#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-06-25

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[3:00] <ankan^> With this Bash terminal, can i tail -f last? What i want is to have any sign in pop up on a tmux screen, so that i can see who is on the system
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[3:10] <Odie_> ankan^: how people connect to your box? if via ssh, then it's easy to tail that log instead
[3:11] <ankan^> Ah true, thanks Odie_ :)
[3:11] <Odie_> like /var/log/messages or /var/log/secure. I don't have my raspbian on atm, so I can't check whats the actual log file, but you could do something like: tail -f /var/log/secure|grep ssh
[3:13] <ankan^> Yea tail -f /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh.. Great to have irc.. i totaly forgot about this location / tools :)
[3:20] <ankan^> Thanks again!
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[7:56] <molgrum> to get rid of X all toghether, is this enough: apt-get remove --auto-remove --purge libx11-.*
[7:57] <molgrum> lightdm-gtk-greeter eats ALOT of RAM
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[7:58] <molgrum> wicd also, ~5%
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[8:16] <molgrum> anyone here? :)
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[8:18] <Skyrider> Somewhat
[8:18] <Skyrider> If I see a full screen raspberry black page with a lot of percentage..
[8:18] <Skyrider> what is it doing? some kind of hdd checkdisk?
[8:18] <molgrum> Skyrider: i just ran top
[8:19] <molgrum> and saw that it ate like 13% RAM
[8:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[8:19] <molgrum> no make that 17
[8:19] <molgrum> hello :)
[8:20] <Skyrider> thats not much?
[8:20] <molgrum> it's almost a fifth part of what i have, for nothing
[8:21] <molgrum> i don't use X :)
[8:22] <molgrum> but anyway, could i run that command? no harm done?
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[8:23] <molgrum> 8364 free
[8:23] <molgrum> that's my free RAM atm
[8:23] <molgrum> and i'm going to install nginx-light, so i want to make sure it doesn't lock up or something
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[8:42] <heller_> hello
[8:42] <heller_> anyone here know a usb 3g dongle, which would work with raspberry pi?
[8:42] <heller_> without external power stuff
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[8:46] <molgrum> here's a list of packages that will be removed: http://pastebin.com/eq6SV944
[8:46] <molgrum> and also some installed
[8:47] <Skyrider> I've moved my OS to my HDD
[8:47] <Skyrider> Is there anyway i can reinstall debian on the HDD without going back to microsd?
[8:48] <molgrum> if someone can take a look if i'm not removing anything important i'd be thankful :)
[8:49] <molgrum> gvfs for example, wonder what that does
[8:49] <Skyrider> google :)
[8:49] <molgrum> yeah i rad the docs
[8:49] <molgrum> read*
[8:50] <molgrum> gvfs - GIO virtual file system
[8:50] <molgrum> seems X-related yeah
[8:51] <Skyrider> I assume, important.
[8:52] <molgrum> maybe it's for mounting stuff in X
[8:53] <molgrum> just speculating
[8:53] <Skyrider> gvfs is a userspace virtual filesystem where mounts run as separate processes which you talk to via D-Bus. It also contains a gio module that seamlessly adds gvfs support to all applications using the gio API. It also supports exposing the gvfs mounts to non-gio applications using fuse.
[8:53] <molgrum> i don't think i need that
[8:53] <molgrum> but not sure :)
[8:55] <Skyrider> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38109/what-is-gvfs-and-why-should-i-want-it-on-my-system
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[9:19] <molgrum> Skyrider: yeah that's definitely an X thing
[9:20] <Skyrider> :)
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[9:25] <Skyrider> does the "noob" installation always create a default user/pass?
[9:25] <Skyrider> for the OS you've installed.
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[10:17] <ShorTie> don't think so, that is in the os it's self
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[11:08] <kumzugloom> hi there
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[12:55] <lacoste> hi
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[12:59] <lacoste> i would cross cross compile from ubuntu for raspbian arm with Qt lib (and Qt creator et gdb). i have cross-compiled the Qt lib (for me raspberry pi). now i can compile and auto-upload and remote execute with Qt creator
[13:00] <lacoste> but, i dont cant debug my projet. Qt creator say me error ""The selected build of GDB does not support Python scripting it cannot be used in Qt Creator"
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[13:01] <lacoste> how i can fix it, i use this toolchain for cross compiling: https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-raspbian/bin
[13:02] <lacoste> and this gdb tool, not include python scripting
[13:02] <lacoste> anyone can help me ?
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[13:22] <molgrum> i totally purged all X-related stuff, everything works :)
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[13:22] <molgrum> took a while to reboot
[13:22] <molgrum> (just)
[13:24] <lordievader> Shouldn't rebooting be faster? No need to load X...
[13:24] <molgrum> i dunno, can check logs
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[13:27] <molgrum> no i am stumped
[13:28] <molgrum> dunno why it took several minutes :)
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[13:29] <lordievader> Oh, it is still just minutes. That is simply the pi being a pi ;)
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[13:29] <lordievader> Mine takes 42 seconds to boot.
[13:30] <molgrum> yeah i have the Pi1
[13:30] <molgrum> so no surprise there
[13:31] <lordievader> Same here ;)
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[13:32] <molgrum> 1.9G used, according to df -h
[13:32] <molgrum> not too bad :)
[13:33] <molgrum> i'm thinking of doing a web page, using nginx-light, is SVN the way to go for a one-man project? or just SCP?
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[13:36] <molgrum> it's just a personal site, a presentation of myself
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[13:45] <lordievader> molgrum: Rather use git than svn.
[13:45] <molgrum> lordievader: any reason? :)
[13:46] <lordievader> Many. Git is awesome. Svn not so much.
[13:46] <molgrum> i know, but this is a simple web page
[13:47] <lordievader> Even for a simple web page a vcs is usefull.
[13:50] <molgrum> lordievader: ok let's look at it this way, in what situation do i need git?
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[13:51] <lordievader> For anything that you make changes to that you might want to revert later.
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[13:51] <molgrum> doesn't SVN do that also?
[13:52] <lordievader> Yes. But Git is nicer than SVN.
[13:52] <molgrum> i know :)
[13:52] <molgrum> but it feels overkill
[13:53] <molgrum> ""
[13:53] <lordievader> SVN is earlier overkill.
[13:53] <lordievader> Git is rather lightweight.
[13:54] <lordievader> https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnComparison
[13:55] <molgrum> okay
[13:55] <molgrum> you nag, so i will use git :P
[13:55] <molgrum> congratulations
[13:56] <lordievader> Pff
[13:56] <molgrum> hey feel proud
[13:56] <TheLostAdmin> lordievader, you could consider rcs. It's local filesystem only (no network component).
[13:56] <lordievader> TheLostAdmin: ?
[13:57] <jakllsch> there's always CVS :-)
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[13:58] <molgrum> lol CVS
[13:58] <TheLostAdmin> RCS is local filesystem command line only resource control system (i.e. versioning and history). Useful for single person projects only. On the up side, the repositories are compatible with CVS (which is the precursor to GIT and SVN).
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[13:58] <TheLostAdmin> Basically RCS is only useful for very tiny projects.
[13:58] <TheLostAdmin> Or, in my case, system config files.
[14:00] <lordievader> TheLostAdmin: Shouldn't you be telling molgrum this?
[14:01] <molgrum> TheLostAdmin: i'll use GIT, might be adding javascript and stuff
[14:01] <TheLostAdmin> Oh, ya probably.
[14:01] <TheLostAdmin> Just want you to know there are options.
[14:01] <lordievader> There are allways options, it's linux ;)
[14:02] <molgrum> :)
[14:02] <TheLostAdmin> Ya, but sometimes it's hard to find out what those options are.
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[14:03] <lordievader> That comes with experience.
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[14:42] <molgrum> hmm, it removed lsb-release... that doesn't sound good
[14:45] <lordievader> 'it'?
[14:45] <molgrum> the purge i did
[14:45] <molgrum> i did an autoremove just now
[14:45] <molgrum> and it removed lsb-release
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[14:50] <lordievader> Guess nothing depended on it anymore.
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[15:12] <molgrum> down to 1.6G now :)
[15:13] <molgrum> for the whole system
[15:14] <molgrum> btw, what's the ETA when i can set raspberry.org repo to jessie?
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[15:18] <shiftplusone> molgrum: no ETA. Whenever the third party package contributors send the essential stuff in. That's sonic pi, epiphany, mathematica and so on.
[15:18] <molgrum> shiftplusone: okay, thanks
[15:18] <shiftplusone> although, the repo itself could be updated to useable by people not interested in those things... I'll do that tomorrow, if I don't forget.
[15:19] <molgrum> shiftplusone: any forum post or news where i can get the information that it's safe to switch?
[15:20] <molgrum> although i don't use those programs you mentioned
[15:20] <shiftplusone> Probably when jessie images start popping up here http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/
[15:21] <molgrum> okay
[15:21] <molgrum> i'll probably just hang around the channel
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[15:53] <Skyrider> Things really get on my nerves if I can't get something to work..
[15:53] <Skyrider> anyone here familiar with spotcommander?
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[18:38] <molgrum> lordievader: i need some help, people in #git won't answer :/
[18:38] <dougl> molgrum, how aqre you
[18:38] <lordievader> molgrum: Shoot ;)
[18:38] <molgrum> hi dougl
[18:38] <molgrum> i'm reading this: http://gitolite.com/deploy.html
[18:38] <molgrum> and i don't understand what a post-receive hook is
[18:39] * dougl nods to lordievader
[18:39] <molgrum> also don't understand what magic command to use
[18:39] <lordievader> molgrum: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Hooks
[18:39] <lordievader> Hey dougl
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[18:40] <molgrum> lordievader: ok thanks, more reading
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[18:41] <lordievader> Ofcourse, you are using Linux ;)
[18:41] <molgrum> :P
[18:41] <dougl> molgrum, but you could have guessed that - no?
[18:41] <molgrum> dougl: the post-receive hook? not a chance
[18:41] <molgrum> i'm totally fresh at git
[18:42] <dougl> I inserted disk but I cant find the any key
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[18:42] <molgrum> rub it in
[18:42] <dougl> molgrum, guessed there would be reading involved...
[18:43] <molgrum> aha, yeah that i knew
[18:43] <dougl> the only successful guessing I have done in linux is - "it is broken I guess I will re install the distro"
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[18:43] <molgrum> haha
[18:44] * dougl has used that guess many times over the years.
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[18:48] <lordievader> That is no guessing... That is not willing do dive in.
[18:50] <dougl> ... I have drown too many times, although now with irc so popular I bug lordievader to help me fix things :P
[18:51] <dougl> but irc is major help
[18:51] <lordievader> ...
[18:51] <lordievader> But it is fun when things are broken. They give you the chance to learn something new.
[18:52] <dougl> Oh I love it when I learn something new.
[18:54] <dougl> I am such a poor reader tho I don't google as much as I should but visit to a channel then get some pointers to refine my search or a direct url and bang... the cogs start turning again
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[18:57] <dougl> Speaking of fixing, I do have a server down and a pi who's home dir '~' disappeared and re appeared after a reboot... talk at you all later yell if ya need me.
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[19:31] <molgrum> lordievader: regarding git as deployment method. can i go ahead and create the server directory and put some basic stuff there first?
[19:31] <molgrum> before installing the repo
[19:32] <molgrum> i'd like to configure nginx first
[19:32] <molgrum> or if dougl knows :)
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