere.
[19:59] <Getty> yeah sorry to bring in offtopic, was a common culture always on irc to chat a bit on flow
[19:59] <Getty> but that culture died totally
[20:00] <Getty> zombie ready for answering next support question!
[20:01] <vagrantc> a little off-topic is one thing, pushing some agenda is another...
[20:01] <Getty> i dont push an agenda, i just felt to vent about it in the context of the sudo culture whcih i find a high security risk
[20:01] <Getty> which sounds for me pretty near, but whatever, i know all to far already
[20:02] * vagrantc nods
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[20:23] <diederik> regarding sudo: If you don't specify a root user while installing Debian (with d-i), sudo gets used.
[20:23] <diederik> And sudo itself is not an issue, it's actually a rather powerful tool.
[20:24] <diederik> But when you blindly do "ALL (ALL)" (or however it is specified) with no password ... then yeah, I'd consider that a security issue too
[20:24] <diederik> s/root user/root password/
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[22:30] <Mom_> anybody here?
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