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[1:46] <dev_> hello, I have a question regarding pppd with GPRS connection on raspbian.
[1:46] <dev_> what is the best way to make my PPP (GPRS) connnection always enable/active like a WiFi connection.
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[3:08] <redcheckers> how do i tell what version i am under of raspbian, or how it matches up to the testing/stable branches of regular debian?
[3:12] <knda> guess you'd try cat /etc/*release
[3:13] <redcheckers> release! that worked, thank you knda
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[3:13] <knda> no worries
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[6:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:01] <M`vy> Morning :)
[9:02] <lordievader> o/
[9:02] <M`vy> \o
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[10:05] <freezevee> hi all, can anyone help https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/issues/54 ?
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[10:52] <tiblock> Hi. I want to buy Raspberry Pi 2 version B and i have question. I have micro USB power supply with 5V 2000mA, but the problem is that it have +5V on OTG pin (not ground, but +5V). Is that okay?
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[11:25] <Sos> tiblock, you mean the pinout is not standard?
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[11:41] <Sos> what's a dirty way of doing whil(!pressed_random_key)
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[11:55] <Sos> https://twitter.com/Sosowski/status/634332255238930432
[11:58] <lordievader> Nice, couple of motion sensors?
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[12:27] <tiblock> Sos, only OTG pin is wrong. On OTG cabble it connected to groung, on chargers not connected at all, but i have it connected to +5V
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[12:30] <Sos> wth is otg
[12:30] <Sos> USB has gnd, vcc d+ and d-
[12:30] <Sos> vcc goes to vcc, gnd gors to gnd, shield to gnd and d+ is wired together with d- on a charger, but that only to fool apple phones
[12:31] <Sos> you can have a cap between d+ adn d- too iirc
[12:31] <Sos> or d+ and gnd... i suck at these things
[12:31] <Sos> you can also burn the port to the groundif you follow my advice
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[12:49] <xxavi> hi
[12:49] <xxavi> from my Raspbian I can not make a ping to any devices in my LAN, why ?
[12:49] <lordievader> Is it connected?
[12:50] <xxavi> lordievader: yes, via ethernet cable to my router
[12:50] <lordievader> xxavi: DHCP or static ip?
[12:50] <xxavi> lordievader: hmmm, by default Raspbian configuration
[12:51] <lordievader> xxavi: Ok, so dhcp. Could you pastebin the output of 'ip a' and 'ip r'?
[12:52] <xxavi> lordievader: yes, wait, I try it
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[13:03] <tiblock> Sos, you can google micro usb pins, there is 5 pins. +5V, data+, data-, mode (OTG), ground. And i have ID/mode/OTG pin connected to +5V
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[13:05] <Sos> i don't think the Pi uses the OTG pin
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[13:05] <Sos> http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/35462/why-does-micro-usb-2-0-have-5-pins-when-the-a-type-only-has-4
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[13:06] <Sos> connected to +5 is wrong according to this
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[13:08] <tiblock> Sos, it is wrong. Manufacturer of device made it so if you buy new charger not from him then device will say that this is wrong charger and you need buy new one from manufacturer
[13:08] <tiblock> and will not charge
[13:08] <Sos> what is the device?
[13:09] <tiblock> it is tablet PC (is it correct name?)
[13:10] <Sos> as win Windows 8 tablet?
[13:10] <Sos> but what brand?
[13:10] <Sos> i wanto avoid that :P
[13:10] <tiblock> noo its very old android device that broken long long time ago, i don't remember what is brand, is not popular brand
[13:10] <Sos> oh opk
[13:12] <tiblock> by the way i ordered rasperry pi 2 B and is will be in my hands in few hours. Never saw it before
[13:12] <Sos> it looks exactly like B+
[13:12] <tiblock> i mean never saw in real life
[13:13] <tiblock> never saw any of raspberry pis
[13:14] <tiblock> hope playing with it will be more fun than using ArchLinux on home PC
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[13:30] <xxavi> lordievader: ( sorry for my delay ), here: http://pastebin.com/BfGih8GL
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[13:51] <lordievader> xxavi: And you cannot ping 192.168.1.1?
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[13:53] <xxavi> lordievader: yes
[13:54] <xxavi> lordievader: sorry, I can ping 192.168.1.1
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[13:54] <lordievader> Right, as I figured. What is the problem then?
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[13:55] <xxavi> lordievader: I can not ping to any devices on my LAN, like 192.168.1.41
[13:56] <SCDias> lordievader: firewall on 192.168.1.41?
[13:56] <xxavi> SCDias: not, 192.168.1.41 is FreeBSD machine
[13:57] <lordievader> xxavi: Can you ping that from other machines?
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[14:00] <xxavi> lordievader: yes, I try it now from my Android devices
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[14:00] <lordievader> Is arping installed on your pi, by any chance?
[14:01] <xxavi> lordievader: I have fresh new installation of Raspbian, I don't know now; I will be install it ?
[14:02] <lordievader> If it ain't available, please do.
[14:02] <xxavi> lordievader: ok, I try it now
[14:03] <xxavi> lordievader: done, I have it now
[14:06] <lordievader> xxavi: Okay, run 'sudo arping -c 3 192.168.1.41', does it resolve to a mac address?
[14:08] <xxavi> lordievader: yes
[14:08] <lordievader> xxavi: Okay, so it is most likely a firewall. Do you have a firewall running anywhere?
[14:08] <xxavi> lordievader: no
[14:09] <lordievader> Can you ping other hosts on your network, besides the gateway.
[14:09] <xxavi> lordievader: from pi no, only Internet address
[14:09] <lordievader> You can ping nothing in your local network?
[14:10] <xxavi> lordievader: from pi correct
[14:10] <lordievader> What does 'sudo iptables-save' return?
[14:11] <xxavi> lordievader: any line return
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[14:12] <lordievader> What?
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[14:13] <xxavi> lordievader: when I try 'sudo iptables-save' I don't get any line of any return message
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[14:15] <lordievader> Hmm, guess that is okay then.
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[14:15] <lordievader> xxavi: Is your arp table populated (command: arp)
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[14:15] <xxavi> lordievader: I will be try 'sudo arp' only ?
[14:16] <lordievader> No need for sudo this time.
[14:16] <xxavi> lordievader: ok, I try it now
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[14:20] <SCDias> lordievader: try reboot the router or the switch
[14:20] <xxavi> lordievader: look it please: http://pastebin.com/jkLEGJL6
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[14:22] <SCDias> lordievader: Who is dhcp on the network? ping it from pi
[14:22] <lordievader> SCDias: DHCP ain't the problem.
[14:23] <lordievader> xxavi: Did you try to ping other things in your network?
[14:23] <xxavi> lordievader: yes, from pi not work
[14:24] <lordievader> xxavi: What did ip addresses did you ping?
[14:26] <xxavi> lordievader: my LAN now is: http://sprunge.us/DSgV
[14:28] <lordievader> xxavi: So wich of those ip addresses did you ping?
[14:29] <SCDias> you have two diferents mac with the same ip 41. correct this and try ping again
[14:31] <lordievader> Ohh, nice spotting ;)
[14:32] <SCDias> =)
[14:33] <xxavi> lordievader: all, look it please: http://pastebin.com/H9shJwGz
[14:34] <lordievader> I agree with SCDias, fix your ip numbering first.
[14:34] <lordievader> It's a mess.
[14:34] <xxavi> lordievader: how ?
[14:34] <lordievader> xxavi: Configure the dhcp.
[14:34] <xxavi> lordievader: router DHCP ?
[14:36] <lordievader> "c4:6e:1f:61:7e:56" holds 4 ip addresses, 192.168.1.41 is owned by 2 mac adresses, 192.168.1.39 is owned by 2 mac addresses
[14:36] <lordievader> xxavi: Likely, yes.
[14:36] <xxavi> lordievader: ok, I try it now
[14:37] <SCDias> xxavi: Try put static ip outside DHCP pool to avoid this things
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[14:51] <tiblock> yay, got mine raspberry
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[16:45] <Romme> is there an up to date manual on how to build kernel modules in raspbian?
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[16:49] <shiftplusone> Romme: could give this a go https://github.com/diederikdehaas/cknow.org/blob/master/rpi/compile-kernel-module-on-raspberrypi.md
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[16:50] <plugwash> any progress on jessie?
[16:50] <Romme> thanks
[16:50] <shiftplusone> plugwash: hey
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[16:55] <shiftplusone> plugwash: not much lately. I've been thrown at some Sense HAT work this week. Still waiting for external contributors, but I'll try to dedicate next week to getting the repo into a sensible state for minimal images.
[16:56] <shiftplusone> well, I think it is in a sensible state for minimal images, it's the GUI stuff that's a mess right now.
[16:57] <plugwash> AIUI the big issue is the hacked up version of ephiphany/webkit
[16:57] <plugwash> and also sonic pi (though I haven't seen a demo of what if anything the problems with that are)
[16:58] <shiftplusone> It is, but that's on collabora's end. I still need to sort out all of Simon's new changes
[16:58] <plugwash> is that understanding correct? also what exactly is the issue with sonic pi?
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[17:00] <shiftplusone> Sonic Pi stuff is up to Sam. If I recall correctly, at a minimum, it needs to be rebuilt against jessie versions of some libs. Sam would also like to switch to Qt5 and is now finding performance problems when running sonic pi for jessie on the pre-pi2 models.
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[17:01] <plugwash> is that just a "built against jessie libs" version that is having the performance problems?
[17:01] <shiftplusone> I don't know, I only got a vague email from him about it this morning. Leaving it up to Simon and him since I have too much on my plate right now.
[17:03] <shiftplusone> (so you understand the dynamic, I only do the packaging, manage the repo and roll the images, Simon actually decides what goes in and so on)
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[17:05] <shiftplusone> Considering dropping by this debian event you guys have in Cambridge... seems like something that would make sense for me to attend.
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[17:06] <ShorTie> being a bit and l00kin for knowldge is always a good thing
[17:07] * plugwash tries to remember who simon is.....
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[17:08] <shiftplusone> plugwash: the guy who put the panel at the top of the screen.
[17:08] <shiftplusone> (the ui guy)
[17:08] <plugwash> :/
[17:09] <plugwash> shiftplusone, yeah, unfortunately the high rankers don't hang out on irc so I can't bug them here
[17:10] <plugwash> so I bug you in the hope you will bug them
[17:10] <shiftplusone> plugwash: it's a fairly flat structure here, so if you want me to pass something on, Simon is only a few steps away.
[17:11] * ShorTie thinkz, or a paper ball
[17:11] <shiftplusone> If the bugging is just "get jessie sorted!" then... yeah, that's already high up on the priorities list and there is an internal timeline.
[17:12] <tiblock> I have quiestion. If raspberry 2 succesfully loads from SD card then green light will blink? Currently i power it on and red light goes off in about half of second and only red light stays. But i know that i can have problems with that SD card, it is not very good.
[17:13] <tiblock> "red light goes off" i mean green light.
[17:13] <plugwash> on a normal boot with the raspberry pi foundation kernel the red light should stay on solid and the green light should blink
[17:13] <shiftplusone> tiblock: the red LED goes off? that shouldn't happen at all and would point to a power problem. Under normal condition, the green LED will flicker while reading from the SD card. It will remain on if the sd card is not found or does not contain the firmware where it's expected to be.
[17:13] <tiblock> plugwash, ah, thank you. Now i know what it should do
[17:14] <tiblock> shiftplusone, that was my mistake. It is green
[17:14] <plugwash> green light should go out/only blink occasionally once fully booted
[17:14] <plugwash> sounds like the firmware has loaded successully but the kernel hasn't
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[17:20] <tiblock> also when SD card correctly writed, is it able to be mounted in x64 linux?
[17:21] <plugwash> yes you should be able to mount the partitions on the card on another linux system
[17:23] <tiblock> plugwash, thank you
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[17:39] <plugwash> shiftplusone, yeah the bugging is mostly "get jessie sorted"
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[17:51] <aib> I want to build a kernel module. Is there a package which would help me with that, i.e. provide me with headers?
[17:51] <shiftplusone> aib: I'd recommend looking at this for now https://github.com/diederikdehaas/cknow.org/blob/master/rpi/compile-kernel-module-on-raspberrypi.md
[17:52] <aib> shiftplusone: those guides all tell me to download the WHOLE kernel source, and from an external repository. Can't I use linux-image-headers or something?
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[17:54] <aib> hmm ok, I've found linux-headers-3.18-trunk-all
[17:54] <tiblock> nice. I have fake SD card, it says its 8gb, but really there is 2.1gb
[17:54] <shiftplusone> the short answer to your question is 'no'.
[17:55] <shiftplusone> The slightly longer answer is 'depends on what kernel you're running'
[17:55] <aib> I'd rather use a kernel to match whatever headers package I have available
[17:56] <aib> is there an easy way to change the boot kernel version? RPi simply uses files on the FAT partition, IIRC. So it's not as easy as installing linux-image-whatever on my PC and updating grub. Are there tools to update the initrd etc. though?
[17:58] <TheLostAdmin> aib, you can define the kernel to load in the config.txt file.
[17:59] <aib> ah, that's better. Are the packaged kernels ready to be used in such a way?
[18:00] <aib> and by packaged kernels I mean those in the main repository, e.g. linux-image-42.42-rpi
[18:02] <TheLostAdmin> I haven't really played with it much. I think so. What I have figured out so far is that the FAT filesystem (usually mounted as /boot) is somewhat like the BIOS and boot sector of a PC.
[18:02] <shiftplusone> yes, but support is much more limited since a lot less people use those
[18:02] <aib> great.
[18:02] <TheLostAdmin> I haven't tried yet, but I think it can be configured to load the kernel from a TFTP server and mount root via NFS.
[18:03] <aib> by the way, I downloaded a linux-image-headers package and did make -C /lib/modules/${downloaded-version}/build M=${module-source-dir}
[18:03] <aib> got a ko, no idea if it'll work though
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[18:14] <aib> (no, of course, it disagrees about memory layout with the current kernel)
[18:15] <aib> however, I've now downloaded the linux-image package matching the linux-headers I used to compile. I'll see if it boots soon
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[18:16] <aib> btw, the image package puts the vmlinuz, as well as a System.map, an initrd and the kernel configuration file in /boot, automatically
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[19:04] <tiblock> uhm, guys. Does RPi 2 B have WiFi built in?
[19:04] <Merko-> no
[19:04] <tiblock> ouch
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[19:05] <Merko-> http://no.farnell.com/productimages/standard/en_GB/2133900-40.jpg just buy this wifi dongle :)
[19:08] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't recommend that one
[19:08] <shiftplusone> it munches on the CPU cycles
[19:08] <Merko-> it works fine for the small things i have used it for
[19:09] <shiftplusone> it works fine, it's just not the best choice, since it can have a performance hit, especially on the older pi models
[19:09] <shiftplusone> and you won't get the full speed out of it before the CPU is at 100% on the pre-pi2 models. Don't know what it's like on the pi 2.
[19:11] <lordievader> I like it that it supports master mode :)
[19:11] <lordievader> Rarely use it with the Pi though...
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[19:25] <mah454> Hello
[19:25] <mah454> I have a raspberry PI version 1 B+
[19:25] <mah454> Can compile C Programs with armhf for this ?
[19:26] <shiftplusone> yup
[19:27] <mah454> so i do that but not work !
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[19:27] <mah454> after run application receive : no such file or directory !!!!!!
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[19:28] <shiftplusone> need a lot more information
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[19:31] <diederik> aib: that article is (still) a work in progress.
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[19:32] <diederik> For a more efficient way to download 'kernel headers' for the raspberrypi.org kernels, see this post: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=790803&sid=91897866336004a32e8a596376cd22a8#p790803
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[19:43] <tiblock> I'm curious. What "poweroff" command will do? Will it power off raspberry?
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[19:44] <shiftplusone> tiblock: 'man poweroff'
[19:45] <tiblock> shiftplusone, easier just to try when i finally make mine work
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[19:50] * ShorTie thinkz, it will stop cpu action, but not actually turn it off
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[19:51] <shiftplusone> No, on wheezy it will turn it off just fine
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[19:52] <aib> diederik: I see, thanks. Well, the Pi crashed doing a shallow fetch of the repo and I think the FS is damaged. It'll be a while before I can post an update
[19:52] <shiftplusone> well, same as shutdown -h now or systemctl halt... but yeah, it won't cut the power or anything, since that's not possible.
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[19:53] <ShorTie> only way to power off a rpi is to pull the plug
[19:53] <diederik> aib: ok, good luck with that. I'll try to finish the article in the not too distant future
[19:54] <shiftplusone> but when it's 'halted' it's off enough
[19:54] <shiftplusone> barely draws any current
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[20:40] <hadi> Hi guys. I know this is not a channel for supporting windows, But I'm trying to see what's happening with my micro sd card.. I want to rewrite raspbian to my micro sd card, but windows doesn't show my micro sd anymore after the previous operation by win32 disk imager
[20:41] <hadi> Last time it worked, I booted my pi, but now that i want to format the card and reinstall, The card is not showing up in windows at all
[20:41] <hadi> When i put the sd card into the pi it boots up properly though
[20:43] <holstein> well, it would seem like a bad card, but, you can always download a linux live distro, and do what you like with the card.. something live with gparted, for example
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[20:44] <SCDias> hadi: And try https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ but be sure if the right drive is select and don format anything else
[20:44] <SCDias> dont*
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[20:45] <hadi> Thanks guys. I'll try this program first, then I'll have a fedora vm that i could install Do you think that'd have enough tools to do something with the card?
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[21:30] <Pat__> Hi
[21:30] <Pat__> Someone speak German?
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[21:35] <Sos> https://twitter.com/Sosowski/status/634477723063332864
[21:35] <Sos> \o/
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[21:37] <altin> anyone worked with RPi and an LCD and had issues with gibberish text showing up ?
[21:37] <Sos> i did and nope!
[21:37] <Sos> What kind of LCD do you have?
[21:37] <Sos> SPI?
[21:37] <altin> i have a 16x2 LCD screen using Adafruit library
[21:37] <Sos> are you using FBTFT?
[21:37] <Sos> oh that kind
[21:37] <Sos> then nope
[21:41] <altin> hmm
[21:41] <altin> anyone else?
[21:42] <TheLostAdmin> not me. I have a couple of spare 16x2 LCD panels that I was thinking of trying to connect to the Pi but I haven't even figured out what else I need yet.
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[22:16] <niston> well
[22:17] <niston> when gibberish shows up on my serial LCD its usually due to synchronization problems or simply a wrong command byte
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[22:17] <niston> if you dont have multiple threads writing to a single display, you can probably rule out sync problems
[22:18] <niston> (assuming that the serial parameters are all correct eg 11500N81)
[22:19] <niston> missing 0 there but u get the point
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[23:44] <Creak> Hello!
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[23:47] <Creak> I'm trying to make Kodi works and I've got almost everything working except for some videos (codecs?). They are encoded in H.264 with AC-3. Other video in H.264 without AC-3 are played back fine, so I suspect this is an AC-3 problem... I activated the passthrough, but I still can't play these videos. Is there something I missed?
[23:48] <Creak> I tried to find a solution on internet for 2 days, but it seems that I'm the only one having this problem.. :(
[23:48] <Creak> I got a raspberry pi 2
[23:49] <Creak> right now my HDMI cable is directly linked to my TV that don't have AC-3 decoding, but I guess it's not really a problem, right?
[23:49] <Creak> I should at least see the image
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