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[0:21] <cstk421> consoled into the pi and this is the last line during boot and console messages stop and no access to login. "random: nonblocking pool is initialized" and it just stops
[0:21] <cstk421> pi fucntions fine over the network ssh and such
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[4:18] <anunnaki> diederik: why would it not make sense? openbox is a wm.. lxde is a DE.. theyre two separate things. DE can and have multiple wms .. i dont use openbox.. i use fluxbox.. so why keep it around?
[4:19] <anunnaki> diederik:yeah just odd its a hard dep isnt it? i want to remove it because ill never use it.
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[6:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[6:12] <anunnaki> morning lordievader. Deathstar is fully operational sir.
[6:13] <lordievader> Good to know ;)
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[6:14] <anunnaki> indeed it is.
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[7:11] <Mikk36> Hey
[7:11] <Mikk36> How do i debug why the wlan0 isn't getting an ip from dhcp any more?
[7:11] <Mikk36> Was working yesterday, isn't working today any more
[7:13] <Mikk36> Manually setting the IP makes the interface work again, but I'd like to have the dhcp also working
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[7:55] <zGrr> moin :)
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[8:19] <mah454> Hello
[8:20] <mah454> I have a LCD touch 7 inch . please view this picture : http://pasteboard.co/2yrmq6DV.jpg
[8:20] <mah454> How can connect this to Raspberry PI ?
[8:20] <mah454> Raspberry B+
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[8:22] <shiftplusone> mah454: that's nowhere near enough information
[8:23] <mah454> shiftplusone: what's you need ?
[8:23] <mah454> I buy this LCD . but can not understand how can connect it to raspberry board !
[8:24] <shiftplusone> me? nothing, I can't help here. But if someone was going to, they'd need the product page for it, containing the datasheet, at least.
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[13:25] <shiftplusone> diederik: ping
[13:26] <diederik> hi
[13:27] <shiftplusone> I am not 100% confident in the nightlies bootloader package, so it might not be relevant. Only rpi-update and raspberrypi-bootloader (non-nightly) kernels are of interest there.
[13:27] <shiftplusone> But since phil is able to reproduce it, I don't think it really matters.
[13:27] <diederik> I'll try it with the rpi-update kernel too
[13:28] <diederik> The difference with before is that it now always crashes, previously I had to try and try again until it 'finally' failed
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[13:46] <diederik> same problem with the rpi-update kernel
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[13:47] <shiftplusone> excellent
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[14:01] <diederik> did you get any further regarding the power led issue?
[14:02] <shiftplusone> Nope, it's a little hectic here for me right now.
[14:02] <diederik> ok
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[16:31] <avrdude> how similar are raspbian and debian?
[16:32] <shiftplusone> 5. They're 5 similar.
[16:33] <avrdude> hmm, that's less than i thought.
[16:33] <shiftplusone> Raspbian rebuilds debian armhf packages for armv6 and sticks to debian wherever possible.
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[16:34] <avrdude> so, could you say that if a program or driver works in debian, it works on raspbian?
[16:35] <Chillum> generally
[16:35] <Chillum> not everything works with arm though
[16:36] <Chillum> some things work but not as fast as they would on other archs
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> avrdude: they're not binary-compatible (you can't take a debian .deb and expect it to work).
[16:50] <shiftplusone> And I think contrib and backports aren't available
[16:50] <shiftplusone> but as far as the main repo, it's pretty much all there.
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[16:59] <IsUps> Hello everyone
[17:01] <IsUps> I am new to Raspberry and i am going to order a "kit". However, i am comparing kits and there is one item that only available in one brand. It's "GPIO Ribbon Cable with Breakout board". Does it really necessary for getting started and what's the purpose of this board? Thanks.
[17:02] <shiftplusone> most of the stuff in kits isn't necessary.
[17:03] <shiftplusone> (including the specific thing you're asking about)
[17:04] <IsUps> shiftplusone: Thanks. May you take a look at this kit? http://www.robotistan.com/modules/catalog/products/pr_01_2900_max.jpg?rev=1425629221
[17:05] <shiftplusone> from that, you just need the power supply, ethernet and hdmi cables. Keyboard and mouse wouldn't hurt.
[17:06] <shiftplusone> I'm not confident about the power supply in that kit though
[17:06] <IsUps> Why?
[17:08] <shiftplusone> I don't know the brand and the cable is very long, meaning it might drop a fair bit of voltage before it gets to the pi. The picture isn't enough to go on really.
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[17:10] <IsUps> shiftplusone: okay, thanks
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[17:22] <IsUps> shiftplusone: the adapter is 10.5 Watt - 5V 2.1A output
[17:23] <IsUps> shiftplusone: seller says fully compatible and tested with raspberry. what you think?
[17:23] <anunnaki> what would cause startx to stop loading lxde.. yet sudo startx loads it? adding exec startlxde to .xinitrc will load something with lxde panel looking differently on the bottom of the screen and not the usual panel at top of the screen
[17:24] <anunnaki> IsUps: all kits are shady.. think about what a kit is..
[17:26] <anunnaki> IsUps: someone bundled together individual items to sell them as a whole and still make a profit and also save you money. only savig money becuase youre buying lower quality items.. most of that stuff is probably from some place in china. a simple crappy resistor solder can make that power source faulty after a month
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[17:27] <IsUps> anunnaki: where to buy? im living in Turkey
[17:27] <anunnaki> a good quality power source is important when it comes to devices like this. so might want to go and buy a decent one with a name you know.. and that has good reviews online. the rpi store sells a good quality one that they know wont burn up on you or give less power than what is needed
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[17:45] <IsUps> anunnaki: do you mind to take a look of datasheet? http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0f62/0900766b80f62b29.pdf
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[17:51] <ars23> hi! does somebody have an idea about this error:[ 18.254389] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup] ?
[17:51] <shiftplusone> Doesn't look like an error... more of a comment.
[17:52] <ars23> ok, but I can't connect to network anymore...
[17:53] <ars23> pppoeconf can't find an concentrator on eth0 if I try to configure an dsl connection. also, from gprs, it gives me an error from the modem... only thing that work is the usb, as I understant that on Pi B+ ethernet and usb ports share the same chip
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[17:58] <vagrantc> anyone tried booting the rpi2 kernel from the raspbian.org mirrors with a debian armhf rootfs/initrd?
[17:58] <vagrantc> it doesn't seem to find the initrd valid:
[17:58] <vagrantc> [ 1.470198] Unpacking initramfs...
[17:58] <vagrantc> [ 1.473664] Initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compressed archive
[17:59] <vagrantc> i thought the kernel being built on armv6 vs. armv7 shouldn't matter ... i'm generating the initrd with armv7 userspace
[17:59] <vagrantc> the rpi2 is supposedly armv7 capable
[18:00] * vagrantc ponders more...
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[18:02] <shiftplusone> vagrantc, should work, yeah.
[18:04] <vagrantc> ok, looks like the initramfs is actually bunk.
[18:05] <vagrantc> or not...
[18:06] <vagrantc> what address should it get loaded to?
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[18:08] <shiftplusone> if you specify followkernel or make the address -1, it will be aligned to some value after the kernel.
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[18:10] <vagrantc> address -1 sounds good
[18:12] <vagrantc> shiftplusone: that did it! thanks!
[18:12] <shiftplusone> hurray
[18:13] <vagrantc> does the ethernet require firmware?
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[18:15] <ars23> @shiftplusone do you have an idea about my problem. i really don't know what to do, I tried everything... 1 week ago it worked perfectly and now, it doesn't
[18:16] <shiftplusone> ars23, sorry, never h ad to use ppoe, sso no idea.
[18:16] <vagrantc> i should probably configure the NBD server to export the device it's trying to mount... heh.
[18:16] <shiftplusone> Not familiar with NBD... why not NFS root?
[18:16] <ars23> ok! thanks!
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[18:28] <vagrantc> shiftplusone: NFS is incompatible with mainline overlayfs, last i tried
[18:28] <shiftplusone> ah
[18:28] <vagrantc> would really like to get that fixed, but for now, just testing LTSP on the rpi2
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[20:13] <lucifer> Hi Guys
[20:13] <ars23> hi lucifer!
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[20:13] <Guest63500> I have a question regarding the GPIO drivers in Raspbian for Raspberry Pi
[20:14] <ars23> ok...
[20:14] <Guest63500> I want to know which module is responsible for GPIO control in Raspbian
[20:14] <Guest63500> here are the list of kernel modules in my raspberry pi
[20:14] <Guest63500> w1_therm 3325 0 - Live 0xbf0a3000 i2c_dev 6709 2 - Live 0xbf09e000 snd_bcm2835 21342 0 - Live 0xbf094000 snd_pcm 93100 1 snd_bcm2835, Live 0xbf072000 snd_seq 61097 0 - Live 0xbf05c000 snd_seq_device 7209 1 snd_seq, Live 0xbf056000 snd_timer 23007 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq, Live 0xbf04b000 snd 67211 5 snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_timer, Live 0xbf030000 i2c_bcm2708 6004 0 - Live 0xbf02b000 spi_bcm2708 6018 0 - Live 0xbf
[20:15] <Guest63500> but when I unload the module from my raspbian (with modprobe) I still can turn on or off an LED
[20:15] <anunnaki> anyone know how to fix a broken pcmanfm? or even how to diagnose it?
[20:15] <Guest63500> How it is possible?
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[20:16] <Guest63500> Basically I want to know In kernel space which module are responsible to handle the GPIO
[20:17] <ars23> ok, what library do you use to turn on or off an led? bcm2835?
[20:19] <Guest63500> None, I am using a control software called Codesys.
[20:19] <ars23> i was asking that because, as I know, some libraries that can be used to access the GPIOs just map the physical address of the GPIO to kernel space
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[20:19] <ars23> and write some values...
[20:20] <Guest63500> Hmmm so you think that software might do that.
[20:20] <Guest63500> But then it will be something like using sysfs?
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[20:22] <Guest63500> I donot think a software in usermode can change the value related to gpio in kernel except via sysfs
[20:22] <ars23> as I know, there aren't some special drivers for GPIO... ( i read on that subject cause I wrote a driver)... yes, most of the use the filesystem to map the address
[20:23] <Guest63500> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-patches/arch/arm/mach-bcm2708/bcm2708_gpio.c
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[20:24] <Guest63500> OK.
[20:25] <Guest63500> So here is my problem, I want to control the on/off values between the GPIO and the software using GPIO (so I can for example change this value)
[20:25] <Guest63500> So now without a driver the only way to do that would be hooking the read/write function in C,
[20:26] <Guest63500> But wait, in sysfs style system, some process in kernel have to read the changed value from the user space
[20:26] <Guest63500> What would be that function?
[20:27] <Guest63500> Maybe I explained it bad. I rewrite,
[20:29] <Guest63500> I have a software which are communicating with GPIO (make an LED on and off for example every 2 sec). I want to alter the value using a process in kernel mode.
[20:30] <Guest63500> So What would be that function to alter, I am sure my application is a user mode application so there is no direct access from my application to kernel.
[20:30] <ars23> ok...
[20:30] <ars23> understood now...
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[20:32] <Guest63500> So thats why I was looking for the kernel module. Because I could hook the functions in the module, and once something requested the value for read or write I change it
[20:32] <Guest63500> I was thinking that there must be a driver for GPIO in kernel
[20:33] <ars23> by default, as I know, in raspbian is not... but, you can find on internet one, just have to modify what you need to do and use it... in fact, some masks in functions that use ioctl...
[20:33] <ars23> just a second, to search something...
[20:34] <Guest63500> Kk thanks, I will wait :-)
[20:34] <ars23> a driver that was made for gpios... in this one, you just have to add a mask in ioctl and install it... https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32152
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[20:35] <Guest63500> I see.
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[20:36] <Guest63500> But one more question. This one uses IOCTL() to communicate with IOCTL, I am a beginner, but how OS can communicate with the GPIO without a driver?!
[20:37] <ars23> ok... just a second and i'll show you...
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[20:38] <anunnaki> anyone know how to rebuild or debug pcmanfm?
[20:39] <ars23> take a look at http://www.airspayce.com/mikem/bcm2835/ in init and read/write functions
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[20:40] <anunnaki> nevermind just saw thers a pcmanfm-dbg
[20:41] <ars23> just opened /dev/mem/ to map the addresses (memfd = open("/dev/mem", O_RDWR | O_SYNC))
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[20:41] <ars23> and assign a value to that address
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[20:45] <Guest63500> I see
[20:45] <Guest63500> This is crazy :D
[20:45] <Guest63500> Is it the case for I2C and PWM for GPIO too?
[20:46] <Guest63500> So there is no driver for I2C ?
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[20:46] <ars23> for i2c I think there is something...
[20:47] <Guest63500> Ok, so there is real driver
[20:48] <Guest63500> then what are those modules in raspberry pi w1_GPIO? is it a one wire driver?
[20:48] <ars23> sincerely, not sure...
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[20:50] <Guest63500> Thank you very much
[20:50] <Guest63500> I was spending the whole day to look for the GPIO module in my raspbian
[20:50] <Guest63500> now at least I know I shouldnot do that
[20:50] <Guest63500> I will hook IOCTL for controlling that.
[20:50] <Guest63500> Thanks a lot :-)
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