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[0:01] <klem> chmod it back to unexecutable then use gearie or what ever.....or since its just one line delete it and do it again
[0:02] <RyRys> What about the script in cd /etc/init.d/
[0:02] <klem> you don't have to call it vnc.sh that is just a label to keep us humans from getting confused as far as the computer is concerned you could call it 123abc.sh
[0:03] <klem> what happens if you try to run vncvboot?
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[0:05] <klem> the fact that ./vnc.sh failed probably indicates that vncboot ran from init, creating the console....
[0:07] <RyRys> Running ./vnc.sh with it set to 1 instead of 0 works
[0:07] <RyRys> How do I kill a vnc server? (I just changed the resolution)
[0:07] <klem> vncserver -kill
[0:08] <RyRys> ahh, I was trying vncserver kill
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[0:11] <RyRys> "what happens if you run vncvboot (just type vncboot? or vncvboot?) it says not a known bash command
[0:11] <RyRys> "command not found"
[0:11] <klem> try ./vncboot
[0:13] <RyRys> I don't have that file... so nothing
[0:13] <RyRys> http://i.imgur.com/AJw2abD.png
[0:15] <klem> are you in /etc/init.d ?
[0:15] <klem> what does it show when you ls -l
[0:17] <RyRys> my bad, I'm in init.d now, i'll try vncboot
[0:18] <RyRys> cannot start .vnc.
[0:18] <RyRys> http://i.imgur.com/iU9L3Ke.png
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[0:19] <RyRys> I guess I need to change the script to :1 instead of 0
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[0:21] <klem> I think the problem is that you don't have a user directory named 'root' which I *think* (I'm new to this too) is what is implied by USER=root: HOME=/root
[0:23] <RyRys> surely my "root" is rypi?
[0:25] <klem> try it. you can't break a computer with a script file......you do have all your important setting backed up on another sd card right?
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[0:26] <RyRys> I can't even login to su to edit the script..
[0:26] <RyRys> su and then typing my pass of "ryry" returns failed authentication
[0:27] <RyRys> but yet sudo su works..
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[0:30] <RyRys> klem, sorry for being a noob. I am new to all this
[0:31] <klem> there is a difference between a SU user and a SUDOER user... you are experiencing said difference
[0:31] <klem> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/users.md
[0:32] <RyRys> I changed the vncboot to 1: but you're right it has to be because of the whole root thing...
[0:34] <klem> I'd change both USER= and HOME=/ to pi or whatever your default sudo user is
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[0:36] <klem> Or add a user named 'root'
[0:37] <klem> a third and perhaps more scary option is that these things exist and your script doesn't have permissions to create the ./root/vncserver
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[0:39] <RyRys> normal terminal shows "pi@rypi" and then once I run sudo su it shows "root@rypi" <--
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[0:40] <klem> type cd .. and see if there is a /home/root dir
[0:43] <klem> if the /home/root directory exists then the script would run, if it had permission to run things in the /home/root directory, but it doesn't....no idea how to fix......maybe google knows
[0:45] <RyRys> I think the directory is /pi
[0:46] <RyRys> /home/pi
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[0:51] <klem> well when it says root@rypi that means user root in dir rypi.....we know that the script wants to run user root in dir root. so the question becomes does directory (home/) root exist?
[0:52] <klem> or you could just change the script to run as root in some other dir
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[1:10] <RyRys> so confused lol
[1:13] <klem> about what?
[1:14] <RyRys> The whole thing, I'm just doing trial and error to make it work now. I think I may have done it.. got to reboot
[1:15] <klem> troubleshooting is doing the wrong thing until you do the right thing.....hopefully with the help of logic, but I never turn down luck
[1:19] <RyRys> I changed the user to root and the directory to rypi and rebooted, the vnc works but on my actual screen it shows some login form asking me to type a password to login to the default xsession
[1:21] <klem> yeah its looking for root's password, which doesn't exist.....I don't know why R Pi's own tutorial would do that
[1:26] <RyRys> http://i.imgur.com/YMZVxVM.png
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[1:27] <klem> does that mean you got it?
[1:29] <RyRys> The vnc works but I have no access to the actual pi (through the hdmi cable) lol
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[1:30] <klem> was the hdmi plugged in when you powered the Pi up?
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[1:31] <RyRys> yep
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[1:34] <klem> weird, I've never checked, I've only done vnc on Pi a couple of times
[1:34] <klem> and I go in and start it manually with SSH
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[1:39] <RyRys> I have no idea what I've done lol
[1:40] <RyRys> reverting it back to root for both home and user still does the same thing
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[1:44] <klem> but it allows you to logon?
[1:45] <RyRys> not anymore ^_^ lol, guess I'll re-install wheezy
[1:46] <klem> try changing both user and home to rypi first
[1:46] <RyRys> I switched it to RyPi and pi and it killed my login access
[1:46] <klem> hmm no idea
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[2:15] <sander^home> Do anyone know if any speaker with microphone I can connect to the pi?
[2:15] <sander^home> of*
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[3:07] <klem> Sander^home you mean like this https://www.adafruit.com/product/1475
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[15:57] <glen> does anuone know, does raspbmc use X11?
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[16:02] <shiftplusone> glen, it... can if you launch it. XBMC itself does not.
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[16:04] <glen> and how does it draw the "picture" then?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> I don't know what it uses as the backend, but it's either opengl es or something a littl emore exotic like dispmanx... or a combination.
[16:05] <shiftplusone> X is not a prerequisite to having graphics, it's a hurdle.
[16:05] <glen> ah, opengl es makes sense
[16:06] <glen> and i know x11 is crap :P
[16:06] <shiftplusone> well... on devices like the pi. Seems to be 'good enough' on the desktop for most use cases.
[16:07] <glen> http://elinux.org/Raspberry_Pi_VideoCore_APIs this seems to explain something
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[16:32] <glen> any ideas how to configure user locale? want to use mosh, but it requires utf8 locale
[16:33] <shiftplusone> raspi-config
[16:33] <glen> http://sprunge.us/gUMb <- POSIX
[16:33] <shiftplusone> that's the quick and lazy way, anyway.
[16:33] <glen> i did dpkg reconfigure locales btw
[16:33] <shiftplusone> ah, nevermind then
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[16:33] <glen> so, the locales exist, but not set for shell
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[16:34] <glen> http://sprunge.us/ZHHC
[16:34] <glen> i tried ~/.profile ... din't help
[16:34] <glen> and in regular linux i use PassEnv in sshd config, but dropbear has nothing like that
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[16:39] <glen> meh http://sprunge.us/hHKg
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[16:40] <glen> looks like whatever filled it, did not check that /bin/sh can actually process echo "-ne" options
[16:40] <glen> looks like debian bug
[16:40] <ShorTie> if you have them set, run 'locale-gen'
[16:40] <glen> wait. nevermind about the -ne
[16:41] <glen> ShorTie: look earlier paste too, locale gen has been ran!
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[16:41] <glen> ShorTie: interactively ~/.bashrc works, but not interactively it's not even processed!
[16:42] <ShorTie> and if not set like 'sed -i 's/# en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/' /etc/locale.gen' and then 'locale-gen' maybe
[16:42] <glen> see: http://sprunge.us/MZGi
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[16:42] <glen> look, locale-gen is fine, it's problem that not inited via ssh
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[16:45] <ShorTie> ok, guess my 2cents was worth nothing, sorry, lol.
[16:46] <facelessloser> Hi I could do with some help with vim.
[16:46] <glen> some other googling suggests /etc/default/locale ... i have it configured, but has no effect for shell (interactive or not)
[16:46] <glen> http://sprunge.us/SaVH
[16:47] <facelessloser> ive got some autocmd in my .vimrc but when i open a text files it comes up with "--- Auto-Commands ---
[16:47] <facelessloser> Press ENTER or type command to continue
[16:47] <facelessloser> "
[16:47] <ShorTie> try nano maybe
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[16:48] <facelessloser> but when i have the same setup on my main ubuntu laptop it doesnt go into command mode
[16:48] <glen> facelessloser: probably you need "enchanced" version of vim
[16:48] <glen> try apt-cache search vim, and see if there's enchanced/advanced version of vim and install it and hope alternatives makes it default
[16:48] <facelessloser> glen, on raspbian its version 7.3 but on ubuntu its 7.4 is that the problem?
[16:49] <facelessloser> glen, ok I will try and have a look
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[16:50] <glen> facelessloser: no, i think the problem of vim you have installed
[16:50] <glen> if you install "tiny" version of vim, it's crippled and doesn't have much of features available
[16:50] <glen> you could fix your vimrc by wrapping sections with: if has("autocmd")
[16:51] <facelessloser> glen, I uninstalled vim-tiny
[16:52] <facelessloser> glen, and i installed vim-gui-common too
[16:52] <glen> nah. not gui. but then again, i don't know how debian packages it's vims
[16:54] <facelessloser> glen, thanks for the pointers i will do some more investagating
[16:54] <glen> does anyone know if i can set default os to boot if i used noobs and installed several os at once
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[17:04] <glen> got it
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[17:15] <glen> ahaa, shiftplusone display driver is dispmanx as you guessed
[17:15] <glen> shiftplusone: as i enabled vnc i see this process now: /usr/bin/vnc_dispmanx
[17:16] <shiftplusone> Curious =S
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[17:20] <facelessloser> glen, I found my problem, I had left a autocmd incomplete in my .vimrc file
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[20:30] <lapide_viridi> I'm making some images of my raspberry pi's SD. If I'm correct, the image would not work well on another type of SD with smaller or larger storage? Would it suffice to just copy the files of the SD card and paste them to a new one?
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[20:31] <shiftplusone> you can image a larger card just fine, you'll just need to use raspi-config to expand the partition.
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[20:31] <shiftplusone> But if you want, you can do it the quick way by copying the files, but it's not an idiot-proof method.
[20:32] <shiftplusone> I don't mean to suggest that you're an idiot, but that it's easy to do it wrong if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
[20:32] <lapide_viridi> shiftplusone, care to explain why copying the files would not suffice?
[20:32] <shiftplusone> It would suffice
[20:32] <shiftplusone> as long as the destination card is partitioned properly and you preserve all the permissions when copying
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[20:34] <lapide_viridi> Not sure if the permissions are preserved if I copy it from an SD to my Windows and over to another SD later on.
[20:34] <shiftplusone> oh dear
[20:35] <shiftplusone> forget it, you can't do it from windows
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[20:35] <shiftplusone> is the destination card larger? if so, just create the image and write that.
[20:36] <lapide_viridi> shiftplusone, the hypothetical crisis I try to prevent is me breaking the 8 GB card somehow, and then have to resort to a smaller one.
[20:37] <lapide_viridi> That's why I'm unsure of the imaging.
[20:39] <shiftplusone> If you're up for some learning, install linux on your pc.
[20:40] <lapide_viridi> I just set up Ubuntu on an extended partition.
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[20:44] <lapide_viridi> Well, thanks for the pointers!
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[20:44] <shiftplusone> any time
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[20:51] <Azazell> would it be possible for a raspberry pi to host a minecraft server for 4-6 players (all using windows)?
[20:57] <shiftplusone> As long as there are no mods, the world is empty, everyone is on the same chunk and doesn't move =P
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[20:57] <shiftplusone> Maybe some server written in C would be good enough, but... minecraft isn't very fun without mods.
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[20:59] <lapide_viridi> Azazell, some Minecraft clones might work. Not sure if picraft has servers yet, though.
[20:59] <Azazell> thanks
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[21:06] <glen> how to disable automount of unwanted partitions?
[21:06] <glen> i understand in raspbmc they are automounted with udisks glue
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[21:13] <klem> glen, you can add a umount to the /etc/rc.local files check this page http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/raspbian/auto-running-programs
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[21:16] <glen> that's super hack. want to do it properly
[21:17] <glen> also (ab)using ".a" as "extension" for wrong purpose is wrong too
[21:17] <glen> .a is static ar archive
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[21:37] <klem> well, I'm probably the least informed person in here, I just hang out to learn stuff. So perhaps one of them could answer your questiont,
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[23:27] <emoko> `greeting all
[23:28] <emoko> would anyone be so kind and offer some help compiling an application?
[23:28] <Azodon> ask your question so we know what you need
[23:29] <emoko> oik,
[23:29] <emoko> ok
[23:30] <emoko> I am attempting to compile fuse-sdl, but the tutorial I am using is a little out of date and it looks like the sources have been updates.
[23:31] <emoko> so I have go so far as making fuse but the compilation finishes with a bunch of errors
[23:31] <emoko> such as ../libtool: 5639: ../libtool: libtool_args+= -lglib-2.0: not found
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[23:45] <emoko> ok think I missed this sudo apt-get install libaudiofile-dev libsdl1.2-dev
[23:45] <emoko> trying again
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[23:57] <emoko> damn, same issue
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