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[0:47] <devslash> Have any of you installed a media server
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[1:34] <devslash> Is anyone here
[1:34] <plugwash> yes
[1:35] <devslash> I want to install a media server on raspbian that is Web based to access music stored on a USB drive. What applications can I use for that
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[1:45] <scoofy> you could stream using pulseaudio?
[1:45] <scoofy> what do you mean 'web based'
[1:46] <scoofy> you could also set up an sshfs and access files from another computer
[1:48] <scoofy> maybe there are other methods
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[5:44] <BlinkyBill> What's the deal with the + at the end of raspbian versions?
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[5:57] <ShorTie> means it's a foundation kernel
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[9:22] <Cael> i think my SD Card is corrupted, or atleast free space is being incorrectly shown, i should have about 1.8GB free on my 8GB MicroSD but it sonly suddenly got 2MB Free, i removed 2 folders that contained a failed attempt of using my Rpi2 as a MC Server. i deleted teh folders via "rm -r Server" but i dont think the way free space never updated, the folder was really deleted/removed.
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[10:25] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: the + has a more general meaning. It means it's not built from a 'release'. If you build inside a git tree and the version you're building isn't tagged, it will add the +. (If I recall correctly)
[10:25] <shiftplusone> but yeah, for most pi users it will mean it's probably a foundation kernel.
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[10:26] <mildouze> Cael: Checked for a .trash folder ?
[10:26] <Cael> theres none to be found.
[10:28] <mildouze> Cael: df -h
[10:30] <Cael> doesnt show any either except 186Mb sitting in /tmpfs
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[12:22] <rockford> Hi! ( from rapian site: "Feel free to drop by the #raspbian IRC channel to say "hi") *done*
[12:22] <shiftplusone> welcome
[12:23] <rockford> Will switch raspian to jessie soon/sometime? ( from raspian site "ask questions" ) *done* ;-)
[12:24] <Getty> ?!!?!?!
[12:25] <Getty> they dont say "ask that on the channel"
[12:25] <Getty> cause we are the last who will find out ;)
[12:27] <rockford> "Feel free to drop by the #raspbian IRC channel to say "hi", ask questions or give feedback regarding Raspbian." full citation. I just wanted to do it right! ;-) Did not know that I am not supposed to ask that.
[12:28] <shiftplusone> rockford: no, not soon unfortunately.
[12:28] <shiftplusone> well, raspbian itself has switched to jessie a while back
[12:28] <shiftplusone> the foundation is lagging behind
[12:29] <shiftplusone> We're trying to finalise a wheezy image, but new issues keep popping up. Then the next image after that will be a jessie one.
[12:29] <buu> What's wrong with just dist-upgrade?
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[12:31] <shiftplusone> there's no 'jessie' for the raspberrypi.org repo. things like raspi-config haven't been adapted to systemd, packages haven't been moved across.
[12:31] <rockford> Thanks switched to a rpi 2 a few weeks ago und hoped for "newer" software. Anyway: Raspbian is really great I'll never switch to win10 on rpi!
[12:32] <shiftplusone> There are plenty of people who've upgraded to jessie anyway. Raspbian works just fine without the raspberrypi.org repo, as long as you know what you're doing.
[12:33] <buu> I just s/wheezy/testing/ and upgradded
[12:33] <buu> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ testing main contrib non-free rpi
[12:34] <shiftplusone> shouldn't that be jessie rather than testing
[12:34] <Draylor> indeed
[12:34] <shiftplusone> since testing is now stretch
[12:34] <buu> Technically yes
[12:34] <Draylor> and if you have any foundation packages installed then you'll have mucho fun with conflicts/breakage
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[12:34] <buu> I guess I never ended up with foundation packages.
[12:34] <rockford> Only problem is I had to self compile quite a few programs because the includes versions where much to old for me. With wheezy I now got the problem that some libs are to old and I am going to dependency hell if I try to change just theese.
[12:34] <buu> I just got the image from raspbian and dist upgraded
[12:35] <Draylor> since systemd isnt exactly an 'up'grade theres no rush :)
[12:35] <ppq> up-to-date software and debian are two different things. there are "fresher" distros that work fine on the pi, especially on the pi2. however, when it comes to documentation and tutorials raspbian is the best choice
[12:38] <rockford> Thank you, perhaps I should try to switch away from the foundation image. Jessie should be fresh enough for what I want. I prefere stable only like to have a few things like webserver (hiawatha), WM (fluxbox) and a few more in newer versions due to security fixes.
[12:40] <shiftplusone> bad logic
[12:40] <shiftplusone> security fixes were always backported
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[12:42] <rockford> Sure that it is bad logic? When I first installed hiawatha it was not even avaible in the repros. So no backports because no package.
[12:43] <rockford> Well I'll try jessi and see what breaks ;-) Could be "fun" to find out.
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[12:48] <shiftplusone> Well, if the package isn't there than the issue isn't security... it's lack of the packasge >_<
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[12:52] <rockford> Okay then turpialVe not working caused by package too old. This is why I thought "if there are packages that are too old to be useable then they are not maintened and therefore have neither security nor any other updates". Perhaps I just have a faulty logic ;)
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[12:55] <devster31> is raspbian jessie running systemd?
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[12:58] <twolife> devster31: by default yes, but just like in debian you can install 'sysvinit-core' and keep using the old sysV5 init
[12:58] <devster31> no, I'm thinking of switching to arch on desktop, so it's a good testing ground for systemd, I think I'll keep it
[12:58] <devster31> what's the package that provides the go binaries?
[12:59] <twolife> golang-go
[12:59] <devster31> thanks
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[15:01] <scoofy> at times, my usb keyboard+mouse stops working, and i have to replug the usb hub to make it work. is that likely caused by a sh*tty usb hub?
[15:02] <scoofy> in the syslog, i see 'usb disconnect' events. now i'm trying with another, powered usb hub (so far seems good)
[15:02] <shiftplusone> does dmesg tell you anything interesting?
[15:03] <scoofy> i'll paste it
[15:06] <scoofy> http://morpheus.spectralhead.com/txt/kern.log.txt
[15:06] <scoofy> this goes on all the time - like, it seems to be disconnecting all the time
[15:06] <scoofy> i'm suspecting, sh*tty cheap chinese usb hub is to blame
[15:07] <scoofy> or can it be possibly caused by low power? (right now i'm trying with a powered usb hub, no problems so far)
[15:07] <scoofy> attached: 2 pendrives, 1 keyboard, 1 mouse, power supply = 1A (iirc)
[15:08] <shiftplusone> Hmm, don't know.
[15:08] <scoofy> and also a hdmi->vga adapter, which itself also draws power from the pi
[15:08] <scoofy> hm, i'll try powered hub -> unpowered hub -> key/mouse
[15:08] <scoofy> to see what happens
[15:10] <scoofy> if it will work fine that way, then it's low power that may be causing it
[15:10] <scoofy> if not, then it's the cr*ppy chinese usb hub
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[15:22] <Link> I'm having problems with LXDE, says there's fonts missing - http://superuser.com/questions/908471/lxde-doesnt-start-fonts-missing
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[15:41] <shiftplusone> Link: I don't think the font WARNINGS have anything to do with it
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[15:41] <shiftplusone> it says it exited successfully... perhaps you have an empty session?
[15:41] <Link> hmmmmm
[15:41] <Link> well yes i exited it on purpose
[15:42] <shiftplusone> sounds like there isn't a problem then
[15:42] <Link> with the ctrl alt shortcut thing
[15:42] <shiftplusone> what were you expecting?
[15:42] <Link> i was expecting lxde
[15:42] <Link> i got a black screen with a dash in the top left
[15:42] <shiftplusone> that doesn't seem to be your default session
[15:42] <shiftplusone> try update-alternatives to set the session you want... or startlxde
[15:43] <Link> well it should be the right session as its the session i logged in on after booting the pi up
[15:44] <Link> its linked to a pitft screen
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[15:50] <shiftplusone> then it depends on what you've done between then and now. I haven't used my pitft yet, so I don't know what's expected.
[15:52] <Link> i installed the pitft - all still worked - and now it doesnt
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[15:53] <Link> all i did was install apache2 and a custom python script (as alias so) to turn the screen on and off
[15:53] <Link> hold on let me try to remove the alias
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[15:55] <Link> nope, stuck
[15:57] <Link> hold on i dont have anything important on here yet, let me try to just reinstall everything and try again and see what breaks it
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[17:29] <pii4> i have some qustions about the code on this site about working with gpio's http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_Code_examples
[17:30] <pii4> ?
[17:30] <shiftplusone> is the question that you have a question or is there a follow up question?
[17:31] <pii4> shiftplusone, the question is when i have the value returned from mmap() function
[17:32] <pii4> without aslr so the mapped area is always in same place
[17:32] <pii4> can i have a hardcoded address for each GPIO pin?
[17:33] <shiftplusone> what do you mean by without aslr?
[17:35] <pii4> i mean mmap(/dev/mem) will always return same address
[17:35] <pii4> and i will always have same pointer for *gpio
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[17:35] <shiftplusone> err, I'm not sure that's a safe or sensible assumption
[17:35] <shiftplusone> and if you just try to use the address without mmaping it first, linux will likely throw rocks at you for it.
[17:36] <pii4> yes
[17:36] <pii4> i know that i should map it first
[17:36] <pii4> i dont want to use those macro's
[17:37] <shiftplusone> ah, so are you asking about using a hardcoded offset?
[17:37] <pii4> yes
[17:37] <shiftplusone> yes, that'll be fine
[17:37] <pii4> i will do mmap, i just want to know is there any other way to find each address for each pin
[17:37] <pii4> instead of using those macros?
[17:37] <shiftplusone> have you looked at the manual?
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> also, are you working on a pi1 or a pi2? the offsets will be different.
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[17:38] <pii4> pi1 only
[17:38] <shiftplusone> The Manual: https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> study page 5, then read through the GPIO section
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[17:39] <nookie> hi people, i have a small question, i need to update gammu package, and i have added a ppa to raspberry pi but it fails to do an apt-get update
[17:39] <nookie> any ideas how to install newer packages?
[17:40] <scoofy> shiftplusone: my key + mouse is now stable, so probably it was lack of power
[17:40] <nookie> fyi: i have added ubuntu ppa to the raspberry pi
[17:41] <shiftplusone> scoofy: good to hear
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[17:43] <pii4> shiftplusone, the problem is that i cannot understand those macro's so i cannot rewrite them as functions in C
[17:44] <shiftplusone> pii4: have you looked at the wiringpi source code?
[17:46] <shiftplusone> might be easier to understand http://git.drogon.net/?p=wiringPi;a=blob;f=wiringPi/wiringPi.c;h=2382112500f688306003955fd97f21960b8562aa;hb=HEAD#l1306
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[18:21] <Link> shiftplusone: after some testing, seems like SSH'ing into the Pi breaks it
[18:21] <Link> at first it works, use ssh, its borken
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[18:40] <Link> shiftplusone: but now it doesnt even clear the screen, it just says 'xterm: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or KillClient on X server ":0"'
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[19:03] <Cael> is Java all that stable just yet in the latest Raspbian images? it's been having Flat out Exception crashes. when running a MC Spigot server (setup for 3 people.,)
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[20:23] <pii4> shiftplusone, can i even have a direct pointer to each gpio pin, so i can modify them when i want without those macros ?
[20:24] <shiftplusone> not quite, since you'll need to do some bitwise operations.
[20:24] <pii4> shiftplusone, is that possible to have pointer for example 0xb6fcd010 for PIN Number 22 ?
[20:25] <pii4> if i get the return value from mmap2() + those bitwise operations, Can i get that direct pointer to each GPIO PIN i want ?
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[20:27] <shiftplusone> You have multiple pins per register. You can only get an address for multiple pins. Then you need to write a specific bit within that register.
[20:27] <shiftplusone> So no, you can't have a pointer to a specific pin, just a specific set of pins
[20:27] <shiftplusone> and you'll have different register to set and clear
[20:28] <shiftplusone> and you'll need yet another register to read
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[20:28] <Jacobh7190> is anyone available to help me? I am a new user of Raspberry Pi 2 and I need help setting up emulation
[20:29] <pii4> How can i get that address for that set of pin
[20:31] <Jacobh7190> can anyone link me to a guide to follow on setting up emulation? Please and thank you
[20:37] <devster31> emulation?
[20:39] <Jacobh7190> I am trying to use the retro pi with my DS4 controller, but I cannot figure out how to install my nano bluetooth usb dongle. I can only find a guide using Raspian
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[20:40] <Jacobh7190> likewise I am also trying to set up a nano wifi usb dongle
[20:40] <devster31> what are you using?
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[20:43] <Jacobh7190> Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
[20:45] <devster31> I meant as OS
[20:47] <Cael> Jacobh7190: the easiest turn on and play setup will be Retropie Image
[20:47] <Cael> if you dont want to reflash your MicroSD ,theres a setup script to install and build the emulators
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[20:50] <Jacobh7190> As far as the Micro SD card, it only has retropie on it. So yes, it starts up into retropie
[20:50] <Cael> you can obtain the script @ http://blog.petrockblock.com/2012/07/22/retropie-setup-an-initialization-script-for-retroarch-on-the-raspberry-pi/ and the pre-setup SD Image @ http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/retropie-downloads/ it uses Emulationstation as an front end to the emulators, and while its trimmed out everything not needed for em, you load Roms etc via Network.
[20:50] <Cael> ok so you allready have the RetroPie image, connect your pi to your home network and it'll show up.
[20:51] <Cael> for spefic retropie issues its probbly better to ask over at thier forums,
[20:51] <Jacobh7190> I had it connected via ethernet, but I didn't see it under network from my computer
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[20:52] <Cael> if your PC isnt on the same network your kinda screwed. at the least can always use a MircoSD Reader + a VM Running linux .
[20:53] <Cael> to transfer things over,
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[20:55] <Jacobh7190> Alright I will look into that. As far as setting up the bluetooth/wifi usb dongles, is that possible with only Retropie? or can I run multiple OS's at once for them to work?
[20:56] <Cael> thats only limited by the size of your MicroSD but i dont know how to add retropie to NOOBS,
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[20:58] <Cael> if you want to easily setup multiple OS's while using RetroPie, start w/ a Noobs image and run the Retropie setup script ontop of Raspbian then you can go from there
[20:58] <Jacobh7190> As far as my microSD card, it's 32GB, so I'm sure it has room if I needed to.
[20:59] <Cael> wish i had a 32GB SD i only had a puny 8GB MicroSD when a friend Sent me my Pi2 as a surprise :P (which teh MicroSD was in use w/ my Android TV "Stick"
[21:00] <Jacobh7190> so I should reformat my microSD and start fresh with NOOBS, install Raspian, then continue? right
[21:01] <Cael> that'd make it easy to use RetroPie and multiple OS's yea.
[21:01] <Cael> and you'd be able to pick and choose which systems/emulators you have installed w/ the setup script.
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[21:09] <Jacobh7190> what is the recommended allocation size?
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[21:10] <Jacobh7190> 64kb, 32kb, 16kb, 8192bytes are my options
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[22:46] <shiftplusone> plugwash, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=108945
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[22:51] <plugwash> shiftplusone, thianks for pointing that out
[22:52] <shiftplusone> np
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[23:00] <plugwash> dare I ask about progress on the jessie front or lack therof?
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[23:10] * ShorTie thinkz, lack therof until the get the bugs out of wheezy
[23:12] <shiftplusone> plugwash, it keeps getting pushed back and is out of my control.
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[23:12] <plugwash> is the current blocker that you are too busy or that the collabora stuff isn't ready?
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[23:15] <shiftplusone> a lot of "Oh hey, I found this bug in <some random thing> could you apply this patch?" *insert round of testing* *repeat*
[23:18] <shiftplusone> mind you this is still wheezy
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