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[0:18] <SMPLMINDED> diederik: assuming anything else would need to be install manually via apt-get correct?
[0:18] <diederik> correct.
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[0:19] <diederik> through a configuration file you can also get various packages installed during the installation, but that's essentially the same as apt-get-ting them
[0:19] <SMPLMINDED> diederik: reason I was asking about Jessie is I installed it today, and now it boots to a graphic login instead of the console/terminal
[0:20] <SMPLMINDED> and I can't figure out how to stop that
[0:20] <SMPLMINDED> I went into raspi-config and set it to boot to console but it seems to ignore that
[0:21] <diederik> Can't help you with that, sorry. I basically never have a gui on my Pi systems
[0:21] <SMPLMINDED> should have went with that link you gave... but wasn't aware of it.
[0:22] <SMPLMINDED> wish there were more active people in the channel for help
[0:22] <diederik> it's often a hit or miss here. Sometimes it's quite active while at other times it's very quiet.
[0:23] <diederik> During daytime in Europe is probably your best chance for getting help
[0:24] <SMPLMINDED> its just driving me nuts 'cause can't figure out why its booting the to GUI instead of console
[0:24] <SMPLMINDED> checked all configs I could think of or find in google searches
[0:25] <diederik> I think you need to study/learn the actual boot process and learn the configuration files used in that
[0:26] <diederik> Don't rely on raspi-config since (afaik) it has not been updated to deal with jessie
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[0:28] <SMPLMINDED> okay will do
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[1:37] <Gaz____> chromium not available on wheezy anymore?
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[1:47] <xhan0o> Hello.
[1:48] <xhan0o> Do anybody know alternative of yowsup?
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[8:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:18] <zGrr> moin :)
[9:18] <lordievader> o/
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[10:13] <samskiter> hey, does anyone know how I can flip a gpio pin after linux shutdown in order to power off? or how linux power off actually works? i have a gpio line i need to flip to power off my pi
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[10:56] <ChunkzZ> hello! can anyone recommend a wireless usb dongle and a memory card for raspbian?
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[11:14] <gox39> Hi people, can someone assist me with pairing my bluetooth controller with the help of the bluez- command tools ? I did a "$ sudo bluez-test-input connect xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx " but the problem is that there is no js0 device created in the /dev/input folder
[11:15] <gox39> can someone help
[11:15] <gox39> i followed these instructions: questions
[11:15] <gox39> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30481198/using-ipega-bluetooth-gamepad-with-retropie
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[11:18] <ChunkzZ> anyone? :)
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[11:51] <Ryvius> Help, my new RaspPi2 has microSD, while my old RaspPi has normal SD. How do I copy my system over to microSD?
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[11:53] <Ryvius> Oops I guess this should go into the raspberrypi channel instead of here
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[11:55] <lordievader> Ryvius: dd?
[11:55] <Ryvius> Huh...? You mean, over network?
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[11:57] <break3r> don't you have an adaptor?
[11:58] <break3r> dd from sd to hdd, dd from hdd to micro sd
[11:59] <Ryvius> Hmm, but my workstation is windows...
[12:00] <break3r> linux live?
[12:00] <break3r> i don't know any program which can do that in windows...maybe then create an image from sd and use win32diskimager to copy it to msd
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[12:04] <Ryvius> Yes I'll try that
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[12:25] <lordievader> dd over ssh works fine too.
[12:26] <Ryvius> There's a problem that the new MicroSD is only half the size of the old SD
[12:26] <Ryvius> Will dd still work with that?
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[12:31] <GPF> Hi
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[12:32] <GPF> I have a static network configuration but since updating to the new raspbian based on Jessie/Systemd 'dhclient' is started every time the network link flaps (but not after reboots) even though I have a static configuration in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:32] <GPF> any idea why?
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[12:32] <GPF> kernel: [76505.351344] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: link down
[12:32] <GPF> dhclient: Killed old client process
[12:32] <GPF> (but there was no *old* client)
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[12:33] <GPF> kernel: [76507.471423] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: link up, 100Mbps
[12:33] <GPF> dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.3.1
[12:33] <GPF> and I have no idea how to stop that from happening except purging the dhclient package completely
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[12:41] <lordievader> Ryvius: Hmm, no. Try rsync if the contents do fit.
[12:41] <lordievader> Or resize the partition beforehand and only dd the partition.
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[12:56] <John[Lisbeth]> Okay. So I gots me some arm compatible software.
[12:57] <John[Lisbeth]> gotta put it on my pi in my path
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[13:23] <ChunkzZ> is there a guide to installing jessie on a pi 2?
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[13:27] <John[Lisbeth]> ChunkzZ yes
[13:27] <John[Lisbeth]> I just did that let me find it for you
[13:27] <ChunkzZ> John[Lisbeth], can I install crunchbang? if so, how? it's based on jessie.
[13:28] <ChunkzZ> well, bunsen labs.
[13:28] <John[Lisbeth]> You can't directly install crunchbang, but you can install raspbian and then put openbox on it. Then all you have to do is copy a few config files over and you've got crunchbang
[13:28] <John[Lisbeth]> Also I think the crunchbang project died.
[13:28] <ChunkzZ> okay, what about jessie?
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[13:29] <John[Lisbeth]> Don't quote me on that, though.
[13:29] <ChunkzZ> okay, how do I install jessie? you got a link?
[13:29] <John[Lisbeth]> Well Raspian should come with Jessie as far as I know, though I haven't checked. OFFICIAL jessie is not supported on raspberry pi.
[13:29] <ChunkzZ> yeah it's based on wheezy.
[13:30] <John[Lisbeth]> let me find you a guide for installing raspian that worked on my pi 2
[13:30] <ChunkzZ> I already have raspbian mate
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[13:30] <ChunkzZ> but it's based on wheezy.
[13:31] <John[Lisbeth]> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md
[13:31] <John[Lisbeth]> Yeah. it's based on wheezy. A thing about the linux community is that most channels hate supporting something that isn't "officially" what their distro channel is about.
[13:31] <ChunkzZ> yes. I have done that and HAVE raspbian wheezy installed...
[13:31] <John[Lisbeth]> Oh, I see.
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[13:32] <John[Lisbeth]> Maybe that's a sign that we need more developers for Raspbian.
[13:32] <ChunkzZ> wheezy is a bit outdated imo
[13:32] <John[Lisbeth]> Well you can still do lots of computer science and project type stuff with it nonetheless.
[13:33] <John[Lisbeth]> There is an ubuntu core image with more bleeding edge software if you like that better.
[13:33] <ChunkzZ> I just think rasp is outdated tbh
[13:33] <John[Lisbeth]> Well that's Debian for you.
[13:34] <John[Lisbeth]> Debian people are more about stability than almost any other community. I'd say RHEL and OpenSUSE are on par.
[13:34] <ChunkzZ> so what can I install?
[13:34] <John[Lisbeth]> There are also arch and gentoo available for the pi.
[13:34] <ChunkzZ> yeah, I dislike arch.
[13:34] <John[Lisbeth]> How experienced are you with linux>
[13:34] <ChunkzZ> I know the basics.
[13:35] <John[Lisbeth]> Good with the shell?
[13:35] <ChunkzZ> yeah
[13:35] <John[Lisbeth]> If you want my personal opinion ubuntu or raspbian are where it's at
[13:35] <John[Lisbeth]> on the pi currently, at least
[13:36] <John[Lisbeth]> Ubuntu is easier for beginners.
[13:36] <ChunkzZ> what about gentoo?
[13:37] <John[Lisbeth]> Gentoo is exactly like arch but you also pick the source code of everything you install and compile it on your pi before you install it.
[13:37] <John[Lisbeth]> Do this if you want to be a linux grandmaster with a beard longer than Shamus himself.
[13:37] <John[Lisbeth]> But it will also take up hours of your time.
[13:37] <ChunkzZ> I just want something fast lol
[13:38] <John[Lisbeth]> Well ubuntu is really your best option, if you can't handle the old packages. I'd suggest you just try it out though.
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[13:38] <John[Lisbeth]> When you learn debian you learn how to add packages to your system yourself.
[13:38] <John[Lisbeth]> Then you don't rely on the repos anymore.
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[13:39] <ChunkzZ> yeah like raspbian I can't install hexchat -.-
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[13:44] <John[Lisbeth]> Actually you "can" install hexchat. You just have to install it yourself and add it to your path.
[13:44] <John[Lisbeth]> This takes slightly longer but it means you can usually have whatever packages you want in whatever distro you want. If you are careful.
[13:45] <diederik> ever thought of changing /etc/apt/sources.list and then doing a dist-upgrade?
[13:45] <John[Lisbeth]> dist-upgrade is allegidaly dangerous though.
[13:45] <John[Lisbeth]> It has known issues.
[13:46] <John[Lisbeth]> Maybe it works fine in raspbian.
[13:46] <ChunkzZ> diederik, ?
[13:46] <John[Lisbeth]> What he is saying is
[13:46] <John[Lisbeth]> you have a set of URLs that lead to your package repositories.
[13:47] <ChunkzZ> I know but I don't know where to get an update source list for jessie.
[13:47] <diederik> the standard way in debian and thus raspbian(.org) is to do just that when you want to go from one stable version to the next
[13:47] <John[Lisbeth]> You can change those URLS in a file, to the ones for Jessie, or whatever you want.
[13:47] <ChunkzZ> diederik, can you give me a source list for jessie?
[13:47] <John[Lisbeth]> Google: How to dist upgrade raspbian to Jessie
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[13:47] <diederik> have you (ever) looked into /etc/apt/sources.list?
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[13:48] <ChunkzZ> yeah diederik
[13:48] <diederik> s/wheezy/jessie/
[13:48] <John[Lisbeth]> Yeah but that's only going to work if the debian people and the raspbian people get it totally right.
[13:49] <John[Lisbeth]> If you ask me, wait a little while to dist-upgrade. See if other people's machines blow up.
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[13:49] <diederik> the problem isn't so much the debian/raspbian packages, but the raspberrypi.org packages aren't fully updated
[13:49] <diederik> debian/raspbian jessie was released in the beginning of february
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[13:50] <diederik> but do use your favorite search engine and look for guides/troubles ppl have/had with upgrading.
[13:50] <diederik> And of course, make a backup first
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[14:23] <John[Lisbeth]> ChunkzZ_: Have you given it any more thought?
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[15:22] <ChunkzZ_> John[Lisbeth]: I'm just upgrading
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[16:37] <ChunkzZ> where's them two guys that were helping me????
[16:43] <diederik> just stating your problem publicly is more effective then directing your questions at specific person(s)...
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[17:00] <Slabdabs> diederik: people seem to be so bad at that in here
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[17:01] <diederik> the Pi is an educational tool, so just keep educating ppl ;)
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[18:03] <ChunkzZ> diederik, I didn't have a question, I wanted to say thanks to them!
[18:03] <ChunkzZ> I updated to jessie on my pi 2 and it's great!
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[18:05] <Slabdabs> nice ChunkzZ
[18:05] <Slabdabs> i think i remember you coming in and asking about it
[18:08] <ChunkzZ> yeah, earlier. :p
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[18:11] <MervTeck_> hello all!
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[18:12] <ChunkzZ> hello there.
[18:12] <MervTeck_> hows everyone doing
[18:12] <ChunkzZ> good! and you?
[18:13] <MervTeck_> aggrivated with my current pi project >.<
[18:13] <MervTeck_> 2 days now and im fighting every step of the process =(
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[18:30] <MervTeck_> anyone good with mysql? i cant even get this shit to install correctly -.- it fails to start every time
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[19:13] <MervTeck_> anyone got a sec to look at an error dump for my mysql install >.< its pissin me off
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[21:41] <LaunchDirector> i cant seem to get irssi 0.8.17 , only 0.8.15
[21:41] <LaunchDirector> can anyone help?
[21:42] <t3chguy> LaunchDirector: enable backports
[21:42] <LaunchDirector> apt only has .15 but there is a .17 version for raspbian, there is also this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/armhf/irssi-dbg/download
[21:42] <t3chguy> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=irssi
[21:42] <LaunchDirector> t3chguy: how do i enable backports
[21:42] <t3chguy> http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
[21:43] <LaunchDirector> ty
[21:45] <LaunchDirector> t3chguy: is that a wheezy or jessy backport? bit confused how this works
[21:45] <t3chguy> it says, for Wheezy add this line, for jessie add this line
[21:45] <t3chguy> add the line for which your debian version matches
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[21:46] <LaunchDirector> t3chguy: oh ye i was looking at the invidividual packages one, sorry
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[21:51] <LaunchDirector> t3chguy: i guess this is fine "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[21:51] <t3chguy> yeah should be safe to ignore
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[22:27] <ShorTie> that backport page is not any good for the pi
[22:27] <ShorTie> it's all compiled wrong
[22:27] <ShorTie> well not wrong, just not for the pi
[22:28] <Gaz____> chromium not available on wheezy anymore?
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[22:32] <diederik> t3chguy and LaunchDirector: when you direct ppl to the debian servers, please make sure they have the Pi 2. Otherwise strange/bad things can happen.
[22:32] <diederik> And in general, you just shouldn't do it.
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