#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-03-25

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[0:06] <q_> When using wpa_gui , why are there two of every network listed, and how do I choose the right one ? Actually Ive gone through both and can't get either to connect, iwconfig lists wlan0 as 'unassociated'
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[0:24] <q_> I had to manually change the type to WPA-PSK - is there anyway of determining from a network what type it has ? My ubuntu distro seems to do this automatically
[0:25] <buu> q_: Yes, its either open or wpa-psk
[0:25] <buu> There's really only two choices.
[0:25] <buu> Also, what's the cheapest way to power a pi?
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[0:29] <q_> buu, from a main ? I usually just reuse a phone charger
[0:29] <q_> of which I have dozens for some reason
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[0:33] <buu> Well, yes
[0:33] <methuzla> buu cheapest way would be with a USB charger you already have lying around (but may not be most reliable)
[0:33] <buu> How about the cheapest way that doesn't already involve owning it
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[0:34] <atouk> some tv's have a usb that have enough juice to power a pi
[0:34] <q_> you could steal it I suppose
[0:34] <methuzla> cheaper than free? not sure how
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[0:34] <buu> . . .
[0:34] <plugwash> well the cheapest way would probablly be to buy a really shit PSU from ebay direct from china but it really isn't something i'd reccomend, your system is likely to be unreliable and may be a safety hazard
[0:34] <buu> . . . .
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[0:35] <buu> Why would you buy a psu?
[0:35] <buu> And how is that possibly cheaper than a cord
[0:35] <q_> im confused
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[0:43] <cstk421_> why does the pi refuse ssh connections after an openvpn connection is configured and rebooted
[0:43] <cstk421_> ?
[0:44] <buu> rebooted?
[0:44] <buu> Its probably not listening on your subnet
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[0:45] <cstk421_> i can ping it just fine its responding just refusing connections
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[0:45] <cstk421_> i have to connect to a monitor and killall openvpn for it to shutdown the tun0 interface so i can get back in
[0:45] <cstk421_> strange
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[0:46] <plugwash> most likely openvpn is misconfigured
[0:46] <q_> is it possible to connect via AES in wpa_gui ?
[0:47] <cstk421_> plugwash: why do you say that ?
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[0:48] <plugwash> well the most plausible explanation I can think of for what is happening is that you have configured openvpn to direct all traffic down the VPN, even traffic that would normally be directed to the local network.
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[0:48] <plugwash> (assuming you are trying to ssh in from the local network)
[0:48] <cstk421_> yes i am. that makes sense ill check the config now
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[0:50] <q_> can someone paste the contents of there /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf pretty please ?
[0:50] <q_> I cant for the life of me get this tow ork
[0:51] <q_> sans password of course
[0:52] <buu> q_: I just configured mine in network/interfaces
[0:52] <buu> q_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10673991/
[0:53] <buu> These are the last lines of my interfaces file
[0:54] <q_> buu, ok thank you I will try this
[0:55] <cstk421_> q_: here is mine http://pastebin.com/CW34yY8E
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[0:56] <cstk421_> plugwash: you were right. i fixed it
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[2:14] <Chillum> neat, just found out about: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[2:15] <Chillum> temp=55.1'C
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[2:16] <Chillum> anyone got any idea at which temperature I should stop redlining the CPU?
[2:18] <Chillum> ah, the specs say up to 70, that is hot!
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[2:19] <Chillum> oh but that is for the old pi, this is on a pi 2
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[3:20] <charlie_sanders> buu, thank you! that /interfaces file finally got me up and running
[3:20] <charlie_sanders> I kept trying to do it the hardway, I'll have to remember that in the future
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[7:39] <zGrr> moin :)
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[7:58] <ShorTie> mornin
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[11:27] <stealthii> Hi - what packages are needed for wireless operation? I've installed wpasupplicant and wireless-tools, but the device isn't auto-negotiating with the AP
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[11:58] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[12:22] <shiftplusone> Chillum, you don't need to worry about the temperature unless you've got it in a box with no ventilation under direct sunlight in a desert the whole day.
[12:24] <shiftplusone> Chillum, you can only get it to warm up if you overclock all the things. When the SoC starts feeling a little warm, it will throttle those settings to cool back down. But it could still keep going higher and be fine.
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[13:21] <Tony__> Hey
[13:21] <Tony__> I'm having issues with the wifi adapter
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[13:58] <bigmac_> raspbian, are there 2 seperate partitions on the sd card? sdc1 for example will hold your config.txt?
[13:58] <bigmac_> or is config.txt on sdc2/boot directory?
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[14:00] <bigmac_> so, if sdc1 holds your config.txt/bootcode.bin then you will have to pull out the sd card, with a labtop make changes to config.txt?
[14:06] <Chillum> you can
[14:08] <bigmac_> im trying to compare another raspberry pi operating system to raspbian...
[14:08] <bigmac_> on raspiab, you can easly make changes to your config.txt at anytime...
[14:09] <bigmac_> this other operating system, these guys believe its good practice to have these boot options on a separate partition...
[14:10] <bigmac_> maybe good security, but inconvenient when trying to make changes
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[14:15] <Chillum> you should be able to mount it
[14:16] <Chillum> what other os?
[14:16] <Chillum> /dev/mmcblk0p1 /boot vfat
[14:16] <Chillum> /dev/mmcblk0p2 / ext4
[14:17] <Chillum> it should be like that
[14:18] <bigmac_> its kali
[14:19] <bigmac_> ls /dev/mmc*
[14:19] <bigmac_> /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2
[14:21] <bigmac_> ahh... thank you
[14:21] <bigmac_> mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/
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[14:25] <Chillum> good to hear
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[14:28] <bigmac_> so, raspbian, this partition is already mounted?
[14:29] <bigmac_> somewhere in a startup script?
[14:32] <Chillum> when you boot from raspbian it is mounted at /boot
[14:32] <Chillum> the other at /
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[14:54] <ShorTie> it's listed in fstab
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[17:27] <sill> is there any problem with gdb? I can't debug because of: "Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction."
[17:27] <sill> "handle SIGILL nostart" won't help
[17:27] <sill> because gdb tells me "The program no longer exists."
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[17:38] <sill> The illigal instruction comes from "/lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3"
[17:47] <sill> just upgraded all packages and the firmware, but still the same error. If I run the same program without debugger I don't get that error.
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[18:33] <Chillum> The start of my RPi 2 cluster: http://images.highinbc.com/RPi2_cluster.jpg
[18:33] <Chillum> still waiting for the cables needed
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[19:07] <wiiguy> Chillum what ya planning to do with it ?
[19:07] <Chillum> security research...
[19:07] <Chillum> WPA cracking mostly
[19:08] <Chillum> though I am thinking of setting up an arbitrary nodejs application server
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[19:08] <wiiguy> ah
[19:08] <wiiguy> why wpa cracking ?
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[19:22] <Chillum> just having fun
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[19:27] <atouk> out of curiosity, what software do you use
[19:28] <Chillum> I am using redis for queuing and messaging
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[19:28] <Chillum> and so far just perl scripts and aircrack
[19:29] <Chillum> though I want to have an arbitrary javascript application server at one point
[19:30] <shiftplusone> Chillum, !!!
[19:30] <shiftplusone> thief!\
[19:30] <Getty> never understand why people stack them, its like wasting money just to see stacked computers ;)
[19:31] <atouk> people like their girls stacked, so why not computers...
[19:31] <shiftplusone> Chillum, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2015-03-11%2022.37.48.jpg
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[19:32] <atouk> nice case
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[19:33] <atouk> what are the white wires. power?
[19:33] <shiftplusone> yup
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[19:34] <atouk> doing anything special. or just because?
[19:34] <shiftplusone> will build the archive.raspberrypi.org packages and images, maybe.
[19:34] <atouk> running as a cluster, or independantly
[19:35] <shiftplusone> I've played around with distcc, and it speeds up things quite a bit, but I think they'll be buildd or some job scheduler nodes.
[19:35] <Chillum> shiftplusone: lol
[19:36] <Chillum> I got a 24 port switch!
[19:36] <Chillum> what power supply are you using there?
[19:36] <Chillum> Getty: it is all about parallel processing
[19:37] <Getty> yeah other computers dont offer that ;)
[19:37] <shiftplusone> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371137561953
[19:37] <Getty> <scratchhead>
[19:37] <Getty> if i go to a computershop, and buy a computer, i will probably have more parallel processing as this cluster there ;)
[19:37] <Opinie> that's not really the point, is it?
[19:38] <Getty> well if you want to learn about clustering itself, as training, it COULD be intersting, but then it is just "slower", playing with 2-3 real computers (epecially if its about cracking something) is like making all faster and is the same process
[19:39] <Getty> its not like normal computer are that much more expansive, they are just bigger
[19:39] <Getty> but hey, if people want to have fun, its just like so awkward seeing people doing it with pi just for the sake of pi ;)
[19:39] <Chillum> Getty: That 5 stack has 20 cores
[19:39] <Getty> oh yeah its a pi2 sorry ;) must update my rant ;)
[19:40] <Getty> if i buy 2 computer from my computershop i will have..... ;-)
[19:40] <Chillum> while you can get more flops per $ with larger hardware the pis give you more flops per watt
[19:40] <Getty> THAT you should recalc for the big ones
[19:41] <Opinie> I sort of enjoy running stuff on pi (I'm using the older ones for now), because it has limited specs, and you occasionally have to think, how you're going to implement something without running into problems
[19:41] <Chillum> Looks like about 700ma at 5v when using all 4 cores at full speed
[19:41] <Getty> for a normal usage, yes, but if you put it to the max, you will see why the fastest computer are actually the most effective (i worked in data center, if you calc a cluster with 100 computer you calc all that in)
[19:41] <Chillum> no overclocking though
[19:41] <atouk> on the next episode, Getty discusses morse code in ham radio, hay rides, and acoustic guitars
[19:42] <Getty> heheheh ;)
[19:42] <Opinie> can I subscribe to the podcast?
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[20:11] <mado> hi guys, i got a more hardwarerelated problem
[20:11] <mado> but ill ask anyway
[20:11] <mado> my raspi doesnt connect to networks anymore
[20:12] <atouk> wifi or wired
[20:12] <mado> builtin on model b doesnt work (high RX error count, no TX packets)
[20:12] <peetbog> you mean the ethernet port died?
[20:12] <mado> usb NIC behaves the same
[20:12] <mado> and enc28j60 via SPI doesnt work at all
[20:13] <mado> atouk: wired ;)
[20:13] <mado> the USB NIC works on an other pi (model b+) flawlessly
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[20:13] <mado> also tried different SD cards, problem stays the same
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[20:15] <peetbog> lsusb will tell you if the usb nic is being seen.
[20:15] <atouk> i have a model b that wuits wifi and wired after it warms up. somethign went thermal. I i think solder joint.
[20:15] <atouk> (quits)
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[20:16] <atouk> gave me a lovely excuse to get a 2
[20:16] <mado> peetbog: the usb NIC is there
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[20:17] <peetbog> ok, one sec and I will connect one as well. will see where in /dev it should be
[20:19] <mado> only thing that is strange is the MAC the NIC has
[20:19] <mado> its listed as 00:00:00:00:1a:ec
[20:19] <mado> (usb NIC)
[20:20] <peetbog> you find that in wifi configuration?
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[20:21] <mado> ifconfig tells me this MAC
[20:22] <mado> (its wired, not wifi!)
[20:25] <peetbog> good luck. but doesn't that rule out the problem being the pi?
[20:26] <mado> i guess its the pi
[20:26] <mado> but i just dont get it why it wont work
[20:26] <mado> everything else works fine
[20:26] <mado> just networking is f*cked
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[20:27] <peetbog> I am trying to make the transition to lsblk, ifconfig, and the like. I was spoiled by inxi script but don't see it in the packages.
[20:29] <mado> huh?
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[20:31] <peetbog> It is a large system summary reporting script that is found in a lot of distros. I do not know why it would not be in this one. maybe a arm computer leaves too many of the parts out.
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[20:44] <mado> wtf
[20:44] <mado> ok i got it working
[20:44] <mado> forcing usb to usb 1.1
[20:47] <methuzla> mado check dmesg for possible clues about what's going on
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[20:47] <mado> everything looks normal in dmesg..
[20:47] <mado> :/
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[21:21] <Chillum> shiftplusone: I am using the 6 port version of this: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/261743872398?var=560617505894
[21:21] <Chillum> cheaper than yours, but only 5 amps. I have not plugged in more than 2 so far(no cables)
[21:21] <Chillum> I hope it can run 5 Pis and my usb powered router
[21:22] <shiftplusone> doesn't look particularly trust-worthy, but it's hard to tell without cracking it open, I guess.
[21:22] <shiftplusone> much voltage sag?
[21:22] <Chillum> No idea. I am going to make it much larger than 5 nodes so I just needed something cheap and temporary
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[21:23] <Chillum> There is a nice looking 16 port, 16 amp supply for about $60 on ebay. I need to make sure 1amp per Pi is enough when they are all working hard
[21:23] <shiftplusone> fair enough. I was planning to add more of those swees supplies if I need to extend it.
[21:23] <shiftplusone> but I think 5 nodes is enough for my needs.
[21:24] <Chillum> more power!
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[22:14] <Chillum> shiftplusone: It is running 5 Pi2s and a usb power ethernet switch without problem but it is a bit hot
[22:14] <Chillum> not getting hotter though, I think I am nears its limit
[22:14] <Chillum> that is with 4 wifi dongles too
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[22:36] <Chillum> http://images.highinbc.com/PiClusterDisplay.jpg <-- Using a cheap matrix display to show load average
[22:37] <atouk> is that total fo all 5?
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[22:38] <Chillum> no, they are supposed to be vertical graphs but it is sideways
[22:38] <Chillum> I need to figure out how to rotate the matrix
[22:38] <Chillum> something mathey I assume
[22:38] <atouk> the green pill
[22:38] <Chillum> the matrices I should say, there are two
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[22:40] <atouk> so the 4 tell the 5th their load, and that one adds it's own and drives the LEDs?
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[22:43] <Chillum> ya
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[22:44] <Chillum> https://images.highinbc.com/job_queue.jpg
[22:44] <Chillum> err I mean http://images.highinbc.com/job_queue.jpg
[22:45] <atouk> crackstation?
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[22:47] <Chillum> it is a word list
[22:48] <Chillum> a 200+mb wordlist
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