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IRC Log for 2015-04-05

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[0:00] <ksx4system> PhotoJim, this init.d script was copied from a working server (which I also configured by myself)
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[0:00] <ksx4system> both of them run self compiled lighttpd version (btw compiled using the same script I wrote by myself)
[0:01] <ksx4system> so it's actually identical setup
[0:02] <PhotoJim> you don't need the init.d script
[0:02] <ksx4system> well, I actually need it to start/restart it easily (as I do with other daemons)
[0:03] <PhotoJim> service lighttpd restart
[0:03] <PhotoJim> service lighttpd start
[0:03] <PhotoJim> besides why would you manually compile it instead of install it from a package?
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[0:04] <ksx4system> because I always do so to include/exclude functionalities
[0:04] <ksx4system> and it always works perfectly
[0:04] <PhotoJim> evidently not always :)
[0:04] <ksx4system> always, minus Raspbian
[0:04] <PhotoJim> it always used to
[0:05] <PhotoJim> in any event, if "service" works, just use it.
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[0:05] <ksx4system> I don't want (in most cases I'm not even able to!) ssh and start the service by hand *every single time* when the box reboots
[0:06] <PhotoJim> if it's installed correctly, from what I understand, the init.d script isn't needed to start it
[0:07] <PhotoJim> my guess is that it's trying to start at a point when dependencies aren't running
[0:07] <ksx4system> lol how do you think it's going to start without this script?
[0:07] <PhotoJim> how does it start using "service"?
[0:07] <PhotoJim> it does, apparently.
[0:07] <PhotoJim> service is the modern way of doing what /etc/init.d used to do
[0:08] <PhotoJim> anyway, you're dismissing my help so I wish you luck.
[0:08] <ksx4system> well, afaics you don't understand
[0:08] <PhotoJim> afaic you don't either.
[0:08] <PhotoJim> anyway, good luck with it.
[0:08] <ksx4system> starting (or restarting) service *by hand*, by typing "service lighttpd start" works
[0:08] <ksx4system> starting on system startup does not
[0:08] <PhotoJim> and what do you think "service lighttpd start" does?
[0:09] <peetbog> I thought init.d was auto start before x and .profile was auto start after x.
[0:09] <PhotoJim> how does "service" work on X-less systems then?
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[0:10] <peetbog> via init.d I thought.
[0:10] <gregoa> ksx4system: some thoughts: is this raspbian wheezy or jessie? which init system (sysvrc or systemd)? what happens if you call `/etc/init.d/lighttpd start' manually?
[0:13] <ksx4system> gregoa: it's wheezy, init based, lighttpd starts as expected
[0:13] <PhotoJim> it feels like a dependency-based booting issue
[0:13] <PhotoJim> if it's invoked at the wrong time it would fail
[0:14] <gregoa> ksx4system: ok, that rules out some raps. and makes it really weird ... anything in the logs (syslog or lighthttp logs)?
[0:14] <gregoa> ack, dependencies might be a problem, i.e. networking not ready and the daemon failing to bind to an interface
[0:15] <ksx4system> nothing weird in lighttpd logs, gotta check system ones
[0:16] <gregoa> I'd check `grep Required-Start /etc/init.d/lighttpd' and check the order in /etc/rc2.d
[0:16] <ksx4system> there's hash starting the line with Required-Start things
[0:17] <ksx4system> (yet still it works on Debian wheezy amd64 server)
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[0:17] <PhotoJim> ksx4system: different architecture... services might not come up exactly the same
[0:17] <gregoa> ksx4system: the hash is supposed to be there in the LSB headers. I'd expect something like "# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network"
[0:18] <PhotoJim> ksx4system: e.g. Ethernet is virtual USB on the Pi... it might not be up at that point in the boot yet but it might on amd64
[0:20] <gregoa> ksx4system: https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts has the documentation for the LSB headers in init scripts, especially the virtual facilities are relevant
[0:21] <ksx4system> well, that's the script: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=J30wLHrr
[0:22] <gregoa> ok, the LSB headers don't like insane at first glance
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[0:23] <gregoa> ksx4system: you can compare it to the packaged init script: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-lighttpd/lighttpd.git/tree/debian/lighttpd.init
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[0:26] <ksx4system> gregoa: well, I'll try with this one (of course modified accordingly to other lighttpd's path)
[0:26] <ksx4system> meh, still broken
[0:27] <gregoa> :(
[0:27] <gregoa> do you have a monitor attached where you can see any output?
[0:28] <PhotoJim> or a console might help too
[0:28] <ksx4system> SSH only :(
[0:28] <ksx4system> it's a headless box
[0:29] <PhotoJim> pick up a console cable off eBay for it, if you have a USB-equipped box near it... that would help
[0:30] <ksx4system> picking up HDMI cable will be faster
[0:30] <ksx4system> but not possible right now
[0:30] <ksx4system> (will be in few hours)
[0:30] <gregoa> probably unrelated but who knows: https://bugs.debian.org/705338
[0:31] <ksx4system> omg wtf it's related
[0:31] <gregoa> oh :)
[0:31] <ksx4system> got my /var/log on tmpfs :D
[0:31] <gregoa> hehe
[0:31] <PhotoJim> so the system isn't identical :)
[0:31] <PhotoJim> presumably it'd break on that amd64 system if you used tmpfs there too :)
[0:31] <ksx4system> yup, 2Gbs of ram there so everything possible runs off ramdisks
[0:31] <PhotoJim> hopefully that solves it
[0:32] <ksx4system> ok, so I've got to reconstruct my /var/log tmpfs faster
[0:32] <ksx4system> (or - preferably - to delay lighttpd's startup somehow)
[0:34] <gregoa> I'm surprised that the debian init script doesn't work, which "depends" on the $syslog facility. seems like syslog can run without checking for /var/log ...
[0:34] <ksx4system> well, did a dirty hack and rebooted
[0:34] <ksx4system> I wonder if it'll work :D
[0:34] <gregoa> like "sleep 5"? :)
[0:35] <ksx4system> worse, "root@fuchsia:/etc/rc2.d# mv S02lighttpd S99lighttpd"
[0:35] <ksx4system> doesn't work anyway
[0:36] <gregoa> yeah, it's probably still started in parallel as soon as all dependencies are there
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[0:36] <gregoa> how/where/when do you created the tmpfs?
[0:37] <ksx4system> tmpfs runs off fstab, I'm not copying contents of existing /var/log (and others) on SD card - I just recreate directories and files with correct permissions and ownerships
[0:37] <ksx4system> I did it after installation of lighttpd if it matters
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[0:38] <gregoa> hm, strange. stuff from fstab should be mounted before any init scripts run, I would presume
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[0:41] <gregoa> are you recreation /var/log or /var/log/lighttpd in fstab? if only the former, a simple "mkdir -p /var/log/lighttpd" in the init script might help
[0:42] <ksx4system> script with a lot of mkdirs, chmods, touches in /etc/rc.local :)
[0:42] <gregoa> that's too late, rc.local gets run as the last script
[0:42] <ksx4system> that's how I recreate stuff inside tmpfs
[0:42] <ksx4system> well, maybe simple "service lighttpd start" would work? another dirty hack but... ;)
[0:43] <gregoa> I guess you either need to move the lighthttpd stuff into the init script; or disable the init script and start it from rc.local
[0:43] <gregoa> yes, that :)
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[0:44] <ksx4system> trying...
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[0:46] <ksx4system> fuck yeah, this one works
[0:46] <ksx4system> dirty hacks for life
[0:47] <gregoa> yay \o/
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[7:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[12:33] <turtlehat> can i rename a script that i made in /etc/rc0.d (using update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults) without borking my system?
[12:33] <turtlehat> to change the order of execution..
[12:33] <lordievader> turtlehat: Scripts in /etc/rc*.d are only symlinks.
[12:34] <turtlehat> yea but im told the ascibetical order of those symlinks determine order of execution
[12:34] <turtlehat> so i figured if i renamed my script from K0script to K4script, it would execution later
[12:34] <turtlehat> after scripts K0 through K3
[12:34] <turtlehat> at least
[12:35] <turtlehat> its only for a runlevel 0
[12:35] <turtlehat> and i want to get the script executing as close to machine halt as possible
[12:35] <turtlehat> preferably right before power is cut
[12:36] <lordievader> Correct.
[12:41] <Jusii> look start of those scrpts its defined there how update-rc arranges them
[12:42] <Jusii> on mobile so cant give examples
[12:43] <Jusii> in plain english first 10 lines or so
[12:44] <Jusii> if you just rename yourself then if something runs update-rc later it will rename them back
[12:45] <lordievader> Or you remove it with update-rc and add it again with a different level.
[12:48] <turtlehat> well i have it running in rc0.d but how do i set order with update-rc.d ?
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[12:49] <turtlehat> i would like it to run after K03
[12:49] <turtlehat> but update-rc.d seems to put it at K0 even if i have Defaults-Stop: <empty>
[12:50] <turtlehat> eh i mean Required-Stop
[12:51] <turtlehat> i checked the man page for update-rc.d but its not making it clearer
[12:51] <turtlehat> perhaps im thick
[12:51] <turtlehat> :)
[12:53] <lordievader> turtlehat: update-rc.d [-n] name defaults [NN | SS KK]
[12:54] <lordievader> The NN | SS KK specifies the level.
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[13:06] <ShorTie> if your script is made right, don't you define the run levels in it ??
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[13:25] <turtlehat> ShorTie, not runlevels, but position in the sequence in that runlevel
[13:26] <turtlehat> anyway, i did it with X-Start-Before and X-Stop-After
[13:26] <turtlehat> thanks for the helps gauys
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[13:57] <vetri> can anyone help me with the codes to install (motion or mjpg streamer) for webcam (c270 HD) in raspberry pi B+ board of WHEEZY installed os??
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[14:03] <vetri> exporting the path in mjpg streamer goes wrong
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[18:27] <dragonlance> hello room
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[18:29] <koppla> hi
[18:29] <koppla> whats the command to extract qemu-2.3.0-rc2.tar.bz2 ?
[18:29] <koppla> i tried tar -zxvf
[18:29] <koppla> but it doesnt work
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[18:30] <dragonlance> sorry dont us flags when extacting just do what readme tells me
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[18:31] <dragonlance> cant you use the gui frontend instead
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[18:33] <koppla> dragonlance you talking to me ?
[18:34] <dragonlance> yep sory just making suggestions
[18:36] <methuzla> koppla try: tar jxvf
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[18:42] <ppq> you dont even have to specify the compression algorithm when extracting
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[18:43] <ppq> tar xf foo.tar.bz2
[18:43] <ppq> koppla, ^
[18:44] <koppla> ok
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[18:47] <koppla> could someone help with me compiling/installing latest qemu? http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page ive extracted it
[18:47] <koppla> but from there I dont know what to do
[18:49] <koppla> on raspbian pi2
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[18:51] <ppq> koppla, you want to install qemu on your raspberry pi? or do you want to emulate a raspi on a linux pc?
[18:52] <Kwastie> Hi, I have a weird "issue" with loading a (precompiled) library on raspbian. When I strace it "it finds" the library.. but for some reason it doesn't load it..
[18:52] <Kwastie> any ideas?
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[18:58] <koppla> ppq
[18:58] <koppla> i want to install qemu on my pi2. and then i want to run x86 sotfware on pi2
[18:58] <koppla> *software
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[19:04] <ppq> koppla, uhm, okay. that's a bad idea (horribly slow) but why not.
[19:06] <ppq> koppla, instrall zlib1g-dev and libsdl1.2-dev, then try ./configure --target-list="i386-linux-user" --enable-sdl --prefix=/usr/local && make && sudo make install
[19:07] <ppq> koppla, lets keep that in the public channel please
[19:08] <koppla> ok
[19:08] <koppla> ok
[19:08] <koppla> i will try it
[19:08] <koppla> hang on
[19:09] <Bombo> hey
[19:09] <Bombo> is there a way to minimize omxplayer? it always uses fullscreen
[19:10] <koppla> ppq
[19:10] <koppla> ERROR: User requested feature sdl
[19:10] <koppla> configure was not able to find it.
[19:10] <koppla> Install SDL devel
[19:11] <ppq> did you install libsdl1.2-dev
[19:11] <koppla> how do I do that ?
[19:11] <koppla> command please
[19:11] <ppq> ...
[19:11] <ppq> you should probably start with some basics
[19:11] <ppq> apt-get
[19:11] <koppla> apt-get zlib1g-dev ?
[19:12] <koppla> apt-get libsdl1.2-dev ?
[19:12] <koppla> ?
[19:13] <koppla> well ?
[19:14] <koppla> E: Invalid operation libsdl1.2-dev
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[19:17] <methuzla> koppla sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[19:17] <koppla> ok
[19:18] <methuzla> koppla but yeah, maybe read up on package installation
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[19:20] <koppla> ok now I have installed them
[19:21] <koppla> doing .configure now
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[19:23] <koppla> taking alot of time
[19:33] <koppla> ok finally
[19:34] <koppla> your command has finnished executing ppq
[19:34] <koppla> i would like to install this: http://wiki.unrealadmin.org/Server_Install_linux
[19:34] <koppla> ut99 runs on x86 software
[19:35] <koppla> what is the next step ppq ?
[19:35] <ppq> make
[19:35] <ksx4system> how can I fix rootfs (the /) being mounted twice by default (one time as /dev/root and second time as rootfs filesystem)?
[19:36] <koppla> ./configure --target-list="i386-linux-user" --enable-sdl --prefix=/usr/local && make && sudo make install <-- the make command has already been executed?!
[19:36] <ppq> i see
[19:37] <ppq> if there were no errors, you are done
[19:37] <koppla> ok i couldnt see any errors
[19:38] <koppla> now how do I apply qemu on ut99 ?
[19:38] <ppq> look for a ready-made vm image
[19:39] <koppla> vm = vrtiual machine ?
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