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[1:29] <RyRys> Hey, could anyone help me with my B+ and VNC, I can't get it to start on boot automatically :/
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[1:49] <sine0> hi there has anyone run apache with virtual hosts on a pi b+ could it handle it? (low traffic startup pages)
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[1:56] <lanodan> My Pi B can handle it so why not the B+
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[2:13] <sine0> how many sites do you have on it
[2:13] <sine0> or was it just a test
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[2:24] <RyRys> I can't work out how to install more modules for python on my b+
[2:25] <RyRys> On windows I use the pip library to do cmd then pip install library
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[2:34] <lost_soul> RyRys: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/software/python.md
[2:34] <lost_soul> is that of any help?
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[2:36] <RyRys> lost_soul ty, that looks like it'll help a lot.
[2:38] <lost_soul> good to hear it
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[2:50] <RyRys> lost_soul you have any idea about VNC, I've tried using http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/ but the auto-run script part just doesnt work
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[3:10] <lost_soul> RyRys: I don't use VNC, sorry.
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[7:27] <RyRys> Anyone able to advise on pip for python... I try and install a module using "pip install beautifulsoup4" for example and it errors out, but doing this on windows works fine.
[7:29] <lost_soul> what is the error... it may help someone be able to help you
[7:29] <RyRys> The error I get for requests is the following: http://pastebin.com/Q3NTH56P
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[7:31] <lost_soul> RyRys: it's saying permission denied to create something, try with elevated privledges
[7:33] <lost_soul> RyRys: try to either put sudo before the command you are using... or do sudo su which should put you at a prompt that is a # (root prompt) and then try the command again
[7:33] <RyRys> I'm running with su atm, as that's what I thought you meant by elevated.
[7:34] <lost_soul> RyRys: good, yes it is
[7:35] <RyRys> Ahh, yeah it worked perfectly. Cheers lost_soul
[7:35] <lost_soul> RyRys: glad it is sorted
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[7:43] <RyRys> lost_soul I spent a while trying to work it out ^_^
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[7:47] <lost_soul> RyRys: the answer is almost always in the error or a log somewhere
[7:48] <RyRys> Running a test script that takes 30~mins to run, comparing how fast/slow the pi can do it compared to my pc. I think the speed difference is harddrive (read/write) related atm for this script
[7:48] <RyRys> ssd vs class 4 sdcard
[7:49] <lost_soul> RyRys: the OS of the pi needs to run off the sdcard, however some people have noticed a speed increase running some things off of usb so you might want to give that a try
[7:50] <RyRys> Hmm, I tried to mount a sdcard via a cardreader but it never worked for me
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[7:50] <lost_soul> er, didn't work for you... meaning what
[7:50] <lost_soul> what error, or what happened
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[7:51] <RyRys> No error, nothing happened. I just took it as it doesn't like sdcards/cardreaders
[7:51] <lost_soul> I've never tried one on the pi, but in all honesty it should work
[7:52] <lost_soul> when you want to try again pull up a dmesg to see if it is seen and such
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[7:54] <RyRys> I just used a diff cardreader and it said: http://i.imgur.com/grhmyBn.png
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[7:55] <RyRys> however it's visible in the file explorer
[7:55] <lost_soul> open up a terminal if you would please
[7:56] <lost_soul> type in df -h and paste the output for me
[7:56] <lost_soul> you can also do a dmesg but from what you said it seems as if the card reader is functioning properly
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[8:24] <RyRys> It looks correct in df -h (I know this part of android because of android) lol
[8:25] <lost_soul> so it's showing as being mounted and everything... can you access it without getting an error box
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[8:38] <RyRys> The error pops up every time i insert it, everything works fine after the first popup lol
[8:39] <lost_soul> just a glitch with the automount... I doubt it will be to difficult to fix
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[10:05] <Bierdieb_pi> o/ ahoi. just have some trouble starting xbmc, which i just straight installed from the repos. maybe one might have an idea? http://paste.debian.net/139013/ and the log log: http://paste.debian.net/139014/
[10:06] <Bierdieb_pi> using raspbian jessie....
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[10:15] <lost_soul> Bierdieb_pi: wouldn't it be easier to use OE or raspbmc since they actually work and are optimized to run xmbc?
[10:16] <Bierdieb_pi> well yeah. i have another installation with the actual oe5 and its great. but still. id like to run it on top of raspbian.
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[10:17] <lost_soul> google has some hits on the error.. not sure if they are applicable considering we're using it on arm
[10:18] <Bierdieb_pi> and for my opinion, installing it straight from the repo it should work... and if not, it might be only a little nasty thing to change it. therefor im asking for help.
[10:19] <lost_soul> I agree that it should work, are you using the latest raspbian that came out a short while ago or the older version
[10:20] <lost_soul> if you are on the newer one... did you try on the older to see if it would install (perhaps it is a recent change to raspbian itself that messed things up)
[10:23] <Bierdieb_pi> well, im using jessie up to date. and i didnt try it on wheezy
[10:23] <Bierdieb_pi> in a forum there is the same error, the guy is mentioned to Turn off software upsampling. but how?
[10:27] <lost_soul> well, logically if it won't even run and they indicate you can turn it off... it must be available to do so via a command line switch
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[10:27] <lost_soul> anything in the manual pages for it
[10:29] <Bierdieb_pi> ill have a deeper look in there
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[12:33] <- *mpmc* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[14:05] <Bierdieb_> im trying to make xbmc run on top of jessie all the day. now ive setup a clean new installation of wheezy to check if it runs there. http://paste.debian.net/139030/ is the message. is there a workaround, is it possible to force installation of the required packages or will it break something else?
[14:06] <ApolloJustice> why don't you use OpenELEC or RaspBMC?
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[14:07] <Halbard> Hi, I apparently damaged my package system and ended up with "cc: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction (program cc1)". Is there a way to fix that.
[14:09] <Bierdieb_> because OE and pBMC are ONLY for running xbmc. but i need more functionality but dont want to miss xbmc.
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[14:09] <Bierdieb_> its in the repo, so there must be a way to make it run....?
[14:09] <shiftplusone> Bierdieb_, this is how sane people do it. http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
[14:10] <shiftplusone> just because something is in the repo doesn't mean it works
[14:10] <shiftplusone> it just means the package from debian armhf compiles without too much trouble.
[14:11] <Bierdieb_> lol.... why am i insane?^^ im just trying to make a repo package run.... thx for the hind :shiftplusone
[14:13] <shiftplusone> I didn't say you were insane. I don't have the qualifications to make that claim, but I do know what sane people do if they want to install xbmc on raspbian. =P
[14:13] <Bierdieb_> will xbmc receive updates and stuff when installed that way?
[14:14] <Bierdieb_> hrhr^^ saving time is always a good invest.
[14:15] <shiftplusone> No idea, I'd just install openelec separately and boot into it when I need it, but meh.
[14:16] <Bierdieb_> thank you well!
[14:16] <shiftplusone> Sorry, I know it's not very helpful for what you're trying to do.
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[14:27] <Bierdieb_> The user which you're going to run XBMC as needs to be a member of the following groups: audio video input dialout plugdev tty ----> how to check the group memberships of my user?
[14:32] <Halbard> type 'id' in console
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[15:01] <Bierdieb_> thx so far. michael gorven is a hero! Cool, cool, cool.
[15:02] <Bierdieb_> is there a kind of elegant way to backup whole sd-card while the system is running?
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[15:59] <rockstar_> Have anyone tried to torrent in raspbian, and leave it downloading even after closing ssh?
[16:02] <shiftplusone> sure
[16:06] <Odie_> screen+ssh = win
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[16:16] <_2_desktop2005> hi
[16:16] <_2_desktop2005> :D
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[16:24] <angasule__> Odie_: I'm liking tmux over screen these days, but at work I have neither and that's just insanity
[16:35] <Odie_> angasule__: I hadn't heard about tmux earlier. sure sounds like a screen replacement
[16:36] <angasule__> Odie_: yeap, screen is a bit rough around the edges, tmux has no downsides for me
[16:36] <Odie_> I'd think both are huge improvement for cmd line, after that initial jump, its just smaller details
[16:37] <Odie_> for example you can run same screen on multiple terminals
[16:37] <Odie_> but if you dont know either, it might not be bad idea to start from tmux
[16:37] <Odie_> i'm old dog, so screen for me
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[17:49] <gordonDrogon> I gave up on screen when I could launch many terminals and telnet/rsh/ssh in from each one...
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[17:54] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, but then if your connection drops bad things happen =/
[17:55] <gordonDrogon> connection drops... what does that mean?
[17:55] <shiftplusone> Ey, i've see you get disconnected before!
[17:55] <gordonDrogon> :-)
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> it's not an issue on my LAN and for remote stuff - I have fixed IP addresses. There is usually only one thing I remotely ssh into though.
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[19:12] <shiftplusone> heh
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[19:13] <hdurr> will provide ballgags (only slighly used). BYOL.
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[19:19] <kcaj2> Does anybody know how the mirror director works?
[19:20] <kcaj2> I'm interested in setting up my own mirror but am only going to do so if the mirror will see some traffic. Does the director send traffic to random/appropriate mirrors or would I only see traffic if someone actually opts to use my mirror manually?
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[20:12] <fnawothnig> hey. i did some somewhat .. brave .. things when i initially installed my system and i pretty much broke it by doing nothing but apt-get update/upgrade + rpi-update ... i'm looking for a way to get it to properly boot again (i can boot it .. not-properly ;)
[20:13] <fnawothnig> as the list of stuff i did is somewhat longer i do ask-to-ask - would someone take a look at my actions / situations and maybe suggest on how to solve it? :)
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[20:36] <shiftplusone> fnawothnig, what happens when you boot it?
[20:37] <shiftplusone> and what was the first error you saw? did apt-get complete without errors? did rpi-update run without errors too?
[20:37] <shiftplusone> finally, did you reboot properly (without yanking the power cable out) after you ran those commands.
[20:41] <fnawothnig> shiftplusone: the usb controller recognizes all attached devices, but disconnects everything then and right now it looks like it shuts down and no longer does anything
[20:41] <fnawothnig> (which is somewhat different from my experiences yesterday)
[20:41] <fnawothnig> and wait - i'm writing down the complete story on pastie ;)
[20:42] <fnawothnig> yep
[20:42] <shiftplusone> is it a B+?
[20:43] <fnawothnig> yes, but same results on A (second gen)
[20:43] <fnawothnig> well
[20:43] <fnawothnig> okay
[20:43] <fnawothnig> wait for the story :)
[20:43] <fnawothnig> i'm also uploading a complete bootlog of course
[20:43] <fnawothnig> (serial console attached)
[20:44] <shiftplusone> does the red LED remain constantly on throughout all these shenanigans?
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[20:44] <shiftplusone> (without ever flickering)
[20:44] <fnawothnig> yes. i'm using a high-quality power source and i'm using some gatched to monitor voltage/current
[20:44] <fnawothnig> gatched?
[20:44] <fnawothnig> wrong word
[20:45] <shiftplusone> K, I'll wait for the novel.
[20:45] <fnawothnig> well. thingie :)
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[20:46] <ShorTie> think i'd get rid of that gatched and hookup direct
[20:47] <adsmz> I'm trying to install xbmc on a fresh raspbian install... it's not finding the 'deb' command
[20:47] <fnawothnig> (and using high-quality thick short cables)
[20:48] <shiftplusone> adsmz, what's telling you to run a 'deb' command... that's not a thing.
[20:48] <adsmz> http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
[20:48] <adsmz> oh wait I see
[20:48] <shiftplusone> adsmz, re-read the instructions carefully
[20:48] <adsmz> I misread yeah
[20:48] <shiftplusone> excellent =)
[20:49] <fnawothnig> had much bad experiences with model a in the past - figured out that it was _all_ related to these things... with a good power source + cable even a runs stable, no matter what you do with the usb ports (assuming you are using a powered usb hub, which also shouldn't be the cheapest one.. found a manufacturer who provides all of this :)
[20:49] <fnawothnig> *even model a
[20:50] <fnawothnig> oh this time i got those weird error messages
[20:50] <fnawothnig> nice.
[20:50] <fnawothnig> for my pastie.
[20:50] <fnawothnig> (last boot attempts it disconnected for no reason)
[20:51] <fnawothnig> and thank god for buspirate.
[20:51] <fnawothnig> i don't know how i lived without that thing. ;)
[20:52] <fnawothnig> so, first of all, my boot log:
[20:52] <fnawothnig> http://pastie.org/private/au14nyofahi42djabs6xw
[20:53] <fnawothnig> things break down at line 219 i guess
[20:53] <fnawothnig> now, back to my story. ;)
[20:54] <shiftplusone> Linux version 3.10.28dev3+ =/
[20:54] <fnawothnig> yes. as i said. there is a story ;)
[20:54] <shiftplusone> I'll probably be tuning out, since it doesn't sound like a supported use case to me.
[20:55] <fnawothnig> of course it's not supported
[20:55] <fnawothnig> but hey
[20:55] <fnawothnig> maybe you are interested in figuring out a solution for an interesting problem? ;)
[20:55] <fnawothnig> I'm not asking for official support here
[20:55] <shiftplusone> Well, that rules me out then =P
[20:56] <fnawothnig> you could at least read the story so you know what i did :P
[20:56] <shiftplusone> I will after you finish the manifesto.
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[20:58] <fnawothnig> http://pastie.org/private/t8hapxno13dk9vgimfqq
[21:00] <fnawothnig> well, there is one thing to correct
[21:00] <fnawothnig> that i don't have the modules is not a bug - you only get them when installing the specific package maybe
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[21:01] <shiftplusone> if you ran rpi-update, you should have the modules as well
[21:01] <shiftplusone> you can pop the card into your pc and run rpi-update with BOOT_PATH and ROOT_PATH env vars set correctly to try again.
[21:02] <fnawothnig> huh?
[21:02] <fnawothnig> "pop the card my pc"
[21:02] <fnawothnig> hm
[21:02] <fnawothnig> how can i run rpi-update then? ;)
[21:03] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update#installing-under-other-oses
[21:03] <fnawothnig> uhm
[21:03] <fnawothnig> what will that do?
[21:03] <fnawothnig> hm
[21:04] <fnawothnig> i suppose it will give me a kernel, an initramfs and modules?
[21:04] <fnawothnig> and firmware, tht is
[21:04] <shiftplusone> no need for initramfs
[21:04] <shiftplusone> and there isn't one included
[21:04] <fnawothnig> hm
[21:04] <fnawothnig> well
[21:04] <fnawothnig> so that's the problem.
[21:04] <shiftplusone> but aside from the firmware it will also update some pi-specific userland stuff
[21:04] <fnawothnig> i need initramfs to boot ;)
[21:05] <shiftplusone> why's that?
[21:05] <fnawothnig> rootfs is btrfs
[21:05] <shiftplusone> I thought you wrote you switched to ext
[21:05] <shiftplusone> and the official kernel doesn't have btrfs compiled in?
[21:06] <fnawothnig> huh? no, i switched from ext4 to btrfs after settings all of this up
[21:06] <fnawothnig> nope
[21:06] <fnawothnig> which is really questionable
[21:06] <shiftplusone> well, best of luck.
[21:07] <fnawothnig> i think btrfs is the only FS which should be used for devices like the pi, which experience hard shutdowns and removed sd cards while the system is running ,)
[21:07] <fnawothnig> (at least that is what i do sometimes - as btrfs protects me from any fs damage..)
[21:07] <fnawothnig> okay
[21:07] <fnawothnig> but one question
[21:07] <fnawothnig> the last line in my pastie
[21:08] <fnawothnig> "the new firmware is probably not backwards compatible with my old kernel and breaks the usb controller"
[21:08] <fnawothnig> reasonable assumption?
[21:09] <shiftplusone> I'd treat it as a possibility rather than assume it to be true. But if you had eth working on a B+ then you firmware would've been very recent anyway.
[21:09] <fnawothnig> i wasn't
[21:10] <fnawothnig> i never upgraded
[21:10] <fnawothnig> *it
[21:10] <shiftplusone> do you have raspberrypi-bootloader installed?
[21:10] <shiftplusone> the package
[21:10] <fnawothnig> i have no
[21:10] <fnawothnig> i have now
[21:10] <fnawothnig> oh.
[21:10] <fnawothnig> i can force reinstallation
[21:11] <shiftplusone> so.... you had it installed before?
[21:11] <fnawothnig> don't think so
[21:11] <shiftplusone> ... then how can you force reinstallation of something you didn't have =S
[21:11] <fnawothnig> na i mean
[21:11] <fnawothnig> i didn't have it 1 week ago
[21:11] <fnawothnig> but i think i installed it during the upgrade process yesterday
[21:12] <fnawothnig> and i see that /lib/modules/*/* belongs to that package
[21:12] <fnawothnig> along with the firmware
[21:12] <fnawothnig> hm.
[21:12] <fnawothnig> okay
[21:12] <fnawothnig> what about this...
[21:12] <fnawothnig> i forgot the name
[21:12] <shiftplusone> Then you must've uninstalled it in the past.... I'm thinking that it's more likely that you didn't know it was installed and your firmware was automatically updated.
[21:12] <fnawothnig> but there is a tool to hot-boot kernels
[21:13] <fnawothnig> does the rasperrian kernel support that? ;)
[21:13] <shiftplusone> because I assure you that Ethernet would not work with old firmware on a B+, the routing has changed.
[21:13] <shiftplusone> hot-boot as in kexec?
[21:13] <fnawothnig> ah yea. kexec.
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[21:13] <shiftplusone> It doesn't really work properly
[21:13] <fnawothnig> of course not
[21:14] <fnawothnig> but it might work somewhat
[21:14] <shiftplusone> the kernel boots and appears to work, but as soon as you try to do gpu-related stuff, things go wrong.
[21:14] <fnawothnig> hm
[21:14] <fnawothnig> raspberrypi-bootloader includes btrfs
[21:14] <fnawothnig> as i don't use the hdmi output...
[21:15] <fnawothnig> my idea is to force-reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader which will give me firmware+kernel and the btrfs module
[21:15] <fnawothnig> but i still need to run update-initramfs
[21:15] <shiftplusone> CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=m
[21:16] <shiftplusone> yeah... or just compile btrfs into the kernel
[21:16] <fnawothnig> which will only work properly if i boot from the kernel from raspberrypi-bootloader
[21:16] <shiftplusone> or.... better yet.... use the raspbian kernel rather than the foundation kernel
[21:16] <fnawothnig> so i could kexec into that kernel
[21:16] <shiftplusone> this will generate initramfs and everything
[21:16] <fnawothnig> and then run initramfs-update ;)
[21:16] <fnawothnig> kexec is not installed. sad.
[21:17] <fnawothnig> well.
[21:17] <fnawothnig> i could try to force-reinstallation of raspberrypi-bootloader
[21:17] <fnawothnig> actually
[21:18] <fnawothnig> yea. update-initramfs works for all installed kernels
[21:20] <fnawothnig> so.. how do i force conf + install for an already installed package... (yes. i am googling. just typing my thoughts ;)
[21:20] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's something I tend to google, but iirc it's something like --reinstall
[21:21] <fnawothnig> yea.. i think i'll go for dpkg --force-all -i
[21:22] <fnawothnig> i have so many funny things on that box..
[21:23] <fnawothnig> rm: cannot remove `/boot/bootcode.bin': Read-only file system
[21:23] <fnawothnig> ^ y�ou really should remount,rw in the package script.
[21:25] <fnawothnig> especially as unattended-upgrades could possibly break things?
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[21:26] <fnawothnig> also... a bootloader supporting the rs-232 pins to choose kernels would be nice :D
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[21:27] <fnawothnig> okay. i guess my firmware is compatible to the kernel now.
[21:28] <shiftplusone> rs232 involves crazy voltages, so I guess you're just talking about UART.
[21:28] <fnawothnig> eh, right
[21:28] <fnawothnig> sorry. as i said. bus pirate. ;)
[21:29] <ShorTie> force-reinstallation of raspberrypi-bootloader, sounds like writing a new image to me
[21:29] <fnawothnig> but true... rs232 isn't really used anywhere in this area
[21:29] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, in what way?
[21:30] <shiftplusone> fnawothnig, how would the bootloader use uart? Wait for you to issue a command or something?
[21:30] <ShorTie> just sounds the best to me i guess
[21:30] <fnawothnig> shiftplusone: yea?
[21:31] <fnawothnig> ShorTie: followed by generating an initramfs
[21:31] <shiftplusone> fnawothnig, and.... if you want to boot normally without pausing things to wait for stuff from UART?
[21:31] <fnawothnig> shiftplusone: with a timeout of course
[21:31] <fnawothnig> right now you have to switch cards
[21:32] <fnawothnig> just to change from a very small selection of lines in a few files
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[21:32] <fnawothnig> (cmdline.txt and the kernel and initramfs lines in config.txt... at least that's it for me right now)
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[21:33] <fnawothnig> ... the has to know some FAT anyway. could aswell provide an editor for those files ;)
[21:33] <fnawothnig> just a crazy idea.
[21:34] <fnawothnig> won't file a feature request. if it's possible maybe i'll work on it when i'm bored ,)
[21:35] <ShorTie> can't just have 2 cmdline.txt files and copy them back and forth ??
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[21:35] <ShorTie> and then reboot
[21:36] <fnawothnig> i'd still need to switch cards
[21:36] <fnawothnig> i'm talking about the case when it no longer boots
[21:36] <fnawothnig> well. okay. stuff is done.
[21:36] <fnawothnig> time for finger crossing and a reboot
[21:37] <shiftplusone> you're really describing NOOBS there.
[21:37] <fnawothnig> as it hangs it's looking good
[21:38] <fnawothnig> but still not sure if it just crashed
[21:38] <fnawothnig> or is really mounting the almost-64gb btrfs partition ;)
[21:38] <fnawothnig> hm
[21:39] <fnawothnig> no mention of initramfs having been loaded through
[21:39] <fnawothnig> strangely it just hangs now after detecting the ethernet device
[21:39] <fnawothnig> no error message
[21:40] <fnawothnig> so it looks like the way to use initramfs changed again
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[21:43] <fnawothnig> at some point it was ramfsfile= in config.txt, then it was initramfs<space>... must be something else now
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[21:45] <fnawothnig> ah wait
[21:45] <fnawothnig> my initramfs line refers the wrong initramfs file
[21:46] <fnawothnig> .. still it should attempt to load the bad one o.o
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[21:47] <fnawothnig> okay. looking good.
[21:48] <fnawothnig> still i'm somewhat irritated by the fact that i didn't end up in an initramfs rescue shell because the rootfs could not be mounted
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[21:48] <fnawothnig> (as the module wasn't compatible with the kernel version)
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[21:49] <fnawothnig> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr b8:27:eb:7b:d0:ba
[21:49] <fnawothnig> :)
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[21:56] <lapide_viridi> !stats
[21:56] <lapide_viridi> No stats? Well, that sucks.
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[22:26] <Martijn-NL> Hi Raspberry friends - i have a question. I want to play with the GPIO pins on my raspberry e.g. installing some leds and resistors etc. etc. Is there a kind of program for testing my elektronical circuit, so I cannot blow up my raspberry pi?
[22:28] <shiftplusone> Martijn-NL, there are all kinds of simulators, but you'd probably need to know more about electronics to use them in the first place that you'd need to know just to connect things safely in the first place.
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[22:29] <Martijn-NL> shiftplusone: Can you give me a link to a simulator you recommandate? I know a little bit about elektronics ohm rule etc. etc, but for me it's a long time ago I play with this stuff.
[22:30] <AlphaTech> Martijn-NL: Check this out http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio/
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[22:30] <AlphaTech> Martijn-NL: Also, you should do "sudo raspbi-config" go to advanced and make sure GPIO pins are on
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[22:30] <melroy> just wondering ...
[22:30] <shiftplusone> AlphaTech, 'gpio pins are on'?
[22:31] <AlphaTech> Isn't there a setting
[22:31] <melroy> does raspbian fit on a 4GB sdcard?
[22:31] <melroy> because the latest version of NOOBS doesn't fit anymore on a 4GB card (by default)
[22:31] <AlphaTech> shiftplusone: I thought there was a setting for that in advanced but I may be wrong
[22:32] <melroy> I see that the img file is 3.3GB
[22:32] <shiftplusone> AlphaTech, things like i2c and spi, yeah, but not plain gpio.
[22:32] <AlphaTech> Oh, sorry
[22:33] <shiftplusone> melroy, yes the image should fit on a 4GB card.
[22:33] <melroy> ok cool :) and keep fitting :P?
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[22:33] <shiftplusone> remove wolfraam-engine
[22:33] <shiftplusone> *wolfram-engine
[22:33] <shiftplusone> and you get a lot of extra wiggle room
[22:33] <melroy> thx ok
[22:33] <melroy> I see: http://www.wolfram.com/raspberry-pi/
[22:34] <melroy> it is installed by default
[22:34] <shiftplusone> yeah
[22:36] <melroy> ok thx for the update
[22:40] <Martijn-NL> AlphaTech: Is there a simulator so I can draw a circuit on the GPIO and test if it works OK?
[22:47] <shiftplusone> Martijn-NL, very simple one http://www.falstad.com/circuit/
[22:47] <shiftplusone> not pi-specific
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[22:51] <melroy> nice sim
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[23:09] <sine0> anyone in the uk know of a cheap good webhost for a small homepage
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[23:17] <shiftplusone> cheap AND good? >.>
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[23:21] <melroy> host your own :P
[23:21] <melroy> apache2 server
[23:21] <melroy> using raspbian
[23:21] <shiftplusone> *nginx
[23:21] <melroy> also good
[23:22] <klem> I was going to say, your own ISP? They do usually offer a small http space to most subscribers...if not that a free DDNS and your home
[23:22] <melroy> is *nginx faster?
[23:22] <melroy> without *
[23:24] <shiftplusone> nginx has better response times and uses less resources, yes.
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[23:44] <RyRys> Hey, could anyone help me with my B+ and VNC, I can't get it to start on boot automatically :/
[23:49] <klem> RyRys have you tried this; http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
[23:49] <klem> or this? https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-lesson-7-remote-control-with-vnc/running-vncserver-at-startup
[23:50] <RyRys> Yes, followed guide correctly, got to the end and it appeared to be working but on reboot it just doesn't autorun
[23:50] <klem> which method?
[23:51] <RyRys> The official link, I'm just looking at second link. Although I dont know how to reverse the first method..
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[23:52] <klem> ok so what happens if you type ./vnc.sh in terminal?
[23:54] <RyRys> I shall tell you in a second, it' just rebooting to make it a real scenario because I had manually started vnc
[23:55] <RyRys> "Waring: RyPi:0 is taken because of /tmp/.XO-lock, remove this file if there is no X server on RyPi:0. A vnc server is already running on :0
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[23:56] <RyRys> Trying to connect to 192.168.1.117:0 yields nothing..., it says connection refused
[23:56] <RyRys> If I type tightvncserver and then try to connect to 192.168.1.117:1 it will work
[23:58] <klem> change "vncserver :0 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 -dpi 96" to "vncserver :1 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 -dpi 96" I've never run VNC on console 0.....
[23:58] <klem> I don't know if that would work or not
[23:59] <RyRys> I'm new to linux/pi how do I edit the vnc script?
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