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[0:04] <vagrantc> shay_shay: i presume with a custom kernel?
[0:04] * vagrantc thinks that tarnishes the purity a bit
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[0:41] <shay_shay> vagrantc: the kernel is a debian kernel with all the raspberry pi stuff ported to it
[0:42] <vagrantc> shay_shay: so not from debian? ;)
[0:43] <shay_shay> that doesnt make it not debian
[0:44] <vagrantc> i guess in my book, "pure debian" comes from debian.
[0:45] <vagrantc> so i just wanted to get clarity...
[0:46] * vagrantc hopes to see rpi2 patches mainlined
[0:49] <shay_shay> it did come from Debian, everything distro specific did
[0:49] <shay_shay> device specific stuff doesn't count like that
[0:50] <shay_shay> it may be tainted but its in all intents and purposes Debian and behaves like it too
[0:51] <shay_shay> its not like they just installed a vanilla kernel with RPI support added in
[0:51] <shay_shay> its a Debian kernel with RPI support added in
[0:52] <shay_shay> it will be mainline for stretch no doubt
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[1:00] <s7r> will there be a raspbian for jessie?
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[1:06] <vagrantc> s7r: raspbian for jessie exists. i don't know when the raspberry pi foundation will produce images based on jessie
[1:07] <vagrantc> shay_shay: i understand that... i did the initial work on the first raspbian kernels built using debian kernel source style packages...
[1:08] <vagrantc> shay_shay: but if it ain't in debian, i don't see how you can call it "pure debian". it just doesn't make sense to me.
[1:09] <vagrantc> not that there's anything wrong with doing that... it's all that's really available for the near future
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[1:53] <shay_shay> vagrantc: OK well we're on the same page, but I still feel like we're arguing semantics
[1:54] <shay_shay> besides the kernel the userspace is another thing, and that's virtually untouched as well
[1:55] <shay_shay> flash-kernel has one trivial change to it to point it to /boot/firmware/kernel7.img
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[4:52] <logan0407> hey so my pi seemingly always runs ifup on start & will not give me login unless it is able to complete ifup. how can I edit the start command so it will only try to start ifup and if it doesn't work it will still prompt me to login @ console
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[7:59] <dreamon> hello.having a strange issue using wicd. so want to try nm (network-manager). is nm working? Im not using any kinde of gui.
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[8:25] <dexta> morning
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[11:20] <charles52342> Hi. Anyone know the command for system volume on Raspbian?
[11:23] <charles52342> I'm currently using subprocess.call(['mpc', 'volume', '+2' ])
[11:24] <charles52342> but I don't want it to just be for things I'm playing in mpc
[11:24] <charles52342> I want it to be system wide
[11:24] <buu> charles52342: amixer?
[11:24] <buu> pulse?
[11:24] <buu> It depends on which mixer you're using
[11:25] <charles52342> how can I check
[11:25] <buu> do you have pacmd
[11:26] <charles52342> no?
[11:27] <charles52342> how about I just download the latest ALSA drivers
[11:27] <buu> do you have alsamixer?
[11:29] <charles52342> getting it now
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[11:29] <charles52342> then the command will be 'amixer ...'
[11:30] <charles52342> then the command will be 'amixer vol-'
[11:30] <charles52342> maybe?
[11:30] <charles52342> :(
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[12:53] <anunnaki> hello anyone happen to have squeezebox installed on their raspbians? need someone to check for a podcast for me
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[15:47] <squeakytoy> Hey all. if i basically just want to run a browser with flash support, what builds/images do you recommend?
[15:49] <hid3> Hello everyone. Any general (or specific) tips on how to save memory on Raspbian?
[15:50] <TheLostAdmin> general tip: don't run a GUI
[15:50] <hid3> I'm not.
[15:50] <hid3> I have reduced min free memory kept by kernel via sysctl
[15:50] <TheLostAdmin> Then you can adjust the GPU memory share to get more system RAM.
[15:50] <hid3> removed useless services, uninstalled the packages I don't use
[15:51] <hid3> I've also done that. It's reduced to minimum now (16 megabytes I believe)
[15:52] <hid3> The reason for saving memory is that I have a management page for a 'gallery' which works with image files. Sometimes it needs some RAM, when images are being uploaded/parsed
[15:52] <hid3> so I'd like to save all the spare megs possible
[15:52] <TheLostAdmin> well, those are my general tips. For me, it gets somewhat application specific now.
[15:53] <hid3> Is there any good place I can read about it? Except the suggestion to google around for 'raspbian reduce memory usage' or so
[15:54] <TheLostAdmin> not that I'm aware of. For the most part linux lacks proper documentation.
[15:54] <hid3> OK. Thanks for the info..
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[15:56] <squeakytoy> anyone tried windows 10?
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[15:57] <scoofy> hid3: use only cli apps.
[15:58] <scoofy> i don't think you can go much further than <16 MB mem use.
[15:58] <scoofy> optimize your image parsing program.
[16:00] <hid3> well, I've optimised it as much as I had knowledge. Wondering if it is possible to switch off some options on standart linux daemons (e.g. openssh, rsyslog, ...) to reduce the memory footprint..
[16:02] <spm_draget> Does the sd-card for the raspberry PI only need a primary fat partition (with the boot files) or does it need some magic string somewhere in the MBR / device to boot?
[16:11] <teclo-> spm_draget: on a Raspberry Pi, the boot process doesn't involve the mbr, it just involves "reading a vfat filesystem"
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[16:23] <spm_draget> teclo-: Mhmkay. Then, for whatever reason, my raspbian kernel did it's crap-out-to-rainbow again for no reason <.< Oh well, Ill debug that later
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[18:02] <Redbeard_> Heyho, I have a question... I've been trying to stream anything the RPI is playing (audio only) but no luck so far
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[18:02] <Redbeard_> Anyone here had success with that? I know there is a lot of online tuts but I can't really figure out what I really need to do
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[18:02] <hid3> Has anyone replaced OpenSSH with Dropbear?
[18:03] <Redbeard_> I haven't
[18:03] <joujou> Hi guys. I'd like to add the debian security updates to sources.list (the jessie ones), do you know if they'd conflict with something?
[18:04] <hid3> joujou: why do you want to do that? Raspbian has got its own security updates. Besides, jessie is another Debian version, not the one which Raspbian is based on
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[18:06] <joujou> hid3: there are raspbian jessie repositories though, my OS is switched to jessie. I can't find security updates for raspbian in the archive though
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[19:14] <lonza> hi, i want to use compute module otg usb port as device(gadget mass storage). is it possible?
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[19:22] <reber> hi
[19:22] <reber> anyone using openvz or xen on a raspberry ?
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[19:47] <reber> or any other virtualisation ?
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[19:52] <buu> Good lord why
[19:52] <at0m> !anyone
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