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[0:58] <pycoderf> diederik: are you around by chance?
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[1:00] <pycoderf> anyone know what files i can cleanup on the minimal net install? cant seem to update as boot is full
[1:00] <diederik> yes I am
[1:01] <pycoderf> diederik: is there a purpose to no lvm?
[1:01] <diederik> what do you mean?
[1:01] <diederik> lvm isn't installed by default
[1:01] <pycoderf> so for some reason /boot is 91% full so i cannot update as dist-upgrade finds a new initramfs and it won't fit
[1:02] <pycoderf> i am wondering how i can work around this
[1:02] <diederik> can you pastebin 'ls -l /boot/' ?
[1:02] <pycoderf> https://bpaste.net/show/e7bf405c2e5a
[1:03] <diederik> the best way to solve it is by using gparted (or sth like that) to increase the size of /boot/
[1:03] <pycoderf> yeah i already made / fill the card
[1:03] <pycoderf> do i need a reinstall?
[1:03] <diederik> you mean both /boot/ and / are (almost) full?
[1:04] <pycoderf> no just /boot
[1:04] <pycoderf> i see the new rcfixes this
[1:04] <pycoderf> i just hit every bug possible with this install
[1:04] <diederik> which kernel are you using?
[1:04] <plugwash> gparted can move, grow and shrink partitions
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[1:04] <diederik> kernel.img or vmlinux-xxx ?
[1:04] <pycoderf> root@piweb:~# uname -r
[1:04] <pycoderf> 3.18.0-trunk-rpi
[1:05] <pycoderf> oh how do i tell
[1:05] <diederik> ok, then you could delete kernel.img and kernel7.img
[1:05] <pycoderf> when do you expect 1.0.7 to be final?
[1:05] <pycoderf> i might just flash that
[1:05] <diederik> don't know yet
[1:06] <pycoderf> well its rc so should be stable enough its mostly the script hat changed right
[1:07] <diederik> I would take either 1.0.6 or 1.0.7-beta instead and specify 'bootsize=+128M' instead
[1:07] <pycoderf> what would be wrong with rc?
[1:07] <diederik> the thing that will likely change is the installation of newer firmware
[1:07] <pycoderf> but i can always update that
[1:07] <diederik> and that is the thing that takes about 10MB
[1:08] <diederik> I thought the problem was with too old firmware, but I'm now quite convinced it's DeviceTree that's causing the issues
[1:08] <diederik> there's anothing thing that should work
[1:09] <diederik> edit 'config-reinstal.txt' and add 'bootsize=+128M' to it
[1:09] <pycoderf> what will i break using rc if i can update the firmware
[1:09] <diederik> then move config-reinstall.txt to config.txt and reboot
[1:10] <diederik> nothing will break with RC
[1:11] <plugwash> diederik, well AIUI device tree mode completely changes the hardware handling
[1:11] <diederik> I think you're right
[1:11] <diederik> it also causes the power led to not work when enabled
[1:12] <diederik> and if I get a kernel panic, all I have to do is disable DT and then it works again
[1:14] <pycoderf> does the rc install from all repos now or still just the one?
[1:15] <diederik> still only from main
[1:15] <diederik> (unless you install from post-install.txt)
[1:15] <diederik> that change will likely come with 1.0.8 or 1.0.9
[1:15] <pycoderf> but i have to use full paths so /usr/bin/apt-get install raspi-config rpi-update
[1:15] <pycoderf> ?
[1:16] <diederik> chroot /rootfs /usr/bin/apt-get -y install <package>
[1:18] <pycoderf> got it. and i think if i recall right using testing for my release should work
[1:18] <diederik> not sure, but jessie should work
[1:19] <plugwash> note that testing now points at stretch
[1:19] <diederik> ^^ that's why I'm not sure about using 'testing' pycoderf
[1:20] <diederik> plugwash: you were right: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/issues/180#issuecomment-74445912
[1:21] <pycoderf> diederik: i will try testing for you to see what happens
[1:22] <diederik> you can try, but actually I'm quite sure it won't work
[1:22] <diederik> the base system gets installed with cdebootstrap and that doesn't support stretch
[1:25] <pycoderf> so just install jessie and then replace it in the sources.list and update?
[1:25] <plugwash> diederik, hmm
[1:25] <diederik> pycoderf: that should work
[1:25] <diederik> plugwash: yes ...
[1:26] * plugwash wouldn't be surprised if specifying "testing" worked but specifying "stretch" didn't at least if cdebootstrap is anything like debootstrap
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[1:27] <diederik> afaik cdebootstrap and debootstrap are 2 'totally' different things
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[1:27] <diederik> debootstrap does have support for stretch (in the jessie version)
[1:27] <plugwash> AIUI they are two implementations of the same thing
[1:28] <diederik> "This is implementation is different from debootstrap. It features a different package selection."
[1:29] <diederik> afaik they started out the same, but have diverged over time
[1:30] <plugwash> at least with debootstrap it looks up the release name you specify against it's set of "scripts" and if it doesn't find it then it won't bootstrap
[1:30] <plugwash> so a debootstrap that doesn't know about stretch won't accept "stretch" but it will accept "testing"
[1:31] <plugwash> I have my suspiscions that cdebootstrap may be similar
[1:31] <pycoderf> how long should an install take assuming no errors?
[1:31] <diederik> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.67_changelog
[1:31] <diederik> see version 1.0.65
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[1:32] <diederik> pycoderf: 15-20 min, unless you have a large package list specified
[1:32] <plugwash> ok it seems cdebootstrap won't bootstrap testing pointed to stretch
[1:32] <diederik> (also depending on the speed of the sd card)
[1:32] <plugwash> debian:/home/plugwash# cdebootstrap testing /chroots/stretch-amd64
[1:32] <plugwash> P: Retrieving Release
[1:32] <plugwash> P: Retrieving Release.gpg
[1:32] <plugwash> P: Validating Release
[1:32] <plugwash> I: Good signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>"
[1:32] <plugwash> P: Parsing Release
[1:32] <plugwash> E: Unknown suite stretch
[1:32] <plugwash> debian:/home/plugwash#
[1:33] <plugwash> at least the (rather old) version on my laptop won't
[1:33] <diederik> hadn't tested it myself, but I was afraid of that
[1:34] <diederik> iirc you patched the jessie version of cdebootstrap specifically on hifi's request
[1:35] <diederik> plugwash: got the same as you on a fully up-to-date sid system
[1:36] <plugwash> looks like even the sid version of cdebootstrap hasn't been updated for stretch which is frankly embrasing
[1:37] <diederik> correct
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[1:37] <diederik> also the response to various bug reports is not good (to be polite)
[1:38] <diederik> (mostly none)
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[1:40] <diederik> you don't have to do it for me though ;-)
[1:41] <diederik> I don't want to base the installer on stretch
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[1:42] <plugwash> diederik, at the least can you file a bugreport in debian
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[1:42] <diederik> yeah, I will.
[1:42] <ShorTie> you gotta add it into /usr/share/cdebootstrap/suites
[1:43] <ShorTie> i just copied 1 of the others
[1:43] <diederik> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754228
[1:43] <diederik> I will file the report, but I won't expect anything of it ...
[1:45] <diederik> Didn't get a response to 754867 which I filed 9 months ago
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[1:46] <plugwash> ShorTie, sure but if the cdebootstrap in stretch can't bootstrap stretch then it's IMO not fit for release
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[1:47] <diederik> I could specify other issues with cdebootstrap, but I think you get the point ;)
[1:47] <plugwash> sure, frankly this needs to be escalated but first we need the bug report filed
[1:47] * plugwash would go for a severity of grave
[1:48] <diederik> lol, I was thinking of wishlist
[1:48] <ShorTie> the os version also shows jessie
[1:49] <plugwash> diederik, hell no, this is borderline important/grave
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[1:51] <plugwash> ShorTie, that's normal-ish, iirc the reported OS version comes from base-files which hasn't had a post-jessie upload yet
[1:51] <plugwash> and i'd go for the upper side of the border and see if the maintainer tries to argue it down or someone just fixes it
[1:53] <diederik> bug report send with severity important (no bug# yet)
[1:56] <Chocolate_Chip> is it possible to run Raspbian on my smartphone?
[1:56] <Chocolate_Chip> that'd be neat to look into
[1:57] <plugwash> diederik, you are so conservative......
[1:57] <diederik> I know
[1:57] <diederik> Support for Jessie was added 2014-06-23 ...
[1:59] <diederik> bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783672
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[2:18] * ShorTie thinkz, if your nice and add a patch, you might get more of a response
[2:19] * diederik thinks cdebootstrap is basically abondomware so doesn't expect anything
[2:22] * plugwash is getting a similar impression
[2:22] <plugwash> any particular reason for preffering it over debootstrap?
[2:23] <diederik> no, it was a historical decision of hifi
[2:23] <diederik> and I now actually have a preference for debootstrap
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[2:24] <plugwash> the tricky bit is it isn't quite abandoned, the maintainer made his most recent upload just before the jessie freeze afaict
[2:25] <plugwash> complete abandonment is in some ways easier to deal with
[2:25] <diederik> correct. but it seems like only the most essential things are done to it
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[7:56] <TheOneRing_> hi for some reason I decided to upgrade to jessi. now networking isn't coming up correctly. I have to set the ip and the gateway manually which is quite stupid on a pi used as a server.
[7:56] <TheOneRing_> also the systemd daemon is running at 100% on one core...
[7:56] <TheOneRing_> have you heared something similar ^^
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[8:11] <TheOneRing_> oh and rebooting doesn't work
[8:11] <TheOneRing_> I have to unplug it ..
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[8:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[8:20] <TheOneRing_> ok killing systemd causes a reboot too xD
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[8:27] <own3dz> any alternative to irssi irc lcient to raspbian ?
[8:27] <own3dz> or anybody already install irssi ? i can't find "glib-2.6 or greater" deppendecy
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[8:29] <lordievader> own3dz: weechat.
[8:29] <zGrr> moin :)
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[8:30] <own3dz> i want to run in terminal via ssh, weechat support it ?
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[8:32] <own3dz> thanks, i already install irssi, just apg-get install :D
[8:32] <own3dz> i dont know if exist any package from debian
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[8:34] <Guest73367> alex1a testing irssi on raspberry
[8:34] <own3dz> :D
[8:35] <own3dz> sorry for spam
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[8:45] <TheOneRing> ok now with a static Ip its working again. I just have to login and kill systemd after wards systemd is started again this time not going crazy
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[9:20] <own3dz> how can i copy a file to my raspberry pi ? it is bridged with my pc, 192.*.*.84
[9:20] <own3dz> i need to copu a .json file to fix oauth in gspread
[9:20] <own3dz> copy*
[9:22] <lordievader> scp?
[9:22] <lordievader> rsync?
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[9:22] <own3dz> it is possible to do scp via putty ssh ?
[9:23] <own3dz> i dont know how putty gonna search local files in my windows
[9:23] <lordievader> Winscp does scp.
[9:23] <own3dz> filezilla doenst use that protocol ?
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[9:27] <Draylor> ssh to pi, run vi, copy & paste :)
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[9:34] <own3dz> i install winscp
[9:34] <own3dz> this is awesome
[9:34] <own3dz> :D
[9:35] <own3dz> and i finally can wrote dht11 sensor values to googlespreadsheet
[9:35] <own3dz> thanks @lordievader and @Draylor
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[9:39] <rkg> Hello. When I attempt a GET request to a specific address over ssl on raspbian it results in SSL read: error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0), errno 104.
[9:39] <rkg> I cannot ping the server afterwards until i reboot the pi
[9:39] <rkg> Could somebody help me figure out why this happens?
[9:40] <rkg> I have tried via curl -vk and a webbrowser
[9:40] <rkg> same command runs fine on ubuntu and centos clients in the same network
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[9:46] <rkg> Ok, then. Are there perhaps other community support channels for your distribution?
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[9:53] <rkg> Thanks for nothing. Stay classy...
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[12:02] <mameshane> I'm having issues with cron using @reboot
[12:02] <mameshane> it doesn't seem to be working
[12:03] <lordievader> mameshane: Have you tried making a file to /tmp from cron?
[12:03] <mameshane> I haven't. how do I do that?
[12:04] <lordievader> Add "touch /tmp/test" to your cron @reboot ;)
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[12:05] <mameshane> so @reboot znc touch /tmp/test ?
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[12:06] <lordievader> mameshane: For example, yes.
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[12:10] <mameshane> ok I added that line and rebooted
[12:10] <mameshane> znc didn't start still
[12:11] <lordievader> Did it create the file in /tmp?
[12:11] <mameshane> no
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[12:12] <lordievader> Hmm. interesting. Same effect when you run it as root?
[12:12] <lordievader> The command I mean.
[12:14] <mameshane> if I run the command it creates a file
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[12:15] <lordievader> mameshane: I didn't mean manually "@reboot root touch /tmp/test" ;)
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[12:16] <mameshane> at the prompt I typed touch /tmp/test
[12:16] <lordievader> Yeah, I know.
[12:17] <lordievader> Remove the file, change the @reboot line in the crontab and reboot ;)
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[12:20] <mameshane> didn't create
[12:20] <mameshane> I'm using crontab -e btw not sudo crontab -e
[12:20] <mameshane> incase that matters
[12:21] <lordievader> Hmm, user crontab...
[12:21] <lordievader> Wouldn't be surprised if @reboot only works when in /etc/crontab
[12:21] <lordievader> By the by /etc/crontab != sudo crontab -e
[12:21] <mameshane> sudo nano /etc/crontab
[12:21] <mameshane> oops
[12:22] <mameshane> wrong window
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[12:23] <mameshane> will adding @reboot znc be the right format for that file?
[12:23] <mameshane> the entries in there look different
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[12:24] <mameshane> ok
[12:24] <lordievader> It's still cron ;)
[12:24] <lordievader> Add "@reboot root touch /tmp/test" to /etc/crontab
[12:25] <lordievader> Oh, hey no need to specify user: @reboot touch /tmp/test"
[12:25] <lordievader> Without the " at the end.
[12:27] <mameshane> I had already rebooted with user in there
[12:27] <mameshane> and file created
[12:27] <lordievader> Guess, it supports both. Anyhow, cron works ;)
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[12:32] <mameshane> ok wonder why znc won't load then
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[12:34] <lordievader> mameshane: What are you trying to do exactly?
[12:35] <mameshane> start znc server at reboot
[12:35] <mameshane> I can start it manually with znc at the prompt
[12:35] <mameshane> it doesn't work if u use sudo znc tho. znc doesn't want to run as root
[12:36] <mameshane> could that be why it doesn't work?
[12:36] <lordievader> Sounds like you want to do that via an init script.
[12:38] <mameshane> so turn it into a daemon?
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[12:40] <lordievader> It likely already is a daemon, just a script to get it running.
[12:41] <lordievader> http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon#Debian-based_machines
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[12:51] <mameshane> I think that script is broken
[12:52] <lordievader> Perhaps, I have no knowledge of znc ;)
[12:52] <mameshane> after I create the file and set the permissions I run ' sudo update-rc.d znc defaults'
[12:52] <mameshane> it has some errors
[12:52] <lordievader> Can you pastebin them?
[12:53] <lordievader> mameshane: Do you run Jessie by any chance?
[12:54] <mameshane> http://pastebin.com/LK1xex1p
[12:54] <mameshane> don't think so
[12:55] <lordievader> mameshane: Did you copy everything? The things it complains about are in there.
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[12:56] <mameshane> yes
[12:57] <mameshane> I will retry to make sure
[12:57] <lordievader> mameshane: Copy everything from "#!/bin/sh" till "exit $?"
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[13:03] <mameshane> I can't see a exit$?
[13:03] <mameshane> last line in that link is esac
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[13:08] <lordievader> Ah, yes. I was looking at the Fedora one.
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[15:58] <asdas> Hello, is there a good FAQ list regarding a Pi/Debian, CUPS and AirPrint? I tried https://www.cups.org/documentation.php (nothing) and read a few old blogs and rejected patches. I would like to know more about the current state of AirPrint support in cups. Thanks. (I tried the CUPS channel a while ago ... so I ended up here ....)
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[18:06] <__raven_> hi
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[18:07] <__raven_> disabling spi via raspi-config disabled ssh access too (?!) any way to edit a file on the sd-card directly to make it work again?
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[18:19] <devster31> you'd be better off connecting a screen-keyboard to the pi, easier
[18:20] <ShorTie> try config.txt for spi
[18:21] <__raven_> ShorTie: tried that. no success. devster31 have no usb kb and mon atm. but ill reflash the card with the backup
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> "disabling spi via raspi-config disabled ssh access too" no, it didn't
[18:45] <__raven_> shiftplusone: i did nothing else but ssh does not work any more
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[18:52] <shiftplusone> so you've established correlation and assumed causation with a sample size of 1.
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[19:39] <stefan12> hello, I have a problem with my raspberr pi 2. It suddenly only able to use 640x480 resolution using hdmi. Any ideeas ? thank you
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[19:46] <fivetwentysix> Hello! I just got setup on my Pi accessing it through SSH, however I'm getting this after running setup man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[19:46] <fivetwentysix> How do I make these errors disappear!
[19:47] <diederik> fivetwentysix: dpkg-reconfigure locales
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[19:48] <diederik> (as root or with sudo)
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[19:49] <fivetwentysix> diederik: I already had en_GB.UTF-8 setup
[19:50] <fivetwentysix> diederik: do I need to enable other locales ?
[19:50] <diederik> no, that should be enough
[19:52] <diederik> what does 'grep AcceptEnv /etc/ssh/sshd_config' return? (on your Pi)
[19:54] <fivetwentysix> diederik: AcceptEnv LANG LC_*
[19:55] <diederik> from what system (linux?) did you initiate the connection to your Pi?
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[20:23] <redston> how i can kill every instance of an command gst-launch-1.0 ???
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[20:41] <andouar> bonsoir :)
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[20:51] <littlebit> hi people, I have setup a raspberry pi with raspbian do make a wlan do ethernet bridge, supplying a switch with internet and IPs. Everything is working great but all of the sudden I my wifi link drops out. A quick look at the syslog I have this entry: ifplugd(eth0) Link beat detected
[20:51] <littlebit> can someone tell me what is wrong??
[20:51] <littlebit> or missing??
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[20:56] <shiftplusone> plugwash, turns out that build (and one other) was failing because I was using -j5.
[20:57] <plugwash> hmm, how exactly were you specifying j5 ?
[20:57] <shiftplusone> as one of the dpkg-buildpackage options
[20:58] <shiftplusone> but to be more exact, in pbuilderrc as the... whatever the variable is that sets those options)
[20:58] <plugwash> the normal way paralellism is done in debian building is to use DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=4 (or whatever value) it's then up to the individual package build what if anything to actually paralellise
[20:59] <shiftplusone> Oh, I'll see if those packages build correctly using that instead.
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[21:15] <plugwash> note: the upside of making paralell building opt-in is it's less likely to break stuff
[21:15] <plugwash> the downside is that many package don't opt in even though they could
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[21:21] <fivetwentysix> ls
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[23:07] <gino_> Hello
[23:07] <gino_> the autoconf.h file.... is this really autogenerated? I'm trying to change a #define macro for i2c bus speed and this is the only header file that has it
[23:08] <gino_> so if it's autogenerated, where does it pull in and create a define for that macro?
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[23:09] <gino_> I suppose it must be defined in some makefile somewhere then
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