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[6:46] <ahop> Hi! Something I don't understand on https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianImages
[6:46] <ahop> 1) Raspberry Pi foundation Raspbian Images => they say it's not done by Raspbian team but rather by R Pi foundation
[6:47] <ahop> 2) Unofficial Raspbian Images => not done by Raspbian team but by some people => thus, unofficial
[6:47] <ahop> Where is the official image, done by Raspbian team ?
[6:52] <ShorTie> what cha lookin for ??
[6:53] <ShorTie> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[6:53] <ShorTie> thats the official image
[6:56] <ahop> Isn't this one the one produced by R Pi foundation?
[6:56] <ahop> Oh yes, it is
[6:56] <ahop> About this one, the raspbian.org site mentions:
[6:56] <ahop> """However it should be remembered that this image is created by the raspberry Pi foundation not the Raspbian project and as such we don't control what is in it."""
[6:56] <ahop> (https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianImages)
[6:57] <ahop> Then, WHERE is the image done by Raspbian project itself?
[7:05] <ShorTie> i just listed the official image done by the foundation, it's the only official image there is
[7:09] <ShorTie> as far is i know, the 'Raspbian project' is plugwash who recompiles Debian for armv6 so it will work on the pi
[7:09] <ahop> oh ok
[7:09] <ahop> so maybe the page https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianImages could be made clearer
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[7:18] <ShorTie> there is now, funally, like a official none X version too..
[7:19] <ShorTie> it is made nightly and stops at step 3 of 5
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[7:24] <ahop> ShorTie have you ever made packages?
[7:24] <ahop> submitted to the official package repo for Raspbian?
[7:24] <ahop> (I mean packages available from apt-get)
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[7:28] <ShorTie> nop
[7:29] <ShorTie> i'm just a <idiot@dot.com>, so my stuff don't go very far, lol.
[7:29] <ahop> lol
[7:29] <ahop> me too
[7:30] <ahop> I'm using python-pyaudio, but the apt-get package available on official repo is outdated
[7:31] <ShorTie> whelp, i know like nothing about the snake
[7:32] <ahop> arggghhhh
[7:32] <ahop> apt-get install python-pip
[7:32] <ahop> ... installs python2.6 on top of python2.7 :/
[7:32] <ShorTie> what is out dated about it ??
[7:32] <ahop> ShorTie: it's an old version, which some useful functions not there (audio callback, really needed)
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[7:33] <ShorTie> well, update the package build and make your own deb .. :/~
[7:33] <ahop> I don't know how to do that!
[7:33] <ShorTie> it's not hard
[7:34] <ahop> Never did a deb myself
[7:34] <ahop> Don't you want to do it?
[7:34] <ahop> :)
[7:34] <ahop> Here is how to do the new pyaudio, that's simple:
[7:34] <ShorTie> not really
[7:34] <ahop> git clone http://people.csail.mit.edu/hubert/git/pyaudio.git
[7:34] <ahop> cd pyaudio
[7:34] <ahop> python setup.py install
[7:34] <ahop> but then making a package... is something else...
[7:35] <ShorTie> there is nothing wrong with github's
[7:37] <ShorTie> What's new, April 12, 2014, doesn't seem to new to me
[7:38] <ahop> what I mean is:
[7:38] <ahop> apt-get install python-pyaudio is an old version, with some important missing functions
[7:38] <ahop> (I use it a lot)
[7:38] <ahop> this git version is the good one
[7:38] <ahop> Would you know how to use git: clone http://people.csail.mit.edu/hubert/git/pyaudio.git
[7:39] <ahop> and make a .deb with it?
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[7:42] <ShorTie> looks like there is a newer version in jessie
[7:42] <ahop> yes but how to use it in wheezy?
[7:43] <ahop> Is there a one-liner solution?
[7:43] <ahop> In fact I'm currently writing a doc about how to install a soft of mine
[7:43] <ahop> Target users: non power users
[7:43] <ShorTie> goto https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python-pyaudio
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[7:44] <ahop> So most people in my target users don't care about jessie / wheezy and just want to install the soft
[7:44] <ShorTie> get the 'Download Source Package python-pyaudio' stuff and try making your own deb's
[7:44] <ahop> is there a simple way to install https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python-pyaudio in one line?
[7:45] <ahop> like apt-get install --url https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python-pyaudio
[7:45] <ahop> lol
[7:46] <ShorTie> not really
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[7:51] <ShorTie> ls
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[7:54] <ShorTie> ok, try this
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[7:55] <ahop> this works: wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-pyaudio/python-pyaudio_0.2.8-1+b1_armhf.deb ; dpkg -i python-pyaudio_0.2.8-1+b1_armhf.deb
[7:55] <ShorTie> git the git, cd pyaudio, get the deb
[7:55] <ShorTie> if you got a rpi2
[7:55] <ahop> git the git? what?
[7:56] <ahop> oh right sorry yes, I did git the git :)
[7:56] <ShorTie> then 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b'
[7:56] <ahop> cd pyaudio
[7:57] <ahop> tail: cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory
[7:57] <ahop> dpkg-buildpackage: error: tail of debian/changelog gave error exit status 1
[7:58] <ShorTie> did you get the debian stuff ??
[7:58] <ahop> what stuff?
[7:59] <ShorTie> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/python-pyaudio/python-pyaudio_0.2.8-1.debian.tar.xz
[8:01] <ahop> oh anyway it works with
[8:01] <ahop> wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-pyaudio/python-pyaudio_0.2.8-1+b1_armhf.deb ; dpkg -i python-pyaudio_0.2.8-1+b1_armhf.deb
[8:01] <ahop> so I think problem solved!
[8:02] <ahop> Is +b1_armhf the right thing?
[8:02] <ahop> armhf = correct?
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[8:05] <ShorTie> but there is normally a reason why packages are not in wheezy, but got me
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[8:06] <ShorTie> and your using a mix match of stuff, if it matters
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[8:11] <ahop> yeah
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[8:17] <ShorTie> interesting, you get 2 deb's
[8:18] <ShorTie> 1 for python and 1 for python3
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[8:29] <ShorTie> and don't get that '+b1' thing, so who knows what that means
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[8:39] <tuinah> Hi guys, I just added - rpi- to my jessie sources.list, but I get this error message: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/jessie/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'rpi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[8:40] <tuinah> I get that error when I try to apt-get update of course
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[8:46] <ShorTie> probily because there is no rpi branch in jessie
[8:48] <tuinah> ShorTie: are you sure about that? Because I can see it in the archive ( http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/jessie/ )
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[8:50] <ShorTie> ya, and there is only 3 packages in there gstreamerx2 and some ssh-regen-startup thing
[8:51] <ShorTie> what are you looking for ??
[8:52] <tuinah> I was looking for the next kernel branch to activate the CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD
[8:52] <tuinah> Would need to use initramfs and that seemed like the easiest way
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[8:52] <ShorTie> that wouldn't be there anyways i don't think
[8:53] <ShorTie> that be more of a rpi-update thing
[8:53] <tuinah> Yes it is, but seems like I do not have the rpi-update package, was hoping to find it in the repos
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[9:00] <ShorTie> the github tells how to get it https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[9:02] <tuinah> ShorTie: sorry, I may be slow, but it says to run a " sudo apt-get install rpi-update". Which gives me no package found because seems like Jessie does not have it
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[9:02] <tuinah> Well, I may use curl
[9:03] <tuinah> let's see, I'll report back
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[9:05] <tuinah> ShorTie: thanks, seems like working!
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[9:11] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi all
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[9:13] <TG|OC|Kiwi> i have following problem: libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.18.7-v7+/modules.dep.bin'
[9:13] <TG|OC|Kiwi> is here anyone who could help me with this issue?
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[9:14] <TG|OC|Kiwi> didn't find anything accurate
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[9:28] <ShorTie> about the only thing i find is todo a rpi-update
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[9:36] <TG|OC|Kiwi> after rpi-update. pi doesn't boot anymore
[9:38] <shiftplusone> lesson learned... don't rpi-update.
[9:38] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi shiftplusone
[9:38] <TG|OC|Kiwi> :)
[9:38] <shiftplusone> ahoy
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[9:38] <TG|OC|Kiwi> ahoy!
[9:38] <TG|OC|Kiwi> still same prob
[9:38] <TG|OC|Kiwi> like the last time.. u found out what it was... do u remember?
[9:39] <TG|OC|Kiwi> at the end u told me that there was something missing in my cfg or somwhere else...
[9:39] <TG|OC|Kiwi> bloody busy?
[9:39] <TG|OC|Kiwi> as everything is runing perfectly right now.... i would just love to fix this issue.. and yes.. i learnt my lesson :)
[9:41] <TG|OC|Kiwi> u know what'S stran shiftplusone .... i cann see boot an mounted device in remote desktop when is make remote desktop...
[9:43] <shiftplusone> eh? I don't quite follow
[9:44] <TG|OC|Kiwi> well.... i guess there was something missing the last time.. do u remember?
[9:44] <TG|OC|Kiwi> the last time the kernel didn't want to be loaded at boot
[9:45] <TG|OC|Kiwi> then u figured out that there was something wrong with a path or something
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[9:55] <shiftplusone> nope, don't quite remember.
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[10:27] <deathleff> hello, updated rpi b+ to raspian jessie. worked flawless. BUT ;) booted jessie now has systemd process eating 70-80% cpu 0.0
[10:28] <deathleff> is this some initial one time thingy or just the grace of lennard p and systemd? :)
[10:29] <scoofy> i guess the latter :P
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[10:32] <deathleff> did the same jessie dist-upgrade with raspbian on a pi2 without this systemd issue. both from fresh noobs netinst setups.
[10:33] <scoofy> maybe it's some systemd bug.
[10:33] <scoofy> it either works, or it doesn't :)
[10:33] <deathleff> yea guess so
[10:35] <shiftplusone> no, not a systemd bug. If you want to use jessie, don't use the foundation's raspbian image.
[10:36] <deathleff> oh. im hooked. tell us more shiftplusone
[10:36] <shiftplusone> use raspbian-ua-netinst
[10:37] * ShorTie thinkz, or my_pi_os.sh
[10:37] <deathleff> shiftplusone, this is for all models?
[10:38] * shiftplusone shrugs
[10:38] <shiftplusone> haven't used it in a while
[10:38] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: you should throw your thing on github. It's not very google-able right now. I just find a dropbox link, which isn't the best.
[10:39] <deathleff> ok thx shiftplusone will give it a try
[10:39] <ShorTie> my_pi_os.sh is easier to use and alot more options, imho
[10:40] <ShorTie> ya shiftplusone, maybe i should, but google does point to the forums
[10:40] <shiftplusone> github looks better than random forum thread somewhere
[10:41] <deathleff> ShorTie, quick search lead to nothing, where to find this project? also git like this netinst thingy?
[10:42] <deathleff> but i for one only need debian, so netinst seems most natural.
[10:43] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=104981&p=755671
[10:43] <ShorTie> it does a netinstall all the way up to stretch
[10:45] <deathleff> ok. will look into that too. thanks ShorTie.
[10:47] <ShorTie> couple of the biggest differences is that it can use the foundations bootloader/kernel from the get go, which i recommend
[10:47] <ShorTie> does a full basic Debian install
[10:48] <ShorTie> and uses apt-get for everything else so you get all the dependacies you need
[10:48] <deathleff> and netinst-ua doesn't?
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[10:57] <deathleff> netinst-ua cant mount sdcard to /boot for setup and now stucks in a reboot loop :)
[10:57] <shiftplusone> sounds like you didn't read the manual
[10:57] <deathleff> now generating an new skynet node for ShorTie by using his script :)
[10:58] <deathleff> shiftplusone, its mkfs.vfst. that creates plain fat32 iirc and not exfat.
[10:59] <deathleff> mkfs.vfat
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[11:13] <ahop> diederik are you here?
[11:13] <ahop> I have a small question about https://github.com/diederikdehaas/raspbian-ua-netinst ;)
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[11:14] <shiftplusone> sure, he lives here.
[11:15] <ahop> :)
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[11:15] <ahop> shiftplusone do you run Raspbian Jessie?
[11:15] <shiftplusone> nope, not yet
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[11:19] <ahop> I would like to improve Raspbian Jessie boot time
[11:19] <scoofy> are you impatient?
[11:20] <ahop> it's for an embedded device :)
[11:20] <ahop> that needs to boot fast
[11:20] <shiftplusone> then use an embedded distro
[11:20] <ahop> like which one?
[11:20] <shiftplusone> buildroot is the goto for me, but there are alternatives like yocto
[11:23] <ahop> shiftplusone: this one https://github.com/gamaral/rpi-buildroot ?
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[11:23] <shiftplusone> this one http://buildroot.uclibc.org/
[11:24] <ahop> have you tried it on your Pi shiftplusone ?
[11:25] <shiftplusone> sure, it's how NOOBS works.
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[11:25] <ahop> oh really?
[11:25] <ahop> what does NOOBS do? (never tried)
[11:25] <deathleff> netinst-ua is now installing. prepared th sd via shell, that works.
[11:25] <shiftplusone> It's a multi-boot, recovery, installer thing
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[11:26] <ahop> shiftplusone but have you tried your own buildroot?
[11:26] <shiftplusone> yeah
[11:30] <ahop> can we use apt-get ... ?
[11:30] <ahop> with a buildroot or is it something else?
[11:30] <shiftplusone> No, no real package management.
[11:30] <ahop> arghh
[11:30] <shiftplusone> you build the stuff you want in there at build time.
[11:31] <ahop> imagine I need python + cython
[11:31] <ahop> how to do without apt-get?
[11:31] <shiftplusone> http://buildroot.uclibc.org/downloads/manual/manual.html ;)
[11:40] <ShorTie> <deathleff> and netinst-ua doesn't? nop
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[13:13] <theblackcrow2> hello, i want to connect a pi2 via HDMI to a TV. But no matter what i change in /boot/config.txt, the resolution always changes back to 640x480
[13:15] <Tachyon`> hmm
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[13:15] <Tachyon`> what are you changing exactly in config.txt
[13:15] <theblackcrow2> How can i change the resolution to sth higher, like minimum 576p/i ?
[13:15] <Tachyon`> and what resolution is your HDMI TV
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[13:16] <theblackcrow2> I think it has 1360x768
[13:16] <Tachyon`> hdmi_group=2
[13:16] <Tachyon`> hdmi_mode=86
[13:16] <Tachyon`> mine is 1366x768
[13:16] <Tachyon`> and those are what I need in config.txt for it to run in the native mode
[13:16] <Tachyon`> note that that will likely screw up hdmi audio
[13:16] <Tachyon`> as it's a DVI mode
[13:17] <Tachyon`> I put mine through my amp from te 3.5mm output so doesn't matter here
[13:17] <Tachyon`> but might for your purposes
[13:17] <theblackcrow2> thank you, i will try this out
[13:17] <theblackcrow2> audio doesn't matter atm
[13:18] <Tachyon`> well, I'm assuming 1:1 pixel mapping is what you're after
[13:18] <Tachyon`> try 39 if 86 doesn't work (39 is 1360x768, 86 is 1366x768)
[13:19] <theblackcrow2> could be, its been very blurred
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[13:19] <Tachyon`> yeah, that should sort it out then
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[13:19] <Tachyon`> are you using noobs?
[13:19] <theblackcrow2> can I reload this without rebooting?
[13:19] <Tachyon`> no
[13:19] <Tachyon`> you have to reboot
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[13:21] <theblackcrow2> theres a noob auto generated conf at the end of the config.txt
[13:21] <Tachyon`> how are you editing the config.txt
[13:22] <Tachyon`> from /boot?
[13:22] <Tachyon`> on the running system
[13:22] <Tachyon`> I ask as due to broken design of noobs, it has multiple config.txts and boot partitions so you have to get the right one, should be mounted in /boot I think though if the system is running
[13:25] <theblackcrow2> I edit it with nano .. the one in /boot
[13:26] <theblackcrow2> both 39 and 86 didn't work
[13:27] <Tachyon`> hrm
[13:27] <Tachyon`> you've definitely uncommented the lines
[13:27] <Tachyon`> for hdmi_group and hdmi_mode
[13:27] <theblackcrow2> yes!
[13:28] <Tachyon`> okay, do a mount and see which partition is mounted as /boot, then do a cat /proc/partitions and make sure it's not the first one on the disk (which would not be the one you want)
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[13:30] <theblackcrow2> it should be the one which I tried multiple times to edit... I've changed the framebuffer and this changed the desktop (black bars e.g.)
[13:31] <Tachyon`> oh right, if you've seen changes it should be correct then
[13:31] <Asharas> Hi everyone! I'm in trouble with a CIFS mount, syslog give me this error: "CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket.". It used to work fine yesterday. I updated and rebooted my NAS and it works with a windows client
[13:31] <Tachyon`> I don't have a noobs setup to hand to look at unfortunaetly, just got raspbian/retropie and kodi on the running pis here
[13:32] <Asharas> nay idea?
[13:32] <Tachyon`> add sec=ntlm to the mount options
[13:33] <Tachyon`> and check dmesg which might give more details as to the issue
[13:33] <Asharas> same message in dmesg
[13:34] <Tachyon`> I had this problem after an update, had to suddenly start explicitly adding sec=ntlm to the mount options as it's deprecated or w/e but what my NAS uses
[13:35] <Asharas> okay, trying this, brb
[13:36] <Asharas> not working with sec=ntlm
[13:36] <Tachyon`> hrm
[13:37] <Tachyon`> can you ping the nas from the pi?
[13:37] <Asharas> where can I find mount.cifs error codes list? is there any?
[13:37] <Asharas> ping is OK
[13:37] <Tachyon`> hrm, curious
[13:38] <Asharas> and working fine on Windows
[13:40] <Tachyon`> it stopped working when you updated the software on the nas and rebooted it?
[13:40] <Asharas> nope, before that, I updated and rebooted to troubleshoot
[13:42] <Asharas> seems to be a problem with the cifs socket
[13:42] <Asharas> but I don't have the skills to manipulate sockets
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[13:54] <diederik> TG|OC|Kiwi: iirc you updated the kernel (3.18.7 -> 3.18.11) but didn't reboot
[13:57] <Asharas> anyone else about my trouble with cifs?
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[14:11] <djallow> Hi guys. I'm doing my best to make a full disk encryption, but when I start the raspi and get into the initramfs shell I try to decrypt the root and I get a "cryptsetup command not known". I'm missing a way to set cryptsetup in initramfs?
[14:12] <djallow> I've been following this guide: http://paxswill.com/blog/2013/11/04/encrypted-raspberry-pi/ and another very similar one
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[14:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hi
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[15:22] <josh-d> Hi all
[15:23] <josh-d> I need guidance on wireless module for pi 2
[15:23] <josh-d> I found http://www.adafruit.com/product/1030 and http://www.adafruit.com/products/814
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[15:24] <josh-d> I want to understand the difference, I tried the Technical details
[15:24] <josh-d> but says the same thing.
[15:24] <josh-d> Has anyone use these two and have some idea on the difference.
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[15:28] <josh-d> *but technical page of both the adapter are same.
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[16:39] <iNeo> Hi, My raspberry PI does not show output from the kernel boot log on the serial console. I'm using a ttl to rs232 adapter. has anyone and idea?
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[16:40] <iNeo> my kernel command line has "console=ttyAMA0,115200n8"
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[17:04] <josh-d> Can anyone help me compare wifi modules http://www.adafruit.com/product/1030 and http://www.adafruit.com/products/814 for raspberry pi 2. adafruit has not given any technical difference between the two products.
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[18:40] <djallow> Hi guys, I am trying to log in into a dropbear istance, but seems like the ssh doesn't recognize the password. I tried setting it up again and update initramfs with a mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.gz, but no good.
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[20:25] <oupala> hello, is there any jessie version image of raspbian ?
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[20:34] <devster31> you can create your own or upgrade from wheezy
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[20:37] <oupala> devster31: I already updated from wheezy to jessie
[20:37] <oupala> but I prefer a fresh install
[20:37] <oupala> and I might not be smart enough to create my own jessie raspbian... :-(
[20:37] <devster31> then you should be able to deboostrap an image from the current install?
[20:38] <devster31> or use ShorTie script to do it, my_pi_os.sh I think it's called
[20:38] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
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[20:51] <oupala> my_pi_os.sh sound great, thanks
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[20:51] <oupala> but can you explain me a little bit how debootstrap could help me ? I don't know it very well and I don't undertand how it could be useful to me...
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[21:16] <devster31> it basically copies everything that makes debian debian into another directory
[21:16] <devster31> and you can create an sd off of that
[21:16] <devster31> it's a bit muddy for me too
[21:21] <oupala> so it make an image from an install which is not a fresh install (in my case)
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[21:25] <devster31> yes, but it takes only the core elements of the os, nothing you installed is transferred
[21:26] <devster31> it installs the base system from the debian repos, it doesn't actually copy from your local directories
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[21:47] <oupala> devster31: thank you, I think I will use raspbian-ua-netinst which seems to be perfect for me...
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[22:55] <DANtheBEASTman> am I missing something are there no raspbian builds for jessie?
[22:59] <vagrantc> i don't think there are prebuilt images, no.
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[23:06] <DANtheBEASTman> that makes me sad. having difficulty dist-upgrading, keeps getting stuck
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[23:45] <stew-a> ok so this has been driving me batty for the last couple of hours, I pulled down a fresh image earlier and started setting up a fresh pi, get to configuring a static ip and instead of 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' it's set to manual, huh weird, but i reconfigure it as static and move on, except now the thing has two IP addresses on eth0, one static and one DHCP and I can't for the life of me figure out how to kill the dhcp one, relevant
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[23:57] <vagrantc> stew-a: bring the interface down before defining the static interface, or kill the dhclient instance manually
[23:58] <vagrantc> stew-a: or reboot
[23:58] <stew-a> vagrantc: ip keeps coming back after reboot
[23:58] <vagrantc> pstree -a
[23:58] <vagrantc> see what process is starting dhclient?
[23:59] <vagrantc> multiple definitions in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/* ?
[23:59] <vagrantc> some udev hooks?
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