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[5:40] <anth0ny_> I think I borked my network configs. I uninstalled network-manager on Rasbpian, and now when I boot my machine eth0 is not present in ifconfig. I can run “ifconfig eth0 up” which brings it up but has no IP assigned. I can then run “dhclient eth0” which gives it an IP. my /etc/network/interface is : http://dpaste.com/2R9VA3M. Any ideas as to the right way to bring the eth0 interface up on boot?
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[5:42] <shiftplusone> /etc/network/interface or interfaces?
[5:43] <shiftplusone> the file itself looks sensible, but the filename....
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[5:49] <anth0ny_> shiftplusone: /etc/network/interface
[5:49] <shiftplusone> well, there's your problem then.
[5:50] <anth0ny_> let me take a look
[5:50] <anth0ny_> ah, no, my mistake, interfaces
[5:50] <shiftplusone> what happens when you run 'ifup eth0' ?
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[5:51] <anth0ny_> then it all works
[5:51] <anth0ny_> eth0 is present in ifconig
[5:51] <anth0ny_> i have an ip
[5:52] <shiftplusone> but it's not brought up when you first boot?
[5:52] <anth0ny_> correct
[5:52] <anth0ny_> I’m starting to think that the networking service isn’t running
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[8:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:24] <dexta> mornings
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[9:43] <root3d> hello everyone
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[10:33] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:41] <devster31> what's inside the raspberry-ui-mods package?
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[11:43] <ahop> any idea on why the ua-netinst fails on my RPi 2?
[11:46] <devster31> maybe it's written for the pi1, any logs?
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[11:50] <ahop> devster31 I have a headless Rpi, i cannot see any log
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[11:52] <diederik> ahop: which version did you use?
[11:52] <devster31> if you're using raspbian-ua-netinstall log is recorded to /var/log/raspbian-ua-netinst.log
[11:54] <ahop> but nothing happens, it even doesn't boot
[11:54] <ahop> only the red LED
[11:54] <ahop> even the ethernet LED are not lit
[11:54] <diederik> ahop: which version of the installer did you use?
[11:55] <ahop> diederik: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[11:55] <ahop> more precisely, this one: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.6
[11:55] <diederik> I'm aware of that project ...
[11:55] <diederik> ah, that's your problem
[11:55] <diederik> 1.0.6 does not support the Pi 2
[11:55] <ahop> ohhhh ok
[11:56] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.7-RC
[11:56] <diederik> ^^ that one does support the Pi 2
[11:57] <ahop> diederik, then it should be written on README.md of https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[11:57] <ahop> Obtaining installer files on Windows and Mac
[11:57] <ahop> Installer archive is around 25MB and contains all firmware files and the installer.
[11:57] <ahop> Go to our latest release page and download the .zip file.
[11:57] <ahop> ==> This link doesn't work for RPi2, it should be written somewhere
[11:58] <devster31> do a pull request, add it in
[11:58] <ahop> ok
[11:58] <diederik> "The minimal Raspbian unattended netinstaller for Raspberry Pi Model 1B, 1B+ and 2B (with pre-release installer). "
[11:58] <ahop> diederik: I know understand this sentence a posteriori
[11:58] <diederik> ^^ that's the first line of the README, with a link to the pre-release installer
[11:58] <ahop> a posteriori, it is clear, yes.
[11:59] <ahop> but a priori, we don't know what pre-release installer stands for
[11:59] <ahop> I have done the mistake, surely some other do it
[12:00] <ahop> (Ok I've read too fast, but some people do it as well and/or don't know exactly what to do, and scroll directly to the download page)
[12:00] <diederik> maybe I shouldn't have merged into master then, but 1.0.7 should be released shortly
[12:01] <ahop> but thanks a lot for the work by the way!
[12:01] <diederik> yw
[12:01] <ahop> it's great to have a netinst
[12:01] <ahop> diederik: systemd by default?
[12:01] <diederik> if you're installing jessie, then yes
[12:02] <ahop> diederik: how to install jessie with this netinst? (is it the shortest path to have jessie btw?)
[12:02] <diederik> specify 'release=jessie' in 'installer-config.txt'
[12:02] <ahop> that's all? :)
[12:02] <diederik> and yes, it's the shortest way to install jessie
[12:02] <diederik> yes
[12:02] <ahop> wawww
[12:02] <ahop> :
[12:02] <ahop> )
[12:03] <ahop> I don't have installer-config.txt in 1.0.7RC
[12:03] <diederik> you have to create that yourself, otherwise it uses default values
[12:04] <diederik> (and that is 'release=wheezy')
[12:04] <ahop> diederik: so I just create a blank installer-config.txt with release=jessie ?
[12:04] <diederik> yes
[12:04] <ahop> cool
[12:05] <ahop> I have a 4GB µSD card, I did a 4GB FAT32 partition, and just extracted the zip in this blank partition
[12:05] <ahop> is it ok?
[12:05] <diederik> should be
[12:06] <ahop> is it going to auto-erase the FAT32 partition and automatically replace it by a ext fs ?
[12:07] <diederik> the partition will be deleted, yes
[12:07] <diederik> and then it creates a FAT partition for /boot/ and an ext4 partition for /
[12:09] <ahop> cool
[12:09] <ahop> how to know when it's finished (i have no monitor, no kbd)
[12:09] <ahop> should I ssh every 5 minutes
[12:09] <ahop> when complete, ssh will work?
[12:10] <diederik> yes
[12:10] <diederik> so keep trying ssh is probably the way to figure it out
[12:10] <ahop> default is username:pi pwd:raspberry ?
[12:11] <diederik> no, only root is created as user and it's password is 'raspbian' (without quotes)
[12:11] <Getty> i love this classical problem of "no monitor"
[12:12] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst#installer-customization
[12:12] <diederik> there you can find all the defaults
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[12:19] <ahop> diederik: how can I modify the text .md here : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.6
[12:19] <ahop> in order to propose a PR?
[12:20] <diederik> ahop: you're not josephernest ?
[12:20] <ahop> I am
[12:20] <ahop> I managed to do a PR for the main README.md
[12:20] <diederik> then you've already done it
[12:20] <ahop> but I don't know how to propose a modification of this specific page : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.6
[12:20] <ahop> You could add a sentence on top of : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.6
[12:21] <ahop> "This version does not support Raspberry Pi 2. For this version, please use [1.0.7RC](link)"
[12:21] <ahop> It would save hours of struggling to bad people like me ;)
[12:21] <Getty> now thtas a good one: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=73 vs like https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=72
[12:21] <Getty> ;)
[12:22] <diederik> ahop: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/v1.0.6/README.md doesn't list the Pi 2 as supported
[12:23] <ahop> diederik: I agree but when you first visit https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[12:24] <diederik> specifically for that reason, each release has the following line: "See the README for features/installation instruction/etc for this release."
[12:24] <ahop> and then click to "Latest version download"
[12:24] <ahop> you don't see this file
[12:24] <ahop> Of course everyone should read README
[12:24] <ahop> I agree
[12:24] <ahop> but it's more user-friendly to show it explicitely
[12:25] <ahop> When you're trying a new tool
[12:25] <ahop> you don't read all the 10 pages of readme first
[12:26] <ahop> you want to try first, and if it seems to be more or less what you're looking for, then you'll read deeply
[12:26] <diederik> I do get your point (a bit), but I can't help ppl if they're unwilling to read the documentation
[12:26] <ahop> diederik: I agree with you
[12:26] <ahop> but when you start with any tool
[12:26] <ahop> like yours
[12:27] <ahop> at first you don't see the bigpicture
[12:27] <ahop> you have lots of informations that come
[12:27] <ahop> pages and pages of informations
[12:27] <ahop> and it's sometimes difficult to "parse" the whole thing
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[12:27] <diederik> I agree that the README should be simplified and shortened
[12:27] <ahop> that's why being explicit is probably helpful for all people
[12:28] <ahop> btw I'm teacher, and I know that repeating, repeating, repeating is the only way of having students learn ;)
[12:28] <ahop> even if in a dream world, it should be enough to tell them an information just once ;)
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[12:29] <diederik> and that we probably shouldn't merge things into master until the current 'final' release supports it
[12:29] <ahop> the README is really big enough and long, so if it can simple (just add one sentence at the end of : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.6 : "Note: this release doesn't support RPi2)
[12:29] <ahop> it would be really great
[12:29] <ahop> and helpful for anyone
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[12:30] <ahop> who doesn't have the full picture of your tool in mind yet
[12:30] <diederik> it is (very) likely 1.0.7 will be released this week and then the problem goes away ;)
[12:30] <ahop> :)
[12:30] <ahop> btw what booting time do you get with Jessie?
[12:31] <ahop> I want to approach booting times I had with ArchLinux
[12:31] <ahop> ~7seconds
[12:31] <ahop> but stay in Raspbian because it's simpler ;)
[12:31] <diederik> I haven't timed it, but it's probably similar
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[12:32] <ahop> 20 minutes seems normal for netinst ?
[12:32] <ahop> (ssh still fails, but eth LED is running ! :) )
[12:33] <diederik> 20 mins for a Pi 2 is LONG, I usually do it in 10 mins
[12:33] <diederik> is your power led on?
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[12:35] <diederik> ahop: from what type of system do you ssh _FROM_? (linux, windows, ...)
[12:36] <ahop> win with putty, and it usually works
[12:36] <ahop> green power led on, still blinking a bit (like when data is written/read)
[12:36] <ahop> same for eth
[12:37] <diederik> the power led is red, but when the green led (for reading/writing activity) is blinking then it's probably still installing
[12:37] <diederik> the speed of the sd card is also important for the installation duration
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[12:38] <diederik> (I have pretty fast sd cards)
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[12:39] <ShorTie> it take me alot longer then 20 minutes to go from github to boot raspberry-netinstall
[12:40] <ahop> ShorTie did you use the same version ?
[12:40] <ShorTie> that is why i like my_pi_os, 1 step install, hehe
[12:41] <diederik> ShorTie: what a surprise :-P
[12:41] <ShorTie> i just played with it over the weekend, to see about that inferram (or whatever) borking
[12:41] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=104981&p=745746#p745746
[12:42] <ShorTie> ? diederik, i know it's not you doing, but why do you define the /boot partition as fat32 and then format it it vfat ??
[12:43] <ShorTie> vfat != fat32
[12:43] <ShorTie> i was wondering if that may be the problemo
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[12:45] <diederik> mkfs.vfat will automatically select between 12, 16 and 32 bit, whatever fits better for the filesystem size.
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[12:47] <ShorTie> if that is the case, it surely wouldn't pick fat32 for a ~100mb partition i would guess
[12:47] <diederik> correct
[12:47] <ShorTie> most likly pick fat12
[12:48] <diederik> which problem btw?
[12:49] <ShorTie> the 1 you got a bug report going on over at raspbian/linux
[12:49] <ahop> diederik the Pi answer to ping
[12:50] <ahop> but still no ssh
[12:50] <ahop> is it possible?
[12:50] <ShorTie> notice how the stuff disappeared on raspberry-netinstall, lol.
[12:50] <diederik> ahop: sounds rather strange to me
[12:50] <ShorTie> what version Debian ahop ??
[12:51] <ahop> ShorTie i'm trying raspbian ua-netinst
[12:52] <ShorTie> i meant wheezy or jessie or .... ??
[12:52] <ahop> jessie
[12:52] <ahop> rebooting PC now
[12:52] <ahop> brb
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[12:53] <ShorTie> try this and see if it helps "sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[12:53] <ShorTie> oops, to slow
[12:53] <diederik> there's no need for that since it's done during the installation (when using jessie)
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[12:57] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/scripts/etc/init.d/rcS#L531
[12:57] <ShorTie> da, like i don't know
[12:57] <ShorTie> it's needed for anything > wheezy actually
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[13:01] <ahop> now sshd :)
[13:02] <ahop> Is there a way to see if jessie was successfully installed (and not wheezy) ?
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[13:02] <ShorTie> try this and see if it helps "sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
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[13:02] <diederik> ahop: don't do that^^
[13:02] <diederik> ahop: 'cat /etc/debian_version'
[13:03] <ShorTie> or you could be missing a depenacy, that is why no_pi_os uses apt-get to get everything
[13:03] <ahop> :)
[13:03] <ahop> 8.0, so it seems Jessie is installed
[13:03] <ShorTie> like it's gonna hurt, lol.
[13:03] <diederik> indeed.
[13:04] <diederik> ahop: you do want to install 'libpam-systemd' though
[13:04] <ahop> dmesg shows something like 14seconds of boot, whereas it was ~7sec with arch
[13:05] <ahop> what could I do to speed it up? (embedded device, the user needs to have machine running asap)
[13:05] <devster31> any idea why crosstool-ng trows me a tls_support error?
[13:05] <ahop> dmesg shows this:
[13:05] <ahop> [< 0.527814>] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup
[13:05] <diederik> ahop: don't know, haven't investigated that or used arch
[13:05] <ahop> why does this use a half second ?
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[13:12] <ahop> ShorTie, what's my pi os? another distro?
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[13:15] <ahop> ShorTie: what booting time do you have with a tiny my_pi_os + jessie?
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[13:17] <ahop> ShorTie: what's the difference between:
[13:17] <ahop> sdcard=/dev/sda # Leave blank or remark out to make image
[13:17] <ahop> dcard_device=/dev/sda # Device to write image to at end if making an image
[13:18] <ahop> sorry
[13:18] <ahop> diff between:
[13:18] <ahop> sdcard=/dev/sda # Leave blank or remark out to make image
[13:18] <ahop> sdcard_device=/dev/sda # Device to write image to at end if making an image
[13:18] <ahop> if my sd card is mmcblk0, should I put /dev/mmcblk0 to both ?
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[15:35] <ahop> diederik: do you know how to have / read-only?
[15:35] <ahop> I always did it successfully with "ro" in cmdline.txt
[15:35] <ahop> But now with this (with jessie) : dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 elevator=deadline root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 ro rootwait
[15:35] <ahop> it doesn't mount as ro...
[15:36] <diederik> I don't know really
[15:36] <diederik> you could try changing it in /etc/fstab
[15:36] <diederik> but I wouldn't be surprised if it would give you errors
[15:37] <diederik> (since /var/ is often written to)
[15:37] <ahop> no, no, it perfectly worked
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[16:15] <mildouze> Hello, I don't see the Rapbian based on jessie on the downloads page. It is'nt realesed yet ?
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[16:17] <devster31> it is, I don't know where though, but the jessie repos are there
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[16:23] <ShorTie> there is no release image of jessie
[16:24] <ShorTie> can only start from scratch or upgrade wheezy
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[16:28] <mildouze> Thank you I will install wheezy and upgrade
[16:30] <ppq> ShorTie, "from scratch" = debootstrap? dont i need a live system for that?
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[16:31] <ShorTie> i' use
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[16:31] <devster31> there's also ua-netinstall, and I believe some other options I don't know
[16:31] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=104981&p=745746#p745746
[16:32] <ShorTie> mainly because it's a 1 step operation and uses the foundation's bootloader/kernels from the get go
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[16:37] <ShorTie> yes it uses cdebootstrap, you just run it on your pi
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[16:43] <bltzfsck> in the raspbiconfig tool one of the choices for overclocking is pi2. is this what a pi2 should be running at?
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[19:19] <oy1r\mm> good evening.
[19:19] <oy1r\mm> q: why is apt-get ultra slow on my raspberry pi (~400bps)
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[19:20] <shiftplusone> try a different mirror?
[19:21] <oy1r\mm> can you recomended any ?
[19:23] <shiftplusone> the default mirrordirector service works fine for me, so no.
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[20:11] <Phrohdoh> Hey guys, what would you suggest I use to host my irc logs on my pi? The structure is logs/year/month/day (day being a plaintext file), so others can easily browse them?
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[20:13] <vostorga> Phrohdoh: that's up to you, for example you may use http list if you expect them to be public, or ftp/sftp if you expect for an user/pass
[20:13] <Phrohdoh> Public is the best way for me to go atm, will checkout http list, thanks. Never done this before.
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[20:33] <morlenxus> Hey guys, just installed raspbian and upgraded to jessie. Now i have the question if i should use the preinstalled linux-image-rpi2-rpfv (linux-image-3.18.0-trunk-rpi2) or the official raspberrypi-bootloader?
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[21:25] <oy1r\mm> does anyone know why apt-get is downloading ultra slow for me ?
[21:25] <oy1r\mm> around 200-400 bps
[21:26] <oy1r\mm> installing anything takes hours
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[21:32] <Getty> i had this problem once too..... but ages ago, i found out in the end that my SD card was totally not wanting to deliver full power so often which of course made anything lag
[21:38] <oy1r\mm> it´s apt-get that´s slow
[21:38] <oy1r\mm> midori is OK´ish
[21:38] <Getty> apt-get is very very I/O intense and gets overly slow on just little performance lag on the hardware
[21:38] <Getty> just saying
[21:38] <Getty> apt-get is like cookie monster, just with ram and I/O
[21:39] <oy1r\mm> hehe
[21:39] <oy1r\mm> so what´s the fix ?
[21:40] <Getty> yeah well, try another SD, i mean that makes it sure, beside that you check if someone else is overusing your I/O
[21:40] <Getty> ;)
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[21:53] <morlenxus> Hey guys, just installed raspbian and upgraded to jessie. Now i have the question if i should use the preinstalled linux-image-rpi2-rpfv (linux-image-3.18.0-trunk-rpi2) or the official raspberrypi-bootloader?
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[21:58] <vagrantc> morlenxus: try both and compare? :)
[21:59] <morlenxus> Well i was hoping someone here already does and want to share his results.
[22:00] <diederik> morlenxus: there shouldn't be much difference
[22:01] <morlenxus> "much" :)
[22:01] <morlenxus> Would be good to know what exactly is the difference. :)
[22:01] <diederik> I don't know
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[22:03] <morlenxus> Ok, thanks anyway
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