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[0:00] <Jckf> Right. Reading the FAQ might help :v
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[2:47] <sxmd> I'm having trouble making an sd card for a minimal install. I followed the website's instructions and copied the net installer files to the FAT32 partition on my sd card and my Pi won't boot it.
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[8:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[8:15] <Aaronaurus> Good Morning
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[9:58] <CommanderKronos> Hello!
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[9:59] <CommanderKronos> Somebody here?
[9:59] <shiftplusone> nope
[10:00] <CommanderKronos> ow well that explains that
[10:01] <lordievader> No one here.
[10:01] <PointerToNull> I'm not here
[10:01] <shiftplusone> CommanderKronos: but if you ask a question, someone (who is not here, of course) might answer.
[10:01] <CommanderKronos> Aah. Bummer
[10:02] <PointerToNull> Asking if somebody is here is like ask to ask
[10:02] <CommanderKronos> Well. I am kind of bored and I want to write a python program. The point is. I have no idea what i should make. Some ideas? (please keep it simple, I'm not an expert)
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[10:04] <PointerToNull> start from a youtube downloader, it will involve a lot of modules, from network to file system
[10:04] <PointerToNull> of course there are a lot of them out there but still a good exercise
[10:04] <CommanderKronos> ok thats what i mean with. I'm no expert. I have no idea how to do that.
[10:05] <PointerToNull> Ok do an hello world, and reed a book
[10:05] <PointerToNull> create functiom, clesses
[10:05] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Have you done the codecademy class?
[10:05] <CommanderKronos> ya. thats where i started with programming.
[10:06] <lordievader> Right, I remember that phase ;)
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[10:06] <CommanderKronos> it was a door to a new era for me :D
[10:07] <lordievader> Try to find something on your system that bugs you or that you think you can do easier (i.e. automate things)
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[10:07] <CommanderKronos> eehm
[10:09] <CommanderKronos> Well there isn't something that bugs me that much.
[10:09] <lordievader> I think my first program after the codecademy course was a todo application.
[10:10] <CommanderKronos> ow i know something.
[10:11] <CommanderKronos> how do I make a variable that i can save?, And then after i restart the program. the variable will know what i assigned him to.
[10:11] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: You need to write it to disk. Do you know pickle?
[10:12] <CommanderKronos> nope. never heard of
[10:12] <shiftplusone> CommanderKronos: card games are good for learning. Or classic games likes snake, which are harder than they seem if you want to do it right.
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[10:13] <CommanderKronos> That's true but i have no skill in graphical programming in python
[10:13] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: https://docs.python.org/3/library/pickle.html
[10:13] <shiftplusone> card games can be done in text
[10:14] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Also good resources: https://docs.python.org/3/library/index.html and https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html
[10:14] <shiftplusone> but you can use pygame or pygame zero... they're very straightforward
[10:14] <CommanderKronos> tnx man. brb everyone i'm going to go read those sites for a bit.
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[10:15] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Have fun ;)
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[10:15] <CommanderKronos> lordievader: TNx
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[10:42] <CommanderKronos> Hey. i'm back. i now know how to pickle and my idea is to make a system for me that i can use for school. The program will go like this: It will ask me if i have eny homework. then if i say Y it will ask what. then it will store it in a variable called homework which will be pickled if i say shutdown&save. Tadaa
[10:42] <CommanderKronos> btw one more question
[10:43] <CommanderKronos> Can i use elif multiple times in one if-then-else statement?
[10:43] <shiftplusone> yes
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[10:44] <CommanderKronos> ok tnx man. I'm going to get to programming! bye!
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[10:44] <shiftplusone> but in cases where you need to do that, you may want to use a switch type of thing. Python doesn't have switch, and requires you to use a silly dictionary with functions instead, but it works.
[10:45] <shiftplusone> probably jumping a little ahead though, so never mind.
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[11:25] <CommanderKronos> Hello everybody. Can somebody help me?
[11:25] <scoofy> help with what
[11:26] <CommanderKronos> i got a problem with my program. i am trying to make a homework program. with pickle functions but its not working
[11:26] <scoofy> what is the question
[11:26] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Not working, how?
[11:27] <CommanderKronos> i used the pickle.dump(blabla, blabla) function but its not working
[11:27] <CommanderKronos> it gives this error
[11:27] <CommanderKronos> just a sec
[11:27] <CommanderKronos> Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python27\Huiswerk.py", line 19, in <module> pickle() File "C:\Python27\Huiswerk.py", line 7, in pickle pickle.dump(outFile, homework) AttributeError: 'function' object has no attribute 'dump'
[11:27] <lordievader> Before you paste it here, pastebin!
[11:27] <CommanderKronos> ow woops
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[11:27] <CommanderKronos> whats pastebin?
[11:28] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: http://paste.kde.org
[11:28] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: It might be that Py2 pickle is slightly different, I gave you the Py3 pickle documentation.
[11:29] <CommanderKronos> ooow. tnx. i will put it in py3 then
[11:32] <CommanderKronos> still doesnt work.
[11:32] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Could you pastebin your code?
[11:33] <CommanderKronos> i did
[11:33] <CommanderKronos> how do i give you the url?
[11:33] <lordievader> Just copy it and paste it here.
[11:34] <CommanderKronos> ow yea. duh!
[11:34] <CommanderKronos> https://paste.kde.org/pi5m0xaif
[11:34] <CommanderKronos> brain fart
[11:34] <lordievader> Nice homework...
[11:35] <CommanderKronos> i know. XD. it was a suggestion from a friend. not my idea
[11:35] <CommanderKronos> wait what?
[11:35] <CommanderKronos> you understand that?
[11:36] <lordievader> Ah, you are overwriting your pickle module.
[11:36] <CommanderKronos> and how do i fix that?
[11:37] <lordievader> Don't name your function 'pickle', also take a look at the 'with' statements. And read the pickle documentation again. you are using dump wrong.
[11:37] <lordievader> Ah wait nevermind.
[11:38] <lordievader> I'm reading things wrong. Usage of dump is correct, but still, use it with 'with' ;)
[11:38] <CommanderKronos> could you tell me where to use with 'with'? What line?
[11:39] <lordievader> For your 'open' statements.
[11:40] <CommanderKronos> so i need to replace the word 'open' with 'with'?
[11:40] <lordievader> No. read up on how you should use 'with' ;)
[11:41] <CommanderKronos> ok i will. tnx man
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[11:55] <CommanderKronos> Lordievader:
[11:55] <CommanderKronos> ?
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[17:18] <CommanderKronos> Hello! can somebody help me?
[17:19] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: Open ended questions are rarely answered.
[17:20] <CommanderKronos> well sorry mr know it all (JK XD)
[17:20] <CommanderKronos> i'm having trouble with that homework program again
[17:22] <CommanderKronos> i got one function who asks the user what homework the user has and then another function to show the user the homework.
[17:22] <CommanderKronos> but when i put the homework in a variabe it give an error when i use the same variable in the other function
[17:23] <CommanderKronos> can you help me with that?
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[17:33] <CommanderKronos> Is there somebody who can help me with my program? i got one function that ask the user a str input and then stores it into a variable. then i have another function read that variable and print it out. but it just gives an error.
[17:34] <Slabdabs> I'm sure osmeone can help you, just need to be patient
[17:34] <Slabdabs> this channel isn't always the most active
[17:35] <Slabdabs> I would try and help but I don't know jack about programming, just use my RPi2 for playing Gameboy Color right now haha
[17:35] <CommanderKronos> i understand that and i respect that. but i'm just asking
[17:35] <CommanderKronos> wow! thats cool
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[17:45] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: What error are you getting?
[17:47] <CommanderKronos> well. i dont need that. i started again. and i'm going to make something simpler. but do you know how i can add new objects to a list? i made a list (homework) and the program will pickle it but i also want to be able to add more stuff to homework whilst not erasing the first one
[17:48] <lordievader> homework.append(), read the documentation ;)
[17:48] <lordievader> The Python documentation is quite lovely.
[17:49] <CommanderKronos> i cant find it on the web. i only found deleting, updating and "calling" certain bits of the list
[17:49] <CommanderKronos> ow yea good one. i'm going to search there a bit
[17:51] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#sequence-types-list-tuple-range
[17:53] <CommanderKronos> okey i found it. tnx
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[18:11] <CommanderKronos> Lordievader are you still there?
[18:12] <CommanderKronos> i got another question
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[18:12] <CommanderKronos> so i made a input question and then i want to append that awnser to an existion variable
[18:13] <CommanderKronos> but it gives the error 'str' object has no attribute 'attend'
[18:13] <CommanderKronos> so i guess i need to turn the variable into a str. but how do i do that?
[18:13] <lordievader> Sure
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[18:15] <lordievader> That is not what the error says. Your variable is a string. You are treating it as if it is a list (I think you are trying to call 'append') that is wrong.
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[18:15] <CommanderKronos> ow. so how do i make it a list then?
[18:17] <lordievader> You dont, unless you want a character array or something. You likely first want to create a list and then append your string variable to that.
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[18:17] <CommanderKronos> oow. ok tnx
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[18:37] <CommanderKronos> lordievader? i now get the error 'list' object has no attributes 'attend'. so do i even need to use a list for the attend function or do i need to do something else?
[18:39] <CommanderKronos> or is the problem in the object?
[18:40] <CommanderKronos> because i made a variable get an input from the user which was then called in the attend function as an object
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[18:52] <CommanderKronos> Lordievader??
[18:52] <lordievader> ?
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[18:53] <CommanderKronos> i am gettin an error with a piece of code of mine.
[18:54] <CommanderKronos> i made a variable get an input from the user which was then called in the attend function as an object
[18:54] <lordievader> Attend function?
[18:55] <CommanderKronos> but it gave the error: 'list' object has no attribute 'attend'
[18:55] <lordievader> Read what I wrote before.
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[18:56] <CommanderKronos> this is the line it referred to: homeworkgottnes.attend(homework_today) homeworkgottens is the list & homework_today is the object (the variable)
[18:56] <CommanderKronos> gottens*
[18:57] <CommanderKronos> and then it gives that error
[18:57] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: 20:15 < lordievader> That is not what the error says. Your variable is a string. You are treating it as if it is a list (I think you are trying to call 'append') that is wrong.
[18:57] <lordievader> Pay special attention to the bit between () ;)
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[18:58] <CommanderKronos> but how else could i add a user input to a list?
[18:59] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: 'attend' != 'append'
[19:00] <CommanderKronos> OOOW. WOWO! am i really that dumb
[19:00] <CommanderKronos> MASSIVE BRAIN FART
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[19:02] <CommanderKronos> I DID IT!! THE FIRST PART OF MY CODE IS COMPLETE!!
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[19:22] <Slabdabs> congrats CommanderKronos!
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[19:31] <CommanderKronos> Tnx slabdabs
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[19:32] <CommanderKronos> quick update. i'm almost done with the whole program. just tyidng it up a bit and then i will confert it into an exe app
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[20:17] <CommanderKronos> i have a problem
[20:17] <CommanderKronos> if i append something to my list
[20:18] <CommanderKronos> and then append another thing. it overwrites the first one.
[20:18] <CommanderKronos> does somebody know how to fix that?
[20:22] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: It doesn't. Could you show me your code?
[20:22] <CommanderKronos> here or on pastebin?
[20:23] <lordievader> Pastebin ofcourse.
[20:24] <CommanderKronos> wait i'm on my tablet now. i'm going to switch to my computer. brb
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[20:25] <CommanderKronos> okay i'm back
[20:29] <CommanderKronos> https://paste.kde.org/pmifk1rmt
[20:29] <lordievader> So, at what lines is your bug?
[20:31] <CommanderKronos> i dont really know. i guess the section where i use the append thing in the general_function function
[20:32] <lordievader> First line of the general_function you create a new list.
[20:32] <CommanderKronos> yep
[20:33] <lordievader> So any time you call that function homeworkgotten is a list with len 1.
[20:33] <CommanderKronos> yep
[20:34] <lordievader> CommanderKronos: This should give you enough to understand why it "overwrites the first one".
[20:36] <CommanderKronos> for normal people it would. but for me... it doesnt. that code does acually save ONE extra string i tell him to attend. only one. if i say that it needs to attend Test. then it will do that. if i save and then restart the program it will have loaded in Test. but if i want to attend Test two. then it erases the first Test and replaces it with Test two.
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[20:39] <CommanderKronos> are you still there or did you die of boredom explaining something to me? (XD of course you died nobody survives my stupidity)
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