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[1:44] <KC_Mack> purchased a noobs disk from element14
[1:44] <KC_Mack> shouldn't I be able to boot from this disk? or should I use it to create a bootable disk?
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[1:53] <plugwash> unfortunately I belive some distributors are still shipping cards with a version of noobs that is too old for the pi2
[1:54] <plugwash> so if you have a pi2 and it's stuck at the rainbow screen chances are you need to wipe the SD card and replace it's contents with the latest from raspberrypi.org
[1:54] <KC_Mack> got it
[1:54] <KC_Mack> thanks
[1:54] <KC_Mack> I should have done that to begin with
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[2:41] <carp_> hello
[2:41] <carp_> how can i make raspbian look like windows?
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[2:43] <shiftplusone> Set a BSOD wallpaper =P
[2:43] <shiftplusone> (I'll be back in a second with the real answer)
[2:43] <shiftplusone> https://kmandla.wordpress.com/projects/lookalike-windows-xp-classic/
[2:44] <shiftplusone> oh, he left
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[6:27] <topicy> i don't have any video/monitors compatible with my rpi. is there a vnc option or somehow i can customize it to allow ssh?
[6:28] <shiftplusone> ssh is on by default
[6:29] <topicy> k so if i just hook up it up to ethernet, it'll hit the dhcp and have sshd open on 22?
[6:29] <topicy> if so, that's awesome news.
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[6:36] <lordievader> Good morning.
[6:38] <topicy> goedemorgen
[6:42] <lordievader> Hey topicy. You could install xrdp.
[6:44] <topicy> i'm an idiot; i just realized i don't even have an SD card here
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[10:47] <desikitteh{HH}> anyone able to answer some raspbian-specific package questions related to irssi?
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[13:19] <Stanto> Has anyone tried following the steps for http://www.raspberrypi.org/quake-iii-bounty-we-have-a-winner/ on the Raspberry Pi 2 Raspbian image ? I'm having a problem insmodding dmaer_master as it kernel panics; I haven't been able to catch the error entirely because I don't know how to at present. Just trying to run quake3 on the new board with best
[13:19] <Stanto> acceleration.
[13:21] <TBJoe> I have installed a baikal server (calDAV and cardDAV) and it is up and running, however it doesn't really work. I can access the admin web interface and create users etc. but whenever I try to access a calendar via http://ip/baikal/calendars/username/default it doesn't work and gives something like "Sabre\DAV\Exception \NotImplemented GET is only implemented on File objects 1.8.7" Can someone help me? I use lighttpd and php5-sqlite for web/
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[14:04] <Ben_g> Hi
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[14:05] <Ben_g> I just recieved my RPI2, and it fails to boot.
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[14:06] <Ben_g> I'm using an SD card containing a restored image of the SD card I used for a B+ before, and it was updated to the latest kernel and OS version to support the RPI2
[14:06] <Ben_g> But on startup, the RPI2 only shows a colour gradient, and it doesn't seem to get past that.
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[14:19] <ShorTie> ya, that isn't gonna work
[14:19] <ShorTie> update that sdcard in your B+, then it most likely will
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[14:21] <ShorTie> your trying to use sumfin from a time before the rpi2 in the rpi2, so it has no clue what is what and what to do
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[14:31] <Ben_g> ShorTie, I followed a tutorial to update the kernel to the latest version
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[14:45] <tarner> Can somone help me out with issues i am having with a temperature sensor ?
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[17:45] <mouser55> Hi everyone, I'm having terrible problems with i2c. I have a model B+, and original model A. I did every possible thing I could think of to get this to work (I have used i2c on the Pi many times before), but I can't get it to recognize a single device.
[17:45] <mouser55> The odd part is, if I plug in my SD card and devices into the model A, everything works great!
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[17:45] <mouser55> Is there any difference between the B+ and A in terms of i2c hardware that I'm just not getting right ... ? Please help, this is driving me insane.
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[17:47] <dexta> evening
[17:49] <jakllsch> mouser55: other than the two i2c controllers getting swapped at one of of the board revisions, the i2c should be identical
[17:50] <mouser55> jakllsch: So can you think of any reason why this may be happening to me?
[17:50] <mouser55> Thanks for helping
[17:50] <jakllsch> mouser55: so, neither your A nor your B+ detect i2c devices?
[17:51] <mouser55> jakllsch: No, my A does just fine. I insert the same SD card in both, make the same wiring connections to my sensors. Works just fine on A, but I only see UU in one spot on B+.
[17:52] <jakllsch> tried using the other i2c bus in /dev?
[17:52] <mouser55> jakllsch: So I try "sudo i2cdetect -y 1" and I get the UU. Other i2c bus, as in "0"?
[17:53] <mouser55> I only see "i2c-1" in /dev
[17:53] <jakllsch> on the B+?
[17:53] <jakllsch> (... i don't actually have linux running on my rpi at the moment, hard for me to check things)
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[17:55] <mouser55> Yes on the B+
[17:56] <mouser55> No problem, I still really appreciate your help
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[18:10] <mouser55> anyone else care to suggest anything? would really appreciate some help. thanks!
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[18:23] <Getty> mouser55: .... now he is gone
[18:23] <Getty> damn, why people dont just wait a bit?
[18:23] <Getty> its IRC, not "instant chat"
[18:24] <Getty> one day people will understand that the world would run best if we all coordinate on the main topics over IRC ;)
[18:24] <Getty> i would call it "the collective" ;)
[18:24] <NoIdeaHowToLogIn> quick question: does raspbian include scratch by default? Buying a Pi 2 for 9 y/o niece, but she lives out of country, will take some time to teach her apt-get, and don't want her to get discouraged
[18:24] <Getty> NoIdeaHowToLogin: prepare the sdcard yourself and send it
[18:25] <Getty> NoIdeaHowToLogin: but AFAIR scratch is on by default i remember removing it for the hiveberry image
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[18:27] <NoIdeaHowToLogIn> Getty: definitely an option, and good to know re: Hiveberry. I was hoping to be lazy, but... yeah, I shouldn't be lazy :-P
[18:27] <NoIdeaHowToLogIn> Looking at (almost) all-in-one packages, since her parents are tech-retarded
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[18:30] <mouser55> Getty: I'm still here - sorry computer crashed. Read the logs to catch up. Sorry if I came across as impatient, I've spent nearly 10 hrs on this and am just a bit flustered. Will take it easy.
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[18:33] <Getty> mouser55: ah! ;)
[18:33] <Getty> mouser55: haha no problem, its just common for people to leave after they see no answer
[18:34] <mouser55> Getty: Yeah it's understandable when people are new to IRC, espcially the newer gen who are used to things being absolutely instantaneous!
[18:35] <Getty> mouser55: i also cant supply directly help, i might can dispatch you to someone who knows a bit more, but what i wanted to point out is that you shouldnt wonder about i2c problems with raspberry
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[18:35] <mouser55> What do you mean I shouldnt wonder?
[18:35] <Getty> it is known to be a troublesome implementation
[18:36] <Getty> i actually strongly suggest I2C => [ Atmega || other arm ] => uart => raspberry if you want to have something reliable
[18:36] <Getty> but .... dont feel hold back to find out what is your problem and open up some tickets somewhere ;) might be good if the problems are addressed
[18:37] <mouser55> Gotcha
[18:37] <Getty> should point out that this is NOT hard todo and not expansive
[18:38] <Getty> (thats why i suggest it price < trouble)
[18:38] <mouser55> I'd much prefer not to go that route, especially because there is only one UART, and I don't exactly want to have some MCU tagging along. I think I'll just switch to Beaglebone.
[18:38] <Getty> yeah for sure better choice
[18:38] <Getty> but checkout some real ARM stuff, thats like men stuff ;)
[18:38] * Getty is producing own ARM boards, or my dad does and i do the software
[18:39] <Getty> ok ok "boards" its our first now ;) he is an electronic jedi, did a lot of atmel before
[18:39] <mouser55> Wow neat!
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[18:43] <Getty> mouser55: are you doing this all "for your own"?
[18:43] <Getty> mouser55: like you want one cool device to manage some own home stuff? or is it a specific problem you want to solve?
[18:44] <mouser55> Getty: It's a robotics project.
[18:44] <mouser55> Personal project.
[18:44] <Getty> ok, i would strongly suggest to leave out beaglebone and co. and directly checkup some ARM evaluation boards
[18:44] <cils> hi all, ... just did a apt-get upgrade, ... now my /dev/i2c... is missing, .. any ideas why, .. was using the i2c bus to control a relay board
[18:45] <Getty> uhuhuhhuhuhu
[18:45] <Getty> I2C WEEK!
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[18:48] <mouser55> lol
[18:49] <Getty> mouser55: http://www.st.com/web/catalog/tools/FM116/SC959/SS1532/LN1199/PF259094 something in that direction
[18:49] <Getty> mouser55: or those if you want to stay cheap http://www.st.com/web/catalog/tools/FM116/SC959/SS1532/LN1847
[18:49] <Getty> but its worth it
[18:50] <mouser55> Does it run Linux?
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[18:50] <mouser55> Sorry not too familiar with these guys
[18:51] <Getty> yeah no, those are not linux, very low there on, but they do the hardware stuff in a dimension you will need
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[18:51] <Getty> beaglebone MIGHT be enough, but if you end up needing 2 it gets dirty ;)
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[18:52] <Getty> i see this in a split up mission, there is one thing that needs control the hardware, and you need a brain to control the thing that controls the hardware
[18:53] <Getty> binding those 2 together leads to beaglebone and raspberry which are "not so good" about the hardware stuff
[18:53] <Getty> (which leads to those problems you face right now)
[18:53] <Getty> its a dirty world!
[18:54] <Getty> i mean think about, most people who do their little server stuff with a raspberry, should actually get a 50$ normal powered PC board and attach an arduino to the uart ;-) (even its then "triple" the cost, you get 100 times more)
[18:54] <Getty> and dont get me started about the raspberry desktop users!
[18:54] <Getty> ;)
[18:55] <NoIdeaHowToLogIn> Getty, no worries, thank you so much! I'm TOTALLY new to IRC btw, can't even figure out how to re-login to the usernames I use, have to keep changing :-( Ordering the kit now, she's gonna love it!
[18:55] <mouser55> Haha nice, yeah I feel the same way. Normally I'd combine the two as I know their advantages/disadvantages, but the constraints of this project really require me to try and limit myself to one system. And I need the UART in general, so the single UART on the Pi won't cut it regardless.
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[18:57] <Getty> mouser55: see, the STM32 arms i suggested can do "all"
[18:57] <Getty> mouser55: i have 4 UARTs, some SPI, some I2C
[18:57] <mouser55> Yeah, that's why I like the BB, seems like a good middle ground.
[18:57] <Getty> mouser55: on aquarium hive (www.aquariumhive.com) we took a raspberry, connected the uart to an ATMEGA and this ATMEGA was connected via UART to several other UART controlled devices
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[18:57] <Getty> you just need ONE uart on the brain
[18:58] <mouser55> Interesting
[18:59] <Getty> the hardware manager the "skeleton" is the important part
[18:59] <Getty> there is also another problem with linux
[18:59] <Getty> which might be CRUCIAL for you: timing..............................................
[18:59] <Getty> linux is doing A LOT OF SHIT
[19:00] <Getty> which is bothering the management of the hardware
[19:02] <mouser55> Yeah well I generally work at a higher level. And I find it useful to have good internet access, SSH control, git version control, ability to write quick python scripts, etc.
[19:02] <Getty> yeah me too
[19:02] <Getty> i am with you
[19:02] <Getty> i talk as high level developer to another
[19:02] <Getty> and still everything i say is true
[19:03] <Getty> you _CANT_ solve being hardware with high level computers, you still want precise at the hardware stuff, and not delayed OS reaction (i mean "overall in the end in the big picture")
[19:03] <sine0> having a play with privoxy and it seems to be laggy slow, is it a bit much for the pi do you guys think/
[19:03] <sine0> i see in htop the cpu maxes out but then most apps when first called seem to do that ..
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[19:04] <Getty> mouser55: but as said: we dont talk about excluding here... stupid hardware clients are easy to make
[19:04] <Getty> mouser55: you still have your raspberry pi or other computer brain
[19:04] <Getty> mouser55: a good part here is also that you can take a REAL PC as "brain" and so got the ultimate power
[19:05] <Getty> mouser55: trust me, its fun ;)
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[19:18] <mouser55> Getty: Gotcha, I see where you're going with this! Will see what I can do
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[19:31] <Getty> mouser55: the point why i try to convince you is: i was you..... ;) i know what you want, but i was as fucked with that as you are now
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[19:32] <stanny> who
[19:34] <stanny> hi anyone got spotify working debian wheezy?
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[19:41] <HJosj> Hi
[19:42] <HJosj> I use Raspberry Pi 2. Which deb-package do I have to install: amd64, i386, i686?
[19:43] <Getty> [x] none of the above
[19:44] <Payo> :D
[19:45] <mouser55> LOL ty Getty
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[22:02] <Getty> such activity! so wow! much msg!
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[22:23] <Ben_g> I'm programming in python on my RPI and I got this error: "SystemError: This module can only be run on a Raspberry Pi!"
[22:23] <Ben_g> Why is it giving that error and how can I avoid it?
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[23:12] <Getty> a kingdom for understanding how dragging with snap.svg on a mobile device is supposed to work....
[23:13] <Guma> Hello I just got my rPIv2 and installed latest ubuntu core. Trying to use snappy to update but I am getting server certificate verification failed. error 60
[23:13] <Guma> Anyone sgetting this?
[23:14] <Getty> well the raspBIAN people might not have a good answer for that ;)
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[23:15] <Guma> Getty Is there a separate channel? Or Ubuntu?
[23:17] <Guma> Ahh. date not set. No ntpd running. Never mind
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[23:17] <Getty> what do i know about ubuntu on a raspberry ;)
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