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[2:57] <ogcook> hey everyone
[2:57] <ogcook> i just got my pi today, are there any irc clients you would recommend for it?
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[3:34] <Aaronaurus> ogcook: Konversation
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[3:59] <ogcook> awesome thanks Aaronaurus I'll take a look at it
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[5:40] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[6:16] <UberSlackr> Anyone know if this would work with the Pi ?? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UL4Q7LQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A2IMFEEQD6M9IC
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[7:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[7:19] <infiniteNOP> UberSlackr: As long as it works with linux, it will most probably work with the pi
[7:19] <infiniteNOP> UberSlackr: Do some research
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[7:26] <rudy-studio> welcome
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[7:48] <CoochieNinja> ,
[7:48] <CoochieNinja> .
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[8:32] <molgrum> hey i need to add my usb drive to fstab, it was a long time ago since i used fstab but do you have any tips?
[8:33] <molgrum> like, adding "hda /media/hdd fat32 ????"
[8:34] <molgrum> fifth and sixth field, i am unsure
[8:34] <molgrum> also fourth
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[8:35] <lordievader> Use an UUID.
[8:35] <molgrum> lordievader: UUID?
[8:35] <molgrum> i'll DDG
[8:35] <lordievader> Universally Unique Identifier.
[8:36] <lordievader> molgrum: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/fstab.5.html
[8:37] <molgrum> lordievader: what's the benefit instead of just /dev/sda?
[8:37] <lordievader> Sda may change, UUID's do not.
[8:37] <molgrum> okay
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[8:40] <molgrum> lordievader: hrm, tried fatlabel but got nothing valuable
[8:40] <molgrum> "Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0."
[8:40] <lordievader> Fatlabel?
[8:40] <molgrum> i asuem i need to format?
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[8:44] <molgrum> lordievader: not sure what command to use, blkid?
[8:45] <molgrum> A01A72721A724576 -> ../../sda1
[8:45] <molgrum> got that from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
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[8:46] <lordievader> molgrum: 'A01A72721A724576' is the uuid there.
[8:46] <molgrum> yep
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[8:47] <molgrum> lordievader: jsut unsure how to edit fstab now... i'll pastebin somwething and can you check if it's correct please?
[8:48] <lordievader> Sure.
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[8:52] <molgrum> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/f65D0AAh
[8:52] <molgrum> looks okay?
[8:54] <molgrum> hm, can't mount with vfat
[8:55] <molgrum> [ 9075.182698] F2FS-fs (sda): Magic Mismatch, valid(0xf2f52010) - read(0x0)
[8:55] <molgrum> [ 9075.189587] F2FS-fs (sda): Can't find valid F2FS filesystem in 1th superblock
[8:55] <molgrum> [ 9075.197323] F2FS-fs (sda): Magic Mismatch, valid(0xf2f52010) - read(0x0)
[8:55] <molgrum> [ 9075.204192] F2FS-fs (sda): Can't find valid F2FS filesystem in 2th superblock
[8:55] <molgrum> sorry about flood
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[8:55] <molgrum> i guess i need to format this drive
[8:58] <lordievader> F2FS != FAT
[8:59] <lordievader> You haven't made a filesystem yet?
[8:59] <lordievader> Yes, do that first ;)
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[9:10] <molgrum> lordievader: i'll see what i can do
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[9:10] <molgrum> what devices are used by the Pi?
[9:10] <molgrum> so i don't format the wrong thing here
[9:11] <molgrum> ah, can probably find it in fstab
[9:12] <lordievader> molgrum: Check mount?
[9:13] <lordievader> Also see something like 'sudo parted /dev/sda print'
[9:13] <molgrum> it's /dev/mm*******
[9:13] <lordievader> mmc<stuff> is your sd card.
[9:14] <molgrum> Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
[9:14] <molgrum> 1 1049kB 1000GB 1000GB primary ntfs
[9:14] <molgrum> lol
[9:14] <molgrum> so it is ntfs
[9:15] <molgrum> success at mount
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[9:15] <molgrum> lordievader: so i'll just swap vfat to ntfs, how did the fstab entry look?
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[9:17] <lordievader> molgrum: You want it checked?
[9:18] <lordievader> If yes, fine, else I'd change the 2 to a 0.
[9:18] <molgrum> hmm
[9:18] <molgrum> says in the manual that devices other than root should be 2
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[9:19] <molgrum> "The root
[9:19] <molgrum> filesystem should be specified with a fs_passno of 1, and other
[9:19] <molgrum> filesystems should have a fs_passno of 2."
[9:19] <molgrum> hey ou're probably right lordievader, it would takew ages to fscheck that device i guess
[9:20] <molgrum> so i'll go with 0 then
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[9:22] <voidF0x> doesnt fs_passno influence the mounting order too?
[9:22] <voidF0x> thought that would be why ive read the sd card has to be 0
[9:23] <lordievader> 0 specifies that the fs doesn't need to be checked.
[9:23] <molgrum> yeah
[9:23] <molgrum> i don't want the Pi to check 1TB of data :D
[9:25] <voidF0x> ah ya.. turned that those fsck checks off too
[9:26] <voidF0x> running headless and paniced every time it took ~20mins to reboot -.-"
[9:28] <molgrum> oh i think i want a specific user to be the owner
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[9:28] <molgrum> is it enough to just chown the /media/hdd?
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[9:29] <lordievader> Yes, it is ntfs. It doesn't know unix file permissions.
[9:29] <molgrum> ah
[9:31] <molgrum> can i reload fstab and give this a try?
[9:31] <molgrum> or reboot is necessary?
[9:32] <lordievader> molgrum: sudo mount -a
[9:33] <molgrum> thx
[9:34] <molgrum> works :)
[9:35] <molgrum> thanks alot for the support lordievader, you rock
[9:35] <lordievader> No problem ;)
[9:35] <molgrum> oh one problem, it's owned by root now
[9:35] <molgrum> hmm
[9:35] <lordievader> Probably ;)
[9:36] <molgrum> need it to be owned by a user
[9:37] <molgrum> or just generally read/wroteable
[9:37] <molgrum> writeable*
[9:37] <molgrum> nvm, it already is
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[9:37] <molgrum> rwxrwxrwx
[9:37] <molgrum> :)
[9:39] <lordievader> That is ntfs for you ;)
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[9:39] <molgrum> yeah i guess so
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[15:14] <Slabdabs> Morning Pi fans
[15:15] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
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[15:46] <voidF0x> u are both right.. its afternoon.. but i just woke up..
[15:46] <voidF0x> either way.. hello there
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[16:21] <M`vy> well technically i think it's morning when the user joins the channel :)
[16:22] <M`vy> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#fst
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[16:27] <Slabdabs> So, in the building I work in, there's a guy that scraps out offices so he gets tons of old towers and monitors. Has 5-6 old dell monitors he was going toss he told me I could have
[16:28] <Slabdabs> Snagged one earlier, going to test it out on my break. Might be a good and free start into turning this RPi into an arcade unit. really hoping that the USB ports will be strong enough to power the rpi without anything else.
[16:31] <lordievader> M`vy: But what if you join and just stay?
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[16:36] <M`vy> well, the page says : "becomes active"
[16:36] <M`vy> so you might chose to say I went incative then active again I think
[16:36] <lordievader> Meh, wide interpretation I suppose.
[16:37] <M`vy> I suppose
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[17:43] <heller_> so what http server for raspberry pi?
[17:43] <heller_> im thinking of lighttpd but if i need php5 later, should i go with apache?
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[23:07] <UberSlackr> is there something special that needs to be done on the Pi to allow SSH access?
[23:07] <UberSlackr> I went through the raspi-config and enabled SSH.
[23:07] <UberSlackr> but when enter password it says access denied
[23:07] <UberSlackr> on SSH client
[23:15] <shiftplusone> UberSlackr: the foundation's image of raspbian has ssh enabled (pi:raspberry)
[23:15] <shiftplusone> nothing extra needs to be done
[23:15] <UberSlackr> shiftplusone: well I can't log in at all through putty
[23:15] <UberSlackr> I can log into on the raspi itself, using password.
[23:16] <UberSlackr> but putty says Access Denied with the pass
[23:16] <UberSlackr> and I can't access the auth.log it keeps saying permission denied
[23:16] * shiftplusone shrugs
[23:17] <UberSlackr> very bad experience with first ever raspberry
[23:17] <shiftplusone> ok
[23:17] <UberSlackr> are you here to help? or just make stupid comments?
[23:18] <shiftplusone> I've answered your initial question and was typing out the steps to help debug the issue.
[23:18] <UberSlackr> you typed "shrugs" thats not helpful
[23:19] <shiftplusone> sorry, your majesty.
[23:19] <KD7JWC> shiftplusone: do you use winderz or linux to make sdcard images?
[23:20] <shiftplusone> KD7JWC: linux. why?
[23:20] <KD7JWC> more specifically are you familiar with the dd command?
[23:20] <shiftplusone> yeah
[23:20] <UberSlackr> And my "initial question" was more a request for help, than an actual question... since I mention that I can't login via ssh due to access denied even though password entered is correct
[23:21] <KD7JWC> i keep getting bad .img files when i use dd to make a .img of a perfectly working sd card, would you share with my the command and augments you use please?
[23:21] <shiftplusone> KD7JWC: what's the /dev/ node for the card on your PC?
[23:21] <KD7JWC> /sdf
[23:22] <shiftplusone> sudo dd if=/dev/sdf of=backup.img bs=4M
[23:22] <KD7JWC> or on the laptop its /sdc
[23:22] <KD7JWC> hmm i havent ever used the bs=4M before is that the block size?
[23:22] <shiftplusone> Yeah, it's not too important, I've just found it's much faster than leaving the default
[23:23] <KD7JWC> well if it isnt important then me supplying sudo dd if=/dev/sdf of=name.img should work then? it fails every time
[23:24] <shiftplusone> fails in what way exactly?
[23:24] <KD7JWC> well it completes but wwhen i write it back to 3 different sd cards the hand part way through boot at the same spot
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[23:25] <KD7JWC> hangs*
[23:25] <shiftplusone> does the dd back complete successfully without error messages? and at which point does the boot hang?
[23:26] <shiftplusone> do you 'sync' after each dd ?
[23:26] <KD7JWC> yes the dd to the .img and tehn the dd to the card both complete succesfully but when i put the card in the pi2 it hangs about 5 seconds into the boot process and i believe its the same spot on each card i have tried
[23:26] <KD7JWC> sync umm no i dont know about that
[23:28] <ShorTie> sync makes sure the write is completed
[23:28] <shiftplusone> when dd completes, there's the chance that there is still unflushed buffered data. If you yank it straight out after dd, bad things could potentially happen.
[23:29] <shiftplusone> but that would be near the end of the card and I don't think that would contain data crucial to booting... you could just end up with weird errors later down the line.
[23:29] <KD7JWC> i ussualy wait abut 5 mins but please explain the sync operends i would use
[23:29] <shiftplusone> just 'sync'
[23:29] <KD7JWC> hmm simple enough
[23:29] <shiftplusone> it would be good to see where it actually hangs
[23:29] <KD7JWC> thank you
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[23:30] <shiftplusone> (I'm not convinced 'sync' will fix your problem, but it's still a good idea)
[23:30] <KD7JWC> last time it hung detecting a new usb device mk yada yada
[23:30] <shiftplusone> also make sure none of the partitions are mounted
[23:30] <KD7JWC> but nothing changed from the good running card to the out and back image process either
[23:31] <shiftplusone> I mean I would like to see the actual messages. Sometimes people look at the very last message, when there's something interesting a little further back.
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[23:31] <KD7JWC> Chicken1985#
[23:33] <KD7JWC> error i see is : mmc0: host does not support reading read-only switch, assuming write-enabled
[23:33] <KD7JWC> then it detects the card again and the error: usb 1-1: new high-speed USB devoce number 2 using dwc_otg
[23:35] <ShorTie> sorrta sounds like a power problem
[23:35] <shiftplusone> the first one isn't an error
[23:36] <shiftplusone> but yeah, a retelling of the messages is not quite the same. I'd shrugs, but some people find that offensive. =P
[23:36] <KD7JWC> i would not think power its a 2.6 amp supply and the original crd boots fine
[23:36] <shiftplusone> *shrug
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[23:37] <KD7JWC> it does say waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2
[23:38] <shiftplusone> ah, that's a useful message
[23:38] <shiftplusone> well, not entirely, since we don't know WHY it's not seeing it.
[23:39] <KD7JWC> then farther down its says detecting mmcblk0: mmc0:b358 sd 14.4 gib
[23:39] <KD7JWC> then mmcblk0: p1 p2
[23:39] <shiftplusone> okay, so it is indeed seeing it.
[23:39] <shiftplusone> very strange
[23:40] <shiftplusone> any network related messages?
[23:40] <KD7JWC> then the usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using dwc_otg and thats the last it does
[23:40] <shiftplusone> can you take a photo?
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[23:41] <KD7JWC> let me get a camera there are several things i say hum to, brb
[23:43] <KD7JWC> imgur ok?
[23:43] <shiftplusone> anything, as long as the text isn't too blurry to read
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[23:44] <KD7JWC> its sharp enough
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[23:46] <KD7JWC> shiftplusone: >http://imgur.com/4p5O9Se
[23:47] <shiftplusone> ah yes, just as I suspected... I have no idea. Haven't seen that before.
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[23:48] <shiftplusone> So it's waiting for the root device... sees it... and then sits there thinking "yup... waiting for that root device still"
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[23:48] <KD7JWC> thats kind what i was thinking and i am wondering if the session isnt closing
[23:48] <shiftplusone> session?
[23:48] <KD7JWC> before i remove card from imaging it
[23:49] <KD7JWC> the dd session
[23:49] <shiftplusone> not sure what you mean, but have you tried doing it all again with sync after each write and making sure no partitions are mounted?
[23:51] <KD7JWC> doing that now with the known good sd and will issue sync and tehn unmount it
[23:51] <shiftplusone> no no
[23:51] <shiftplusone> umount first, before dd
[23:51] <KD7JWC> oh hmm ok that might be my problem
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[23:52] <KD7JWC> i am a little new to doing it with sdcards in to an .img then back out, only ever used dd to make usb boot drives for my other systems
[23:52] <KD7JWC> trying now thanks for the tip
[23:53] <shiftplusone> You're reading/writing the raw 1s and 0s without inherent meaning, right under the operating systems nose. You don't want the OS thinking you've got a partition mounted right as you go scrambling all the data.
[23:53] <KD7JWC> i follow you, hey great ppoint thank you
[23:54] <shiftplusone> the likelyhood that that is the problem is low, it's just a 'bad practice' thing.
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