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[0:49] <charles3214> Anyone here?
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[1:12] <vagrantc> charles3214: if you've got a question go ahead and ask it and wait patiently for a response :)
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[1:19] <charles3214> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/31809/momentary-switch-as-gpio-input-trouble-with-code-and-bouncing-floating
[1:19] <charles3214> Thanks vagrantc
[1:20] <charles3214> I've got it posted on stackexchange (might be easier to look at than posting in irc)
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[1:35] <methuzla> charles3214 the first code block and the wiring diagram have a pinout mismatch
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[1:35] <methuzla> charles3214 code is 22,23,24 diagram is 23,24,25
[1:36] <methuzla> charles3214 i'd also suggest replacing False with GPIO.LOW in the if statement for clarity
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[1:37] <methuzla> charles3214 the second code block has indentation issues, and the delay is way too low for software debounce
[1:39] <methuzla> charles3214 in fact, sleep(0.1) may be too slow as well (and just noticed it has a ; in first code block)
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[2:38] <charles3214> methuzla: thankyou I just noticed that myself :P code is now updated
[2:38] <charles3214> having bounce issues only now
[2:39] <methuzla> charles3214 link to latest code?
[2:39] <charles3214> http://pastebin.ca/3007741
[2:39] <charles3214> thankyou.
[2:41] <methuzla> you're still coding pin 22 which isn't hooked up per the hookup you linked
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[2:41] <logan0405> anyone have a way of running youtube on the pi?
[2:42] <logan0405> I'd rather not use the browser as its slow
[2:42] <methuzla> and you got rid of sleep() completely. you'll need that for software debounce
[2:42] <shiftplusone> youtube-dl and omxplayer
[2:42] <logan0405> can you search videos with youtube-dl?
[2:42] <shiftplusone> nope
[2:43] <methuzla> logan0405 youtu...nm
[2:43] <logan0405> darn. youtube dl sounds great I just want a way to search from command line
[2:47] <charles3214> sorry guys gave wrong pinout. I'm using 22,23 and 24 as GPIO in's. power and GND stay the same
[2:47] <charles3214> the buttons work just getting bounce
[2:48] <charles3214> like a billion inputs on press
[2:48] <methuzla> charles3214 add sleep(0.5) to your while loop
[2:49] <charles3214> what at the end?
[2:49] <methuzla> yes
[2:49] <charles3214> sorry im a shitty coder
[2:50] <charles3214> thanks. will it make it wait half a second every press? if using it as a volume control would it be painfully slow?
[2:50] <charles3214> also where does the sleep(0.5) go, do i indent it?
[2:50] <logan0405> ooh gpio pin volume control sounds fun
[2:51] <logan0405> what language is this
[2:51] <logan0405> python
[2:51] <charles3214> thanks logan0405 - i think a rotary encoder would be a better way tbh, but i need buttons for other stuff
[2:51] <charles3214> yes python
[2:51] <methuzla> charles3214 no, it will pause the loop for 0.5 seconds
[2:51] <charles3214> and do I indent it?
[2:51] <methuzla> charles3214 this is basically the most simple example of software debounce
[2:52] <methuzla> indent...in python....most critical
[2:52] <methuzla> so yes
[2:52] <charles3214> I don't get how tab moves things in really far, but most cost is only indented 3 or 6 spaces?
[2:52] <charles3214> cost* code
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[2:53] <methuzla> charles3214 one space is enough, any more is code style
[2:54] <methuzla> charles3214 more importantly, understand how/why python is using indent
[2:54] <charles3214> I have a lot to learn.
[2:54] <charles3214> i'll look up an indent tutorial after this.
[2:54] <charles3214> it works but only for the last button (24)
[2:54] <methuzla> charles3214 the whole indent thing is the biggest love/hate when it comes to python
[2:54] <charles3214> do i need to place it after each elif statement
[2:55] <methuzla> no
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[2:55] <methuzla> just once. at the end. indent the same as the last elif.
[2:56] <logan0405> Is it possible to set a lower resolution output from hdmi to my monitor?
[2:56] <charles3214> yay it works
[2:57] <charles3214> thanks methuzla i really appreciate it
[2:57] <logan0405> what did you make charles3214 ?
[2:57] <methuzla> logan0405 http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
[2:57] <charles3214> I had it indented the same as my last print, not elif
[2:57] <charles3214> it's pretty laggy tbh, is that because of the 0.5 second wait?
[2:58] <methuzla> yes
[2:58] <methuzla> now try 0.1
[2:59] <charles3214> are there any solutions you know off the top of your head? I've read about looking for rising and falling edges to combat bounce, then sampling it every 0.05
[2:59] <charles3214> I will do that now methuzla
[2:59] <charles3214> getting double inputs at 0.1
[2:59] <charles3214> so bounce i gues
[3:00] <methuzla> that's the trade off
[3:01] <methuzla> search and read up on debounce solutions, no easy answer, there are both software and hardware approaches
[3:01] <charles3214> sometimes when i press the button (even after a long pause of 3seconds) nothing happens
[3:01] <methuzla> it's in the 3 second sleep
[3:01] <charles3214> dodgey switches or do i need better code?
[3:02] <charles3214> it's only got 0.2s sleep
[3:02] <methuzla> oh, thought you crank sleep up that high.
[3:02] <charles3214> no just 0.2 - so i dont get why sometimes NO input
[3:02] <methuzla> press and hold
[3:02] <methuzla> still no response?
[3:03] <charles3214> yeah it scrolls at 0.2s
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[3:03] <charles3214> but it's like a 50/50 every time i press the button
[3:04] <charles3214> it's like gambling, best ive gotten is 5 presses with no response
[3:04] <charles3214> sometimes it does it every time
[3:04] <charles3214> weird
[3:04] <methuzla> whatever sleep is set at, it's going to sit there and do nothing for that amount of time
[3:04] <charles3214> yeah i get that
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[3:04] <charles3214> each press i do is atleast a full second or 2 apart
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[3:05] <methuzla> but for 0.2 seconds, it's not even looking at the buttons
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[3:05] <methuzla> if you press it in that window, it will get missed
[3:07] <charles3214> someone gave me a suggestion but I don't understand it
[3:07] <charles3214> here it is
[3:07] <charles3214> To re-iterate a point more strongly: Polling in userspace (particularly with sub 10 ms sleeps) when you can wait passively, indefinitely, on an interrupt from kernelspace is just silly. So rather than coming up with the "right" way to do things wrongly, you might want to consider aiming for the right way to do things the right way. Which is do not loop checking a gpio for changes of state. Block waiting for a callback.
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[3:10] <methuzla> well, like I said, search and read up on approaches to handling debounce
[3:11] <methuzla> a good image to drive it home would be a scope trace of what the voltage looks like on the input pin during a button press
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[3:12] <methuzla> it's kind of a mess (not a nice little square pattern)
[3:12] <logan0405> methuzla, resolution set worked great, thank ya!
[3:13] <methuzla> logan0405 glad it worked
[3:13] <logan0405> now only thing is, I want to switch window managers but I'm worried about volume & wifi apps.
[3:13] <logan0405> i love i3
[3:13] <charles3214> ok thanks methuzla have a good one
[3:13] <logan0405> but I won't have the convenient icons to switch between hdmi/analog output and search for network AP's
[3:13] <logan0405> and don't know the commands. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[3:14] <methuzla> charles3214 good luck, again, there's no one/best/easy solution. just various approaches with various trade offs.
[3:15] <methuzla> charles3214 and possibly using some things you haven't run into yet, like interrupts and callbacks and edge detects
[3:16] <logan0405> >when you think your washed pillowcase is a white shirt and spend 30 seconds trying to find arm holes
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[10:11] <BonaC> Hi!
[10:12] <BonaC> I can't remember right now, but was the Pi's USB controller and SD-card in the same bus?
[10:12] <dexta> morning
[10:13] <BonaC> If I have an USB device transferring data on full speed, will the SD card be slower?
[10:13] <BonaC> At least the ethernet and USB were in the same bus
[10:13] <BonaC> What I remember
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[10:21] <BonaC> From what I gather from the schematic, they're in separate buses.
[10:21] <BonaC> Okay, that's good.
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[14:24] <Nyctophilia> hello guys, would be great if someone could help me out, im getting crazy over this, even if it is a simple task... im running the current Raspbian Image on my Raspberry Pi 2 with kodi on it, and i want it to get idiot proof. the pi should run 24/7, because it also acts as downloadserver (pyload) - now if you exit kodi over the gui, you get back to the CLI. is there some way to automatically
[14:24] <Nyctophilia> check if kodi-standalone is down and restart it? this thing should run at my parents house and even if i tell them to not shutdown kodi, they will...
[14:24] <Nyctophilia> thanks in advance
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[14:29] * ShorTie thinkz, no such thing as 'idiot proof', they are awfull smart
[14:31] <ShorTie> can you just make a simple script to restart it correctly ??
[14:33] <Nyctophilia> LOL
[14:33] <Nyctophilia> well there is where my knowledge ends
[14:33] <Nyctophilia> that is why i am asking for help here
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[14:34] <ShorTie> how do you normally start it ??
[14:35] <Nyctophilia> oh
[14:35] <Nyctophilia> over the config under:
[14:36] <Nyctophilia> - /etc/default/kodi
[14:36] <Nyctophilia> ENABLED=1
[14:36] <Nyctophilia> USER=pi
[14:37] <Nyctophilia> 1 means autostart
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[14:38] <ShorTie> after it's shutdown, what happens if you type '/etc/default/kodi' ??
[14:39] <Nyctophilia> it starts probably
[14:40] <Nyctophilia> even worse
[14:40] <Nyctophilia> never had that before
[14:40] <Nyctophilia> i just exited kodi over gui, now i've got a blackscreen
[14:40] <Nyctophilia> no cli
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[14:41] <ShorTie> try it, you might like it, as they say
[14:41] <Nyctophilia> if ill try to run it as user pi, ill get permission error
[14:41] <ShorTie> oh, ok, time for a quick reboot i guess
[14:42] <ShorTie> might need a 'sudo' in front of it
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[14:42] <Nyctophilia> i have the user kodi also, will retry with it
[14:43] <Nyctophilia> wtf
[14:43] <Nyctophilia> can't login as user kodi over ssh
[14:43] <Nyctophilia> always crashes the putty-window after typing in the password and hitting enter
[14:43] <Nyctophilia> might have something to do with the blackscreen
[14:43] <Nyctophilia> will try with sudo rights on user pi
[14:44] <Nyctophilia> still no permission with root? wut
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[15:14] <Guest95808> hey guys!
[15:15] <Guest95808> anyone willing to help a newbie in distress ?? :)
[15:17] <Nyctophilia> dont ask if you can ask
[15:17] <Guest95808> sorry :)
[15:17] <Nyctophilia> just ask right away and give detailed info
[15:17] <Guest95808> i am not used to chats and staff
[15:17] <Nyctophilia> well im a newbie too
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[15:17] <Nyctophilia> but most people don't like that here
[15:17] <Guest95808> so basically I am trying to run a custom driver for raspbian, that will emulate spi over gpio
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[15:18] <Nyctophilia> just give detailled info and maybe somebody will answer in a few minutes/hours
[15:18] <Guest95808> thanks Nyctophilia:) will do :)
[15:18] <at0m> more specific you are, faster you'll find help
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[15:20] <Guest95808> so this is the driver spio-gpio-custom from https://randomcoderdude.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/spi-over-gpio-in-openwrt/, now I am running raspbian 3.18.13+, I managed to compile it for my kernel version. However while trying to install it (via insmod or modprobe) I am getting error message 'no such device'
[15:21] <Guest95808> for example, with spi-gpio-custom,ko in /lib/modules/3.18.13+/, with command sudo modprobe spi-gpio-custom bus1:1,0,5,6,0,100000,4 i get this error message
[15:22] <Guest95808> I am not sure it this is important, but I have enabled spi in raspi-config
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[15:28] <Guest95808> Or maybe - you have another solution to my original problem - currently I am trying to run several devices via SPI: lcd + touchscreen (wavepear 3.5'') and an ADC. Hardware SPI is already taken by lcd+touchscreen.. and this custom driver looks like a nice solution to run the ADC.
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[15:31] <Guest95808> ow yes, and this is raspberry pi b+
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[15:43] <Nyctophilia> Thanks for your help guys, I've solved it now by disabling the Power/Exitbutton by creating advancedsettings.xml under the kodi userdata folder with the following parameters: <advancedsettings>
[15:43] <Nyctophilia> <showexitbutton>false</showexitbutton>
[15:43] <Nyctophilia> </advancedsettings>
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[20:35] <logan0405> yay just got mps-youtube working now i can watch youtube videos on my pi with no lag
[20:35] <logan0405> downside is i have to figure out how to setup alsa and stuff because i did a fresh netinst of jessie for the new mplayer package
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[21:00] <logan0407> hey i changed my hdmi_mode in boot/config.txt to something my monitor doesnt support, so i get no display. is there any way to boot into a safe mode or something? I'm not on NOOBS
[21:02] <Jusii> insert card on pc and edit config
[21:03] <logan0407> did that. i cant see any items in /boot
[21:03] <Jusii> windows and mac will do, it's fat32 partition
[21:03] <Jusii> wrong partition
[21:04] <Jusii> check the other one
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[21:04] <logan0407> oooh! thank you friend
[21:04] <Jusii> np
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[21:05] <logan0407> didn't realize the 2nd partition was mounted to /boot
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[21:32] <scoofy> if one has some x86 assembly code, how troublesome is it to covert/port it to x64 asm?
[21:32] <scoofy> eh wrong chan sorry
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[21:44] <eggy> is Jessie still the "testing" branch for RPi
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[21:50] <scoofy> does Jessie even exist for rpi?
[21:50] <scoofy> i thought it's still wheezy, but you may use jessie repo
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[21:53] <eggy> I know there isn't an official Jessie image; but the repo does exist
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[21:54] <eggy> and I installed using the nework based installer, from this repo
[21:54] <eggy> wondering the repo's status I guess. if its still considered testing or stable, or what
[21:54] <scoofy> surely not stable yet
[21:55] <eggy> okay :)
[21:55] <scoofy> i've seen a few people complain about jessie issues (systemd errors etc.)
[21:55] <eggy> think with the rpi2, you can run official debian.. but I'm not certain
[21:55] <scoofy> yes you can
[21:55] <scoofy> as it has armv7
[21:56] <eggy> raspbain, from my understanding only came into existence because debain didn't support the original pi's arm chip
[21:57] <scoofy> yep.
[21:57] <scoofy> debian arm is armv7+
[21:57] <scoofy> pi1 is armv6
[21:57] <eggy> right, couldn't reacall if it was v6 or something else..
[21:57] <scoofy> v6.
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[23:18] <shay_shay> i am running pure debian on my pi2 and it works wonderfully
[23:18] <shay_shay> eggy scoofy
[23:18] <shay_shay> debian 8
[23:19] <eggy> I'm thinken about trying this myself shay_shay
[23:20] <shay_shay> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi eggy see under rpi 2 section, they link to the sjoerd.luon.net blog post
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[23:21] <shay_shay> http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/
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