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IRC Log for 2015-05-22

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[0:01] <vagrantc> good luck
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[0:01] <stew-a> vagrantc: this is a relatively out-of-the box raspbian, all I did to it was tweak some user accounts, install mysqld and mount some network drives so far. No /etc/network/interfaces.d present, and only one entry (excl lo interface) in /etc/network/interfaces (see here: http://pastebin.com/zD5HF18E )
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[0:03] <EyePulp> howdy; if I'm trying to build some scripts to run on a Pi (2), is there a vagrant box/VM that can generally mirror/behave like raspbian?
[0:03] <EyePulp> (maybe that's a dumb question)
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[3:08] <stenwt> hi, room. I'm able to use my rtl8188-based USB wifi nic if I install rasbian from the full image, but if I use the raspbian-ua-netinst process, "ifup wlan0" gives me "link not ready". I did some googling around and it sounded like I needed a firmware package, but the only ones I see are linux-firmware-free and firmware-brcm80211. is there something else I'm missing?
[3:10] <stenwt> alternately, what I really want is Jessie on my rpi. Is there an image somwhere I can use? doing an aptitude upgrade on the full image takes ages.
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[3:17] <ShorTie> nop, there is no jessie image, and i like my_pi_os.sh for minimal installs
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[6:40] <zGrr> moin :)
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[7:08] <TG|OC|Kiwi> good morning guys
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[8:15] <john-d> Has anyone used Edimax EW-7811Un 150 Mbps Wireless 11n Nano Size USB Adapter with raspberry pi 2 board?
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[9:05] <dexta> morning
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[9:38] <Guest91570> could someone please help me write a python script. I'm using a momentary button switch as an input and I'm really struggling with the code. I understand there are a lot of tutorials on this but I can't seem to get it right!
[9:38] <Guest91570> here's a picture of how I have my 3 buttons wired up - https://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/024/487/large1024/raspberry_pi_pi_jukebox_buttons_bb.png?1429117506
[9:39] <Guest91570> I've been through two python scripts that looked promising but kept floating/bouncing
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[10:02] <Guest91570> Anyone around?
[10:06] <ShorTie> my belly is round, but it knows nothing about the snake
[10:07] <ShorTie> but you normally fight debouce by reading the falling of the input of the button
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[10:09] <Guest91570> thanks ShorTie but I'm terrible at writing code, I've read a few tutorials and tried a lot of different code but just can't get it to work properly
[10:10] <Guest91570> I think I understand about TLL and the concept of bouncing, but like I said I just really suck at writing
[10:11] <Guest91570> and that belly snake thing confused me also
[10:11] <Guest91570> but thank you kind sir for your help
[10:12] <ShorTie> snake=python
[10:12] <ShorTie> and you asked if anyone was around
[10:12] <Guest91570> oooh
[10:12] <Guest91570> that was a terrible joke
[10:13] <Guest91570> that was a dad joke!
[10:16] <paul_> yeah
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[10:16] <ShorTie> i'm a dad, so....
[10:18] <Guest91570> makes sense
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[10:23] <yesi> hi
[10:26] <yesi> No opensmtpd package...? Any advice, please ?
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[10:31] <ShorTie> ya, upgrade to sid or stretch
[10:32] <ShorTie> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=opensmtpd
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[10:58] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi
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[11:02] <Guest91570> could someone please help me write a python script. I'm using a momentary button switch as an input and I'm really struggling with the code. I understand there are a lot of tutorials on this but I can't seem to get it right!
[11:02] <Guest91570> here's a picture of how I have my 3 buttons wired up - https://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/024/487/large1024/raspberry_pi_pi_jukebox_buttons_bb.png?1429117506
[11:02] <Guest91570> I've been through two python scripts that looked promising but kept floating/bouncing
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[12:41] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi shiftplusone
[12:41] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi ShorTie
[12:42] <TG|OC|Kiwi> all right guys?
[12:42] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi scoofy
[12:42] <shiftplusone> Hey
[12:43] <TG|OC|Kiwi> hi.. good advise not to upgrade the kernel.. everything works super well here now without it :)
[12:44] <TG|OC|Kiwi> i added a gps tracker.. we will leave to corsica in summer on a mountain.. hiking you know.. and i wanna see the way we walked... that'S a great thing .. traccar server
[12:45] <shiftplusone> sounds awesome
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[13:10] <jaoja> is there any way to determine if the ntp service working correctly?
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[13:19] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: using my_pi_os.sh for the first time... pretty easy to configure for my needs so far.
[13:19] <ShorTie> Cool
[13:20] <ShorTie> ya, just a bunch of #'s
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[13:21] <shiftplusone> only downside that it needs to run on a pi, which is a little inconvenient right now.
[13:21] <ShorTie> workin on adding desktops now
[13:21] <ShorTie> well, it's because the pi is arm
[13:22] <ShorTie> so debootstrap/chroot needs a arm
[13:22] <shiftplusone> there's qemu-debootstrap
[13:22] <shiftplusone> part of qemu-user-static
[13:22] <shiftplusone> but it would need some cleanup after installing
[13:24] <ShorTie> never messed with qemu
[13:25] <shiftplusone> In my_pi_os.sh, you don't seem to prevent service auto-starting
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[13:26] <ShorTie> nop, to tell you the truth didn't know of it
[13:26] <ShorTie> but it like kills it all at the end
[13:27] <shiftplusone> If you'd like to do something about that, https://major.io/2014/06/26/install-debian-packages-without-starting-daemons/
[13:27] <shiftplusone> just need to remember to remove the file
[13:27] <ShorTie> fuser -av sdcard
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[13:32] <ShorTie> you know, it does seem like that guy the other day was right, gpio pin 1 isn't maked at all
[13:34] <shiftplusone> on my pi, the pin pad is square and the whitemask has a notch in that corner
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[13:38] <slavking> who uses Arch on their pi?
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[13:39] <ShorTie> is it a B ??
[13:41] <shiftplusone> slavking: I've heard some humans do.
[13:41] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: pi 2
[13:41] <shiftplusone> let me check the various other pis I have on the desk
[13:42] <shiftplusone> Yeah, everything I have is marked the same way. B+, pi2, rev 1 B
[13:43] <shiftplusone> don't have a newer pi 1 B
[13:47] <slavking> I'd like to use some graphics but only have a 2gb card
[13:47] <slavking> I was thinking of using a very no-frills arch then trying to install graphics packages
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[13:51] <shiftplusone> You can have a no-frills raspbian install too.
[13:52] <shiftplusone> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=104981 vs https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[13:52] <shiftplusone> Round 1, fight
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[13:54] <slavking> hmmm
[13:54] <slavking> hold on
[13:56] <slavking> yes! This is what I've been looking for
[13:56] <slavking> thanks shiftplusone I'll try to install this one first
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[13:57] <slavking> I am used to slackwares ncurses package manager
[13:57] <slavking> you can delete packages quickly and such, not sure if minibian has something like that. Also minibian doesn't have X
[13:59] <shiftplusone> be careful, you need to modify that script to point to the right device
[13:59] <shiftplusone> and must run from a pi
[13:59] <shiftplusone> if you just run it blindly on your PC, say goodbye to your data
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[14:03] <slavking> oh
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[14:13] <logan0405> hey does anyone know how to execute a script once a user has logged into tty?
[14:13] <logan0405> I'm trying to startx after the user has logged into the text based console
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[14:16] <shiftplusone> logan0405: bashrc
[14:17] <shiftplusone> or profile
[14:17] <logan0405> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[14:17] <shiftplusone> look at step 2 http://www.shellperson.net/autostart-x-without-gdm/
[14:17] <logan0405> wouldn't that execute it multiple times?
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[14:17] <shiftplusone> Yeah, you need to make sure it only runs startx under the conditions you want
[14:17] <logan0405> ok
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[14:18] <shiftplusone> in that example, they do if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ $(tty) = /dev/tty6 ]
[14:18] <shiftplusone> you'll need to adjust it to the relevant tty you intend to login from
[14:18] <logan0405> what's the -z "$DISPLAY" mean
[14:18] <logan0405> ok
[14:19] <shiftplusone> means no display variable is set
[14:19] <logan0405> alright so basically if startx hasn't been started yet?
[14:19] <shiftplusone> so you're not running it within X, for example.
[14:19] <shiftplusone> X may have already been started, but not from the shell the script runs from
[14:20] <shiftplusone> so if you have lightdm or something starting x already, it will run twice.
[14:20] <logan0405> should I put that at the beginning of the file?
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[14:21] <shiftplusone> what makes more sense to you?
[14:21] <shiftplusone> startx will block execution of further commands in the script
[14:22] <logan0405> ok
[14:23] <shiftplusone> (so no, you don't want it at the beginning)
[14:24] <logan0405> i put it in .bash_profile there was nothing in there to begin with neither .profile
[14:24] <logan0405> hehe
[14:25] <logan0405> thank you for your help shiftplusone, lets see if this works though, my problem before was that it would start, but take ~2 minutes whereas if i just typed startx it would start instantaneously
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[14:26] <shiftplusone> if it doesn't work, check the bash man page. It describes which files it uses and under which conditions
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[14:47] <logan0405> much obliged shiftplusone, it worked great. what do you think could have caused the very slow startup time before?
[14:48] <shiftplusone> nope, but if you could find out, that would be very helpful
[14:48] <logan0405> ok
[14:48] <shiftplusone> are you using slow media by any chance?
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[14:48] <logan0405> nope, the thing was, if i typed startx it would start speedy, but in .bash_profile/profile it was slow/glitchy
[14:49] <logan0405> you a pi dev?
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[14:49] <shiftplusone> kind of
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[14:49] <shiftplusone> well, yes.
[14:50] <logan0405> thats awesome. I think it was because I didn't include the if statement ill test that theory right now.
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[14:53] <logan0405> without the if statement it won't startx, it tries to but just black screen
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[14:53] <logan0405> maybe because it's trying to start it multiple times?
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[14:54] <logan0405> anyone here gotten mps-youtube to work on the pi? I'm having trouble with mplayer
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[14:54] <logan0405> all I know is the output it sends back after 2 minutes of video is garbage all other non streamed video works great.
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[14:57] <logan0405> iirc jessie mplayer worked so I'll try to backport it
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[19:15] <plugwash> shiftplusone, any comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457965 ?
[19:16] <shiftplusone> No idea why they have that notion. I don't have an A+ handy to test it though.
[19:16] <shiftplusone> plugwash: by the way, https://github.com/RPi-Distro/repo
[19:18] <TheLostAdmin> I find that comment in the bug description somewhat suspect. I'm running the latest Raspbian release on my Model B (not a B+, not a 2) without issues yet.
[19:19] <shiftplusone> Thanks
[19:19] <plugwash> I think most likely the user mis-flashed the image or has a bad SD card or other local issue but I thought i'd bring it to your attention anyway
[19:20] <shiftplusone> Yeah, thanks.
[19:20] <TheLostAdmin> Since I re-purposed it, I could even try re-flashing the SD card to be sure.
[19:20] <shiftplusone> I'm fairly confident that the report is just wrong and we would've heard about it before if it was an actual issue.
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[19:21] <plugwash> I've also seen some cases where people seem to be doing everything right but an upgrade just doesn't seem to work on their particular pi
[19:22] <methuzla> FWIW this is what's running on my A+: 3.18.7+ #755 PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:14:31 GMT 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[19:22] <shiftplusone> methuzla: that seems a little older than current.
[19:22] <shiftplusone> Linux serge-pi 3.18.11-v7+ #781 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 21 18:07:59 BST 2015 armv7l GNU/Linu
[19:22] <methuzla> probably
[19:23] <methuzla> v7 on A+ ??
[19:23] <shiftplusone> Nuh, this is a pi 2 of course
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[19:23] <TheLostAdmin> I might be a tad behind on my model B: Linux raspberrypi 3.18.11+ #781 PREEMPT Tue Apr 21 18:02:18 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[19:23] <shiftplusone> just pointing to what the current version is (3.18.11)
[19:24] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: nuh, that's current.
[19:24] <TheLostAdmin> you have the -v7. I don't.
[19:24] <shiftplusone> the v7 means armv7
[19:24] <TheLostAdmin> Oh. That makes sense.
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[20:29] <TheLostAdmin> where do I find documentation on how to make proper use of annoatate and annoatateex with raspistill for taking pictures using the Pi camera?
[20:30] <shiftplusone> probably forum posts by 6by9
[20:31] <TheLostAdmin> Specifically I would like to include the date/time (I figured that out) and a comment to the image (I can do comment but lose the date/time). I would also like to be able to change the text color and such to better contrast with the image(s).
[20:32] <TheLostAdmin> I found a few but the documentation is very incomplete.
[20:32] <shiftplusone> pull request =P
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[20:42] <TheLostAdmin> shiftplusone, I'll write a man page for it if I can get a complete list of the command line arguements and valid parameters =P
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[20:43] <shiftplusone> source code
[20:43] <TheLostAdmin> that's not a list
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[20:43] <shiftplusone> it's several lists
[20:43] <shiftplusone> there are arrays of applicable options
[20:44] <TheLostAdmin> which is exactly why people need them to be documented. Most of us can't read source code well enough or fast enough.
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[20:46] <shiftplusone> And why it's a pain to maintain. I've been sure to update the documentation for every change I've made to raspicam, but others may not have.
[20:46] <shiftplusone> Or have got things wrong, which is easy to do.
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[21:51] <methuzla> in case it still matters, now running on A+: 3.18.11+ #781 PREEMPT Tue Apr 21 18:02:18 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
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