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[1:08] <KingKai> need help with getting the utility to read ntfs-3g for my pi
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[1:12] <KingKai> anyone out there lol
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[1:25] <jock_ewing> so raspbian is very cool, great releases. but im waiting for a hardware accelerated canvas. will it ever come?
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[1:28] <jock_ewing> are there any hardware accelerated browsers for raspbian?
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[1:52] <DaveGomez> Hello, I'm having a really hard time trying to configure my fstab file so the raspi automatically mount the USB Drive on boot with pi user writing permissions, it always mount it as root and can't write without sudo, this is the line I have in my fstab file "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 vfat user,umask=022 0 1", can anybody help me with this please?
[1:56] <DaveGomez> ?
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[2:36] <Hydr0> Hello everyone i recently tried building and running mupen64plus with ricevideo. It seems to want to load okay but it doesnt output on my display. I have a TFT LCD hooked up. When I start X it displays on the LCD but other than that the mupen64 / other emulators seem to just run in background leaving me at the terminal. Any Suggestions? Thanks.
[2:38] <jock_ewing> can i ask what lcd you have? a specific brand name is cool
[2:38] <Hydr0> Sainsmart
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[2:39] <Hydr0> AC-TFT35-V2.1
[2:40] <Hydr0> Output of MUPEN64 - http://pastebin.com/QrhuHmFS
[2:40] <jock_ewing> x is not hardware accelerated, i think its a driver problem
[2:41] <jock_ewing> can you run mupen64 through hdmi?
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[2:43] <Hydr0> in all honesty i was thinking of doing that just to narrow it down and i knew i should of tried it first before asking i plan on doing that next. Currently HDMI is inuse by another person. Was thinking of anything else i could try while waiting.
[2:43] <Hydr0> in all honesty i was thinking of doing that just to narrow it down and i knew i should of tried it first before asking i plan on doing that next. Currently HDMI is inuse by another person. Was thinking of anything else i could try while waiting.
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[2:45] <jock_ewing> Hydr0: im not sure, i think mupen64 needs opengles drivers
[2:46] <jock_ewing> oh sound it found gl es driver, cool
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[2:51] <jock_ewing> im not experienced, enough, but i will tell you that you can run opengl programs without start x
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[2:53] <Hydr0> yes thats what im trying to do i have it from terminal and it stays there seems to just keep updating framerate. If i load it from inside a X session it freezes the screen on the LCD till i push esc to kill the program. Im new with the raspberry pi. myself. but it seems like its a stupid thing im missing. =\
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[3:07] <cookienapper> hello ppl
[3:08] <cookienapper> Linux newb in need of assistance with his Pi B+
[3:09] <cookienapper> Anyone? >_< I have been trying to resolve this through google for the past 2 hours...
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[3:16] <cookienapper> hi
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[3:29] <jock_ewing> hello, im a newb too
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[3:42] <Hydr0> What seems to be the problem see if i can offer any help?
[3:47] <cookienapper> Hydr0 are you still there? I was working on my Pi
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[4:17] <Hydr0> Ok back, It seems to be emulating fine via the HDMI output. a little laggy but i didnt configure it for that exact game so that is expected. I need to figure out how to make it output on the LCD i have connected to the pi's GPIO pinout.
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[4:48] <Hydr0> Might have found my answer - https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=88431&p=622629
[4:50] <jock_ewing> yes, i saw another article talking about cp fb0 to fb1
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[5:30] <cookienapper> Is anyone here? :D
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[5:30] <cookienapper> anyone here familiar with browsing using the PI?
[5:34] <cookienapper> or if anyone have extensive experience with various pi browsers... please let me know
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[8:09] <jock_ewing> so raspbian is very cool, great releases. but im waiting for a hardware accelerated canvas. will it ever come?
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[8:53] <belette> hi bonjour
[8:54] <belette> somebody use plex on raspberry pi 2 ?
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[9:28] <KingKai> anyone able to help me with getting the ntfs-3g utility on my rasp pi?
[9:28] <M`vy> hey :)
[9:29] <M`vy> what did you do yet?
[9:30] <shiftplusone> KingKai: based on that information alone, no.
[9:30] <shiftplusone> and people typically aren't too keen to volunteer to help when they don't know what the problem is yet.
[9:33] <KingKai> lol
[9:33] <KingKai> i was setting up my pi as a nas
[9:33] <KingKai> i configured a static ip
[9:33] <KingKai> am able to ssh into it
[9:34] <KingKai> but when i go to the sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g command i get a weird return
[9:34] <KingKai> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: ntfs-3g 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 694 kB of archives. After this operation, 1,513 kB of additional disk space will be used. WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ntfs-3g Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
[9:35] <M`vy> That means there is a key missing in the default raspbian keyring I guess
[9:35] <KingKai> hmm
[9:36] <KingKai> do go on good sir
[9:36] <M`vy> well it's not that problematic
[9:36] <KingKai> lol
[9:36] <M`vy> answering yes will install the package and skip the test
[9:36] <shiftplusone> ahm.... kind of a bad idea
[9:36] <M`vy> it just mean you are not sure the package is "official"/"verified"
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[9:36] <shiftplusone> means you could be subject to a man in the middle attack right now
[9:37] <M`vy> so technically you could be using a rogue repository for that package
[9:37] <shiftplusone> (very unlikely, but the check is there for a reason)
[9:37] <KingKai> ah ok
[9:37] <KingKai> when i hit yes i get this
[9:37] <KingKai> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main ntfs-3g armhf 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1 Something wicked happened resolving 'mirrordirector.raspbian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/n/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g_2012.1.15AR.5-2.1_armhf.deb Something wicked happened resolving 'mirrordirector.r
[9:38] <KingKai> ssociated with hostname) E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[9:38] <KingKai> sorry the second post was supposed to go with the first
[9:39] <M`vy> did you run an apt-get update recently?
[9:39] <KingKai> no i can try that
[9:40] <M`vy> Hum I got "Ign" on mine
[9:40] <KingKai> this is what i got lol
[9:40] <KingKai> sudo apt-get update Err http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'raspberrypi.collabora.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org wheezy Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'mirrordirector.raspbian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) Ign http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy Release Err http://archiv
[9:40] <M`vy> the collabora one should work
[9:40] <M`vy> what do you get when typing :
[9:41] <M`vy> nslookup raspberrypi.collabora.com
[9:41] <KingKai> nslookup: command not found
[9:42] <M`vy> ah crap lol
[9:42] <KingKai> lol
[9:42] <M`vy> what's in your file named : /etc/resolv.cong
[9:42] <M`vy> conf*
[9:43] <KingKai> # Generated by resolvconf
[9:43] <M`vy> no more lines?
[9:43] <KingKai> lol nope
[9:44] <M`vy> well, you should try to add here 3 lines:
[9:44] <M`vy> beginning each with nameserver
[9:44] <M`vy> then space then an IP address
[9:45] <M`vy> 1st. the address of your gateway
[9:45] <M`vy> 2nd. the first Google DNS server which is 8.8.8
[9:45] <M`vy> 2nd. the first Google DNS server which is 8.8.8.8
[9:45] <shiftplusone> resolv.conf will get overwritten, use /etc/resolvconf.conf
[9:45] <M`vy> 3rd. the second Google DNS server which is 8.8.4.4
[9:45] <M`vy> shiftplusone: weird thing on my pi, there is no resolvconf command at all
[9:46] <shiftplusone> M`vy: i think it gets dragged in when avahi-daemon gets installed.
[9:46] <shiftplusone> on the official image, which is a relatively new addition
[9:46] <M`vy> oh
[9:46] <KingKai> so do i do this in a nother file?
[9:46] <shiftplusone> so if you're using an old image or something you've rolled yourself or a netinstall, you won't have it.
[9:47] <KingKai> im not sure what that means :)
[9:47] * M`vy is thinking
[9:47] <M`vy> so config in the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[9:47] <KingKai> just to be sure that i set up the static ip right
[9:48] <KingKai> how do you confirm what your default gateway is
[9:48] <KingKai> i read somewhere that some one had the same issue due to their gateway being wrong in /etc/network/interfaces
[9:49] <M`vy> Well I know your problem, you have no DNS server
[9:49] <KingKai> ok
[9:49] <M`vy> so for your computer any url means literally nothing
[9:49] <KingKai> is that something i failed to setup or?
[9:49] <M`vy> maybe you can add
[9:50] <KingKai> ok
[9:50] <M`vy> dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[9:50] <KingKai> this goes..
[9:50] <M`vy> in /etc/network/interfaces
[9:50] <M`vy> under the "iface eth0 inet ..."
[9:51] <M`vy> then reboot the networking service (service networking restart i guess)
[9:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[9:51] <M`vy> hi
[9:51] <KingKai> auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.178.XX gateway 192.168.178.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 allow-hotplug wlan0 iface wlan0 inet manual wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf iface default inet dhcp
[9:52] <KingKai> is what i have....oh god the formatting is terrible...sorry
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[9:53] <M`vy> you should pastebin it
[9:54] <M`vy> would be easier
[9:54] <M`vy> by the way I typed 192.168.0.1 in my message
[9:54] <M`vy> you should change that to your gateway IP
[9:55] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/hrzQuRtT
[9:56] <M`vy> yeah then add dns-nameservers 192.168.178.1 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 after the netmask of eth0
[9:56] <KingKai> ok so 192.168.0.1 instead of 192.168.178.1
[9:56] <M`vy> no, put the address you have in gateway
[9:56] <M`vy> 192.168.178.1
[9:57] <M`vy> I trust you have a modem or machine with this IP on your network?
[9:57] <M`vy> if you don't, you have to find the IP of your router/modem/... and change these
[9:57] <KingKai> ok so leave it as is, although i would like to know if im looking at the right ip address for the gateway. in the tutorial it had me run ipconfig /all on my laptop to find it
[9:58] <M`vy> What's your network look likes?
[9:58] <M`vy> Home network?
[9:58] <M`vy> With a router + PC connected on it?
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[9:58] <KingKai> it is a home network if thats what you mean and yes wireless router, laptop connected
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[9:59] <M`vy> the PI is connected by cable?
[9:59] <M`vy> or Wifi ?
[9:59] <KingKai> cable to the router
[9:59] <M`vy> ok
[9:59] <M`vy> What I would do right now is:
[9:59] <M`vy> copy the /etc/network/interfaces file somewhere
[10:00] <M`vy> then get rid of line 7 8 and 9
[10:00] <M`vy> change inet static to inet dhcp
[10:00] <M`vy> and run the command : dhclient (probably using root)
[10:00] <M`vy> that should ask your router for an IP addess for the PI
[10:00] <M`vy> which will come with the right config for the gateway and DNS as well
[10:01] <KingKai> ok. so i just need to change it from static to dhcp and remove those lines and then save restart then relaod, and run dhclient command
[10:01] <M`vy> might be possible that the IP of the PI changes to something
[10:02] <M`vy> yeah pretty much that
[10:02] <M`vy> you don't have to reboot though
[10:02] <M`vy> be sure you still have physicall access to the pi :)
[10:02] <M`vy> cause the router might choose a new ip for it
[10:03] <M`vy> (you can eventually use the router settings to make the address permanent)
[10:04] <M`vy> when all this is done you can run "ip a" to see info on your IP/gateway
[10:04] <M`vy> ah no... there is no gateway in that command. my bad
[10:06] <molgrum> systemd-journald takes up 21.8% RAM, what the hell is going on...
[10:07] <lordievader> molgrum: How is it set up?
[10:07] <molgrum> lordievader: not sure, i haven't done anythign with it aafaik
[10:08] <lordievader> Hmm, here it is unconfigured, doesn't use a lot of ram.
[10:08] <molgrum> i wonder if i can dpkg-reconfigure it or something
[10:08] <molgrum> might be bad
[10:09] <lordievader> molgrum: Just configure it in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
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[10:11] <KingKai> M'vy: when i entered the dhclient command it said:
[10:12] <KingKai> RENETLINK answers: operation not permitted
[10:12] <M`vy> using sudo?
[10:12] <KingKai> ahh....
[10:12] <KingKai> no
[10:12] <KingKai> lol
[10:12] <M`vy> :)
[10:14] <KingKai> got this
[10:14] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/w9sZaxQT
[10:15] <M`vy> interesting
[10:15] <M`vy> what does "ip a" yields?
[10:17] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/fesnHNp3
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[10:18] <M`vy> do you get something when you "sudo route" ?
[10:19] <M`vy> should yield 2 lines
[10:19] * lordievader points to 'ip route' the replacement for 'route'
[10:19] <M`vy> +1
[10:20] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/Zm6P24M4
[10:20] <lordievader> Is fritz.box getting resolved?
[10:20] <M`vy> that seems interesting
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[10:20] <M`vy> can you try to "ping www.google.com"
[10:21] <M`vy> lordievader: I guess it's coming from the router in the DHCP pack
[10:22] <KingKai> its pinging still
[10:22] <M`vy> KingKai: does the content of the /etc/resolv.conf has been modified?
[10:22] <M`vy> KingKai: you get replies or errors?
[10:22] <lordievader> What was the original problem? (/me is too lazy to read the backlog)
[10:22] <KingKai> i assume this will keep pinging untill forever?
[10:22] <M`vy> if you don't stop the ping it keeps going on :)
[10:22] <M`vy> ctrl-c it
[10:23] <M`vy> lordievader: interface configuration was not complete (possibly wrong)
[10:23] <M`vy> no resolver set up
[10:23] <M`vy> so the package couldn't be updated
[10:23] <lordievader> But ping www.google.com worked? So that is fixed?
[10:23] <M`vy> yep should be
[10:24] <KingKai> ping results http://pastebin.com/aupAX2un
[10:24] <lordievader> Ok, cool.
[10:24] <M`vy> good
[10:24] <M`vy> KingKai: you can run sudo apt-get update now
[10:24] <KingKai> ok one sec
[10:24] <M`vy> (withouth the now of course)
[10:24] <KingKai> eureka!
[10:25] <KingKai> probably misspelled that...
[10:25] <KingKai> anyways. so now i have connection and before i didnt, so does this mean i set it up wrong?
[10:25] <KingKai> also, update is done, so do i try to get the ntfs utility?
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[10:28] <M`vy> yep
[10:28] <M`vy> let's see
[10:28] <molgrum> lordievader: i read the man page but can't find how to limit RAM usage... DDGing a bit now
[10:28] <M`vy> (it might still yield the key error though)
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[10:29] <M`vy> KingKai: I have to go buy lunch
[10:29] <lordievader> molgrum: Does it keep everything in ram or does it write to disk?
[10:29] <M`vy> So keep me posted I'll be back later
[10:29] <KingKai> ok enjoy your lunch!
[10:29] <molgrum> lordievader: no idea, i can check the size of my journal
[10:29] <M`vy> thanks
[10:29] <KingKai> no problem
[10:30] <molgrum> lordievader: 49 MB
[10:30] <lordievader> molgrum: Could you pastebin your journald config?
[10:30] <molgrum> sure
[10:30] <KingKai> its working by the way!
[10:31] <molgrum> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/fTagKqtn
[10:33] <lordievader> molgrum: You could set Storage to persistent.
[10:33] <molgrum> okay
[10:36] <molgrum> hrm, how do i restart it now...
[10:39] <molgrum> ok, 5.8% now
[10:40] <molgrum> more than double the size free :)
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[10:47] <KingKai> any one know why when i try to mkdir it comes back with cannot create directory permission denied?
[10:48] <lordievader> KingKai: Because you have no write rights in that directory?
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[10:48] <KingKai> ah ok
[10:49] <KingKai> well im fallowing a tutorial on how to make the rasp pi a nas. just finished following the instructions to get the ntfs-3g utility, added it to the fstab and the next stab was to make the appropriate directory but im stuck becasue i dont have permission
[10:49] <KingKai> following*
[10:50] <lordievader> KingKai: sudo is your friend, be sure to read the man page: man sudo
[10:50] <KingKai> so enter sudo mkdir and then the rest?
[10:51] <KingKai> sorry, but im brand new to this if you cant tell
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[10:54] <lordievader> KingKai: Yes.
[10:58] <KingKai> ok cool that worked. but no another problem lol
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[10:59] <KingKai> after making the directory i was told to sudo umount /dev/sda1
[10:59] <KingKai> no problem there it returened: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[11:00] <KingKai> then i was told to sudo mount -a
[11:00] <KingKai> the first time i got it, it said: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. fuse: failed to access mountpoint /meda/MediaStorage: No such file or directory
[11:01] <KingKai> second time: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /meda/MediaStorage: No such file or directory
[11:01] <KingKai> i notice it says /meda/MediaStorage ..........but i dont see where i asked it to mount the misspelled /meda
[11:05] <lordievader> Adjust the commands to your situation.
[11:05] <lordievader> You should never blindly copy and paste stuff.
[11:10] <KingKai> i want able to copy and past the commands, but im wondering where this /meda came from
[11:10] <KingKai> perhaps it was a typo, but i dont see in the command lines where i made the typo
[11:11] <KingKai> wasnt*
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[11:16] <lordievader> Copy and pasting usually goes wrong, as you could see. In this case it has done no harm, but it could.
[11:17] <M`vy> back
[11:17] <KingKai> hey welcome back
[11:17] <KingKai> so the utility downloaded!
[11:17] <M`vy> good
[11:17] <KingKai> and i continued on with the tutorial, but i got stuck again....lol
[11:18] <KingKai> this is what happened
[11:18] <M`vy> ah ah :0
[11:18] <KingKai> In reviewing your Fall 2014 semester enrollment history, you received the grade of Fn (failure non-attendance) for the online course SPCH100. This was reported to the VA on 4 March 2015.
[11:18] <KingKai> well besides that i mean this is what happened haha... after making the directory i was told to sudo umount /dev/sda1 [12:59] <KingKai> no problem there it returened: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted [13:00] <KingKai> then i was told to sudo mount -a [13:00] <KingKai> the first time i got it, it said: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. fuse: failed to access mou
[11:19] <M`vy> yeah I have the backlog on IRC
[11:20] <M`vy> the command mount should tell you what is mounted
[11:20] <KingKai> so sudo mount
[11:20] <M`vy> well in fact the thing is (let's start from the beginning)
[11:20] <KingKai> ok
[11:20] <M`vy> mount with no arg does not need root
[11:21] <KingKai> ill take your word for it lol
[11:21] <M`vy> you have devices (hardware) like the sd card, like the external harddrive used for your NAS
[11:21] <KingKai> correct
[11:21] <M`vy> the are all registered in /dev/xxx
[11:21] <KingKai> yes sir
[11:21] <M`vy> example my sd is /dev/sda2
[11:22] <M`vy> might be /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 on yours
[11:22] <M`vy> mount points are defined in the /etc/fstab
[11:23] <M`vy> in there you say basically : I want to access the device name /dev/sda1 at the path /mnt/hdd (example)
[11:23] <KingKai> yea which is what i had to do in the tutorial
[11:23] <M`vy> the /mnt/hdd is called the mount point
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[11:23] <M`vy> So you have first to be sure that the /dev/xxx in fstab is the right one
[11:23] <KingKai> ok
[11:24] <M`vy> for this I usually do:
[11:24] <M`vy> create an empty directory with mkdir (in the home for example)
[11:24] <M`vy> then manuall mount (with sudo) mount /dev/xxx myTempDir
[11:24] <M`vy> and check the content in mytempDir
[11:25] <M`vy> you might need to specify -t ntfs in the mount command if it does not mount automatically
[11:25] <M`vy> if it's the ood one (you can see the files on your external harddrive) then you "umount myTempDir"
[11:26] <M`vy> and set the fstab accordingly
[11:26] <ShorTie> " cat /etc/mtab | grep '/dev/sd' " is a handy command to see if and where hdd are mounted
[11:26] <lordievader> And "(sudo) parted /dev/sdX print" a nice way of listing partitions on a drive.
[11:26] <M`vy> ShorTie: the thing is, it might not be mounted
[11:27] <KingKai> in the tutorial it had me do this: sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS /dev/sda1 2048 3906963455 1953480704 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[11:27] <KingKai> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[11:28] <KingKai> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:28] <M`vy> ah nice
[11:29] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/jViuVWUB
[11:29] <KingKai> and this is how i set it up as per the instructions
[11:29] <M`vy> so I get your sure of the /dev/sdX file corresponding to the right dik
[11:30] <M`vy> ok can you ls in /meda/MediaStorage
[11:30] <KingKai> yepper
[11:30] <M`vy> (btw it looks like a typo)
[11:30] <M`vy> meda instead of media?
[11:30] <KingKai> oh crap
[11:30] <KingKai> *bangs head on key board*
[11:30] <KingKai> fjadsnhfLKFHJI;LDKHJIDkj;ikj
[11:30] <M`vy> unless your directory is called meda :)
[11:31] <KingKai> lol no i made that one right
[11:32] <KingKai> so now that i changed it, when i did sudo mount -a it seems to have worked lol
[11:34] <M`vy> good
[11:39] <molgrum> lordievader: seems RAM is growing still :(
[11:39] <molgrum> lordievader: i'll keep an eye on it
[11:40] <ShorTie> linux will eat up all the ram that is availible shown by like top, but means nothing as it will freely be released as needed
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[11:42] <leio> the "cached" value is what can be freely released as needed; unused RAM is wasted RAM; cached is caching HDD and such to speed things up when needed again
[11:44] <at0m|c> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[11:45] <leio> firefox and chromium and such eat my ram for real :)
[11:45] <KingKai> so new problem
[11:47] <KingKai> mounted the drive, no problem
[11:49] <KingKai> using sudo mount -a
[11:49] <KingKai> then i did: cd /media/MediaStorage
[11:49] <KingKai> and no problem, it took me into the hard drive
[11:50] <KingKai> i used the ls command and it displayed all the contents of the drive
[11:50] <KingKai> so the next step was to reboot the pi in order to make sure it would still be saved in there
[11:53] <KingKai> rebooted, logged in, and then entered the cd /media/MediaStorage like instructed in the tutorial and the drive successfully comes up and shows its still mounted
[11:53] <KingKai> HOWEVER, when i type in the command ls....nothing shows up in the drive
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[11:53] <at0m|c> KingKai: run 'mount'
[11:53] <M`vy> if it show nothing, it's probably not mounted
[11:54] <M`vy> fstab should have an option for automount
[11:55] <KingKai> i thought that this was proof that it remained mounted http://pastebin.com/SWJNZFfx
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[11:55] <M`vy> not really
[11:55] <M`vy> in fact the mount point is initially an empty directory
[11:56] <M`vy> when you issue the mount command, it binds the device /dev/sdX to the mount point
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[11:56] <M`vy> and the mount point acts like it's the root of the drive
[11:56] <KingKai> ok
[11:57] <M`vy> so when you umount or reboot, the mount point revert to it's empty directory form
[11:57] <M`vy> in the fstab you have :
[11:57] <M`vy> /dev/sdaX /media/MediaStorage ntfs-3g defaults 0 2 ?
[11:58] <M`vy> (the numbers at the end are not that relevant)
[11:58] <M`vy> and maybe it's ntfs (without -3g)
[11:59] <KingKai> to get there again i go to sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:59] <KingKai> right
[11:59] <M`vy> no sudo, but yes
[11:59] <M`vy> (well if you don't edit the file of course)
[11:59] <M`vy> reading is usually ok for any user
[12:00] <KingKai> here it is http://pastebin.com/XeXqkPY0
[12:01] <M`vy> that's weird defaults should include auto
[12:01] <KingKai> hm i just set it up how he did in the tutorial
[12:01] <M`vy> yeah seems good to me
[12:01] <KingKai> and his, when rebooted, stayed mounted
[12:02] <M`vy> you should nromally be able to ls the directory at boot
[12:02] <KingKai> which when i reboot and enter cd /media/MediaStorage i get this: pi@NASmedia /media/MediaStorage $
[12:02] <M`vy> and ls yields nothing?
[12:02] <KingKai> and then when i enter ls...nothing....
[12:02] <M`vy> hm
[12:03] <KingKai> i have to do the sudo mount -a all over again to be able to see anything in it
[12:03] <M`vy> after a mount -a it's ok ?
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[12:05] <KingKai> this shows my entries from reboot. http://pastebin.com/eA1UAfdd
[12:05] <M`vy> maybe you should just add an "auto" option, just after the locale (separated with a , like you can see on the previous line)
[12:07] <KingKai> so locale,auto,=en_us.utf8
[12:08] <M`vy> no
[12:08] <M`vy> locale=en_us.utf8 is one option
[12:08] <M`vy> cannot be separated
[12:08] <M`vy> goes like: defaults,auto,locale=en_us.utf8 or defaults,locale=en.us-utf8,auto
[12:08] <M`vy> order does not matter
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[12:09] <M`vy> I'm also reading that your mount point /media/MediaStorage should have write permission for others
[12:09] <KingKai> im rebooting it now to see if the auto option helps
[12:10] <KingKai> meaning that no one else would be able to write to the storage?
[12:10] <M`vy> I think it won't. It should be already in "defaults"
[12:11] <KingKai> no dice :(
[12:11] <M`vy> what does ls -l /media/ gives you?
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[12:11] <M`vy> do you have drxwrxwrw- MediaStorage ?
[12:12] <KingKai> returns: MediaStorage
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[12:12] <M`vy> it should also display the permissions
[12:12] <KingKai> hmm
[12:12] <M`vy> ls -l
[12:12] <KingKai> is this related to it unmounting each time i reboot?
[12:13] <KingKai> ls -1 returns nothing
[12:13] <M`vy> it's a letter l
[12:13] <M`vy> not a (one) 1
[12:14] <KingKai> lsi get: total 0
[12:14] <M`vy> lsi???
[12:14] <KingKai> is that a command lol
[12:15] <KingKai> oh sorry
[12:15] <M`vy> I don't think so
[12:15] <KingKai> i thought you were telling me to input that
[12:15] <KingKai> it was a typo
[12:15] <M`vy> ah no
[12:15] <KingKai> it should say I get: total 0
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[12:15] <KingKai> when i enter ls -l
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[12:16] <M`vy> ls -l /media/
[12:16] <M`vy> would be more interesting in fact
[12:16] <M`vy> or ls -l if you are in /media already :)
[12:16] <KingKai> ah because i put it as a 1 last time...this time i got
[12:16] <M`vy> (it defaults to the current directory)
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[12:17] <KingKai> total 4
[12:17] <KingKai> then
[12:17] <KingKai> drwxr-xr-x 2 root 4096 jul 8 12:55 MediaStorage
[12:17] <M`vy> ok
[12:17] <M`vy> so let's try this:
[12:18] <M`vy> sudo chmod 775 /media/MediaStorage
[12:19] <KingKai> ok done
[12:19] <M`vy> then you should see "drxwrxwrw- MediaStorage" if you run the previous ls command again
[12:20] <KingKai> i have to be in the /media to just use ls command right?
[12:20] <M`vy> you have a choice : either type ls -l in /media
[12:20] <KingKai> because when i do this: pi@NASmedia ~ $ ls
[12:21] <M`vy> or type ls -l /media/ from anywhere
[12:21] <KingKai> i get a return about python_games lol
[12:21] <M`vy> that's because with no argument ls list the content of the current directory
[12:21] <KingKai> ok
[12:22] <KingKai> so i ran it and got the same long message again i posted earlier, total 4
[12:22] <KingKai> actually its a little different hold on
[12:22] <M`vy> Well I hope it is :P
[12:22] <M`vy> the d--------- thing before MediaStorage should have changed
[12:22] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/jLcgFqRe
[12:23] <KingKai> it did indeed
[12:23] <M`vy> ok try to reboot again
[12:23] <KingKai> ok rebooting now
[12:24] <KingKai> and then try to see if i can access the drive contents?
[12:24] <M`vy> yes
[12:24] <M`vy> if it still does not automount... well, it will get compilcated :P
[12:25] <KingKai> just to confirm
[12:25] <KingKai> after it rebooted
[12:25] <KingKai> i was supposed to enter cd/media/MediaStorage
[12:25] <KingKai> and then ls
[12:25] <M`vy> yes
[12:25] <KingKai> and see the contents
[12:25] <M`vy> yes
[12:25] <KingKai> nothing.....
[12:25] <M`vy> damn
[12:26] <KingKai> i know...
[12:26] <M`vy> ok, new strategy
[12:26] <KingKai> lol
[12:26] <KingKai> ready
[12:26] <M`vy> sudo blkid
[12:26] <M`vy> should give you a list of devices
[12:27] <M`vy> one of each is your external drive
[12:27] <M`vy> and it shows something like : UUID="9fd5f4fe-90c2-44ab-8800-7656ec298683"
[12:28] <M`vy> you copy this thing
[12:28] <M`vy> and edit the fstab
[12:29] <M`vy> in there you replace the /dev/sda1 by the UUID thing without the "
[12:29] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/J3tJhGdN
[12:29] <M`vy> it's possible that the /dev/sda1 is not a valid device when the automount is done
[12:30] <M`vy> UUID=C6B04293B0428A3F /media/MediaStorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_us.utf8 0 0
[12:31] <M`vy> in the fstab
[12:31] <KingKai> so were talking about line 7
[12:31] <M`vy> yeah
[12:31] <M`vy> the only ntfs one :P
[12:34] <molgrum> ehm, i have a webserver on my Pi1... is it unwise to reveal it to planet?
[12:35] <KingKai> http://pastebin.com/Hya196di
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[12:35] <M`vy> seems good to me KingKai
[12:35] <M`vy> reboot time :)
[12:35] <KingKai> ok cool
[12:36] <lordievader> molgrum: Do you need to?
[12:36] <molgrum> lordievader: i was gonna post it on my blog
[12:36] <molgrum> but after some thought, i don't know if i should make it public
[12:37] <molgrum> uses nginx-light + php5
[12:37] <M`vy> are they up to date?
[12:37] <molgrum> yup
[12:37] <molgrum> jessie-date
[12:37] <KingKai> SUCCESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[12:37] <molgrum> except for raspberry.org
[12:38] <M`vy> then the risks shall be limited
[12:38] <KingKai> SUCCESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[12:38] <molgrum> okay
[12:38] <M`vy> hm raspberry.org?
[12:38] <M`vy> KingKai: good :P
[12:38] <KingKai> lol
[12:38] <KingKai> sorry
[12:38] <M`vy> XD
[12:38] <molgrum> M`vy: yeah, i only modified raspbian.org to jessie... was advised not to touch the other sources
[12:38] <M`vy> what user does nginx run as?
[12:38] <lordievader> molgrum: If there is no need to make it public, don't.
[12:39] <molgrum> lordievader: okay, i'll just post it to my 29 followers then :)
[12:40] <molgrum> M`vy: it's a secret :P
[12:41] <molgrum> oh you mean nginx?
[12:41] <M`vy> well the thing is: it should have its own user name
[12:41] <molgrum> proabably root
[12:41] <M`vy> not running as root to limit the damage should there be a vulnerability exploited
[12:41] <M`vy> or else, one would gain root access should such a case arise
[12:41] <molgrum> hrm okay, how can i switch the user?
[12:42] <molgrum> it's a daemon
[12:42] <M`vy> should be in the nginx config
[12:42] <molgrum> aha
[12:42] <molgrum> user is not root
[12:42] <M`vy> I'm sure google has a lot to say about this :)
[12:42] <M`vy> well that's good
[12:42] <molgrum> but still i should change it
[12:43] <molgrum> i have a user that handles the website
[12:43] <molgrum> with git
[12:43] <molgrum> maybe he can be the user
[12:43] <M`vy> could be
[12:44] <molgrum> the worst that could happen so far is rm -rf
[12:44] <molgrum> it's just PHP template engines
[12:45] <M`vy> Well depends if your pi can access your network :)
[12:45] <molgrum> hmm
[12:45] <molgrum> probably
[12:45] <M`vy> if you get root access and there is stored password, or rsa key or I don't knwo
[12:45] <M`vy> then the exploiter could access more than you anticipate :P
[12:46] <lordievader> Installing a keylogger is usually more valuable than deleting files.
[12:46] <molgrum> i never login as the webadmin
[12:46] <molgrum> i just push via him
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[12:48] <molgrum> and root is forbidden via ssh
[12:48] <molgrum> webadmin has no sudo rights
[12:54] <lordievader> But does nginx run as root?
[12:55] <molgrum> lordievader: the daemon does, not the worker processes
[12:55] <KingKai> so i have to go but ill talk to you later, i have one last issue i need help with and hopefully it will be finished
[12:55] <KingKai> thanks again for all your continued help!
[12:55] <lordievader> The deamon does? Hmm. Can't it run as some nginx or www-data user?
[12:56] <molgrum> lordievader: well i suspect daemons have to be run as root, but i dunno
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[12:56] <molgrum> i kan DDG a bit about it
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[13:00] <lordievader> Apache2 quickly forks as www-data.
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[13:01] <molgrum> lordievader: yeah i'm probably not gonna use www-data as user, even though i don't think it even has an account
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[13:01] <molgrum> or maybe it's ok?
[13:01] <lordievader> The way it is made in Ubuntu is without a shell and homedir set to /var/www
[13:02] <lordievader> System account, no password.
[13:03] <molgrum> system account?
[13:04] <molgrum> oh, there IS a user www-data
[13:04] <molgrum> doesn't have any privileges tho
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[13:07] <lordievader> Precisely ;)
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[13:24] <molgrum> any ETA on when i can upgrade to jessie in raspberrypi.org?
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[13:26] <shiftplusone> hmm
[13:26] <shiftplusone> 15 seconds, maybe...
[13:26] <molgrum> lol
[13:28] <shiftplusone> now
[13:29] <shiftplusone> add a 'ui' component if you want the ui and network changes (you probably don't)
[13:29] <molgrum> what? :)
[13:29] <molgrum> ui component where
[13:30] <shiftplusone> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ jessie main ui
[13:31] <molgrum> i removed X so no ui for me
[13:31] <molgrum> just TTY via my TV
[13:31] <molgrum> :D
[13:32] <shiftplusone> then it makes no difference
[13:32] <shiftplusone> are you using jessie for the raspbian.org repo already?
[13:32] <molgrum> shiftplusone: yes
[13:32] <shiftplusone> okay
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[14:01] <lordievader> Anything interesting in the Jessie repo?
[14:02] <shiftplusone> depends on what you're interested in
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[14:02] <lordievader> Hmm, yes. Guess so. Lets see what updates I get ;)
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[14:02] <shiftplusone> raspi-copies-and-fills is a good one
[14:03] <shiftplusone> a decent speed bump on the pi 2
[14:03] <shiftplusone> fbturbo driver which works as well
[14:04] <shiftplusone> aside from that, there's avrdude with linuxspi driver patched in (same available on wheezy now), Sense HAT stuff (rtimulib and astropi libraries), raspi-config with systemd support... and... that's about it I guess
[14:05] <shiftplusone> pygame zero, but that's mostly of interest to the python/education folk
[14:05] <shiftplusone> wiringpi has been added
[14:07] <shiftplusone> oh, sdl with some dispmanx patches and fixes, but that's in wheezy as well and will be replaced with a new set of patches soonish
[14:07] <shiftplusone> (1.2)
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[14:12] <lordievader> In short, lots of updates \o/
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[14:13] <shiftplusone> still a fair bit missing though
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[14:22] <CookieNapper> Hello
[14:23] <shiftplusone> hi
[14:23] <CookieNapper> Shift, are you familiar with the various browsers for Raspbian? and possibly other OSes for a B+ Pi?
[14:24] <CookieNapper> Just got mine yesterday; got so far as setting the thing up Raspbian via NOOBs
[14:24] <CookieNapper> downloaded Midori and LibreOffice >_>
[14:25] <shiftplusone> seems like a reasonable start
[14:25] <CookieNapper> just want to know which OS and Browser combination could possibly give me the best browsing experience?
[14:25] <shiftplusone> maybe take a look at kweb
[14:25] <shiftplusone> also known as minimal kiosk browser
[14:25] <CookieNapper> I plan to use it for looking up wiki pages with it on a second monitor
[14:25] <shiftplusone> note that 'best' isn't necessarily 'good' here.
[14:26] <CookieNapper> I ordered a KVM switch off Newegg for keyboard/mouse only...
[14:26] <shiftplusone> I use synergy instead
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[14:26] <CookieNapper> well, the defauly browser seems quite fast BUT it lacks the options like Midori to disable "automatic image loading, etc"
[14:27] <shiftplusone> yeah, epiphany wasn't a good option to base the hw acceleration work on, but it was the only option.
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[14:34] <CookieNapper> do you think sharing the same keyboard via a KVM swith that is compatible with both WIndows and Linux is viable?
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[14:36] <CookieNapper> yeah, I was looking at Synergy but it's $10; no trail version available
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[14:36] <CookieNapper> how is it from your experience?
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[14:37] <CookieNapper> Does anyone know how to disable the auto monitor sleep on Pi?
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[14:37] <lordievader> CookieNapper: Synergy is still opensource it is on github.
[14:37] <CookieNapper> Ok, thanks. Will check it out
[14:39] <CookieNapper> my main concern with Synergy is the CPU resource usage on an already slowish 1st gen Pi...
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[15:03] <CookieNapper> anyone have any experiencing using the Pi for video surveillance ? (i.e front door / porch ) stream via WAN to a Windows PC?
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[15:20] <pi_> Testing
[15:20] <shiftplusone> fail
[15:21] <pi_> Sweet... now I can IRC on Raspbian on Pi : )
[15:21] <pi_> no fails here, it was all calculated... fail >__> *shifty eyes*
[15:21] <shiftplusone> hurray
[15:22] <pi_> now if I can only figure out how to login via this termina IRC client...
[15:22] <shiftplusone> irssi?
[15:22] <pi_> #IRCCommandsConfusing
[15:22] <pi_> indeed- this is CookieNapper
[15:22] <pi_> also disable screen sleep - that was such a pain to deal with
[15:22] <shiftplusone> use the googles
[15:22] <pi_> installed xscreensaver - then disabled it
[15:23] <pi_> maybe I'm doing it wrong but it's difficult to find up to date information on certain Pi related info...
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[15:25] <pi_> Shift, do you know how to write a script to auto connect and log into IRC on Pi? :D
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[15:25] <shiftplusone> nope, I use hexchat, none of this command line nonsense.
[15:25] <pi_> O_o hexchat?
[15:25] <pi_> is that also a Terminal IRC client? or something else?
[15:26] <shiftplusone> nope, not terminal
[15:26] <pi_> ah cool
[15:27] <pi_> interesting, you can join multiple channels on it hmm...
[15:27] <pi_> I'll make a note to try it out later... first I need to figure out how to login from here...
[15:27] <shiftplusone> well, you can do that with any client
[15:27] <shiftplusone> /msg nickserv help
[15:28] <pi_> it's not working...
[15:28] <pi_> uhhh...
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[15:33] <pi_> shift, /msg nickserv commands aren't working... : (
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[15:33] <pi_> T_T
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[15:34] <pi_> I will... be back
[15:36] <TheDude_> Stupid question - new to the raspberry pi .. this has a repo like apt-get / yum etc? looks like apt-get works but is that the official repo you guys use?
[15:37] <shiftplusone> Hmm?
[15:37] <shiftplusone> There's the raspbian.org repo, which is the official raspbian repo
[15:37] <shiftplusone> and there's the raspberrypi.org repo, which is the stuff added by the raspberry pi foundation.
[15:37] <TheDude_> I mean the repo exists but you use apt as the method?
[15:37] <shiftplusone> O_o
[15:38] <shiftplusone> I am having trouble parsing the question
[15:38] <TheDude_> This is based on debian?
[15:38] <TheDude_> Yep ok I got it
[15:38] <shiftplusone> it's a derivative of debian, but it doesn't use debian's repos.
[15:39] <TheDude_> Wasn't sure if raspbian was based on a specific flavor or was its own verison of linux, but its forked from debian yeah
[15:39] <TheDude_> Right it uses its own repos I get it but the delivery method of syncing and installing packages is apt-get correct?
[15:39] <TheDude_> just trying to see how to get 7zip on this pi heh
[15:40] <shiftplusone> yup, that's an accurate description
[15:40] <shiftplusone> It's debian recompiled for the pi's hardware
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[15:41] <Blahblahblah> This client attach/detach via IRRSI is confusing
[15:41] <Blahblahblah> shift, have you done any surveillance work with the Pi?
[15:41] <TheDude_> you can you install rpms on a pi?
[15:42] <ppq> TheDude_, only if the binaries are compiled for the right arch
[15:42] <shiftplusone> TheDude_: don't
[15:42] <ppq> shiftplusone++
[15:42] <shiftplusone> Blahblahblah: surveillance work? O_o
[15:42] <ppq> so.. shiftplustwo
[15:43] <Blahblahblah> shift, i.e front door / porch camera on WLAN - streaming live feed to a Windows PC for example
[15:43] <shiftplusone> nope
[15:43] <TheDude_> K .. I know most rpms are going ot be bloated and most likely for an x86
[15:43] <Blahblahblah> anyone here have a Pi AND Pi 2? : )
[15:44] <TheDude_> I've just got a 2 .. and my co-worker has a 1 here
[15:44] <shiftplusone> Blahblahblah: why do you ask?
[15:44] <shiftplusone> I've got a variety of pis scattered all over the place
[15:44] <Blahblahblah> just wondering how much performance gap there is between Model B+ and 2 Model B
[15:44] <Blahblahblah> cause.... I just ordered a Pi 2 like 5 mins ago XD
[15:44] <shiftplusone> Blahblahblah: depends on the task
[15:44] <Blahblahblah> general web surfing - mostly text based stuff
[15:45] <shiftplusone> for parallelised things, about 6x
[15:45] <Blahblahblah> I noticed my B+ struggling with it - java script disabled of course - along with image auto load
[15:45] <shiftplusone> for NEON, I think it's x10
[15:45] <Blahblahblah> what's NEON?
[15:45] <Blahblahblah> <== Linxus Newb here
[15:45] <shiftplusone> "Neon is a SIMD (Single Instruction Multiple Data) accelerator processor integrated in as part of the ARM Cortex-A8"
[15:46] <shiftplusone> Something useful in video processing and such, so not really used by anything.
[15:46] <shiftplusone> but in general, if you use a pi2 for a while and then go back to a pi1, you'll feel like it's crawling
[15:47] <Blahblahblah> yeah, I know the new ARM processor is signifiantly faster - due to the updated architexture and better per clock cycle
[15:47] <Blahblahblah> yeah, I looked at a few video comparisons
[15:47] <shiftplusone> well, armv7 vs armv8 alone makes no difference at all
[15:47] <Blahblahblah> the Pi2 can load graphical webpages quite fast
[15:47] <Blahblahblah> it will be perfect with script/image disabled
[15:47] <Blahblahblah> should be very very snappy
[15:48] <shiftplusone> I can't quite describe browsing as snappy yet
[15:48] <Blahblahblah> even text based?
[15:48] <shiftplusone> unless you use something like links/elinks/lynx... whatever else there is
[15:48] <Blahblahblah> eh... I guess for a secondary prouctivity platform... android HDMI sticks are just too OP
[15:48] <Blahblahblah> espeically since you can get Microsoft Office from the google play store for free
[15:49] <shiftplusone> meh
[15:49] <Blahblahblah> plus, the maturity of the OS...
[15:49] <TheDude_> So how is the pie2 performance wise when it comes to decoding digital media like mp4's mkv's etc 1080p?
[15:49] <Blahblahblah> significantly better
[15:49] <shiftplusone> TheDude_: should be about the same, since that happens on the GPU
[15:49] <TheDude_> not planning on using it for that but I'm curious if you could use it for an entertainment box
[15:49] <Blahblahblah> it's a numbers game and the new processor is just... too good (compared to Pi 1)
[15:49] <shiftplusone> if you're using the CPU and NEON (for example, ffmpeg), then it should be x10.
[15:49] <TheDude_> like with something like xbmc etc
[15:50] <shiftplusone> xbmc will use the GPU
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[15:50] <Blahblahblah> should still be good for 720p video decoding right?
[15:50] <shiftplusone> so the UI elements may be faster, but video will be like it always was (realtime)
[15:50] <TheDude_> So pi1 vs pi2 the gpu wasn't upgrade only the processor?
[15:50] <Blahblahblah> it's not technically a "processor"
[15:50] <Blahblahblah> it's SoC - System on Chip
[15:50] <Blahblahblah> has everything in it...
[15:51] <shiftplusone> TheDude_: yes, it's the same SoC, with the arm11 ripped out and replaced + the changes required to make that work.
[15:51] <shiftplusone> and of course it's clocked higher
[15:53] <Blahblahblah> signicantly more operations per clock cycle <== important
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[15:53] <Blahblahblah> I'm getting increasingly more frustrated and intrigued by IRRSI...
[15:54] <Blahblahblah> it's not working now... the commands are not working... WHY ? D: I'm doing the same thing as last time...
[15:54] <shiftplusone> you don't really get more operations per clock cycle. There may be some theoretical improvements, but it means nothing to the everyday applications
[15:55] <shiftplusone> I've benchmarked everything I could and stock debian (compiled for armv8) and stock raspbian (compiled for armv7), with an identical suite of software performs exactly the same in every test case.
[15:56] <shiftplusone> the bottlenecks are really elsewhere
[15:56] <shiftplusone> (io)
[15:57] <Blahblahblah> idk... looking at benchmarks and live tests, the P2 is significantly faster
[15:57] <TheDude_> cool
[15:57] <Blahblahblah> I know it's application based but web browsing was quite smooth
[15:57] <shiftplusone> it definitely is
[15:57] <shiftplusone> but that's thanks to the quad cores and higher clock rate
[15:58] <Blahblahblah> shift, the Pi 2 should surf very smoothly via Midori with script/image disabled right?
[15:58] <shiftplusone> not because of the instruction set
[15:58] <shiftplusone> haven't tried... let me check
[15:58] <Blahblahblah> I'm going to be looking at a ton of game Wiki related content - text based
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[15:59] <Blahblahblah> alright, let me know how it works
[15:59] <shiftplusone> yeah, midori seems to be working quite well after disabling scripts and images
[15:59] <Blahblahblah> snappy? smooth?
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[16:00] <Blahblahblah> yeah, that's the one thing Midori has over Epiphany... the option to disable script/images made a night/day difference
[16:00] <shiftplusone> can't tell for sure, since I'm using X11 forwarding.
[16:00] <shiftplusone> sec
[16:01] <Blahblahblah> Shift, try this site
[16:01] <shiftplusone> wow... synergy eating up 50% RAM
[16:01] <Blahblahblah> http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas
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[16:01] <Blahblahblah> Yep... like I said earlier... my concern with Synergy is Ram/CPU resource usage
[16:02] <Blahblahblah> and you know... potential security concerns as well
[16:02] <shiftplusone> synergy client itself seems okay, it's the UI that was acting up
[16:02] <shiftplusone> probably because of something I've done
[16:02] <Blahblahblah> oh ok
[16:02] <Blahblahblah> I'm still more open to the idea of using a KVM switch just for the keyboard though
[16:03] <Blahblahblah> just wondering how well it would work
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[16:04] <pi_> Ok, I give up... irc commands don't seem to work for some reason. Can't login...
[16:05] <shiftplusone> okay, played around with midori and wikia fallout pages
[16:05] <pi_> how is it?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> Don't know if snappy is the right word, but certainly good enough
[16:05] <pi_> sweet
[16:05] <pi_> can you try having 3-5 tabs open?
[16:05] <pi_> I will link you the pages if you don't mind?
[16:06] <shiftplusone> go
[16:06] <Blahblahblah> http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_perks
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[16:06] <Blahblahblah> http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ammunition
[16:06] <Blahblahblah> http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jury_Rigging
[16:07] <Blahblahblah> actually, just those 3 are fine. They're relatively long pages
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[16:08] <shiftplusone> yeah, works okay
[16:08] <Blahblahblah> how's the scrolling though?
[16:08] <shiftplusone> though without images, a lot of information is missing
[16:08] <shiftplusone> good enough
[16:09] <shiftplusone> it's not smooth, fluid scrolling, but you don't have to look at checkerboxes or anything
[16:09] <Blahblahblah> ok perfect
[16:09] <Blahblahblah> will have to do until my android stick gets here
[16:10] <shiftplusone> tried a tale of two wastelands? I'm playing through fallout 3 with the fallout nv engine right now
[16:10] <shiftplusone> well, not RIGHT now, since I'm at work, but still.
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[16:11] <Blahblahblah> uhhh
[16:11] <Blahblahblah> sorry, was at the door... just got another package :3
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[16:11] <Blahblahblah> Consumer-ism Ho! (bonus points if you get the reference)
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[16:12] <shiftplusone> nope =(
[16:14] <Blahblahblah> :D
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[16:27] <Blahblahblah> sorry, got distracted tinkering with the Pi Case
[16:30] <molgrum> i set Storage to "persistent" but still, systemd-journald takes up 16% RAM
[16:30] <molgrum> is it caching stuff?
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[16:31] <Blahblahblah> shift, have you beaten fallout vegas?
[16:35] <Blahblahblah> *sigh*
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[16:59] <pi_> anyone here have any experiencing using pi for live video streaming via WAN from Pi Camera?
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[17:09] <TheDude_> <Blahblahblah> shift, have you beaten fallout vegas?
[17:10] <TheDude_> hehe I'm on my 2nd time through but through one of the main addons really sidetracked me
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[17:11] <pi_> I haven't played fallout 3; but from what I've read it should be much easier than Fallout Vegas
[17:12] <pi_> I'm finding Vegas very straight forward; that and you only get 1 perk every two levels VS EVERY level in fallout 3
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[17:16] <pi_> <TheDude> what's your build like btw?
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[22:11] <KingKai> Im back
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[22:14] <KingKai> can anyone help me with problems im having using samba to allow my computers to access the rasp pi as a nas?
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[22:21] <lordievader> KingKai: What seems to be the problem?
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[22:30] <Crucerio> hi, how to write my raspbian image (16GB sd card) to an iso file without the empty blocks
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[22:38] <KingKai> actually i figured that part out, but now im wondering how i can connect my smart tv to the pi now that its set up as a nas
[22:39] <KingKai> i successfully connected my laptop which is on wifi, and the sony bravia has wifi built in...so maybe its possible?
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[22:56] <lordievader> KingKai: Does your tv speak samba?
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[22:57] <lordievader> Crucerio: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17087/clone-whole-partition-or-hard-drive-to-a-sparse-file
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[23:34] <KingKai> yes
[23:35] <KingKai> ofcourse not but it has a tab for media server, and when i go to that tab it lists my laptop computer, the rounter as it has media server functionability i believe, and recently my iphone showed up after i installed a ssh app which i assume is why it now shows up all of sudden
[23:37] <KingKai> it was my understanding that samba enabled the pi to be accessed via network, but judging by your blunt inquiry about my tv speaking samba, i think its safe to assume that with my 2 days of tinkering with the rasp pi I was mistaken
[23:37] <KingKai> please do educate me
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