#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-08-03

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[2:04] <cocao> i have some problem to use gpio pin with php anybody can help me
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[3:03] <DK-HaZe> why is it ufw doesnt work for me, I have added my ip and port to rules but my port that I have not added to the firewall still is connectable, is this normal ?
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[3:04] <DK-HaZe> "sudo ufw status" shows "Status Active" with the one rule I have added
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[7:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[7:53] <shiftplusone> morning
[7:53] <lordievader> Hey shiftplusone
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[8:56] <Nardin> hi guys... how would you suggest to overclock my pi? without any additional cooling stuff
[8:57] <shiftplusone> same way you do it with any other hardware. trial and error
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[9:04] <ShorTie> raspi-config
[9:05] <Chocolate_Chip> Is it dangerous to have the Pi always-on with an overvolt
[9:05] <Chocolate_Chip> Can that break my device?
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[9:08] <ShorTie> most likely not because the pi has thermal limiting (80C) and shutdown (85C)
[9:09] <shiftplusone> Chocolate_Chip: this is the warranty void condition: (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0
[9:09] <shiftplusone> so it was deemed that over volting is safe as long as you don't do anything else
[9:10] <shiftplusone> (in that list)
[9:10] <shiftplusone> the effect it will have on the lifetime of your device is another matter though
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[9:20] <Chocolate_Chip> Hmm
[9:20] <Chocolate_Chip> I don't have a heatsink. Should I risk it?
[9:21] <shiftplusone> It's not a matter of heat
[9:21] <shiftplusone> it's a matter of what your silicon is capable of
[9:22] <Chocolate_Chip> Uh...
[9:22] <Chocolate_Chip> It's the Raspberry Pi 2
[9:22] <shiftplusone> if the temperature happens to be higher than it should be, it will throttle
[9:22] <ShorTie> can't really put a heat sink on the cpu, it's under the ram, that is why they are of not much use
[9:22] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: on a pi 2, you can.
[9:22] <shiftplusone> the RAM is on the bottom of the board on a pi 2
[9:23] <ShorTie> oh
[9:24] <shiftplusone> Chocolate_Chip: you'll be fine. If you're concerned, you can see how close to the thermal limit you're getting by running vcgencmd measure_temp
[9:24] <Chocolate_Chip> k
[9:25] <Chocolate_Chip> What is the setting that doesn't void the warrenty?
[9:26] <Chocolate_Chip> Should I pick the Pi2 setting over the Turbo
[9:26] <Chocolate_Chip> What would you reccomend?
[9:27] <shiftplusone> The settings in raspi-config don't void the warranty
[9:27] <Chocolate_Chip> Oh
[9:27] <Chocolate_Chip> Ok.
[9:27] <ShorTie> if it is a rpi2, there is only 1 overclock setting for it in raspi-config
[9:27] <Chocolate_Chip> But a 2 oervolt is still better than a 6 overvolt, right?
[9:27] <Chocolate_Chip> ShorTie, I have 6 or so
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ None 700MHz ARM, 250MHz core, 400MHz SDRAM, 0 overvolt │
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ Modest 800MHz ARM, 250MHz core, 400MHz SDRAM, 0 overvolt │
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ Medium 900MHz ARM, 250MHz core, 450MHz SDRAM, 2 overvolt │
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ High 950MHz ARM, 250MHz core, 450MHz SDRAM, 6 overvolt │
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ Turbo 1000MHz ARM, 500MHz core, 600MHz SDRAM, 6 overvolt│
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> │ Pi2 1000MHz ARM, 500MHz core, 500MHz SDRAM, 2 overvolt│
[9:28] <ShorTie> ya, and 5 of those are for the rpi and the rpi2 will not boot if picked
[9:28] <Chocolate_Chip> Oh
[9:29] <Chocolate_Chip> I just changed it to Pi2, so I'm ok, right?
[9:32] <ShorTie> well, 4 i guess really, the none resets it back and will let the rpi2 boot again
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[9:32] <Chocolate_Chip> I had it set to modest before
[9:34] <Chocolate_Chip> Dman it. Now it's not responding to SSH
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> Chocolate_Chip: hold shift while booting to boot without overclocking enabled.
[10:00] <shiftplusone> (and keep holding it until it's fully booted)
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[10:26] <rZr> hi
[10:26] <Darcidride_> Hi, ca nyou help me please ? I can see many desktops environment in the ~/xsessions folder, how can i change my graphical interface with an another ?
[10:26] <rZr> Isnt gstreamer-omx built for jessie ?
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[10:27] <Darcidride_> (i thin it's jsut a command line with maybe "xset" but i didn't find it :/)
[10:27] <Darcidride_> think*
[10:27] <rZr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1266548
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[11:05] <Nardin> Darcidride, sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
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[11:12] <Nardin> Chocolate_Chip, shiftplusone so you don't suggest to overclock the device at all?
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[11:30] <shiftplusone> Nardin: hm? I don't recall saying that.
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[11:55] <Fyr> guys, I see 781 Mb available from 3.0 Gb on a 32 Gb card. where is the other space?
[11:56] <Fyr> Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
[11:56] <ansgar> Fyr: The partition probably needs to be enlarged.
[11:56] <Fyr> how to do that?
[11:56] <ansgar> Fyr: I think the thing that starts on boot (raspi-config?) has an option to do so.
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[11:57] <Fyr> ansgar, look at my fdisk:
[11:57] <Fyr> http://pastebin.com/ApiXcJig
[11:57] <Fyr> is it good or bad?
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[11:58] <Merko> Let's say I have a USB Stick with some HTML (Webfiles) on. How would I see them from the internet browser on the PI? What is the usual address? Not experienced with pi\linux at all :P
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[12:01] <Fyr> fixed everything
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[12:49] <Fyr> guys, what requires to connect a SATA drive to Banana Pi?
[12:49] <Fyr> should I install some modules first?
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[12:58] <shiftplusone> I don't know if raspbian actually tries to support banana pi or is the banana pi have just taped it on with duct tape.
[12:59] <shiftplusone> Raspbian users probably don't care about supporting bpi and the raspbian maintainer isn't around, so it's best to ask the bpi community
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[15:41] <plentybinary> hey if i see a pi on a site and it is simply listed as raspberry pi 2 is that the same as the pi 2 B?
[15:42] <shiftplusone> plentybinary: yeah
[15:43] <plentybinary> shiftplusone: thnx just wanted to make sure i didnt buy the wrong thing
[15:43] <shiftplusone> no worries
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[17:03] <plentybinary> anyone here used canakit b4?
[17:04] <Slabdabs> i got the canakit for my rpi2
[17:05] <plentybinary> Slabdabs: Do you know if i can find just the pi2 on there without the $20 PSU ket?
[17:05] <plentybinary> kit***
[17:06] <Slabdabs> through them not really, but it's also not a $20 psu exactly
[17:07] <Slabdabs> well their basic kit isn't worth it, so i guess there. but the starter kit is a good deal imo
[17:07] <Slabdabs> i mean the basic you can just order an rpi2 and what you need since it's just that
[17:07] <Slabdabs> basic kit is only 52.99 on amazon
[17:08] <plentybinary> Slabdabs: yea but the with the basic im paying for a power supply i dont want
[17:08] <plentybinary> Slabdabs: like i love thier site they have all the little extras i want in one place and they are in canada
[17:08] <Slabdabs> why even get the basic then. just get an rpi2
[17:08] <Slabdabs> ahh
[17:08] <Slabdabs> okay that makes more sense to me now
[17:09] <plentybinary> Slabdabs: so i was hoping i could just get the pi2 on thier site for 40-50 w/e then get all my perihperals in one place
[17:09] <Slabdabs> amazon $52 cnd http://www.amazon.ca/Raspberry-Pi-100437_2-Model-1GB/dp/B00T2U7R7I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1438621759&sr=8-2&keywords=raspberry+pi+2
[17:09] <Slabdabs> and just get all your extras there
[17:10] <plentybinary> Slabdabs: Have you noticed much of a price diffrence between amazon and canakit? also i wouldnt mind grabbing the starter if it is a good deal
[17:12] <TheLostAdmin> Considering that the Canakit price is in Canadian dollars and the amazon price is probably in US dollars, the prices seam pretty close to me.
[17:12] <TheLostAdmin> I stand corrected. I should have clicked the amazon link first.
[17:13] <TheLostAdmin> However, the Canakit comes with a power supply that will keep the Pi fully powered. Those can get costly.
[17:13] <plentybinary> lol, welk it just comes down to getting things i dont need, im happy to pay over $100 i just dont want a box full of things im not going to use
[17:13] <plentybinary> could i not just use my phone charger to keep it powered?
[17:14] <TheLostAdmin> Have you got a USB power supply that can sustain 2amps @ 5volts reliably?
[17:14] <TheLostAdmin> 2.5amps if you want to fully power all 4 USB ports on the Pi 2.
[17:14] <TheLostAdmin> more if you want to do some serious overclocking of the Pi.
[17:15] <plentybinary> is that not the standard for android phone chargers?
[17:15] <TheLostAdmin> nope
[17:15] <plentybinary> oh shit..
[17:15] <TheLostAdmin> My Android charger is 1.2amps
[17:15] <Slabdabs> plentybinary: at least on amazon.com in the us the starter kit is a great deal
[17:15] <plentybinary> im so glad i came on here, this is making way more sense now.
[17:15] <TheLostAdmin> most phone chargers are under 1 amp.
[17:16] <Slabdabs> http://www.amazon.ca/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Supply/dp/B0096M7IJY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1438622163&sr=1-1&keywords=canakit
[17:16] <TheLostAdmin> also, most phone chargers list their max (burst) output, not sustained.
[17:16] <Slabdabs> i mean i use everything but the HDMI cable from mine since i already had a few
[17:16] <Slabdabs> yeah unless it's a tablet charger it might not push enough amps
[17:17] <Slabdabs> phone will run it, but will limit it and probably won't power much through their usb ports
[17:17] <Slabdabs> so good luck with an external drive :p
[17:17] <TheLostAdmin> I picked up a couple of Blackberry fast chargers on sale (even then they were about $20 CAD each).
[17:17] <plentybinary> Well the started kit on amazon and canada computers looks to be the same price, but now that i understand why certain things are priced the way they are im much happier paying the $90
[17:17] <plentybinary> canakit***
[17:17] <TheLostAdmin> They put out (reliably) 1.8amps each.
[17:18] <TheLostAdmin> That's enough for my Pi needs but I only use the USB ports for keyboard and mouse when I need to log-in directly (generally the Pi's run headless).
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[17:18] <Slabdabs> yeah i love that OSMC responds to my tv's remote
[17:19] <Slabdabs> or if i'm running retropie i'm just using a snes controller
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[17:20] <plentybinary> thanks for the help guys i have decided on my what to get. Do any of you use linux on your main box?
[17:20] <plentybinary> i was kind of hoping i could run the pi through a tty on my system
[17:21] <TheLostAdmin> plentybinary, I don't use Linux on my "main box" but I used to use FreeBSD.
[17:22] <TheLostAdmin> Plus, I set-up my Pi as a remote desktop server (SSH + VNC). So I am familiar with some desktop linux things.
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[17:22] <plentybinary> TheLostAdmin: oh well that seals it there, if i can ssh into like that i can run all commands through my main comp
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[17:23] <TheLostAdmin> plentybinary, you will need a keyboard and HDMI display to do the initial setup but after that it runs headless just fine.
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[17:24] <TheLostAdmin> Do remember to shutdown -h before unplugging the power supply. The SDHC cards are really picky about sudden power loss.
[17:24] <plentybinary> TheLostAdmin: thats what i was hoping to hear, im an arduino convert so i like the idea of running it all through one system
[17:24] <plentybinary> TheLostAdmin: thnx for the tip i will keep that in mind
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[17:24] <TheLostAdmin> Not a problem at all, plentybinary. I've got 2 PIs. Neither of them have heads.
[17:25] <plentybinary> TheLostAdmin: Now when you say heads you mean independent HID and video out yes?
[17:25] <TheLostAdmin> right
[17:26] <plentybinary> TheLostAdmin: wishing i ordered this a week ago i want to play with it right now lol
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[20:08] <nrgdrnk> Hi. I'm setting up an Rpi2 with Raspbian/Jessie. It's up, running kernel 3.18. I installed rpi-update, and exec'd it. I get the notice that "WARNING: This update bumps to rpi-4.0.y linux tree", no errors, and then reboot.
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[20:08] <nrgdrnk> It still boots to kernel 3.18 -- not 4.x. Did I miss a step?
[20:09] <diederik> you have to edit /boot/config.txt and comment out or delete the 'kernel' and 'initramfs' lines. If those are the only ones, you can also delete /boot/config.txt
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[20:13] <nrgdrnk> diederik: Thanks, did the trick!
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[20:13] <diederik> excellent :)
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[20:27] <Solak> Hello.
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[20:29] * Solak wonders how to login with ssh on raspbian-ua-netinst..
[20:31] <diederik> user 'root' password 'raspbian'
[20:32] <Solak> diederik: thanks!
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[20:32] <diederik> yw
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[20:37] <r00t66> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.18.19-1-MANJARO x86_64 ** Distro: ManjaroLinuxanjaroLinux ** CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.09GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 85.2% free ** Disk: Total: 17.6GiB, 42.4% free ** VGA: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter ** Sound: ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 2h 22m 45s **
[20:38] <r00t66> oops, nvm
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[20:47] <Solak> sigh... hdmi...
[20:47] <Slabdabs> wooo hdmi
[20:47] <Solak> 'No One Connect Mini detected. Please check the connection.'
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[20:48] <Solak> there is a pi2, a cable and a connected One Connect Mini...
[20:48] <Slabdabs> interesting, never seen the one connect
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[20:51] <Solak> Slabdabs: it's a small box with 4 hdmi and 2 usb connectors, and it is connected to the tv with a special cable... I have no idea why Samsung decided to add something like that to some tv's, and not just add the connectors to the tv itself.
[20:51] <Slabdabs> because money lol
[20:52] <Slabdabs> are you connecting your RPi using hdmi or usb?
[20:52] <Solak> Slabdabs: hdmi.
[20:52] <Slabdabs> weird, have power running to the rpi already?
[20:53] <Solak> it is connected and works fine (I can ssh to the pi).
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[22:06] <niston> http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-accessories/SEK-2500U/ZA
[22:07] <niston> so if a new standard emerges, you buy a new "one connect" box and tadaa
[22:08] <niston> your screen can haz connector
[22:08] <niston> does the box get recognized by the TV with another hdmi source (not raspi) connected to it?
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[22:14] <niston> lol "[...] bought this so that I could watch Netflix in 4K, but after setup there is no Netflix app. I wasted several hours on support "troubleshooting," but finally they said this is a known issue [...]"
[22:17] <Merko> that box only work on some new samsung TVs as it use a special cable
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[22:18] <niston> reading through the reviews it looks like a piece-of
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[23:13] <Ungenious> Anyone running gst-omx on 1080p h264? And how's your CPU usage?
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[23:44] <nrgdrnk> I'm prepping a raspbian/jessie install for building kodi. When I try to "apt-get build-dep -y kodi" to get the dev env set up, like I keep reading online in a bunch of places, I just get nothing -- no action, nothing's found or installed. I just get: "E: Unable to find a source package for kodi"
[23:44] <nrgdrnk> If I "apt-cache search kodi", I DO see "kodi - XBMC Media Center (arch-independent data package)"
[23:45] <nrgdrnk> How do you get the build deps?
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