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[3:51] <DK-haze> hi dudes, I have a slight problem with my newly bought Raspberry Pi B+, I have installed Raspbian but cannot get the X session to change resolution so it fits my HDMI monitors full HD resolution.. And I have trouble setting up an manual IP over an USB WIFI dongle.
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[4:05] <DK-haze> no one?
[4:05] <klem> just got here,,,I was afk....hold on
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[4:06] <DK-haze> are you the only one alive here :)
[4:08] <klem> Well Iive seen others, but its not a very busy room.....
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[4:08] <q-bert> hi klem
[4:08] <q-bert> im here but i dont have a definite answer for you DK-haze so i remained silent
[4:08] <klem> Now for a caveat, I'm new to this and while I know a little about monitors and such I can't say I know a whole lot about Raspbian or Pi.
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[4:09] <q-bert> it used to be that control-alt-plus wouldcycle through different resolutions in X
[4:09] <q-bert> i dont know if that's still the case
[4:09] <DK-haze> oh okay, just added the channel today..
[4:09] <q-bert> klem: you answered one of my questions the other day
[4:09] <DK-haze> hmm
[4:10] <klem> So here is the trick, your monitor actually communicates with the Po and tells it what the best resolution is between the ones the Pi has available and what the moniror is capable of
[4:10] <q-bert> about asian chars showing up as question marks in putty
[4:10] <q-bert> you said i shoudl install the charsets,
[4:10] <klem> ahhh, did you get the PC side communicatting?
[4:10] <DK-haze> q-bert I cant press the plus minus, I don't have any :S
[4:10] <q-bert> not sure what charset packages are out there
[4:10] * DK-haze damns DiNovo Edge to the far side of the moon
[4:10] <q-bert> i dont think it's a font issue myself, since it's over putty and not in X
[4:11] <q-bert> seems more like a terminal issue
[4:11] <q-bert> im gonna test it not inside of a screen session
[4:12] <DK-haze> klem, I've tried in terminal to see the avarible resolutions, in tty it runs full hd but in x it only want to run 1776x952
[4:12] <q-bert> yeah
[4:12] <q-bert> it's a screen issue
[4:12] <q-bert> the chars display ok without screen
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[4:13] <DK-haze> if someone could tell me where to find the x sessions config where I can change the resolution in the config then maybe I can fix this issue I have
[4:14] <q-bert> i think i got it
[4:15] <q-bert> DK-haze: isnt it /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[4:15] <q-bert> damn
[4:15] <q-bert> that file no longer exists
[4:16] <q-bert> what have they done to X
[4:16] <klem> I'm not sure if this applies to X or just the CLI http://weblogs.asp.net/bleroy/getting-your-raspberry-pi-to-output-the-right-resolution
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[4:17] <DK-haze> q-bert yes thats gone :), klem I'm going to give it a shot
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[4:23] <DK-haze> klem there were some new stuff there I haven't tried out, so now I'm rebooting hoping for the best :)
[4:23] <DK-haze> please be fixed, pleeeease
[4:24] <DK-haze> omg didnt work, bummer!
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[4:25] <klem> ok your running X? open a terminal and type gnome-display-properties
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[4:26] <klem> or it might be gnome-control-center or you may have to apt-get intall xandr (if its not installed)
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[4:28] <klem> ooops gnome-control-center may need to be run from the gnome 'run application' window....alt+f2
[4:28] <DK-haze> okay, i cant install xandr ?
[4:28] <DK-haze> oh
[4:29] <klem> you can, or it may already be installed have you tried just entering xandr in terminal?
[4:30] <DK-haze> yes its not installed and there is no packages called xandr
[4:30] <DK-haze> it tells me
[4:31] <klem> that means its not in the default distro ummm.....crap whats thats called....yeah but its not in the default libraries
[4:33] <DK-haze> not good
[4:34] <klem> lookinlll
[4:34] <klem> err looking....
[4:34] <DK-haze> I'm total newb to linux systems so I'm am to be honest a bit lost right now.. Everything I wanted with my pi seems to be kinda nearly impossible to figure out I've had to divert from my original plans of the Pi about 5 times now hehe:)
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[4:36] <klem> it can be very frustrating at first....and the Pi can be particularly frustrating because a lot of usefull stuff is stripped out to make it smaller and lighter.
[4:36] <klem> what was your original goal?
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[4:38] <DK-haze> originally I would have had Raspbian, running with transmission as a small seedbox/dropbox system for home, while it would run xbmc on raspbian but that wasn't possible
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[4:40] <klem> so gnome-display-properties doesn't do anything from terminal and gnome-control-center came up empty too?
[4:40] <klem> http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-change-gnome-resolution-with-a-command-using-terminal-or-console-on-debian-gnu-linux/
[4:40] <DK-haze> then I tried to install Raspbmc with transmission but raspbmc had trouble with ssh and some other, then I tried OpenElec and that wouldnt let me use my wifi dongle and my bluetooth keyboard..
[4:40] <DK-haze> yes
[4:41] <klem> have you gotten XBMC to run at all?
[4:43] <DK-haze> yes but not well that why I switched to OpenElec but that has no wifi and no keyboard witch I kinda need
[4:43] <DK-haze> omg im a bit on the dumb side
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[4:44] <DK-haze> just tried some commands here in this laptop instead of on the raspberry..
[4:44] <DK-haze> on
[4:44] <klem> I have run XBMC on a Pi, but it works MUCH better on a regular old PC, I've abandoned running it on Pi and I'm running it on an old core 2 dual and iit runs great.....on a Pi it was very sluggish
[4:45] <DK-haze> plus im tired I just tried xrandr and it shows something :)
[4:45] <DK-haze> I did that before this pi and I did hope this could have been used for it..
[4:45] <DK-haze> But I can tell you that the Pi is faster then WDTV Live boxes
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[4:46] <DK-haze> much faster and even though i haven't gotten anything to work it still works better than wdtv box and are more fun.. and cheaper :)
[4:47] <DK-haze> im just afraid that it doesnt pack the punch it needs to handle seedbox and xbmc or video playback of any kind in Full HD
[4:47] <DK-haze> not unless i OC the darn thing
[4:47] <klem> I've done greater than 1080P with some pretty big files and it didn't choke
[4:48] <DK-haze> You have a Pi b+ ?
[4:48] <klem> I know for a fact I've played back like a 11 or 14 GB copy of Frozen at 1080 and it worked fine....regular B not +
[4:49] <klem> that was running XBMC (which does allow resolution hopping)
[4:49] <DK-haze> okay, while you have transmission-daemon in the background ?
[4:49] <klem> no, I don't do torrents much, just one machine with some ISOs on it
[4:51] <klem> 'course you know that XBMC does pretty good at finding network shares right? the files don't have to be on the XBMC machine
[4:52] <DK-haze> well If I could I would have tried to run RaspBMC with transmission but I cant get any of the media centers to work without some fatal error
[4:52] <klem> also with the right repositories you can just suck down whatever you're looking for direct from the repository libraries
[4:53] <klem> 'course I'm not much for TV so maybe my definition of 'a lot' is different than yours
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[4:54] <DK-haze> how does that work with the sharing and downloading though repository ?
[4:54] <klem> I gotta say though I've come up dry on what to do with your Pi,.....I'd play with mine but its out in the car
[4:55] <klem> do you have an XBMC running?
[4:55] <DK-haze> Well you tried your best helping me and that I'm thankful of :) I can try start it up..
[4:58] <klem> https://superrepo.org/get-started/ this pretty much covers it....the add-on we use the most is 1channel
[4:59] <klem> Its part of the SuperRepo package and has more movies than NetFlix...or at least more that I care about...after 1 month using XBMC with 1channel I cancelled Nefflix
[5:00] <DK-haze> is that free of charge or a monthly pay like netflix ?
[5:00] <klem> free and ilegal as heroine
[5:01] <DK-haze> sounds great!
[5:01] <DK-haze> :)
[5:03] <klem> well, I understand the justification for intellectual property rights, but .99 out of $1 goes to someone other than the artist and I don't think that is the way it was supposed to work. So screw'em!
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[5:05] <DK-haze> well, I do buy much of the movies I like anyways, the other is just a "preview" of the real deal IMO
[5:06] <DK-haze> you don't get extras, or original quality, all subs and so on.. so you pay for a movie to get the extras and the goodies and that the fact its a movie ones collections cant live without
[5:08] <klem> Like I said earlier I'm not really much of a consumer of media.....honestly I own 2 bluray disks and no player....I use my Pi for setting up monitors for installations the company I work for does. that's why I know about XBMC....I play stuff off thumb drives to demo the projectors/flat screens to customers
[5:10] <DK-haze> oh like that..
[5:10] <DK-haze> well a pi is very suitable for exact that job i must say
[5:11] <klem> yeah its small and it has HDMI output, I can use my laptop (very old so it has serial port) for analog outputs
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[5:12] <DK-haze> serial ? not VGA?
[5:12] <DK-haze> old oooold laptop :)
[5:12] <klem> also for me its nice because with XBMC I can force it into verious resolutions and frrame rates
[5:13] <klem> it has a VGA port, but it also has an RS 232 serial port which I need for setting up some systems
[5:15] <DK-haze> and that has an video out?
[5:16] <DK-haze> oh no sorry, my brain is melting
[5:16] <DK-haze> im to tired to think straight :)
[5:16] <klem> no but the Pi does.....when I said analog output I was refering to the VGA port.....VGA is actually RGBHV (Red Blue Green and Horz and Vert sync) analog signals.
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[5:19] <DK-haze> oh yes I know :) Just me that been up to late again.. Now the time is 06:19 in the morning, just geeked though the night again :S
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[5:20] <klem> I'm way to old to do that, in fact its just after 10 pm here and I'm fading fast.....I gotta be up at 4:30 am
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[5:22] <DK-haze> hehe, If I could I would have been sleeping but I have some trouble doing that @ night.. my inner clockwork is on Japanese or something :P
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[5:23] <klem> well someone got to burn the midnight oil, we don't want that stuff just laying around.
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[5:24] <DK-haze> hehe
[5:25] <DK-haze> I need to be going, have to power down and try to sleep.. but thank you for your help, I'll be joining in here again tomorrow so maybe well be at it again there :)
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[5:26] <DK-haze> btw I ran xrandr before and it told me the max res was 1776x952
[5:26] <klem> been nice chatting with you sorry I couldn't be more help
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[5:27] <DK-haze> you helped that a help! :) so thanks again. cheers
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[8:50] <batabatu> has anyone used a 3g dongle with the pi for sms AND data? I can do one or the other but am looking for a good way to do both. I'm using sakis3g to connect for 3g data and gammu for sms
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[12:02] <elebehe> can i use my raspberry with a 2GB sd?
[12:03] <shiftplusone> if you don't use the official raspbian image, yes.
[12:03] <shiftplusone> you'dd need to use something like raspbian-ua-netinst
[12:06] <krabban> 8GB is recommended for use with Noobs installer. I'm not sure what the minimum requirement to run raspbian is but 2GB sounds too little even through you might be able to squeeze it in somehow.
[12:06] <shiftplusone> you'll have about a gig to play with, which seems like enough to me.
[12:07] <shiftplusone> depends on what you want to run on it, 'course.
[12:07] <krabban> I assume you want to run Raspbian and not other distros and mount the root file system from the SD card.
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[12:07] <krabban> It's possible to have the file system mounted over the network on an NFS share but that is more advanced.
[12:07] <elebehe> i was just asking here on raspbian for know the image size
[12:07] <elebehe> but i think i will finish in arch
[12:08] <krabban> Why isn't arch linux listed on raspberry pi's homepage any longer?
[12:08] <krabban> *arch linux arm
[12:08] <shiftplusone> krabban, because it's distributed as a tarball now.
[12:09] <shiftplusone> Making it inconsistent with everything else and a special case for the documentation.
[12:09] <elebehe> what about gentoo? there is some gentoo arm?
[12:09] <shiftplusone> there is, yes.
[12:09] <shiftplusone> but... that's a bit on the insane side, unless you set up distcc and ccache. Even then, it will be a pain.
[12:09] <krabban> what's the openembedded derivate distro for arm?
[12:09] <krabban> i don't remember the name of it
[12:10] <krabban> but that's pretty small
[12:10] <shiftplusone> there's tinycore
[12:10] <shiftplusone> I don't know what that's based on
[12:10] <shiftplusone> and of course buildroot
[12:10] <krabban> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
[12:12] <krabban> shiftplusone: do you know why it was changed to tarball?
[12:12] <shiftplusone> krabban, because the Arch guys don't want to maintain an image because they don't feel the foundation updates the links often enough to make it worthwhile
[12:13] <krabban> Use HTTP 302 redirect :P
[12:13] <krabban> maybe it's hosted by pi foundation
[12:13] <shiftplusone> The image needs to go through some basic testing. And yes, it's hosted by the foundation.
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[12:14] <shiftplusone> There's an automated build and test system in the works which should sort all of that out in the future.
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[12:15] <krabban> You say: "and of course buildroot". There seem to be quite many project based on buildroot and not yocto for example.
[12:16] <flip214> Hi. Can I power a B+ via the 40-pin pad, by providing +5V to the appropriate pin? Ie. is the 5V pin directly connected to the USB +5V "input"?
[12:16] <shiftplusone> flip214, you can connect 5v to gpio. But you'd be bypassing input protection.
[12:17] <shiftplusone> bypassing the polyfuse entirely and moving the power source further from the tvs diode
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[12:18] <krabban> is it possible to power the pi without using usb and still go through the polyfuse?
[12:18] <krabban> (b+)
[12:18] <shiftplusone> with a bit of soldering
[12:18] <elebehe> what can i connect to the GPIO?
[12:19] <shiftplusone> elebehe, anything. The question is how much electronics you need in between. All the common 3.3v stuff just works (uart, spi, i2c).
[12:20] <flip214> shiftplusone: so I should better cut an old USB cable in half, and solder one end to the 7805. Thanks for the answer!
[12:20] <shiftplusone> np
[12:20] <flip214> does someone know whether kernels newer than 3.12.35+ support multiple swi (1-wire) busses?
[12:21] <krabban> I have a 12v power source and intend to power my pi with it. I have a buck down converter that takes med to 5V so I can power it using 5V and GND pins. But I also have a buck down converter that has an USB port. I wonder which method I should use.
[12:21] <flip214> krabban: sounds easier via usb, because of the fuse.
[12:21] <krabban> I guess it depends on the max current the USB converter can handle
[12:22] <shiftplusone> aye, regulation, current and heat dissipation are the issues here.
[12:22] <krabban> I bought it from China but I guess there should be some way to look it up
[12:22] <flip214> and is there a chance to get a realtime kernel into the raspbian repositories?
[12:23] <flip214> krabban: I bought me an mc34166 for that; but perhaps I'll just use an 7805 because I'll need some warmth in there anyway.
[12:24] <krabban> flip214: aren't both emitting quite much heat?
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[12:25] <flip214> krabban: the mc34166 should have nearly no heat, that's a switching step-down regulator.
[12:26] <flip214> the 7805 will eat the voltage difference and whole flow, ie. (12V-5V)*0.7A ~ 5W.
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[12:30] <elebehe> is there a similar program as CLU for linux?
[12:32] <elebehe> quit
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[12:34] <krabban> else... good bye
[12:34] <krabban> flip214: so
[12:34] <krabban> LM2596 is overkill?
[12:35] <krabban> http://www.amazon.co.uk/LM2596-Converter-Module-Supply-1-23V-30V/dp/B00HCZHFVS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420806899&sr=8-2&keywords=LM2596
[12:35] <krabban> I don't need the variable voltage output for a raspberry pi that's always 5V
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[12:36] <krabban> http://www.adafruit.com/products/2030 one of these will also work and is very easy to use for powering a rpi
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[12:47] <gordonDrogon> there are single "chip" switching regulators that are pin-compatible with the 7805 if you don't want to make your own: e.g. http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> slightly cheaper: http://uk.farnell.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=15001&langId=44&urlRequestType=Base&partNumber=1696320&storeId=10151
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[13:31] <stooj> Hi. I'm trying to make a custom raspbian image. Can I dd an SD card, but only dd the size of the partitions? It's creating a file equal to the size of the card, even though the partitions only take up 3GB
[13:34] <stooj> Probably a daft question
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[13:51] <shiftplusone> stooj, yeah, you can specify how much you want to copy
[13:51] <shiftplusone> bs and count are the relevant dd arguments
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[14:25] <stooj> Thanks shiftplusone
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[14:30] <TheSnide> if you use the if of the partition and not the whole device, it should automatically handle the size
[14:30] <TheSnide> dd if=/dev/sdz2 instead of if=/dev/sdz
[14:30] <TheSnide> (depending in the fact that i understood correctly)
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[14:41] <stooj> TheSnide: That'll skip the boot partition. Can I dd them separately and then cat the two files together?
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[14:41] <shiftplusone> no, you can't cat them together, you'd be missing the MBR
[14:42] <stooj> Yeah, that's what I figured.
[14:43] <stooj> Using count sounds like the best bet. Presumably count refers to read blocks, so I just divide the size of the partitioned area by the blocksize?
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[14:46] <shiftplusone> you'd be off by however much the boot partition and MBR take up
[14:46] <shiftplusone> what you want to do is find the exact end of the last partition.
[14:47] <shiftplusone> You can find some hints here https://github.com/asb/spindle/blob/master/shrink_image
[14:47] <stooj> *the combined partition area, plus a little extra to be safe
[14:47] <shiftplusone> yes
[14:47] <stooj> My bad; I wasn't clear
[14:47] <shiftplusone> look at how NEW_IMG_BYTES is derived in that script
[14:48] <shiftplusone> +1 for the use of a semicolon on IRC.
[14:51] <stooj> Huh. Block size always seemed arbitrary. I had no idea it could be so large. Thanks for the link!
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[14:52] <shiftplusone> it can be in the case of that script. you don't want to do that for this, you'll run out of memory
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[16:12] <Dumper> Hey
[16:13] <Dumper> I have a question
[16:13] <Dumper> Does Raspbian fit on a 512mb micro sd?
[16:15] <ppq> Dumper, use the net installer, then it does
[16:15] <ppq> Dumper, https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[16:16] <Dumper> does it come with full functionality of the standart raspbian?
[16:17] <ppq> no, as the foundation's image is pretty bloated
[16:17] <ppq> which is the reason it doesnt fit on a 512 MB card
[16:18] <ppq> with the net-installer you get a minimal system, just install what you need manually
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[16:19] <Dumper> hmm
[16:19] <ppq> be sure to read the manual of the net-installer, especially https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst#first-boot
[16:20] <ppq> it really is the best way to install raspbian
[16:20] <ppq> und falls du fragen hast, ich kann auch deutsch ;)
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[17:03] <zero_coder> hey, how can i view the files in usb from shell
[17:04] <zero_coder> in ubuntu its usuall under /media/username
[17:04] <zero_coder> the mounted folders are listed, what about raspbian?
[17:04] <ppq> type "mount" to see where it is mounted
[17:04] <ppq> then check that place out with ls
[17:04] <ppq> if it's not mounted yet, ... mount it. ;)
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[21:14] <mah454> Hello
[21:15] <mah454> I want to comple some sources for raspberri pi on x86_64 system .
[21:15] <mah454> How can di that ?
[21:15] <mah454> s/di/do
[21:15] <mah454> I need documents ...
[21:15] <mah454> for example recompile bash
[21:19] <preyalone> Could we update wheezy's transmission to v2.84? It's got a lot of improvements
[21:20] <preyalone> Could the Raspbian admins do this, or should I ask #debian?
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[21:25] <mah454> preyalone: transmission client ?
[21:26] <mah454> preyalone: torrent transmission client ?
[21:26] <preyalone> yes
[21:28] <mah454> preyalone: compile or install by deb binary ?
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[21:43] <splork> ignore 4
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[22:34] <Lokathor> So i used debian for a while back in 2006-2008, and I just got a pi, is the pi version of debian pretty similar to the desktop version of debian?
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[22:43] <gordonDrogon> Lokathor, if you use lxde on the desktop, then yes.
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[22:45] <Lokathor> I was probably just gonna connect to it via ssh most of the time
[22:45] <Lokathor> without using X
[22:45] <Lokathor> okay cool then
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> sure - ssh is fine.
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> but raspbian is essentially debian wheezy with a few tweaks for the Pi.
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[22:51] <chrislp> Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask these questions. I want to play with the GPIO pins on my rpi running raspbian, and was wondering if anyone could help me confirm how many ohm my resistors need to be for some LEDs and a dht22 temperature measurement device respectively.
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> might be better off asking in the main #raspberrypi channel, however ...for most LEDs, use a resistor that's 100x the voltage - so 330 ohms for LEDs on the Pi.
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> the dht22 can be directly wired to the Pi.
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[22:54] <chrislp> and the dht22 would not need a resistor if wired directly then? and where would I connect it to on the pi?
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> chrislp, there is a page I saw recently on 'instructables' about it.
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Temperature-Humidity-Network-Monitor/step6/WiringPi-GPIO-interface/
[22:55] <Yohio> I use a 10K resistor with DHT22
[22:55] <chrislp> gordonDragon Thanks a lot for your time :)
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[22:55] <Yohio> not sure if it's needed but I tested it with Pi and it worked just fine
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> the rht03 is similar enough to the dht22 to work.
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> technically you need a 10K pull-up.
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[22:55] <gordonDrogon> but it works without.
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[22:58] <chrislp> Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate it
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[23:31] <ClepCidre> anyone for hlp in quake
[23:31] <ClepCidre> i m stoped when i jump
[23:32] <ClepCidre> i have to press again forard key
[23:32] <ClepCidre> did you imagine playing quake 3 without jumping
[23:32] <ClepCidre> it s like a good meal without cheese
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[23:59] <ClepCidre> still nobody for my key jump matters
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