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IRC Log for 2015-07-30

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[1:35] <Ungenious> Hmm I just changed the memory split of a Raspberry Pi 2, increasing the GPU memory from 64M to 128M and I'm getting wonky behavior... anyone else have this issue?
[1:35] <Ungenious> i.e. the Pi seems randomly unresponsive, though its CPU & memory usage all read low
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[6:58] <q_bert> hey, what's up with setting the default keyboard layout to that of a tiny island in the north atlantic, so that it takes weird keystrokes like shift+7 to make a forward slash
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[7:35] <totalconfusion_> type "raspi-config" in terminal
[7:35] <totalconfusion_> go to the bottom, click advanced options
[7:35] <totalconfusion_> q_bert
[7:36] <totalconfusion_> change your locale or keyboard layout or something, i forget
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[7:36] <totalconfusion_> pretty sure it needs a reboot to take effect
[7:40] <q_bert> thx totalconfusion_
[7:40] <q_bert> still a weird default ..
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[9:55] <humbag> setxkbmap ar
[9:55] <humbag> :p
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[12:10] <marsje> Hi. I would like to run my own python script as a service. I know how to do it in ubuntu with upstart, but not sure how to do it in Raspbian. I see there's a /etc/init/ with .conf files that look very upstarty, but upstart does not seem to be installed...
[12:10] <shiftplusone> marsje: lsb init scripts
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[12:11] <shiftplusone> (.. is what you want to use instead)
[12:11] <marsje> shiftplusone: is that yet another flavour of starting thing up in linux?
[12:12] <shiftplusone> It's THE flavour, before systemd units becomes the flavour.
[12:12] <shiftplusone> *become
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[12:14] <marsje> it's the old init.d system
[12:15] <marsje> + some comments in the script to declare the dependencies?
[12:16] <shiftplusone> it's used by sysvinit, which was used by debian until jessie. Pretty much everything supports them (including systemd in jessie), but they're not ideal where quick boot times are concerned.
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[12:19] <marsje> will raspbian also move to systemd?
[12:19] <shiftplusone> yeah
[12:19] <shiftplusone> already has, it's just the a jessie image hasn't been released yet
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[12:44] <marsje> shiftplusone: but my lsb init.d script will also run with systemd?
[12:45] <shiftplusone> yes
[12:46] <shiftplusone> (when you want to convert it to a proper systemd unit, it will just be a matter of adding a file with a few lines)
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[12:47] <Asharas> Hello people!
[12:48] <shiftplusone> hello person
[12:48] <Asharas> which wifi adapter should I choose for my Pi? I already tried with realtek dongles and seems like RTL chipsets don't work correctly
[12:49] <Asharas> I'm wondering which one to choose
[12:50] <shiftplusone> shameless plug: http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/frontpage/products/official-raspberry-pi-wifi-dongle
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[12:52] <Asharas> Thank you, I'll buy one and see. Don't buy RTL chipsets... it's a pein in the ass
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[12:56] <TheLostAdmin> Have you got a shameless plug for a smallish display that uses the DSI connector, shiftplusone?
[12:57] <shiftplusone> Asharas: note that that one only works with linux, not windows (if you ever want to use it that way), but it has some nifty redeeming features.
[12:57] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: unfortunately not.
[12:58] <Asharas> nifty? what does mean nifty? ^^
[12:59] <shiftplusone> it can run normally and be an access point at the same time, for example.
[12:59] <Asharas> awesome!
[13:01] <Asharas> what's the average normal shipping time on the swagstore?
[13:02] <shiftplusone> Don't know. Haven't bought directly from there. But it's handled by pimoroni and whenever I've purchased from pimoroni is I've received things the next day or the day after.
[13:02] <shiftplusone> Depends on where you are of course
[13:03] <shiftplusone> Looks like you're in France so.... it won't be the next day >_<
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[14:30] <niston> lol I dident know this channel existeth
[14:33] <niston> will there be a newer mono package?
[14:33] <niston> repo still has 3.2.8
[14:35] <shiftplusone> niston: again, it's a question for debian people. Raspbian is re-compiled debian.
[14:35] <shiftplusone> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ibmono-2.0-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
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[14:48] <olegb> hm, my raspbian is still wheezy - is jessie ready for an upgrade ?
[14:49] <shiftplusone> raspbian itself is, the foundation's repo that gets added on top, isn't
[14:49] <shiftplusone> but if you want to, https://vk5tu.livejournal.com/54182.html
[14:49] <olegb> shiftplusone: thanks
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[16:07] <Harmageddon> diederik: Hi! I followed your guide to prepare the kernel on Raspbian for module compilation. However, I still fail to install acx as a module. The dkms method described at https://wiki.debian.org/acx gives me an "Exec format error" at modprobe. The alternative method at http://sourceforge.net/p/acx100/acx-mac80211/ci/master/tree/INSTALL returns "Invalid module format" at insmod. I also noticed that when running make install in the acx
[16:07] <Harmageddon> folder from git, it displays "DEPMOD 4.0.9+", although I completed your guide and seem to be running on 3.18.0-trunk-rpi.
[16:10] <diederik> "Invalid module format" means a mismatch between the (running) kernel and the kernel module
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[16:13] <diederik> when you want to compile a kernel module for 3.18.0-trunk-rpi (=raspbian.org kernel), then you need to install the kernel-headers package as I showed yesterday, then cd-ing into the source code directory and running 'make' should be enough
[16:13] <diederik> the debian/raspbian kernel-headers package automatically sets everything up
[16:15] <diederik> Harmageddon: what does 'uname -r' say?
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[16:15] <Harmageddon> I installed linux-image-rpi-rpfv and linux-headers-rpi-rpfv, as you told me.
[16:15] <Harmageddon> 3.18.0-trunk-rpi
[16:16] <diederik> ok, that's good. When 'uname -r' says 3.18.0-trunk-rpi that means that you're also running that kernel. And make install should then say 3.18.0-trunk-rpi
[16:18] <Harmageddon> make install uses 3.18.0-trunk-rpi for compiling, but displays 4.0.9 for depmod (don't know though, what depmod has to do in there).
[16:18] <diederik> Did you install the firmware?
[16:19] <Harmageddon> yes
[16:19] <diederik> I'm compiling the module myself atm ...
[16:24] <diederik> I'm getting 'DEPMOD 3.18.0-trunk-rpi2' (on a Pi 2)
[16:24] <Harmageddon> Maybe this is some interference with the previously installed kernel. I updated to 4.0.9 yesterday via rpi-update.
[16:25] <diederik> I have various kernels installed on my Pi2, so it shouldn't be a problem
[16:25] <diederik> There may be an issue with the 'make install' though ...
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[16:30] <diederik> http://paste.debian.net/287593/
[16:31] <diederik> There is sth wrong with the 'make install' I think, but you could try 'insmod acx-mac80211.ko'
[16:32] <Harmageddon> With insmod, I get the "Invalid module format".
[16:32] <diederik> Thus: 'git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/acx100/acx-mac80211 acx100-acx-mac80211'
[16:32] <diederik> 'cd acx100-acx-mac80211'
[16:32] <diederik> 'make'
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[16:37] <diederik> 'sudo install -p -m 644 acx-mac80211.ko /lib/modules/3.18.0-trunk-rpi2/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/'
[16:37] <diederik> 'sudo /sbin/depmod -a $(uname -r)'
[16:37] <diederik> 'sudo modprobe acx-mac80211'
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[16:38] <diederik> ^^ Did that, and the kernel module is loaded on my system (lsmod)
[16:40] <Harmageddon> Still the exec format error.
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[16:41] <Harmageddon> Well, maybe I'll just make a fresh, clean installation. I have probably at least three half baked tries laying around in the file system.
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[16:42] <diederik> is the dongle inserted in your system?
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[16:43] <diederik> afaict that should be the only difference between your tries and mine
[16:44] <Harmageddon> Yes, it is
[16:44] <diederik> can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'?
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[16:45] <Harmageddon> http://pastebin.com/yEAhTkNM
[16:46] <diederik> ok, remove the usb dongle from the system
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[16:46] <diederik> it could be that your system reboots in that case though ...
[16:46] <Harmageddon> I removed it before pasting the lsmod output. Didn't reboot this time.
[16:47] <diederik> ok, now do 'sudo modprobe acx-mac80211'
[16:49] <diederik> does it work now?
[16:49] <diederik> (the modprobe command)
[16:52] <Harmageddon> nope
[16:54] <diederik> may it's indeed better if you start with a clean installation then
[16:55] <Harmageddon> Yep. I haven't done much with the Pi yet, so it won't hurt much. :D
[16:55] <Harmageddon> Thank you for your help!
[16:58] <diederik> Here are the instructions all together: http://paste.debian.net/287607/
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[16:59] <Harmageddon> Bookmarked, thanks!
[16:59] <diederik> try it first with the linux-image-rpi-rpfv and linux-headers-rpi-rpfv packages (and boot into that with a modified /boot/config.txt).
[16:59] <diederik> If you can pastebin all the commands and output, I can maybe see if/where things go wrong
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[17:03] <Harmageddon> Don't think that I have enough time to do this now, but I will do so in the next time and return when I get into troubles.
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[17:05] <diederik> ok
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[17:12] <Airwave> I upgraded Raspbian from Wheezy to Jessie, but it's still running the old kernel (3.12-1-rpi). I can't figure out how to switch to the new one. Any ideas?
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[17:23] <diederik> Airwave: do you have the linux-image-rpi-rpfv package installed?
[17:24] <Airwave> diederik: Yes.
[17:25] <Airwave> diederik: linux-image-rpi-rpfv:
[17:25] <Airwave> Installed: 3.18+63+rpi4
[17:26] <diederik> can you pastebin the output of 'aptitude search ~ilinux-image' ?
[17:27] <Airwave> diederik: Sure, just a sec.
[17:27] <diederik> (your version looks 'weird' to me)
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[17:30] <diederik> 'ls -l /boot/' would be good too
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[17:33] <Airwave> diederik: /boot: https://paste.debian.net/287616/
[17:34] <Airwave> diederik: aptitude: http://paste.debian.net/287617/
[17:34] <Airwave> Sorry, I'll be back in a bit.
[17:35] <diederik> Airwave: change /boot/config.txt to https://paste.debian.net/287618/ (except line 1)
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[17:57] <Airwave> diederik: Thanks. Will test, just a minute.
[17:57] <Airwave> I'm doing this remotely, so I hope it won't fail to boot. ;-)
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[18:00] <diederik> I'm doing everything through ssh myself (too)
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[18:03] <Airwave> diederik: $ uname -r
[18:03] <Airwave> 3.18.0-trunk-rpi
[18:03] <Airwave> diederik: Very nice. Thanks!
[18:04] <Airwave> Out of curiosity, why did it choose the old kernel when config.txt had no kernel specified?
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[19:31] <diederik> Airwave: Looking back at your listing of /boot/ I see you were using a _very_ old kernel, not even the 'latest' 3.12-1-rpi. When there is no kernel specified, it defaults to kernel.img for RPi 1 (and kernel7.img for RPi 2). So you were using one from Aug 12 2014 all the time
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[19:35] <beMoD> hi everyone
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[19:36] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
[19:37] <Airwave> diederik: Ah, that's interesting.
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[19:50] <beMoD> i recently installed raspbian using netinstall_ua and then wanted to install libraspberrypi-bin to get vcgencmd, but apt would no let me, because of unmet dependencies. going along the dependency chain the problem was on my system raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel was installed and raspberrypi-bootloader was needed
[19:50] <beMoD> will there be any problem if i replace raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel with raspberrypi-bootloader?
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[20:21] <parityDrive> anyone know if there is a security camera kit?
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[21:12] <at0m> parityDrive: apt show motion
[21:12] <at0m> cam to your liking eh
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