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[2:00] <jmspeex> Hi, I just edited /etc/default/kodi to boot straight to kodi and I'm now stuck with no keyboard or mouse on boot. Any way to bypass the boot to kodi so I can fix this?
[2:00] <jmspeex> i.e. how do I "boot to single user" or equivalent?
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[2:02] <jmspeex> ah, somehow I managed to exit kodi and revert the setting.
[2:02] <jmspeex> Still any tip on booting to kodi *and* have mouse/keyboard working?
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[7:35] <samek> hello, what will happen with current release when you prepare new version based on jessie? I'm asking how long will be this (wheezy) be supported, as in available packages repos etc?
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[7:45] <plugwash> updates from debian will continue to be pulled in for as long as debian is producing them
[7:48] <plugwash> On the Debian side the main security team will suport wheezy until early next year, after that the lts team will take over which is likely to mean more delay on updates and less popular or difficult to support packages not getting updated at all.
[7:49] <plugwash> There is also the question of what if any support the raspberry pi foundation will provide for their bits on wheezy once they move to jessie as their preffered distribution (something they really should be doing in the not too distant future, I need to bug eben about that).
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[8:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:10] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:25] <shiftplusone> diederik: ping?
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[10:27] <ChunkzZ> I have a 128gb micro sd card, it's file system is ext4. my pi 2 won't reconize it. I have tried to format it to fat/fat32 but still, nothing. am I doing something wrong???
[10:27] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ: do you have a link to the instructions you're following?
[10:28] <ChunkzZ> I got it from google
[10:28] <shiftplusone> specifically
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[10:28] <ChunkzZ> 1sec
[10:29] <shiftplusone> the pi has a boot process which expects certain things which you can't just 'guess', so I am curious about how you're formatting it.
[10:29] <shiftplusone> and what you're putting on it once you do
[10:30] <shiftplusone> and why you're formatting it yourself in the first place... so many questions.
[10:30] <ChunkzZ> yeah, the green and red light stays on. doesn't boot :(
[10:30] <ChunkzZ> I tried different tools to format it to fat/fat32 and used win32disimager and nothing...
[10:31] <ChunkzZ> tried noobs to, simple copying and pasting...
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[10:31] <ChunkzZ> what should I be doing shiftplusone ?
[10:31] <shiftplusone> Okay, so lets pick one method and stick with it... hang on.
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[10:31] <ChunkzZ> remember, its 128gb and exfat
[10:32] <shiftplusone> well there's your problem
[10:32] <shiftplusone> you can't use exfat. exfat is not fat
[10:32] <shiftplusone> it doesn't matter what the size is
[10:33] <shiftplusone> the spec just says it should be exfat over a certain size, but there's nothing in the hardware to enforce that limitation or any reason to have it in the first place.
[10:33] <ChunkzZ> so I can't use it?
[10:33] <shiftplusone> You can
[10:34] <ChunkzZ> it doesn't boot though..
[10:34] <diederik> shiftplusone: yes?
[10:35] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ: because you're using exfat when you should be using fat
[10:35] <ChunkzZ> so what should I format with? sdformatter doesn't let me chose
[10:35] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ: https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/installation/noobs.md
[10:35] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/installation/sdxc_formatting.md
[10:36] <ChunkzZ> yes I've tried that
[10:37] <shiftplusone> you've tried that second link?
[10:37] <shiftplusone> If you tried it, why are you saying you can't format it at fat (after also saying you formatted it as fat). That page suggests multiple tools you could try.
[10:40] <shiftplusone> diederik: do you have a link to your kernel module compiley thing?
[10:40] <diederik> https://github.com/diederikdehaas/cknow.org/blob/master/rpi/compile-kernel-module-on-raspberrypi.md
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[10:41] <shiftplusone> Thank you kindly
[10:41] <diederik> yw
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[10:46] <ChunkzZ> sorry, back. it needs to be fat32 shiftplusone ?
[10:48] <shiftplusone> as the documentation says
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[10:50] <ChunkzZ> let me try brb
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[10:53] <ChunkzZ> shiftplusone, it still doesn't work -.- the green AND red light stay on and nothing...
[10:56] <ChunkzZ> I done what that site said...
[10:58] <shiftplusone> You've given conflicting information before so I don't actually KNOW what you have or haven't done. What I do know is that if you follow the instructions carefully, it DOES work.
[10:59] <shiftplusone> (Unless something else is horribly wrong)
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[11:01] <diederik> I have not followed the discussion, but could it be that his sd card 'just' doesn't work with the Pi?
[11:01] <diederik> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[11:03] <shiftplusone> I haven't come across such cards. There are cards which are problematic, but none that just flat out refuse to do anything.
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[11:03] <shiftplusone> Maybe I'm wrong on that one.
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[11:03] <shiftplusone> (that link is bad.... very bad)
[11:05] <shiftplusone> It's a list of unverified claims from individuals who may or may not know what they're doing about potential issues which may not exist at all or may have been fixed since the time they tested.
[11:06] <diederik> You're likely right. I just recalled that page existence
[11:07] <shiftplusone> Indeed... and it was a handy guide in the early days
[11:09] <zGrr> yes. nonetheless RPi is very picky about the sd cards.
[11:10] <diederik> ChunkzZ: What have you put on your SD card and how did you put it on it?
[11:11] <shiftplusone> zGrr: why do you say that?
[11:12] <zGrr> shiftplusone: there are many sd cards, raspberry pi is having problem with, that works just fine with other devices.
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[11:12] <shiftplusone> (I know about the issues with the samsung evo line line and we've been sent another samsung card which was also problematic... but that's about all that we could verify to be problematic now)
[11:13] <shiftplusone> plus there is a new sd card driver using a different peripherals which hasn't been 'switched on' yet, which seems to resolve the known issues, AIUI.
[11:13] <shiftplusone> *peripheral
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> diederik, copied and pasted noobs
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> brb
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[11:15] <zGrr> I have several cards that either do not work with RPi at all, or producing errors. same cards do work fine with RPi in usb card reader.
[11:15] <diederik> That doesn't sound like a proper procedure ...
[11:17] <shiftplusone> zGrr: got a link to where you bought them from?
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[11:18] <ChunkzZ> diederik, I'm copying and pasting noobs. still not working shiftplusone I done exactly as said in that link?!?!?!
[11:18] <ChunkzZ> it just shows a green light and red light and does nothing?!
[11:19] <shiftplusone> which says "you didn't do the right thing". However..... you also said you tried win32diskimager
[11:19] <shiftplusone> that's the simplest way
[11:19] <shiftplusone> let's stick with that
[11:19] <shiftplusone> then we can be sure you didn't do anything wrong
[11:19] <ChunkzZ> yeah I tried win32
[11:19] <shiftplusone> When you use win32diskimager, do you use the .img file or the .zip file?
[11:20] <ChunkzZ> I used the img file from raspexn
[11:20] <diederik> ChunkzZ: follow the procedure as detailed on the raspberrypi.org download page.
[11:20] <shiftplusone> I don't know what raspexn is
[11:20] <zGrr> and there is no verified compatibility list. it is safest to buy cards sold in shops specializing in RPi stuff.
[11:20] <diederik> Copy and paste is NOT the right way
[11:20] <shiftplusone> diederik: it is for noobs.
[11:21] <ChunkzZ> shiftplusone, so I should use win32?
[11:21] <shiftplusone> diederik: for NOOBS, you just format it as fat32 and extract the files to the card... I guess 'copy and paste' could mean he just moved the zip file over, which isn't the right way, but that's not what the instructions say to do.
[11:22] <ChunkzZ> I moved ALL the files from the zip to the sd card...
[11:22] <shiftplusone> win32diskimager is a good approach because then we know that you're not doing anything wrong if you use the .img file (NOT THE .ZIP FILE!)
[11:23] <shiftplusone> with NOOBS, there is a larger number of mistakes that could be made.
[11:23] <ChunkzZ> shiftplusone, with noobs, in the zip file, what .img do I use with win32?
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[11:24] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ: extract it from here http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[11:24] <zGrr> ChunkzZ: or you might have dodgy card reader in your PC
[11:25] <ChunkzZ> it's my laptop zGrr
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[11:25] <shiftplusone> a laptop is a pc, for the purpose of the discussion.
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[11:26] <ChunkzZ> that link is a zip file shiftplusone
[11:26] <shiftplusone> that's why I said 'extract'
[11:26] <ChunkzZ> extract? you just told me to use win32?
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[11:26] <shiftplusone> I am going to murder you, ChunkzZ ! XD
[11:27] <shiftplusone> STEP 1: EXTRACT THE .IMG FILE FROM THE .ZIP FILE!
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> oh
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[11:27] <ChunkzZ> with win32?
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[11:27] <shiftplusone> You're trolling me, right?
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> no
[11:27] <zGrr> ChunkzZ: I have Lenovo laptop with the card reader i don't trust and don't use to write cards for the Pi. I use usb reader instead, or even a modem with microsd socket. I had some problems on the pi with cards written in that lenovo builtin reader and same card worked fine when written in the usb reader.
[11:28] <diederik> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md
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[11:28] <ChunkzZ> I only have this laptop to use zGrr
[11:28] * shiftplusone tells self "get away from the irc channel..... get away from the irc channel" *twitch*twitch*
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[11:29] <zGrr> ChunkzZ: try tu use usb reader with this laptop.
[11:29] <shiftplusone> (but no I am not seriously angry or anything, so don't take us to be unhelpful jerks)
[11:29] <ChunkzZ> zGrr, I am
[11:30] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ: do you understand that ZIP files contain other files? That zip file I gave a link to contains the .img file. What you want is that .img file.... to get it, you extract it from the .zip file. NOT using win32diskimager.
[11:30] <diederik> ChunkzZ: If you have downloaded the zip file, extract it and then you should get an .img file
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[11:30] <shiftplusone> Once you've done that THEN you use win32diskimager
[11:30] <shiftplusone> with that .img file
[11:30] <ChunkzZ> yeah I get it now, sorry.
[11:30] <diederik> Then write that .img file using the instructions in the link I posted earlier
[11:34] <ChunkzZ> trying now.
[11:36] <ChunkzZ> just extracing the zip to get the img then gonna use win32
[11:36] <diederik> yes, that's the proper way
[11:37] <Merko-> Anybody know why i got this black bar on the right of this screen? http://i.imgur.com/xucIYFP.jpg is there any way to fix that? :F
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[11:38] <shiftplusone> Merko-: our of curiosity, what's that display?
[11:38] <Merko-> http://www.ebay.com/itm/171850769125?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[11:39] <shiftplusone> thanks
[11:40] <Merko-> the display works fine with another raspberry pi image though
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[11:43] <chris_9988> hi
[11:43] <chris_9988> could somebody help me with a samba share permission problem ? i have been trying to fix it with online resources but i´m getting nowhere....
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[11:49] <ChunkzZ> shiftplusone, still, solid red and green light. doesn't boot.
[11:49] <ChunkzZ> I done everything that I should of...
[11:52] <ChunkzZ> oh well, I give up.
[11:54] <shiftplusone> Sorry for the bad first impression of the pi
[11:54] <ChunkzZ> 1sec, let me show you something...
[11:54] <ChunkzZ> if i can get it to load
[11:54] <ChunkzZ> lol#
[11:54] <shiftplusone> But it may very well be that the sd card reader in your laptop is problematic (relatively common problem)
[11:55] <ChunkzZ> I don't have another to try :(
[11:55] <diederik> could it be a power issue?
[11:55] <ChunkzZ> it works with other sd cards...
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[11:55] <shiftplusone> diederik: not if the red LED is on and it's a b+ or a pi2
[11:55] <diederik> ah ok, thanks
[11:55] <ChunkzZ> it's a pi 2
[11:56] <shiftplusone> and even with power issues, you expect it to start booting at least
[11:56] <shiftplusone> and usually hang when the kernel derps while loading things
[11:56] <ChunkzZ> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261200195510?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301632640990?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
[11:56] <ChunkzZ> I bought them two ^
[11:57] <ChunkzZ> you think I should go and get a card reader ?
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[11:57] <ChunkzZ> I can get 1 right now...
[11:57] <shiftplusone> give it a go
[11:58] <ChunkzZ> but the thing is, other sd cards works!
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> well... there goes all my talk of it being very unlikely that the sd card itself was somehow incompatible.
[11:59] <shiftplusone> If you're willing to send the non-working card in, that might be interesting to take a look at. Unless it's just a knock-off.
[12:01] <zGrr> there are plenty of fake SDs on internet auctions.
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[12:52] <ChunkzZ> what's the link shiftplusone for the other tools?
[12:54] <ChunkzZ> nvm
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[13:05] <ChunkzZ> stupid thing still didn't work -.- I guess that's what I get for buying it cheap :P thanks for ALL your help though!!!!!
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[14:20] <Hured> I am not able to connect my wifi to internet. I am using LB-Link. I have also tired EDUP EP-N8531 USB Adapter. The problem is very unique. I am using D-Link DSL-2750U wifi ADSL2 router. The problem is that my wifi route is unable to provide IP to either of my above said adapter. So, I configured a static IP. I am able to putty to that static IP but I am neither able to ping 192.168.1.1 nor to 8.8.8.8. I have also unchecked "Enable Mul
[14:20] <Hured> So, I also attached ethernet cable to my Pi. Ethernet is able to get IP from modem and I am able to connect to the net. My modem is able to provide IP to all other wifi devices except my raspberry Pi on which I have tried LB-Link and EDUP adapter. Can anyone guide me what is the issue.
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[14:25] <holstein> Hured: i would look at dns settings, if you are manually configuring the connection
[14:26] <Hured> yes
[14:27] <Hured> give me 5 minutes. I have shut down the pi and checking the wifi adaptor on my old laptop
[14:27] <holstein> so, make sure, where you configure the static IP, if you think thats what your router needs to provide internet to the pi, that you are setting dns there, as well
[14:27] <holstein> unless you can pull the adapter from the latop, and put it in the pi, i dont think thats going to help
[14:28] <Hured> yes, I am testing the adapter on my laptop
[14:28] <Hured> give me some time
[14:28] <holstein> so, you are taking the adapter, that seemingly wasnt working in raspian on the pi, and moving it to a laptop.. i understand
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[14:29] <Hured> yes, but its working on pi, except that I am not able to ping to 192.168.1.1 and unable to access the internet.
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[14:30] <Hured> though I am able to putty to pi from my new laptop, which is connect to the same wifi modem to which my pi is connected.
[14:33] <holstein> right.. but, you state, it was *not* working on the pi, and you set it to a static connection.. static IP.. otherwise, it wouldnt get an ip from the router.. you should also try and configure DNS, becuase, i would expect to need to provide that as well
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[14:33] <holstein> you *should* be able to "putty" to it.. which means, you are able to make an ssh connect to the static ip route you configured.. which, i would expect to work, even if dns was not setup properly
[14:33] <Hured> yes, that's connect, my modem was not able to give it a ip, so I configured it static
[14:34] <holstein> Hured: right.. so, in the process of creating a static IP configuration, *also* give it dns information
[14:34] <holstein> 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 for example
[14:35] <Hured> I have just connect to my pi
[14:36] <Hured> tell me which details should I give you from my pi
[14:37] <holstein> Hured: give me? i dont need any.. i would literally just look at whatever method you used to create the static route, and see that you also provide dns information
[14:37] <Hured> I have already given the DNS IPs in resolv.conf
[14:37] <holstein> if not, i would expect it to not be able to find anything, since, you are not giving it a way
[14:38] <holstein> Hured: i would double check that..
[14:38] <Hured> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 4.2.2.2
[14:39] <Hured> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp allow-hotplug wlan0 auto wlan0 #iface wlan0 inet dhcp iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wpa-ssid "mymodem" wpa-psk "passwd"
[14:40] <Hured> holstein: is there anything wrong in these output?
[14:40] <holstein> Hured: i do not know your network, friend, so, i cannot say
[14:41] <holstein> Hured: what do i do? i simply navigate to my wifi ssid, input password, and DHCP gives my pi an ip address.. though, i do use wired networking most of the time
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[14:42] <Hured> holstein: can you give me the the wifi adaptor details which you know work with raspberry pi 2?
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[14:43] <holstein> Hured: not for your networking configuration, friend.. its different than ming
[14:43] <holstein> Hured: and, i didnt make a "special" one.. i literally navigate, and connect.. no special config needed
[14:45] <Hured> holstein: I believe there is some issue or comparability issue with my adaptor and wifi device.
[14:46] <Hured> *compatibility
[14:46] <holstein> could be
[14:48] <Hured> surprisingly, both the adaptor are behaving in the same way. both use my wifi and I am able to putty them from my laptop when connected through wifi, but, pi is not able to ping to 192.168.1.1. Earlier I though that the adaptor was creating ad-hoc connections, but
[14:48] <Hured> when I switched off my wifi, I was disconnected.
[14:49] <holstein> "putty to them" just means, you are able to connect, via ssh, to that machine
[14:49] <holstein> by ip
[14:49] <Hured> so, even though the adaptor is using wifi, it is not able to ping wifi ip, and this is very strange to me.
[14:49] <holstein> yes.. very strange, but, i do not know that adapter, or, router..
[14:49] <Hured> able to connect to pi
[14:50] <holstein> how about this.. you are able to connect to the ssh server.. on whatever device that is.. in this case, a pi
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[14:52] <UsecAgo> [Question on system time, ntp and RTC] A system gets connected to internet and ntp adjusts the system time ¿when does it set that time in the RTC for having it ready in a next offline reboot?
[14:52] <Hured> my pi and laptop are connected to wifi. I am able to connect to pi using ssh from laptop, I am able to ping to 192.168.1.1. through my laptop, but I am not able to ping to 192.168.1.1 through pi. If I connect my laptop to ethernet, I am not able to ping to pi IP address.
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[14:53] <holstein> Hured: sounds like, you could have some sort of isolation setup on the router..
[14:53] <Hured> yes, there is "Enable MultiAP Isolation". But I have disable the same.
[14:53] <UsecAgo> [Question on system time, ntp and RTC] A system gets connected to internet and ntp adjusts the system time ¿when does it set that time in the RTC for having it ready in a next offline reboot?
[14:54] <Hured> and if this isolation is still enabled, I would not be able to connect to my pi when its on ethernet. But I am able to.
[14:54] <holstein> Hured: i would confirm that, or, test with another router, since, you seem to be having issues, specific to your networking hardware
[14:55] <Hured> I have a strong belief, that by chance both my adaptors are not compatable to my d-link wifi.
[14:55] <holstein> Hured: sure.. but, "beliefs" dont effect hardware, unfortunaetly ;) you just have to actually test for that.. by isolating
[14:56] <holstein> Hured: what would i do? either connect to another router, as a test.. or, try another adapter with the pi, and those adapters with other OS's.
[14:56] <Hured> are you aware of any adaptor you have tested and is working and which is available for online purchase?
[14:58] <holstein> Hured: what i do is look for linux support, specifically, and save my paperwork, and make sure i can return.. i'll by locally so that i can easily return, or, test in-store with a laptop
[14:58] <Hured> since you are not using either of the hardware, you will not able able to help much in this except that if you can share the adaptor and wifi details you have tested and is working fine.
[14:58] <holstein> Hured: i just have the stock broadcom one that shipped with an older pi, but, the chipsets can change, at anytime.. so, even a model# is not going to be helpful for you
[14:59] <holstein> unless it says on the box "we support the linux kernel", then, you will need to try, and see how it works.. or, research chipsets, and try and find someone that publishes that..
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[14:59] <diederik> UsecAgo: I don't know, but I think on shutdown
[15:00] <Hured> okay,
[15:01] <Hured> holstein: Thanks for your time. I have to think what to do next to resolve this issue.
[15:01] <diederik> Hured: http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/ is generally a good site to figure out linux support for devices
[15:01] <Hured> diederik: Thank you
[15:01] <holstein> it wont hurt.. just keeping in mind that, chipsets change
[15:01] <diederik> yw
[15:02] <holstein> when a post says "the wifiX model7 wifi adapter works flawlessly with kernel 2.6".. there are several issues
[15:03] <holstein> if the wifiX model7 company creators promise windows support, then, if they change the chipset, which happens often, all they have to do is provide a windows driver.. and, one chipset could support linux well, and the other, not at all
[15:03] <diederik> lsusb will give you a device ID, always use that to search for (driver) support
[15:03] <holstein> so, you could see posts talking about how that model is the best, but, when you get around to having it shipped to you, its a different rev, and/or, chipset
[15:04] <holstein> yup.. lspci, and lsusb work *great*..but, you have to have the device.. which is what i choose to do.. just get the thing, and try it
[15:04] <Hured> In my case, I am able to connect to pi through wifi, that means the device is working. the only problem is that pi is not able to ping 192.168.1.1 and thus inable to access internet.
[15:04] <Hured> also unable to obtain IP address from wifi dhcp.
[15:05] <holstein> Hured: well, in your case, you are unable to connect *2* wifi adapters to your specific router, properly.. i dont think you can assume, from that, that its not something to do with the router, yet, or config
[15:06] <holstein> it certainly can be both wifi adapters, and both wifi adapters not supporting linux well.... but, it could be the router, as well
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[15:13] <negev> hi, i'm trying to access my raspi using vnc. it's a fresh install of raspbian, i've started up a tightvnc server, but when i log in i can see a grey section at the top of the screen continuously appearing and then disappearing. i suspect it's trying to load a menu application and failing. any suggestions on where it might be logging to? thanks..
[15:13] <holstein> shouldnt be trying to load anything.. should just connect to an already loaded desktop
[15:14] <holstein> can you connect a screen, and make sure the desktop is loaded? can you simply ping the devices from each other? etc?
[15:15] <negev> well i've configured it not to start x on boot
[15:15] <holstein> negev: cool.. are you running x now? in order to connect to an x session?
[15:15] <negev> so the only instance of x that's running is the one that tightvnc started
[15:16] <holstein> otherwise, you probably want something more like x2go, or nomachine.. AFAIK, vnc is for connecting to sessions already running...
[15:17] <negev> so why does tightvnc start a new x server then?
[15:18] <holstein> i wasnt aware that it did.. and would think that the issue
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[15:19] <holstein> what i have used it for, is remote connecting into an already running desktop. when i want to, say, have a headless server, or, remote server, and basically "forward" a desktop, not connecting in and controlling an existing one, i dont use VNC.. but, another tool.. x2go is the newer one i was looking into
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[15:26] <Merko-> Hm.. So i got this 7" Display for my PI that is 800x480. but the raspberry PI wont show anything else other than 640x480. anybody got an idea what can be the issue? When i run the normal Wheezy image, the only option is 640x480 or Auto. auto doesnt help :(
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[15:36] <negev> so the problem is that lxpanel is failing to load and continuously restarting
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[16:04] <tompalr> hi everyone
[16:04] <tompalr> i've plugged my raspberry pi in to my modem but it won't show up as a connected device
[16:05] <tompalr> does anyone know why that'd be?
[16:05] <Slabdabs> have you also turned it on? :p
[16:07] <tompalr> ha, yep
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[16:12] <Slabdabs> well than i don't know what to tell you, i don't know shit about the RPi, just use it for OSMC and RetroPie haha
[16:12] <Slabdabs> but i'm sure someone around here will stop being afk and can help you out
[16:13] <tompalr> hmm np thanks
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[16:23] <tompalr> all i'm trying to do is find out the pi's ip address
[16:24] <Slabdabs> Using the terminal (boot to the command line or open LXTerminal from the desktop), simply type hostname -I which will reveal your Pi's IP address.
[16:24] <Slabdabs> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/troubleshooting/hardware/networking/ip-address.md
[16:24] <tompalr> ah
[16:25] <tompalr> i should have said...i don't have a keyboard or mouse
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[16:26] <Slabdabs> it also gives you a method on there to check connected devices to your router, but i guess that was part of the problem
[16:26] <Slabdabs> can't snag one form a computer?
[16:26] <Slabdabs> from*
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[16:29] <Slabdabs> that or start with 192.168.0.1 ..... 192.168.0.2
[16:29] <Slabdabs> haha
[16:34] <tompalr> do i need to install an operating system on the pi first? i installed volumio and it said to plug it in to the modem and then it should be working. i couldn't access it from my computer so i tried to find the ip address from the connected devices to the router, but there's nothing connected apparently!
[16:34] <tompalr> so i'm a bit stumped
[16:36] <diederik> how could you install volumio if there was no operating system?
[16:37] <tompalr> as in i whacked it on to the sd card
[16:37] <tompalr> is volumio an operating system?
[16:37] <diederik> physically?
[16:38] <tompalr> umount on the terminal then i dragged and dropped?
[16:38] <tompalr> how they say on the volumio website basically...
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[16:39] <diederik> It looks to be an OS by ifself ...
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[16:41] <diederik> you said you connected it to your modem. Is that also a router?
[16:41] <tompalr> aye it is
[16:42] <diederik> and that has some kind of (web) interface in which you can see connected devices, but you're not seeing the Pi. Right?
[16:43] <diederik> With 'nmap' you can ask a list of devices on the network, but I have no idea whether that works on windows
[16:43] <diederik> On my adroid phone I also have an app 'Fing' which can do a similar thing
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[16:45] <tompalr> i'm using ubuntu
[16:46] <tompalr> also, yes, there is an interface i can use to see connected devices (or a lack of connected devices)
[16:46] <diederik> nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24
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[16:48] <tompalr> won't nmap just do the same role as the interface i can already access?
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[16:49] <diederik> could be
[16:49] <tompalr> but thanks anyway
[16:52] <diederik> what are you asking here anyway if you're not using raspbian. Go to volumio support and let them fix your issue
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[16:57] <tompalr> fair enough
[16:57] <tompalr> i don't know many other pi irc channels
[16:57] <tompalr> but sound thanks for all the help everyone
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[17:59] <Merko-> Any recommendations for 9-10" RPI touchscreens out there? :)
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[19:03] <DelphiWorld> yo
[19:03] <DelphiWorld> i am runing latest raspbian with kernel 3.18, runing rpi-update saying the modules are from 4.1. should i update?
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[19:12] <diederik> depends on what problem you're trying to fix
[19:12] <DelphiWorld> diederik: want to upload to latest firmware
[19:13] <diederik> because?
[19:13] <DelphiWorld> setting up v4l
[19:13] <DelphiWorld> uv4l
[19:14] <diederik> and that doesn't work (good enough) with the 3.18 kernel?
[19:14] <DelphiWorld> diederik: i dont want to update the kernel, but want to update the hardware drivers & firmware
[19:14] <diederik> (imo ppl upgrade their kernel/firmware often without a good reason)
[19:14] <DelphiWorld> recomanded by uvc4l
[19:14] <diederik> drivers are part of the kernel
[19:15] <DelphiWorld> then what rpi-update do?
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[19:15] <diederik> that would make sense then, yes
[19:15] <DelphiWorld> so no problem with it?
[19:15] <diederik> keep in mind that if you have custom kernel modules, they won't work automatically
[19:15] <DelphiWorld> nope
[19:15] <DelphiWorld> i'm using everything stock
[19:16] <diederik> that's the trade-off _you_ have to make.
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[19:16] <diederik> It may work perfectly, but it also may break things. Using rpi-update is experimental
[19:18] <diederik> making a backup first seems like a good idea none-the-less ;)
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[19:18] <DelphiWorld> haha
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