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IRC Log for 2015-02-17

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[0:58] <plugwash> I HATE twitter
[1:00] <horny-sama> plugwash: I have a question
[1:01] <horny-sama> I restarted my raspbian
[1:01] <horny-sama> then I did the nmap thing over again
[1:01] <horny-sama> and ssh pi@192.168.0.2 does not work :<
[1:02] <horny-sama> or is it one of the slow startup thing with rasp pi
[1:03] <horny-sama> now my fedora terminal is stuck after typing ssh pi@192.168.0.102
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[1:03] <horny-sama> did I break sth?
[1:04] <plugwash> does ctrl+c work?
[1:04] <horny-sama> plugwash: it works
[1:04] <plugwash> connections can take a while to time out if there is nothing listening on the other end
[1:04] <horny-sama> plugwash: I have a feeling that I broke the raspbian os
[1:04] <horny-sama> :<
[1:05] <horny-sama> the sudo apt-get upgrade process went zombie on me so a kill -9 it then sudo shutdown -h now
[1:05] * plugwash would try again, if it still doesn't work then it's probablly time to get the pi to a monitor :/
[1:05] <horny-sama> unplug and replug
[1:05] <diederik> horny-sama: next time you use the ssh command, add 1 or more 'v' parameters (ie -vv)
[1:05] <horny-sama> diederik: like?
[1:06] <plugwash> diederik, doubt it will help much
[1:06] <horny-sama> http://www.fpaste.org/186312/13517914/
[1:06] <diederik> it should at least give you more detail about the progress of the ssh command, which may give a clie
[1:06] <plugwash> IME it's pretty rare to get anything other than a successfull connection or no answer at all
[1:06] <horny-sama> I guess is monitor time
[1:07] <horny-sama> possibly reinstall raspbian
[1:10] <horny-sama> works with a montior
[1:10] <diederik> you may try reinstalling openssh-server
[1:12] <horny-sama> diederik: on my pi or my fedora ?
[1:12] <diederik> on your pi
[1:12] <diederik> http://paste.debian.net/150117/
[1:13] <diederik> ^^ that's part of the output I get when ssh-ing into my pi (jessie)
[1:13] <horny-sama> ok
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[1:25] <plugwash> btw diederik everything you should need from me for pi2 support is now in the repos
[1:26] <plugwash> so you should be able to get started on your bit
[1:26] <diederik> ok, thanks!
[1:27] <plugwash> (note: the kernels don't have device-tree markers currently so they will boot in non device-tree mode, I will change this if/when I figure out why my pi1 kernel won't boot in device tree mode)
[1:28] <diederik> I've just done an 'aptitude update' but it seems the bootloader is still on version 20141219 (on jessie)
[1:29] <horny-sama> plugwash, diederik no need for reinstalling
[1:29] <horny-sama> it works
[1:29] <horny-sama> raspberry behavior is sometimes unpredictable
[1:30] <plugwash> diederik, hmm, I guess I got so tied up in dependencies related to the kernel that I forgot about the bootloader
[1:30] <plugwash> good catch
[1:31] <diederik> it looks like 'linux-image-rpi-rpfv' isn't part of jessie (linux-image-rpi2-rpfv is though)
[1:31] <horny-sama> plugwash, diederik: If it do sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and http://www.fpaste.org/186314/14241366/ it will try to connect to the wifi by the ordering ?
[1:32] <diederik> I think so, but not sure
[1:33] <plugwash> diederik, thanks for putting an extra set of eyes on this stuff
[1:33] <horny-sama> btw, raspbian is way faster from the last time I try it which is 1/2 yr ago
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[1:36] <horny-sama> plugwash, diederik: how to I configure it so it will connect to a wifi with username
[1:36] <horny-sama> not just ssid
[1:36] <horny-sama> I mean my school wifi requires an username
[1:37] <diederik> plugwash: regarding dt-markers ... should I therfor disable DT in config.txt?
[1:37] <plugwash> no, don't put any dt settings at all, that way it will look at the markers
[1:38] <plugwash> and I will add the markers if/when the time is right
[1:38] <diederik> ah ok. I thought that the firmware automatically tried dt 'things' except when told not to.
[1:39] <diederik> I guess I'll find out tomorrow (kinda late here now)
[1:40] <horny-sama> is a tunnel tls
[1:43] <plugwash> ok the lack of a linux-image-rpi-rpfv metapackage in jessie is a screwup forward porting the metapackage changes from wheezy to jessie, i'll fix that
[1:43] <plugwash> the firmware was just me forgetting to upload
[1:44] <diederik> ah ok, thanks :)
[1:45] <eggy> there raspbain builds for rp2 yet?
[1:47] <plugwash> please define what you mean by "raspbian builds" so your question is answerable
[1:48] <eggy> guess I mean, is there an image targeted at ARMv7
[1:49] <diederik> the raspbian images on the rpf website from 2015-01-30 have a kernel which supports ARMv7
[1:51] <plugwash> depends what you mean by "targetted at armv7", the raspaberry pi foundation raspbian images have both armv6 and armv7 kernels but the userland is still raspbian which targets armv6
[1:52] <eggy> Ah, was wondering if there was a v7 userland
[1:52] <plugwash> raspbian will always remain an armv6 userland, if you want an armv7 userland that is what debian armhf is for
[1:52] <plugwash> or ubuntu armhf
[1:52] <plugwash> or whatever
[1:52] <eggy> k
[1:53] <plugwash> having said that tests so-far seem to be showing that the performance differences between armv6 and armv7 userlands are negligable in most cases
[1:55] <eggy> ah
[1:58] <plugwash> diederik, the issues you reported should now be fixed in the internal repo ( http://plugwash.raspbian.org/jessietest/private/ ), the fixes should hit the public repo with the next update run
[1:59] <diederik> excellent, thanks. Will start working on it tomorrow :)
[2:00] <eggy> get my rpi2 tomorrow
[2:00] <eggy> wondering what I'll do with it
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[2:21] <horny-sama> this is killing me the usb wireless is now flashing
[2:21] <horny-sama> but it could not connect to the internet
[2:21] <horny-sama> fuck
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[2:35] <horny-sama> plugwash: are you still here
[2:35] <plugwash> yes but wireless is NOT my area of expertise
[2:36] <horny-sama> plugwash: I ssh into my raspberry pi but the issue is in order to save the changes I did using wicd-curses I must click f10 to save but everytime I click f10 it will just open file tab in my ssh shell
[2:37] <plugwash> what terminal app are you using? does it have a settings dialog? if so is there an option in there to turn that misfeature off?
[2:38] <plugwash> (when i've run into that misfeature i've generally managed to figure out how to turn it off)
[2:38] <horny-sama> window key f10 seems to work
[2:38] <horny-sama> plugwash: terminal ssh?
[2:39] <plugwash> presumablly you are running ssh in some terminal emulator on your desktop
[2:39] <horny-sama> let me shut it down to see if my wifi works or not
[2:39] <horny-sama> ?
[2:39] <plugwash> and you need to find the settings for that terminal app to disable the "F10 menu" misfeature
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[3:20] <whinis> So I am fairly lost whenever it comes to graphics, is there any way to force a certain section of the screen to be reserved for buttons? like on a touchscreen ?
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[3:30] <horny-sama> sudo update-rc.d hostapd enable
[3:30] <horny-sama> update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
[3:30] <horny-sama> update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks to modify, aborting!
[3:30] <horny-sama> tips?
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[4:28] <horny-sama> dammit setting up a rasp pi with wifi connection and ap point at the same point has proven to be impossible
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[4:46] <horny-sama> anyone still alive here?
[4:47] <horny-sama> I did hostname -I to find my rasp pi ip so I can do ssh pi@192.168.0.104 and it would not connect so I did a nmap scan and my pi isn't detected :<
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[8:27] <fgtr> hi all
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[8:29] <fgtr_> can you help me with installing the duckdns? i'm confused with its pi installation
[8:31] <fgtr_> anyone?
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[8:37] <_AtilA_> Hi!
[8:38] <_AtilA_> Probably not the best time frame to ask something...
[8:44] <_AtilA_> I'll come back later, bye!
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[9:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:51] <kkmic> Hello
[10:52] <kkmic> Anyone here that can answer me a security-related question?
[10:53] <shiftplusone> depends on the question
[10:53] <kkmic> Well, here it goes
[10:54] <kkmic> I bought a Pi recently and I have installed the latest Raspbian on it
[10:54] <kkmic> I ssh to it from my desktop at home, but I want to be able to ssh to it from work
[10:55] <kkmic> (this means forwarding the port 22 from my router)
[10:55] <shiftplusone> uhu
[10:55] <kkmic> Question: if I forward the port 22, is there any other default raspbian user (except for "pi") that can connect to ssh?
[10:56] <kkmic> *that can connect through ssh
[10:56] <shiftplusone> nope
[10:57] <kkmic> Good
[10:58] <kkmic> So if I take care of the pi user (public/private key or secure password) there is no risk if I "open" the port 22 on my Pi...
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[10:58] <kkmic> Thanks for the information shiftplusone
[11:00] <shiftplusone> yeah, I always disable root and password logins just in case.
[11:00] <shiftplusone> If I'm extra paranoid, I also change the port and install something like fail2ban
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[11:04] <kkmic> I should mention that I'm a linux fan, but far from an expert :)
[11:04] <kkmic> *from being an expert
[11:04] <shiftplusone> don't worry, there are no linux experts.
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[11:05] <kkmic> Well, I am sure that there are a lot of people who know more Linux-related stuff than me...
[11:05] <ShorTie> who want to be an expert any ways ??
[11:06] <kkmic> I don't have the time, TBH
[11:06] <ShorTie> expert = has been drip under pressure
[11:06] <kkmic> Anyhow, interesting idea with the port change
[11:06] <kkmic> Any good port recommendations? 25 is usually used by the mail daemon..
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[11:07] <shiftplusone> random high number
[11:07] <kkmic> Above 1000?
[11:07] <shiftplusone> over 9000
[11:07] <kkmic> I see
[11:07] <kkmic> Noted
[11:08] <shiftplusone> (it doesn't matter)
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[11:09] <kkmic> Question about passwordless logins: I should have one sudoer that can only ssh to my Pi with a public/private key and one backup sudoer that can only login with a password locally just in case?
[11:09] <shiftplusone> though I'm reading about privileged ports now and am not sure if it's important here or not.
[11:10] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't do it that way
[11:10] <kkmic> How would you recommend to do it?
[11:10] <shiftplusone> Not sure. On the server where I care about security, I don't even have sudo installed.
[11:11] <shiftplusone> just a longass root password which I with su.
[11:11] <kkmic> I see. In my case, we're talking about mid-level security... it's a personal device, not something with enterprise secrets on it
[11:12] * shiftplusone shrugs
[11:12] <shiftplusone> whatever you're comfortable with
[11:12] <kkmic> :)
[11:12] <kkmic> Thank you for the advices and for your time
[11:13] <shiftplusone> good luck
[11:13] <kkmic> Thanks!
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[11:19] <antiPosix> can the RBP2b play video within a web browser through raspbian?
[11:19] <antiPosix> like youtube or CNN videos?
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[11:30] <newbie|2> can anyone please help with izone ?
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[11:48] <mig2> Sorry. What’s izone?
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[11:55] <morlenxus> Hey, i'm using the official kernel package raspberrypi-bootloader from the raspi foundation - but with an Raspberry Pi 2 i only have 750MB ram. When will the official kernel be updated (i don't want to use rpi-update).
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[12:07] <Draylor> when did you last update raspberrypi-bootloader?
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[12:10] <morlenxus> A few days ago
[12:11] <morlenxus> Version: 1.20150214-1
[12:11] <Draylor> k, thats the latest. uname -a shows what?
[12:11] <morlenxus> oh wait
[12:11] <morlenxus> Stop
[12:12] <morlenxus> My bad. :D
[12:12] <morlenxus> I got confused with news about kernels limiting mem for older applications and my own gpu mem setting to 256mb
[12:12] <morlenxus> Sorry
[12:12] <morlenxus> :)
[12:12] <morlenxus> Everything is alright.
[12:13] <Draylor> :) that package has had appropriate firmware/kernels for the last few weeks now
[12:13] <Draylor> had to be some variation on user error
[12:13] <morlenxus> :)
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[13:04] <Macaveli> Hi! If I would buy the 3G module for raspberry pi, can other devices connect to it via wifi?
[13:04] <Macaveli> or only the rasp?
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[13:10] <ppq> Macaveli, if you have a wifi thing whose driver supports AP mode, you can "share" the 3G connection via wifi, yes
[13:10] <Macaveli> ppq is that easy / medium / hard
[13:10] <Macaveli> I'm a beginner
[13:11] <ppq> if you use network-manager it's easy. the hard part is choosing the wifi adapter
[13:12] <ppq> if you don't use network-manager it's harder, you need to set up hostapd and a dhcp server
[13:14] <ppq> wait, network-manager supports only ad-hoc mode for wifi
[13:14] <ppq> for AP mode you need to do it the hard way
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[13:24] <Macaveli> okie
[13:24] <Macaveli> thanks for the info
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[13:58] <sine0> ok so im using wheezy and i want to update gnuTls
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[14:32] <BLueKat> Hi
[14:36] <BLueKat> Vaya mierda
[14:36] <BLueKat> Agur
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[15:44] <P1M> I arrived here (Logged) kkkkkkkkk
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[21:33] <alyyy> hi all. does raspbian have a way to login over ssh "out of the box", or do I have to hook up a screen and keyboard to set that up first?
[21:33] <alyyy> I'm using the latest version from the raspi page btw http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
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[21:42] <_AtilA_> Hi!
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[21:43] <_AtilA_> I'm a FirefoxOS contributor, and I'm working on having HardFP ABI support into the system
[21:44] <_AtilA_> I'm facing some issues and just wanted to ask for help, because you already have a full HardFP system on RPI :)
[21:45] <_AtilA_> (is it the right place to ask?)
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[22:14] <teclo-> hm what is /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf for ?
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[23:12] <teclo-> hi there I'm getting Error 404 for several packages
[23:12] <teclo-> tried 5 times already
[23:13] <teclo-> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main libnet-server-perl all 2.006-1 404 Not Found
[23:15] <teclo-> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main munin-common all 2.0.6-4+deb7u1 404 Not Found
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