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[8:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:00] <errorea> hi, is there a channel for raspberry itself?
[10:01] <Tach[Away]> #raspberrypi
[10:01] <Tach[Away]> Also #raspbian for the os
[10:01] <errorea> I am looking for advice, want to buy external storage for raspberry and looking for guidance which to choose- I want to have it on 24/7 so the hard drive is also running all the time
[10:02] <errorea> +r in raspberrypi :(
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[10:09] <errorea> What is your experience? Im afraid to lose the harddrive, it will be running all the time and the raspberry will also be powered all the time and connected to the net.
[10:09] <errorea> So what should I look for in harddrives?
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[11:32] <gox39> hi poeple I have retropi installed on my pi2 and I want to pair my bluetooth based gaming controller. this controller works well with xubuntu and windows with no problem. I was able to pair / trust the controller but I cannot establish a connection to my pi2.
[11:32] <gox39> any ideas why?
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[15:02] <tomphi> hi everyone
[15:05] <tomphi> i'm not a very techie person and i'm struggling to find answers i can understand on the web, do you mind if i ask some questions here?
[15:06] <shiftplusone> tomphi: of course, that's what the channel is here for
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[15:11] <tomphi> i've bought a raspberry pi 2 and a hifiberry. i want to play audio over the internet through the device, mp3s and also recording through a microphone. i've assumed the easiest way to do this would be to stream an online radio show to the raspberry pi using volumio, and i'm using mixxx on my computer and a free icecast2 server from listen2myradio. however the more i'm getting in to this the more it seems like i'm maybe overcomplicat
[15:12] <tomphi> ...more aware of the limitations of listen2myradio (bitrate, plus some other features).
[15:12] <holstein> you shouldnt need a remote icecast server.. is that the goal? broadcast? or just doing that locally?
[15:13] <holstein> if you want to play music over your local net, then, no.. the easiest way is *not* by creating an online radio show..
[15:13] <tomphi> i don't need to broadcast an internet show, it would be local. but i'd need to connect from a computer to the raspberry pi over the internet, and have the ability to play music and do live recordings with a microphone
[15:14] <holstein> http://groovebasin.com/ does a great job of playing/hosting content like that
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[15:14] <holstein> id say, you wont like the recording being remote like that
[15:14] <tomphi> i'll look in to it, thanks holstein
[15:14] <holstein> i would keep the recording on the host machine, and then, you can just upload to a share, or to something like groovebasin.. there are many
[15:15] <holstein> anyways, you have no need to overcomplicate the networking by leaving your local lan
[15:15] <tomphi> but does that allow the use of a microphone?
[15:15] <holstein> tomphi: as i said, i dont suggest doing it that way
[15:15] <holstein> tomphi: i say, use the *local* machine, and whatever proper recording setup, to record.. *then*, upload to the share
[15:16] <tomphi> also it'd be using two different internet connections.
[15:16] <holstein> tomphi: why?
[15:16] <holstein> anyways, those are networking issues for you to address.. VPN's, or whatever
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[15:18] <tomphi> i want people to be able to login anywhere, on their own connections, and play to the device
[15:19] <holstein> tomphi: sure.. what people? and why?
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[15:20] <tomphi> hmm. the raspberry pi and hifiberry isn't going to be connected to some speakers. it's going to be connected to a very low power fm transmitter.
[15:20] <holstein> and, they cant remove mic in.. so, you can, again, address this with a network playing solution, and upoad
[15:20] <holstein> remote*
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[15:21] <DelphiWorld> yo the raspbianists
[15:21] <DelphiWorld> please give me the raspbian apt repo line?
[15:21] <holstein> anyways, i think you just need to document what your needs are, and, dont even think about it being a pi.. think more about the server/client solutions you need
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[15:21] <faLUCE> hello, where can I find a deb package for mariadb ? It seems vanished from everywhere
[15:21] * DelphiWorld want the raspbian repo ;)
[15:22] <tomphi> i'm just not techie at all, i'm trying hard to understand what you're saying but this is a huge learning curve for me
[15:22] <tomphi> thanks though
[15:22] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: dont crosspost:P
[15:22] <holstein> DelphiWorld: https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianRepository
[15:22] <faLUCE> DelphiWorld: you just crossposted
[15:22] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: lol, cause the #raspberrypi was inapropriate for that so i cam here :-P
[15:23] <tomphi> as in the aim is to have the small power fm transmitter hooked up to the pi, and then to be able to play music and speak in to a mic and send that to the pi over the internet to play through the transmitter
[15:23] <faLUCE> DelphiWorld: that was my reason too. please, stop to be stupid
[15:23] <tomphi> and to be able to do that from any computer and any internet connection
[15:23] <holstein> tomphi: sure.. but, the pi is kind of irrelevant.. so, just test, and identify the server/client software you need, and implement it
[15:23] <tomphi> okay
[15:23] <holstein> the pi will just be a host machine in the scneario..
[15:23] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: am i? regardless... if mariadb is maintened in debian just add debian repo if its missing
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[15:24] <tomphi> aye i get that
[15:24] <faLUCE> DelphiWorld: there are not packages for arm
[15:24] <tomphi> i kind of had. i was going to put volumio on it and stream an internet radio show to it created using mixx. that's as far as i was able to see really. then i thought maybe the pi could be used as an icecast server AND as a music player, which is why i came here
[15:25] <holstein> tomphi: so, if internet broadcast is the goal, and not just on your local network, then, icecast is a good idea.. but, what people? logging in where? and doing what?
[15:25] <tomphi> fm broadcast is the goal
[15:25] <holstein> tomphi: that could be as simple as an ssh share that folks are allowed access to
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[15:25] <holstein> tomphi: is it? i thought, you were transfering the broadcast to FM?
[15:26] <holstein> tomphi: if you are doing that, then, *each* person doenst need access to broadcast via fm. they just connect to the server im trying to help you work out
[15:26] <tomphi> okay, as in fm broadcast is the ultimate goal. the internet part was just to get there eventually. but it adds a lot of complications which might not be necessary
[15:26] <tomphi> aye
[15:26] <tomphi> aye
[15:26] <holstein> tomphi: what i suggest is, find someone else doing what you are doing on the computer.. dont even complicate it with the FM talk.. just find the server component that fits your needs, and test it
[15:27] <tomphi> that's why i thought the internet radio part was useful because it meant anyone could connect to the server
[15:27] <tomphi> cool
[15:27] <holstein> tomphi: anyone? why? and how? and for what purpose are they connecting?
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[15:27] <tomphi> to create an internet show
[15:27] <tomphi> sorr
[15:27] <tomphi> a radio show*
[15:27] <holstein> to literally control some server? playback? or just upload a file of a show they made?
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[15:27] <holstein> if so, that can, as i said, be as simple as an ssh share
[15:27] <tomphi> to create a radio show, live
[15:28] <tomphi> i'll look in to that, thanks
[15:28] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: airtime:)
[15:28] <holstein> tomphi: servers dont create live radio shows, though, friend.. you have to split thost jobs up.. you have to understand who is getting access,a nd how, and why..
[15:28] <holstein> airtime is an option as well ^
[15:28] <tomphi> yeah i looked in to airtime. seems complicated. also doesn't give you a server, you need to provide that your self, or pay for it
[15:28] <holstein> tomphi: ? what you are trying to do *is* complicated..
[15:29] <tomphi> aye, holstein. i have got a free server from listen2myradio which is a bit crap. and i'm using the software mixxx to broadcast the show
[15:29] <holstein> tomphi: you have the pi for the server. thats the entire point
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[15:29] <holstein> anyways, no need to re-invent the wheel. what you are doing requires bandwidth.. you either pay for it, or, tolerate what you have on your home internet..
[15:30] <tomphi> oh okay, so i can use the pi as a server?
[15:30] <holstein> theres no "better" server software that lets you circumvent needing bandwidth to do what you are trying to do
[15:30] <DelphiWorld> tomphi, holstein: i use airtime runing in a small linode vps working pretty awesome
[15:30] <holstein> streaming radio costs money.. so, i say, setup something like a digital ocean server, that you can easily scale..
[15:31] <holstein> DelphiWorld: right, and if you see tomphi say thats the goal, then, that'll work.. otherwise, we are still determining the needs
[15:31] <holstein> linode, DO.. all of those should work fine..
[15:31] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: explain your needs i'm a radio expert
[15:31] <holstein> lol
[15:31] <tomphi> cool delphiworld
[15:31] <holstein> you can just read above ^
[15:32] <tomphi> sorry holstein you've been great
[15:32] <DelphiWorld> tomphi & holstein i'm a blind using tts so pretty crazy to scroll back Lol
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[15:33] <tomphi> ok so i have a small fm transmitter which i want to be able to remotely connect to over the internet to play music to, mp3s and also live audio through a mic. i bought a pi for that and a hifiberry (might not have needed this) and as far as i could tell the easiest thing to do would be to install volumio, create an internet radio show, and stream the radio show to the pi and connect the pi to the fm transmitter
[15:34] <tomphi> however i think that might be overcomplicating things
[15:34] <holstein> fm transmitters *dont* connnect to the internet
[15:34] <tomphi> yes
[15:34] <tomphi> the pi does
[15:34] <tomphi> that's why i got the pi
[15:34] <holstein> so, lets try and just iron out your request
[15:34] <DelphiWorld> but how you'll link your fm transmiter?
[15:34] <tomphi> a cable
[15:34] <holstein> you want a *computer* or server to connect, and you use the FM transmitter analog
[15:35] <tomphi> also i have a wireless dongle of course
[15:35] <tomphi> sorry i should have said that
[15:35] <DelphiWorld> holstein: the 3.5MM jack is mono right?
[15:35] <tomphi> pi+hifiberry+wireless dongle
[15:35] <holstein> there is an add-on
[15:35] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: where's your fm transmiter located... is the same house or no
[15:36] <holstein> the pi berry.. which, makes it export, arguably, high quality audio, via analog connection
[15:36] <tomphi> no
[15:36] <holstein> hifi berry*
[15:36] <tomphi> the fm transmitter is going to go somewhere high
[15:36] <tomphi> with an internet connection and power
[15:36] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: ok so do the following:
[15:37] <DelphiWorld> this is my plan to you, tel me f it can feed your needs:
[15:37] <DelphiWorld> 1. use something like Ices or Dashcast on the pi, to remotely stream to a icecast server that you should setup. if you can't, get a static ip in the same connection at the transmiter.
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[15:38] <DelphiWorld> 2. the fm transmiter should be linked to a pc runing winamp or any player that could stream from your icecast server
[15:38] <DelphiWorld> you're ready to rocks
[15:39] <tomphi> thanks dude
[15:39] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: got mariaDB deb?
[15:39] <tomphi> hold on. so ices or dashcast streams TO an icecast server?
[15:39] <DelphiWorld> welcome tomphi
[15:39] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: yes
[15:40] <tomphi> i want the pi to recieve and play a stream and i want to stream from a computer
[15:40] <tomphi> sorry if i've misunderstood
[15:40] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: remember your airtime server could also be in the same place as the transmiter, and you remotely stream from dashcast to the airtime
[15:40] <holstein> tomphi: you dont need the pi to both recieve and send a stream
[15:40] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: what you want the pi to receive?
[15:40] <tomphi> hold on i'm being crap
[15:40] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: back to you, got mariaDB package yet?
[15:41] <DelphiWorld> faLUCE: http://blog.pi3g.com/2014/07/easy-mariadb-installation/
[15:41] <tomphi> okay let me try to be clearer.
[15:43] <tomphi> i want to leave the fm transmitter alone, somewhre high up, that i can't access. that's why i bought the pi. i was going to connect the hifiberry and a wireless dongle to the pi, connect that to the fm transmitter. then iw ant to go on my computer at another location and stream music and live voice recordings from another connection
[15:43] <holstein> sure.. do that
[15:43] <tomphi> does what you said work for that?
[15:43] <holstein> its not running any software, so, it wont matter.. its an analog connection
[15:43] <holstein> its not really part of the equation
[15:44] <DelphiWorld> SO i dont see the use of rpi if you have a pc
[15:44] <tomphi> yes, but i want to connect to the transmitter via the pi
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[15:44] <tomphi> over the internet
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[15:45] <holstein> but, you dont *need* to
[15:45] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: so just connect using the pc! :P
[15:45] <holstein> you can do that, and remote in to the pi, everytime.. or, use some other connection means..
[15:45] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: like i sayd you need pc's on both side
[15:46] <tomphi> can't the pi act as one of the pcs?
[15:46] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: yes, then get the other pc inside of the transmiter room, install airtime on it
[15:46] <DelphiWorld> and link it via analog jack
[15:46] <tomphi> there is no transmitter room
[15:46] <DelphiWorld> regardless same place of transmiter
[15:46] <tomphi> it's gonna be left on a roof somewhere
[15:47] <holstein> why?
[15:47] <tomphi> pirate radio, essentially, but a v low power one
[15:47] <holstein> if this is pirate radio, i would just start simple.. start with a simple internet only stream
[15:47] <DelphiWorld> Lol... HAHAHA
[15:47] <tomphi> :)
[15:48] <holstein> then, when that is working, you can literally jack out of the audio output, and add the FM part, from *any* machine conneted to the stream
[15:48] <tomphi> okay cool. sorry for skirting around that
[15:48] <holstein> so, you are streaming in your house.. the host server PC doing what its doing.. the connected pi is *only* connected as a client, and streaming the show via the FM transmitter
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[15:49] <tomphi> cool cool
[15:49] <tomphi> yeah is that the simplest option?
[15:49] <tomphi> i gues i'm asking....can the pi be a server as well?
[15:49] <holstein> tomphi: it doesnt need to be
[15:49] <tomphi> i know. but would it be simpler if it was?
[15:50] <tomphi> maybe not
[15:50] <tomphi> probably not actually
[15:50] <tomphi> aye
[15:50] <tomphi> okat
[15:50] <holstein> tomphi: it'll literaly be up a pole, or whatever, and you can remote in, as needed.. its just connected to the stream, like *any* listener, streaming the show, via FM
[15:50] <tomphi> okay
[15:50] <holstein> thats what you want.. thats whats happening, and you can add it onto a working, simple, well documented airtime setup
[15:50] <tomphi> i just thought the pi could make a nice simple server too. so i wouldn't have to have an additional computer acting as a server
[15:51] <tomphi> especially as the pi is low power
[15:51] <tomphi> it would cut out the server pc
[15:51] <DelphiWorld> holstein: i love airtime even if they have a fucked up gui in term of accessibility
[15:51] <holstein> the server is doing to be the machine you are streaming from..
[15:51] <tomphi> ah
[15:51] <holstein> or, your VPS, or whatever
[15:51] <tomphi> but here's the thing. i want other people to be able to use their own computers too
[15:52] <DelphiWorld> yes
[15:52] <holstein> tomphi: sure.. so, dont stop them from doing so
[15:52] <DelphiWorld> so use airtime airtime airtime
[15:52] <holstein> tomphi: set up a server, and configure it for whoever the hell you are talking about to connect
[15:52] <at0m> holstein: http://icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter uses gpio
[15:52] <holstein> that can look like, a webshare, via ssh, playing files to icecast, in a simple way.. it can be at home, or on vps, or any version of that
[15:52] <at0m> pi natively does FM tx
[15:53] <holstein> at0m: i'll just relink that to tomphi
[15:53] <holstein> tomphi: http://icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter
[15:53] <at0m> have tried a bit, but didnt werk for me this far
[15:53] <DelphiWorld> a0but this is a 10meters transmiter Lool
[15:53] <holstein> though, the FM transmitter is already purchased, AFAIK
[15:53] <tomphi> and what, give them the ip address and the port or whatever?
[15:53] <tomphi> and they can connect to it using whatever software they want?
[15:53] <holstein> tomphi: *you* setup the server, so that whoever you are talking about can connect however you want them to
[15:54] <DelphiWorld> tomphi: AIRTIIIIIIIIIME with any client. you could schedule and do anything and even live it automating
[15:54] <holstein> tomphi: there are many ways to do that.. airtime is one..
[15:54] <at0m> i'm working on a similar project (long term) to put pi's in venues as recording and icecast box
[15:55] <at0m> streaming old gigs when nothing's on, and artists can put in a usb then take the recording home etc
[15:55] <holstein> at0m: nice.. handy
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[15:55] <holstein> i used to use BUTT, and my own icecast server, on gigs
[15:55] <tomprhi2> sorry something went wtong
[15:55] <tomprhi2> this is what i did this morning
[15:55] <tomprhi2> :
[15:55] <at0m> holstein: BUTT link?
[15:56] <holstein> at0m: broadcast using this tool. might be dead by now
[15:56] <holstein> this was years ago
[15:56] <DelphiWorld> i dont like butt
[15:56] <at0m> ok
[15:56] <DelphiWorld> there's nicecast also on mac
[15:56] <DelphiWorld> or dashcast
[15:56] <holstein> http://butt.sourceforge.net/ is where it was..
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[15:56] <at0m> thanks
[15:56] <holstein> BUTT worked fine.. worked as advertised
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[15:57] <tomprhi2> i set up an icecasr2 server (i think) on listen2myradio. i connected to the server using mixxx. i played music and spoke in to a mic on mixxx and it broadcast it to an internet radio stream. then i played that stream on my phone and connected my phone to an fm transmitter. which i then picked up on an analogue radio. is that essentially the process i should be looking at?
[15:57] <teclo-> heh
[15:57] <DelphiWorld> holstein: my issue with butt is accessibility
[15:57] <tomprhi2> but using my own server rather than one from listen2myradio
[15:57] <teclo-> how's your butt ?
[15:57] <holstein> DelphiWorld: its not meant for that.. though..
[15:57] <holstein> its just meant for a simple stream, and it doest it pretty well, to icecast
[15:57] <holstein> though, its old/dead, now
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[15:58] <holstein> i had a dedicated BUTT box, that i could connect analog signals to, and stream to an address, i could share..
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> holstein: could you help me resize my sd?
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> but i want to resize it from inside of the rpi
[15:59] <tomprhi2> hmm
[15:59] <holstein> DelphiWorld: i always just do it with the included tool, at boot
[15:59] <holstein> DelphiWorld: i dont suggest resizing partitions from inside the running partition
[16:00] <DelphiWorld> holstein: i'm runing a image that dont have raspi :(
[16:00] <tomprhi2> the problem with that whole process is that i'm jumping around from so many different devices and i worry the sound quality will suffer. also it seems overly complicated
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[16:00] <tomprhi2> but you think that's the easiest way to do it?
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[16:01] <holstein> tomprhi2: its not easy
[16:01] <tomprhi2> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=99196
[16:01] <tomprhi2> this is sort of what i was thinking of ^
[16:01] <holstein> tomprhi2: its something that you have to test parts, and decide what works for you, and whomever you are trying to facilitate connecting
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[16:02] <tomprhi2> but rather than connecting to speakers like he is i would connect to the transmitter
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[16:02] <tomprhi2> and also he's using two (or more) pis when i was hoping to use one
[16:02] <holstein> right
[16:02] <holstein> the pi, connect *however* you intend folks to connect to the stream, to listen, will do that
[16:02] <DelphiWorld> holstein: the 3.5 jack is mono or stereo?
[16:03] <tomprhi2> i dunno
[16:03] <holstein> it will be the same as, if i were tuned into your stream, and want to stream your station via headhpones.. etc
[16:03] <tomprhi2> how do i check?
[16:03] <holstein> DelphiWorld: there is an addon, that tomprhi2 has.. so, thats not an issue
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[16:03] <tomprhi2> the hifiberry? that allows stereo?
[16:03] <DelphiWorld> holstein: no no, i'm talking about the built-in one
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[16:04] <holstein> i dont know.. i havent listened to audio from it
[16:04] <holstein> its only been a server, for my needs..
[16:04] <tomprhi2> the hifiberry adds on the the pi and it has a soundcard phono cable socket things
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[16:05] <tomprhi2> god i'm bad at this. sorry it's such a hassle
[16:05] <holstein> its not a hassle for me, at all..
[16:05] <holstein> you just have to start trying things..
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[16:05] <tomprhi2> yep. well, i've tried something, and it works, and i'm just asking for input about it, cos it seems like i'm missing something
[16:05] <holstein> saying "oh, its so challenging".. yeah.. thats why folks charge for this service..
[16:06] <holstein> tomprhi2: what are you missing? the FM transmitter? connect the pi to your stream, and stream it, and output to the jack the FM transmitter is connected to
[16:06] <tomprhi2> trying to be more specific. i know the pi can connect to an online radio stream. i know it can also become an icecast server. can it do BOTH?#
[16:06] <holstein> both of your *very* close neighbors will appreciate it.. assuming they notice/care
[16:07] <tomprhi2> yep holstein: that's what i'm going for atm
[16:07] <holstein> tomprhi2: you dont *need* it to be both.. but, yes.. it can be.. would i do that with the machine? no
[16:07] <tomprhi2> why wouldn't you?
[16:07] <DelphiWorld> tomprhi2: pay i'll do it for you, Lol (^JOKING^) :P
[16:07] <holstein> tomprhi2: i would have my icecast server on digital ocean..
[16:07] <tomprhi2> i don't have a server or a machine acting as a server
[16:07] <tomprhi2> digital ocean?
[16:07] <holstein> tomprhi2: you need a server.. its part of the system.. you can run that locally, and you*can* run that on the pi..
[16:08] <holstein> tomprhi2: digital ocean.. linode.. etc.. some VPS
[16:08] <tomprhi2> that you pay for?
[16:08] <holstein> you pay for something, regerdless
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[16:08] <holstein> you are paying for you local internet..
[16:08] <tomprhi2> yes...but i would rather not pay more than i need to
[16:08] <holstein> im just talking about what is more appropriate, and "easy", as you say..
[16:09] <tomprhi2> money is the most important thing
[16:09] <holstein> tomprhi2: sure.. and, as i said, you dont need to.. so, you run it locally.. and i also said, i wouldnt use the pi, but you can
[16:09] <tomprhi2> i can't afford to pay monthly for a service
[16:09] <tomprhi2> cool okay
[16:09] <holstein> tomprhi2: you try it, and do what works for you.. i have no idea who is listening, when, or why.. or what kind of restrictions your isp has. or, your uptime needs
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[16:09] <tomprhi2> cool
[16:10] <holstein> i know, the pi is not enough for me to run that server on.. i know, my isp is not reliable enough for me to do that with.. i know that, i already have a VPS..
[16:10] <holstein> i dont know your needs. *you* have to figure that out for yourself
[16:10] <holstein> i say, use what you have, and try what you have locally.. when it doent work, you can move to other/better/more appropriate hardware or connections
[16:11] <tomprhi2> cool
[16:11] <tomprhi2> hmm...okay...so when you create a server that's using the internet connection, it's not just coming out of your computer? ah. i hadn't thought of that. silly me sorry
[16:12] <holstein> the server is just a software component
[16:12] <holstein> the server, again, can be as simple or complex as needed.. could be, again, a simple ssh share.. or, some system that does more of the work for you, like airtime..
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[16:20] <faLUCE> hello, where can I find mariadb deb packages for raspbian wheezy? They seem to be vanished from every repo
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[16:21] <holstein> faLUCE: you tried https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=lagoon&distro=Debian ?
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[16:22] <faLUCE> holstein: yes, tried both 5.5 and 10.0
[16:22] <faLUCE> holstein: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.eenet.ee/pub/mariadb/repo/5.5/debian/dists/wheezy/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
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[16:25] <diederik> faLUCE: raspbian wheezy doesn't have mariadb, jessie does though
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[16:26] <faLUCE> diederik: is there a way to install the jessie package on wheezy or too many deps?
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[16:27] <diederik> I don't know, but I'm guessing too many deps
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[16:29] <diederik> the downloads from mariadb.org are (afaics) all i386 and amd64, which will not work on the Pi
[16:29] <faLUCE> diederik: what about jessie? is there an image for pi?
[16:30] <diederik> not a ready made afaik
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[16:31] <diederik> what are you using your Pi for and do you use a GUI on it?
[16:33] <diederik> faLUCE: this may be of help to upgrade to jessie: https://vk5tu.livejournal.com/54182.html
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[16:46] <ChunkzZ> hello!
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[17:09] <tomprhi2> thanks for all the help guys
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[18:14] <plentybinary> hey quick question is a stepper motor controller needed? can i not just control the stepper motor on the GPIO pins for the most part?
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[18:29] <Odie_> plentybinary: the driver gives stepper the power to run
[18:30] <Odie_> not digital information. you might be able to run very small stepper directly (a guess).
[18:31] <Odie_> Real answer is: you need a driver
[18:31] <Odie_> because of the power needed to run the motor
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[18:47] <plentybinary> Odie_: ahh wasnt thinking of the power reqs just considering the information, thnx.
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[20:09] <tokelove> I have an SD card with NOOBS installed in my raspberry pi. It's supposed to boot with an option to install different operating systems, but it just boots into raspbian. I tried rebooting the pi and holding the shift key but with no luck.
[20:09] <ChunkzZ> hey, any idea why I can't get links2 to show a graphic mode?
[20:09] <tokelove> How can i get the NOOBS wizard to show up again?
[20:09] <ChunkzZ> I am typing "links2 -g" but it shows the same as normal links.
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[20:09] <ChunkzZ> tokelove: press and hold shift on your keyboard.
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[20:10] <tokelove> ChunkzZ: I tried this, it just boots up as normal. It says "Checking if shift key is held down: YES" which is the strange thing
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[20:11] <tokelove> Still just goes straight onto raspberrypi login
[20:11] <ChunkzZ> yeah you gotta keep pressing it
[20:11] <ChunkzZ> connect power, keep pressing it.
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[20:13] <tokelove> ChunkzZ: Still no luck. It says "Checking if shift key is held down: Yes. Not enabling ondemand scaling governor
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[20:13] <tokelove> ChunkzZ: It seems to recognise that I'm pressing the shift key, but just boots normally
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[20:15] <ChunkzZ> no idea then, sorry.
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[20:16] <ChunkzZ> anyone got an idea to my question?
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[20:16] <tokelove> No problem, thanks anyway
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[22:19] <faLUCE> hello, how much time does dist-upgrade require from wheezy to jessie ?
[22:22] <faLUCE> I mean: is it a matter of hours or minutes?
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[22:28] <diederik> hours is more likely
[22:31] <faLUCE> diederik: thanks
[22:32] <faLUCE> diederik: but I read somewhere it could takes 10 minutes.. it appeared strange to me
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[22:36] <diederik> Even with a raspbian minimal net-install it would take more then 10 mins
[22:38] <diederik> downloading and installing/upgrading hundreds of packages with the low IO speed of the Pi is going to take quite a while
[22:38] <faLUCE> diederik: I downloaded all in about 10 mins
[22:38] <faLUCE> now it is unpacking
[22:41] <diederik> that is rather (surprisingly) quick, but the rest of the process will take more time
[22:44] <faLUCE> a more generic question: which cloud server works better on raspberry pi? I tried owncloud and it was a disaster. now I'm trying pydio
[22:45] <diederik> In what way was owncloud a disaster?
[22:45] <faLUCE> slow, buggy, too much cpu etc.
[22:45] <diederik> all run from sd card?
[22:46] <faLUCE> diederik: yes
[22:46] <faLUCE> diederik: connected to an usb drive
[22:46] <diederik> that's likely the cause. Running most of the IO stuff on a usb drive should make quite a difference
[22:47] <diederik> But don't expect a cloud server on the Pi to give you good/top performance
[22:48] <faLUCE> diederik: rsync works perfectly
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[22:48] <diederik> That's because rsync minimizes IO as much as possible
[22:49] <faLUCE> diederik: owncloud makes http poll over ssh, this is crap
[22:50] <diederik> It could be that another cloud server is better in it's IO and that will likely perform better too. But I have no experience with other cloud servers and none on a Pi
[22:50] <faLUCE> diederik: in fact I want to try pydio
[22:51] <diederik> you're now talking about owncloud client (wih http over ssh)?
[22:51] <diederik> Pi 1 or 2?
[22:51] <diederik> IO with encryption like ssh is a real drag on the Pi 1
[22:53] <faLUCE> diederik: pi2
[22:53] <faLUCE> diederik: as said before, rsync works perfectly, and it uses ssh
[22:54] <diederik> ok, it would have been WAY worse with a Pi 1
[22:54] <diederik> ssh/encryption on a Pi 1 is no fun, but the Pi 2 has a lot more processing power
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[23:16] <datnig> hi guys - i am struggling but cannot get GPIO working.... i have exported the pins and can write values..but the voltages do not change
[23:16] <datnig> can anyone here help me out?
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[23:44] <bluenote> my pi2 has suddenly quit booting with a "VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (179,2) , and when I put the sd card in another pi and do a sudo blkid, I only see /boot . I have some stuff on here that will take a significant amount of time to recover so I'd prefer to try and save it. Can someone give me some suggestions?
[23:53] <bluenote> actually I can see the partition using sudo fdisk -l, but I don't know how to recover it
[23:56] <plugwash> does the partition appear in /proc/partitions ?
[23:56] <bluenote> I can actually mount it on a second pi right now
[23:57] <bluenote> but it doesn't boot on it's own
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[23:57] <bluenote> yes, I see /sda1 /sda2 in /proc/partitions
[23:58] <plugwash> what happens if you try to mount /dev/sda2 manually?
[23:58] <bluenote> it appears to work. I can traverse the directory structure
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