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IRC Log for 2015-01-05

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[0:03] <plugwash> is libglib2.0-dev installed?
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[0:33] <glen> blah, what else c ould be mounting all partitions to /media during boot. i disabled udisks-glue completely from init.d and stuff still mounted from sd card (the other os partitions i do not want to see)
[0:35] <glen> what's weirder is that if i unmount it, something removs the mount dir
[0:36] <glen> it's still udisks daemon? or udev?
[0:36] <glen> i'm using raspbmc
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[0:57] <batabatu> I can't connect to my model B with a serial cable. I'm using minicom on a linux computer and I get nothing showing on the screen. I'm using Adafruit's PL2303 based cable product number 954. I've followed adafruit's guide https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/you-will-need . My cmdline.txt and inittab are here: http://pastebin.com/wsEf1KQA.
[0:57] <batabatu> any suggestions"
[0:57] <batabatu> ?
[0:58] <ShorTie> glen, anything in 'apt-cache search automount' interesting ??
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[1:03] <emoko> ok a little further
[1:03] <emoko> managed to compile fuse-sdl 1.1.1 and it runs
[1:03] <emoko> but crashes on loading any taps
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[1:05] <emoko> yes libglib2.0-dev is installed
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[1:34] <q-bert> i have raspbian on my pi, running irssi, and chinese characters show up as question marks when i connect
[1:35] <q-bert> connecting from putty in windows
[1:35] <q-bert> putty is set up to use UTF-8 already, so i suspect it's something on the raspberrypi side
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[2:01] <klem> q-bert, I'm not sure I understand your problem.....but that won't keep me from commenting. Pherhaps you don't have the Chinese char set loaded on the Pi
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[3:01] <batabatu> hmm, still having issues with my serial port on the Pi. Now to try and narrow down the problem, I've shorted out the rx/tx of the serial port and am trying to "loopback" for want of a better word. I'm running a terminal program on the pi and connecting to /dev/ttyAMA0. I do get a login prompt, but the cursor goes crazy and jumps over the screen. Also i try to type a username/password and some characters I type appear on the scre
[3:01] <batabatu> en but others don't. Any suggestions?
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[3:09] <klem> I am confused where the login prompt is coming from.....it certainly isn't coming from some remote hardware if you have the RX/TX pins shorted
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[3:12] <batabatu> klem: I think it's like a loopback, ie the pi is connected to its own serial port
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[3:12] <batabatu> it is working, I'm seeing this: "i login: raspberryp"
[3:12] <batabatu> with the words truncated as shown
[3:13] <batabatu> then when I enter my password, the cursor just jumps all over the terminal for a while then comes back to a similar prompt
[3:14] <batabatu> I'm using 115200 as the baud rate, I can't really think what could be wrong.
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[3:15] <batabatu> Unless the length of wire I'm using to short rx/tx is acting as an antenna and somehow I'm getting weird results from interference?
[3:15] <klem> you'd have to be in a pretty high RF environment for that to happen
[3:15] <batabatu> ive got a few switch mode power supplies lying around
[3:16] <klem> but password for what??? if you're running a serial teminal it shouldn't be asking for a password
[3:16] <batabatu> I'm not saying that's the problem, I just can't think what's going wrong here
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[3:16] <batabatu> klem: I think it is a login for the pi
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[3:16] <batabatu> I think it is configured by default in inittab and /boot/config.txt
[3:16] <klem> the remote gear may ask for user/pass but there isn't any remote gear.........
[3:17] <klem> what terminal program are you running
[3:17] <batabatu> minicom
[3:19] <batabatu> I think I'm on the right track. This link http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29554 mentions shorting rx/tx
[3:19] <batabatu> I think the serial port is another login option just like ssh over ethernet
[3:20] <batabatu> anyway that is really a side issue, I was just using it to test if the serial port was enabled. What I'm really trying to do is to connect my laptop to the pi via the pis serial cable
[3:20] <klem> I don't know, well try unshorting the rx-tx lines and if you don't get the pasword prompt that means that the rpi was sending it out
[3:20] <batabatu> using an adafruit cable https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
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[3:21] <batabatu> and when I'm using that cable obviously I don't short the rx/tx
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[3:21] <batabatu> however I got nothing in minicom, which left me trying to debug where the problem was
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[3:21] <batabatu> hence I tried shorting rx/tx and connecting the pi to itself, which was to test whether or not the serial port was even working at all.
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[3:22] <klem> so you are using the usb or the onboard io?
[3:22] <batabatu> Getting that login prompt was hopefully proof that it was, although the weird behavior described above doesn't inspire confidence
[3:23] <batabatu> I'm using the PC's usb, connected via the adafruit cable to the pi's serial port
[3:23] <batabatu> and running minicom on the PC
[3:26] <klem> ok, now I am really lost. you have an ibm/intel/amd PC with a usb to serial adapter, which is connected to an on-board serial oi of the pi and your running Minicom on the Window/intel machine with rs/ts shorted where?
[3:26] <batabatu> sorry for the poor description
[3:27] <batabatu> I have a linux pc connected to the raspberry pi using this cable
[3:27] <batabatu> https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
[3:27] <batabatu> i'm running minicom on the laptop
[3:28] <batabatu> and the cable is connected to the pi via the serial ports (part of the gpio header)
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[3:29] <batabatu> the cable is connected like this: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/connect-the-lead
[3:29] <klem> OK now it is starting to sound a little more understandable.....I don't do a lot with serial in Pi, but I do a lot with serial in Windows for PLCs and things. the cursor jumping around like wild usually means one of your ports has its settings unlike the other
[3:30] <batabatu> ah?
[3:30] <batabatu> ok
[3:30] <klem> buad rate, stop bits and parity have to be set the same on both the Linux box and the Pi
[3:30] <batabatu> so backing up a bit, the setup I just described to you is what I started out with. And I get nothing at all in minicom
[3:31] <batabatu> so I wondered what was wrong, had to eliminate the laptop, the serial port, the cable and the pi
[3:31] <batabatu> hence I unplugged the cable from the pi and shorted rx/tx on the pi itself physically using a jumper
[3:31] <batabatu> and then ran minicom on the pi, connecting to /dev/ttyAMA0 ie the serial port
[3:32] <batabatu> that's where I finally saw the login prompt but had the cursor jumping around
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[3:33] <klem> without the RX/TX short on the Pi do you get the login prompt?
[3:33] <batabatu> No. How could that happen?
[3:35] <klem> well I am trying to figure out if the software prompt was somehow software generated by the minicom or if it was reflected from the TX of the serial port. because the TX line doesn't know anything is attacthed ot it unless something sends to it first
[3:35] <batabatu> ah I had to press enter
[3:36] <klem> you have to press enter in the serial terminal before you got the password prompt?
[3:36] <batabatu> yes
[3:36] <klem> ok.....check your minicom settings and make sure your transmittion control is set to XON/XOFF or software
[3:36] <batabatu> but when I do the same thing from minicom (running on my linux laptop) and connected to the pi via the cable, I get nothing at all
[3:37] <batabatu> my settings are 115200 8N1 no hardware, no software flow control
[3:37] <batabatu> ill change it to turn on software flow control then
[3:38] <batabatu> still no joy
[3:38] <batabatu> I get nothing at all in minicom
[3:39] <batabatu> I wonder if the cable is faulty
[3:39] <batabatu> or maybe a driver issue for the cable
[3:40] <klem> are you trying from te PC or from the PI
[3:40] <batabatu> from the pc
[3:41] <klem> make sure you are on the right port....remember your PC box probably has at least 1 hardwired serial port, or may think is does even if it doesn't
[3:41] <klem> lsusb
[3:42] <batabatu> so the port is /dev/USB0 on the pc
[3:42] <klem> is that what lsusb returned
[3:42] <batabatu> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
[3:42] <batabatu> that's what lsusb gave
[3:43] <batabatu> /dev/USB0 appears when I plug the cable in to the pc
[3:43] <klem> ok
[3:43] <klem> and when you short its RX/TX pins together do you get anything?
[3:43] <klem> paperclip
[3:44] <batabatu> I'll try that again, I'll unplug the serial cable from the pc->pi first
[3:44] <batabatu> it's awkward to short them out, I don't have a jumper. I've been using the pi cobbler cable from adafruit to a breadboard then shorting it on the breadboard
[3:46] <batabatu> "pberryp login:rasi "
[3:46] <batabatu> that's exactly what appears in minicom when I press enter
[3:47] <klem> does it do the jumping around thing?
[3:47] <batabatu> yes
[3:48] <batabatu> so to be perfectly clear, what I have right now is the pi's rx/tx pins shorted out. I'm running minicom on the pi with settings 115200 8N1 hardware flow control off, software flow control on
[3:48] <batabatu> the laptop and serial cable are not connected to the pi at all. I'm sshd in over ethernet to run minicom
[3:50] <batabatu> maybe I'll try another terminal program just in case it's minicom that's the problem
[3:50] <klem> what I want is for you to try the rx/tx pin shorting trick on both the Pi and the Linux box to make sure that 1. you have the right port addressed on both machines, that the problem is consistent on both machines
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[3:51] <klem> on the serial port from the linux box, and on the serial port on the pi
[3:51] <batabatu> sorry I don't quite get what you mean.
[3:52] <batabatu> So I short the pins on the cable and plug it in to the linux box and run minicom?
[3:52] <batabatu> ie I'm eliminating the pi from the equation?
[3:52] <klem> ok, we have 3 possible sources of the problem....1 the serial communications coming out of the Linux Box, ....2. the serial port on the Pi....3. Minicom software....yes confirm the linux box serial port is good
[3:53] <klem> or at least presents the same response as the Pi
[3:53] <batabatu> ok, I'll try that. To be crystal clear, I have the usb cable coming out of the linux box and have shorted the rx/tx together. I'm running minicom on the linux box and will see what I get
[3:54] <klem> yes please
[3:55] <batabatu> I get no output in minicom
[3:55] <batabatu> but I don't think there should be any
[3:55] <batabatu> how would there be a login prompt unless the linux box was configured to have one?
[3:56] <klem> if you connect and type you should see your typed characters reflected
[3:57] <batabatu> hmm I'm not
[3:58] <batabatu> could it be that the earth wire needs to be connected?
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[3:58] <klem> if you hit enter then start typing and see nothing at all in Minicom that means there is a problem with the Linux box serial port...because the rx/tx trick works the same its on any machine its just a loopback
[3:58] <batabatu> hmm ok. It's not really a serial port, it's a usb port with a serial adapter cable
[3:59] <batabatu> with the PL2303 chip
[3:59] <batabatu> but I guess the same trick should work
[4:01] <klem> attaching the RX to TX is like mailing a letter to yourself. the keyboard presses go out the TX line and come back in the RX line...if you don't see anything you are either not sending them out the right line (port) or something is wrong in the path out and back mechanically/electrically
[4:01] <batabatu> hmm, so looks like either the cable, drivers or the usb port could be faulty or misconfigured then
[4:02] <klem> could be, I've never set up a serial port in a linux box
[4:02] <batabatu> should I have flow control set for this loopback test?
[4:03] <klem> no, if you want you can turn software on....but so long as you don't have hardware on you should be ok
[4:04] <klem> if you have a voltmeter you can check to see if the tx line changes value when you type, but if I had to guess I'd be suspicious of the linux box setup
[4:05] <batabatu> hmm it isn't working no matter what I try.
[4:05] <batabatu> Yeah I'm suspicious of that usb/serial converter'
[4:06] <batabatu> I know that there can be issues with them, I suspect the driver isn't correctly setup. Although the instructions claim there is no setup to be done for linux: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/software-installation-linux
[4:07] <batabatu> the driver is installed for the Pl2303 and lsusb shows the port as a "PL2303 Serial port"
[4:08] <klem> well, I've taken it as far as I can......we know where in hardware the problem is.....but I'm lost any further than that
[4:09] <batabatu> ok thank you for your help. I guess it was still odd that doing the loopback test on the pi didn't really work properly either. Makes me wonder if I wasn't doing the loopback test correctly
[4:09] <batabatu> It was odd to get the cursor jumping around the screen and the truncated login prompt
[4:10] <batabatu> and I never was able to actually log in
[4:10] <klem> I don't know,,,,
[4:10] <batabatu> ok thank you anyway
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[12:16] <tydeas> Hello there, happy new year
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[12:17] <tydeas> I get an error "Your kernel headers for kernel 3.12.35+ cannot be found"
[12:18] <tydeas> at /lib/modules/3.12.35+/build or /lib/modules/3.12.35+/source.
[12:18] <tydeas> what package do I need to install to have this headers?
[12:19] <shiftplusone> There isn't one, install them from source
[12:19] <tydeas> shiftplusone: how can I do so?
[12:20] <shiftplusone> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/headers_install.txt
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[12:23] <tydeas> shiftplusone: so I should donwload the exact version and follow the instructions?
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[12:24] <shiftplusone> sounds like a start
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[12:28] <tydeas> shiftplusone: command in the installation needs 2 arguments ARCH and INSTALL_HDR_PATH
[12:28] <tydeas> shiftplusone: how can I determine the proper values for this ?
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[12:32] <shiftplusone> ARM and /usr/include should be fine.
[12:32] <shiftplusone> I actually suspect this isn't what you're really after.
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[12:34] <shiftplusone> It sounds like you want to compile a module, so headers alone won't be enough
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[12:34] <shiftplusone> And this is going to get hairy quick if you haven't compiled a kernel before.
[12:35] <tydeas> shiftplusone: see
[12:36] <tydeas> shiftplusone: Indeed I want to comple a module for a wifi usb adapter
[12:36] <tydeas> shiftplusone: what else is need except headers to get module complied/
[12:36] <tydeas> *compiled?
[12:37] <shiftplusone> I build the whole kernel and then the module.
[12:37] <shiftplusone> I do this by cross-compiling, because it will take forever on the pi
[12:38] <shiftplusone> There's a way to do it without compiling the whole kernel, but I haven't had luck with it.
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[12:41] <tydeas> shiftplusone: I am giving make headers_install a try for the moment
[12:41] <shiftplusone> sounds like a start
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[12:42] <tydeas> I get a mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/include//include
[12:42] <tydeas> shiftplusone: permission denied before I do not sudo i t
[12:42] <tydeas> shiftplusone: but it seems that the INSTALL_HDR_PATH is not likely to be /usr/include
[12:43] <shiftplusone> definitely not
[12:43] <shiftplusone> just /usr, by the looks of it
[12:48] <tydeas> shiftplusone: exactly. nothing actually changed
[12:48] <shiftplusone> sounds about right
[12:48] <tydeas> shiftplusone: the /lib/modules/.../build is not there
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[12:50] <tydeas> shiftplusone: trying make modules_install
[12:51] <shiftplusone> You should get the .config there first
[12:51] <shiftplusone> but modules_install is not what you're after
[12:51] <tydeas> shiftplusone: which config?
[12:52] <tydeas> shiftplusone: I am worst tha noob in compiling kernel
[12:52] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I think you need to learn about compiling the kernel in general first and then revisit the module thing.
[12:53] <shiftplusone> There might be a simple way to do it, but I don't know it.
[12:53] <shiftplusone> I just stick to whatever works for me
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[13:16] <tydeas> shiftplusone: is there any default config file for the raspbian to do cross compiling of the kernel?
[13:17] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's called something like bcmrpi_defconfig. You can also steal it from /proc/config.gz when it's running on the pi
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[15:15] <tydeas> shiftplusone: should I prefer to donwload the kernel from raspberrypi/linux github repo or the kernel.org?
[15:15] <shiftplusone> github
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[15:15] <shiftplusone> upstream kernel is different
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[15:17] <tydeas> shiftplusone: in the github repo branches are like 3.12.y
[15:17] <tydeas> shiftplusone: y is the latest?
[15:17] <shiftplusone> default branch is fine, yes, use that
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[17:10] <tydeas> shiftplusone: I go the kernel compiled with cross-compiling and put in the pi
[17:10] <tydeas> shiftplusone: rebooted with success and uname -r reports the new kernel
[17:11] <shiftplusone> cross-compile the module as well
[17:11] <tydeas> shiftplusone: and modules are also cross compiled
[17:11] <tydeas> shiftplusone: and run make modules_install on the pi with the new kernel
[17:11] <shiftplusone> not modules... the module.
[17:11] <shiftplusone> the wifi one
[17:12] <tydeas> shiftplusone: oh!
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[17:12] <yousdo> hi
[17:12] <tydeas> shiftplusone: this is the module https://github.com/dz0ny/rt8192cu
[17:13] <tydeas> shiftplusone: can you please check the readme file for the installations?
[17:15] <shiftplusone> I find it easier to read the makefile and understand what's going on there.
[17:15] <shiftplusone> check this first
[17:15] <shiftplusone> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
[17:18] <tydeas> shiftplusone: h,
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[17:34] <tydeas> shiftplusone: should my make commad for the module end with modules ?
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[17:35] <shiftplusone> nope
[17:35] <shiftplusone> read the txt file, it answers that
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[17:35] <tydeas> shiftplusone: txt does not refer to cross compiling right?!
[17:36] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter, it's just a matter of specifying CROSS_COMPILE and ARCH variables
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[17:41] <tydeas> shiftplusone: oh! so I have to compile the module for the kernel BEFORE pushing the kernel to the pi?
[17:42] <shiftplusone> not sure what you mean. It doesn't really matter. I wouldn't push the kernel across at all. I'd just compile the module against it and copy that
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[18:10] <tydeas> shiftplusone: I make the file and then followed the install commands found in the Makefile
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[18:30] <adsmz> my external hard drive isn't showing up
[18:31] <adsmz> ah wait nvm
[18:31] <adsmz> had to actually look in /media
[18:31] <adsmz> too used to thunar
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[18:36] <adsmz> vlc is not running well
[18:37] <adsmz> even overclocked a little
[18:37] <shiftplusone> which is why God created omxplayer
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[18:37] <adsmz> I'll look into it
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[18:44] <adsmz> god damn, 5 second stopos between songs
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[19:20] <glen> does anyone know how raspbmc (which uses rasbian) setups initial clock from last boot even if network is off?
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[19:24] <BManojlovic> glen: it is rather easy to use something like "touch olddate; reboot ; date -r olddate"
[19:25] <glen> BManojlovic: that wasn't the question how to do it, but question how is it done.
[19:25] <BManojlovic> date -s +"$(date -r /etc/passwd)"
[19:25] <glen> so, where exactlu such code resides?
[19:25] <BManojlovic> no clue
[19:26] <BManojlovic> in /etc/init.d scripts
[19:26] <glen> looked those and /etc/init scripts, nothing there
[19:26] <BManojlovic> rc.local or whatever
[19:26] <BManojlovic> maybe in there
[19:26] <BManojlovic> grep for date command
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[19:27] <glen> ah
[19:27] <glen> found
[19:27] <glen> ./init/hwclock.conf: date -u --set="$(cat /var/tmp/shutdown-time)"
[19:28] <glen> and
[19:28] <glen> ./init/hwclock-save.conf: exec date -u > /var/tmp/shutdown-time
[19:29] <BManojlovic> exactly that :)
[19:30] <BManojlovic> except i was using simple -r which again does the same
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[19:34] <glen> and i would had used +%s really, above could be corrupted via localization
[19:35] <BManojlovic> that is why -u utc
[19:35] <BManojlovic> but probably there is LANG=C
[19:36] <glen> i mean localization problem, not timezone
[19:36] <BManojlovic> to mitigate localization :)
[19:36] <BManojlovic> yes yes
[19:36] <BManojlovic> i understood you
[19:36] <glen> LANG is weak, you need LC_ALL=C
[19:37] <BManojlovic> i meant LC_ALL to be honest but could not remember :)
[19:37] <glen> but date +%s is universal, no localization, not timezone. it's just seconds
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[19:38] <glen> btw, how the rasbian distro is compiled? qemu? real hw? cross-compilation?
[19:38] <BManojlovic> no clue really
[19:38] <BManojlovic> if i compile something for it i use cross
[19:39] <glen> do you package too, or just compile?
[19:40] <BManojlovic> package but i'm just a user of raspbian as you :)
[19:40] <BManojlovic> just few packages i use
[19:40] <BManojlovic> freeswitch for example
[19:41] <glen> actually i'm raspbmc user now, but it's same debian underneath anyway :)
[19:41] <glen> and i'm not debian user
[19:41] <BManojlovic> neither am i, opensuse is my poison :)
[19:42] <glen> mine is pld :P
[19:43] <adsmz> I need more SD cards so I can try all the things
[19:43] <glen> use usb disk
[19:45] <BManojlovic> glen: what package manager pld use?
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[19:47] <glen> BManojlovic: rpm lowlevel, poldek highlevel
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[19:49] <BManojlovic> i meant highlevel i already saw your comment about rpm, thanks for info
[19:50] <glen> where did i say anything about rpm?
[19:50] * glen doesn't remember
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[19:52] <BManojlovic> hm
[19:52] <BManojlovic> in that case i assumed it sorry ;))
[20:02] <adsmz> just tried riscOS. it's hella weird\
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[20:03] <adsmz> first thing I noticed is that if you have any scroll at all and you hit maximise, it just makes the window big enough to eliminate scroll
[20:04] <adsmz> also it's really ugly
[20:05] <BManojlovic> your issue in this case is terminal emulation rather than OS itself ;)
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[22:11] <jdishere> hello
[22:13] <jdishere> I'm looking for RP debian image optimized for booting time (without GUI etc). Do you know where can I find it?
[22:13] <shiftplusone> debian or raspbian?
[22:14] <shiftplusone> btw the gui has no effect on boot time.... if you disable it, it doesn't add to the boot time.
[22:14] <jdishere> well I was sure raspbian is a debian build for RP
[22:16] <shiftplusone> sure... but it's not debian. You can run* debian on the pi, or you can run raspbian... do there are two very different answers your question and the question you asked is not for the answer you want.
[22:16] <shiftplusone> tldr, raspbian-ua-netinst
[22:16] <jdishere> right, GUI was just an example. My idea was that I don't need default stuff, just pure system
[22:17] <shiftplusone> same principle applies... don't start what you don't need.
[22:17] <shiftplusone> for extra points, use systemd instead of sysvinit
[22:17] <shiftplusone> and you should boot in ~15 seconds
[22:18] <jdishere> so I have to look for raspbian with build in systemd?
[22:18] <shiftplusone> not really, you can install systemd in wheezy or upgrade to jessie
[22:18] <jdishere> I have found ARMHF Image for Raspberry Pi
[22:19] <shiftplusone> I believe raspbian-ua-netinst will let you install jessie straight away
[22:19] <jdishere> but they reduced size, while I don't really care about size, I want to have fast boot time
[22:19] <jdishere> jessie?
[22:20] <jdishere> ok, didn't know there is sth new after wheezy
[22:22] <jdishere> one more question
[22:22] <jdishere> lets assume I will install raspbian-ua-netinst (with systemd)
[22:24] <jdishere> so, I will be able to change eth0 to wlan0?
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[22:25] <jdishere> or I will need to install additional layer to handle wifi
[22:26] <jdishere> or it's kernel stuff and I dont need to do anything
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[22:29] <shiftplusone> depends on the dongle, but most work out of the box
[22:30] <shiftplusone> on the official image anyway. If you use something else, you'll probably need to apt-get the relevant stuff
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