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[0:59] <mi11k1__> hey does does anybody know about this USB overcurrent thing ?
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[1:24] <klem> millk1, I'm pretty new around here. What over current thing? Is something other than shutdown supposed to happen when you attempt to draw too much current?
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[3:43] <mah454> Hello
[3:43] <mah454> How can i debootstrap raspbian for make own linux distro ?
[3:43] <mah454> I want this for RaspberryPI B+
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[3:46] <mah454> Sorry I disconnected
[3:46] <mah454> I ask : How can i debootstrap raspbian for make own linux distro ?
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[4:10] <sewardrobert> Does anyone know of a SD Image Writing Utility for Fedora other than dd and the like?
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[4:11] <ShorTie> what is the matter with dd ??
[4:13] <sewardrobert> I have an existing SD Card that I want to replicate / backup. The dd command doesn't seem to do it correctly. In otherwise after I copy the image, the replicated card does not boot.
[4:13] <sewardrobert> I am guessing it is a matter of passing the wrong arguments to the command.
[4:14] <sewardrobert> I seem to remember Fedora having a GUI image writing app, I thought that might be an easier route.
[4:14] <ShorTie> can you c/p the command your using maybe ??
[4:15] <ShorTie> bigest mistakes folks make is using a partition instead of the whole device
[4:15] <sewardrobert> I second..
[4:17] <sewardrobert> dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=raspian-20150820.img bs=1024
[4:17] <sewardrobert> As root.
[4:18] <ShorTie> you can not do a dd of a running sdcard
[4:18] <sewardrobert> And then to write the image to a new FAT32 SD Card. dd if=raspian-20150820.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1024
[4:18] <sewardrobert> sdram is pulled from the Raspberry PI. Commands are being executed from my Fedora laptop.
[4:19] <sewardrobert> Fedora 21 by the way.
[4:19] <ShorTie> ok, so your sure /dev/mmcblk0 is correct ??
[4:20] <ShorTie> it almost seems like most laptop sdcard slots are no good, a usb sdcard is well worth the investment
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[4:20] <sewardrobert> When I place the card into the laptop, /dev/mmcblk0 appears in dmesg output.
[4:22] <sewardrobert> I have an old Sandisk USB adapter. (8 years old). Anyway it went belly up 3 years ago. I have been using my laptop's sdram slot to relatively good affect for the last two years.
[4:22] <sewardrobert> I will try another laptop and see how that goes.
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[6:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[6:14] <mortdeus> morning
[6:21] <Sos> hey!
[6:25] <lordievader> o/
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[7:26] <M`vy> \o
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[9:53] <jubalh> hi
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[10:40] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:47] <Sos> yay midi interface works \o/
[10:47] <Sos> pthreads is too safe for my liking :P
[10:48] <Sos> it locks up when you fuck stuff up
[10:48] <Sos> if you use mutexes... that is
[10:48] <Sos> perhaps it's my code that's troo safe....
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[11:54] <alexbucuresti> it s possible to instal a server vpn on pi?
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[12:09] <Odie_> I think the only question is performance
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[12:14] <at0m|c> Odie_: and depending on your connection, LAN throughput
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[12:38] <jubalh> but using rpi as a vpn client and putting it before my other computers so they dont have to register separately should work fine right?
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[12:44] <Odie_> jubalh: performance is the limiting factor
[12:44] <Odie_> doing crypto may or may not be good thing for the rpi
[12:44] <Odie_> i'm 100% sure that performance is fine for many applications with vpn
[12:45] <Odie_> not sure if it's on yours, easiest way is to set it up and see if you think its fast enoough
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[13:52] <mi11k1__> is there anybody here?
[13:52] <mi11k1__> or there?
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[14:39] <alexbucuresti> do you have anyone pi?
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[16:08] <tplacp> hi
[16:09] <tplacp> weird question. is the raspberry pi durable enough (in your opinion) to handle being in a bag pocket while I skateboard for about 25 mins?
[16:09] <tplacp> it'd just be in the original box. nothing plugged in.
[16:09] <shiftplusone> the sd card might pop out
[16:10] <shiftplusone> oh... if it's not running and is in a box, yeah, it should definitely be fine.
[16:10] <tplacp> okay cool, thanks a lot
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[16:10] <shiftplusone> I know some people throw them bare into their bags packed with books and then the pins end up all bent and shorted.... so don't do that.
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[16:48] <tiblock> Is raspbian is most popular and best supported OS for raspberry?
[16:48] <tiblock> like is it good for noobs?
[16:48] <shiftplusone> yeah
[16:49] <tiblock> another question, is this channel only about OS or questions about raspberry itself allowed?
[16:50] <shiftplusone> Don't know, I am not op here. I haven't seen anyone complain about general questions.
[16:50] <tiblock> okay, thank you
[16:50] <shiftplusone> But #raspberrypi would be more appropriate. It requires you to be identified on freenode though (/msg nickserv help)
[16:50] <tiblock> ah thank you
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[17:59] <Lolocafera> Hello folks
[18:01] <Lolocafera> is it possible to connect an Android smartphone to a Raspberry Pi 2 running Raspbian "Jessie"? I can't find any tutorial about it. They're all based on "Wheezy" tools.
[18:01] <Lolocafera> Oops, I meant through Bluetooth, shouldn't have left that out.
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[18:31] <Lolocafera> is it possible to connect through Bluetooth an Android smartphone to a Raspberry Pi 2 running Raspbian "Jessie"? If so, how? I've been trying to find online documentation for about two days.
[18:34] <shiftplusone> Lolocafera: tried this? https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser
[18:35] <SCDias> Lolocafera: Is this help? http://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/17841464-bluetooth-installing-and-using-bluetooth-on-the-raspberry-pi
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[18:39] <Lolocafera> shiftplusone, I'm gonna give it a try.
[18:40] <Lolocafera> SCDias, my Raspberry Pi is headless, so that tutorial is totally useless to me. But thanks for trying.
[18:41] <Lolocafera> shiftplusone, bluetooth-agent is unavailable on Jessie, it would seem
[18:43] <shiftplusone> my findings seem to agree
[18:45] <Lolocafera> Has Rasbian Jessie still "unstable" status? I may have made a mistake by upgrading, if so.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> complicated question
[18:46] <shiftplusone> jessie is stable and raspbian has supported it for ages
[18:47] <shiftplusone> the foundation (mostly me in this case) is lagging behind and hasn't released a jessie image yet.
[18:49] <Lolocafera> ... I don't remember where I found the upgrade instructions. I /think/ it was on the raspbian.org wiki, but I'm not quite sure.
[18:49] <shiftplusone> https://vk5tu.livejournal.com/54182.html ?
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[18:50] <Lolocafera> page can't be found
[18:51] <Lolocafera> ah, found it, it was on linuxconfig.org
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[18:54] <SCDias> Lolocafera: It is possible to start grafic throug ssh. http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/
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[18:55] <SCDias> Lolocafera: or more easy you can install xrdp and access with no other app in windows
[18:56] <Lolocafera> SCDias, interesting. I'll try to find something similar for Debian
[18:56] <shiftplusone> Lolocafera: "If bluetooth-agent is not available, try bluetoothctl" ?
[18:56] <shiftplusone> SCDias: if you're running debian on your desktop, you can just ssh with the -Y parameter to get x11 forwarding going. xming is just a windows xserver
[18:57] <shiftplusone> sorry... that was aimed at the wrong person
[18:58] <Lolocafera> Mmmmh, I'll give it a try. bluetoothctl gives me a weird result.
[18:58] <SCDias> shiftplusone: I was thinking in windows pcs... =)
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[19:00] <Lolocafera> it gives me a weird [bluetooth]# prompt, that doesn't seem to accept any input, and that I have to stop with ^c
[19:01] * shiftplusone shrugs
[19:01] <shiftplusone> I don't see much of a point of bluetooth, so I haven't really played around with it in a long time
[19:01] <shiftplusone> have you considered using something like airdroid instead?
[19:01] <shiftplusone> or... is there a specific applications here that needs bluetooth?
[19:02] <shiftplusone> (actually, the airdroid suggestion would probably be terrible on the pi, nvrm)
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[19:02] <Lolocafera> Well, I was starting to wondering this, too. My idea is to be able to carry my RP around, powered with an external battery, and use my smartphone as a terminal.
[19:03] <Lolocafera> I assumed Bluetooth was the way to go, but I may be wrong.
[19:03] <shiftplusone> I'd use a wifi AP on the phone or on the pi... whichever battery allows more.
[19:04] <Lolocafera> then I should set up my pi to be a server, setting up its ssid and a wpa2 key, right?
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[19:11] <Lolocafera> mmmh, as I expected, using ssh -Y from a CLI doesn't exactly launch any GUI.
[19:11] <Lolocafera> should I install a curses based interface?
[19:14] <shiftplusone> using ssh -Y doesn't launch a GUI, it forwards X11 for when you do. So if you run xterm or something, it should open xterm.
[19:14] <shiftplusone> the ui will probably be all ugly until you set things up using gtk-chtheme though
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[19:18] <Lolocafera> well, the ui is inexistant, even through xterm
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[19:18] <shiftplusone> think we might be talking about different things when we talk about the ui then.
[19:19] <Lolocafera> well, right now I only have a CLI
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[19:22] <Lolocafera> plus, what use would be a GUI without a keyboard nor a mouse?
[19:23] <Lolocafera> no, wait, that last one was a brain fart
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[19:35] <Lolocafera> Anyway, I'm okay with doing things through a CLI. I'm just kinda lost in the labyrinth of commands.
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> isn't that the definition of not being okay with doing things through the CLI? =P
[19:39] <Lolocafera> not exactly. The environment of commands is kinda new.
[19:39] <Lolocafera> the problem is I can't find any documentation.
[19:40] <shiftplusone> Documentation? In the open source community? Kind sir, are you lost? (Sorry, I'm not very helpful right now)
[19:43] <Lolocafera> it reminds me of an old project: WTFM. A community of half-assed tech folks and competent technical writers whose main goal would be to harrass developers of open-source projects so they give thorough enough specification so WE could write the user documentation they can't bother to deliver.
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[19:46] <shiftplusone> Debian is generally pretty good in this regard.
[19:46] <shiftplusone> Not like Arch, but still very good.
[19:48] <Lolocafera> oh, yeah, main distributions are usually not too bad. But if you take something like XFCE, for example... I was trying to do a simple thing, but couldn't find how. I asked online, I've been told to RTFM, to which I answered to WTFM.
[19:48] <shiftplusone> heh
[19:49] <Lolocafera> I had spent two days trying to find out how to do that thing.
[19:50] <shiftplusone> what was the thing?
[19:53] <Lolocafera> In XFCE there is (or used to be) a little prompt you could put in the menu bar so you could directly launch command lines without having to open a terminal. After a wrong manipulation, I added a second one, and couldn't find how to remove it. There were mentions in the wiki that a way to do that through the GUI would be added in a future version, but they couldn't be bothered to explain how to do it *without* the GUI in th
[19:53] <Lolocafera> e mean time.
[19:54] <shiftplusone> hm
[19:55] <Lolocafera> I ultimately found out which configuration file I had to edit manually, but I found that lack of documentation bothersome.
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[19:58] <Lolocafera> I've seen plenty of interesting projects that faltered for lack of growing a user base, which I think is largely due to a lack of documentation, especially for tools aimed at non-tech people.
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[20:04] <shiftplusone> true
[20:05] <shiftplusone> And when you do try to make your project accessible, you have a bunch of snobs insulting the newcomers. I don't like the elitist "we should make things hard so that people who can't figure it out leave and don't ask us questions" attitude some people have.
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[20:08] <Lolocafera> It's not the sole problem. Take the Gimp, for example. I think an obstacle for a larger adoption is that its public is mainly artists, who aren't majoritarily competent to develop the plug-ins they'd need. And the ones who could develop said plug-ins are generally poorly aware of the real needs of said artists.
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[20:09] <shiftplusone> Wonder how blender got over that hurdle
[20:10] <Lolocafera> Because animators are generally more tech-savvy than 2D graphic artists, maybe?
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> hmm
[20:12] <shiftplusone> idk, I remember using it about 5 years ago and it had the same 'UI designed by programmers' problem.
[20:12] <shiftplusone> but maybe you're right and since it uses python, it's a lot easier for people to jump on-board.
[20:12] <Lolocafera> Also, its documentation is very thorough, and has been aimed at final users from the start.
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[20:13] <Lolocafera> Since it's been initially created inside an animation studio.
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[20:14] <shiftplusone> Oh, didn't know that.
[20:15] <shiftplusone> But I do remember it wasn't very user friendly at one stage. It was mostly shortcut driven, but I guess that's what experienced 3d artists would want anyway.
[20:16] <Lolocafera> come to think of it, Blender being made free was an early example of crowdfunding.
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[20:21] <Lolocafera> The company that made it was facing bankruptcy, and Blender was an asset to be seized in the process. The team prefered to make it GPL, though, so they set up a fund and asked for donations to the community. The goal was reached in less than a week. The excess was used to create the Blender Foundation.
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[20:22] <Lolocafera> It was /years/ before kickstarter existed.
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[20:24] <shiftplusone> That's awesome
[20:25] <shiftplusone> I feel that kickstarter hasn't been that much of a force for good
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[20:38] <Lolocafera> here's the story. Okay, it wasn't as quick as I said it was, but it was impressive for the time : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29#History
[20:40] <Lolocafera> Now, if you'll excuse me, it's getting late, and I need to give a shot at having a social life.
[20:41] <shiftplusone> overrated
[20:41] <shiftplusone> (says the guy at the office at 10pm on a friday XD)
[20:41] <shiftplusone> have fun
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[23:04] <MrPink_> hello
[23:05] <shiftplusone> hey
[23:05] <MrPink_> I am completely new to the raspberry pi world. I have it hooked up to my monitor and am having an issue with the hdmi. I am not getting fullhd resolution...
[23:06] <MrPink_> I have googled the issue and found some suggestions to edit the config.txt but doing that made the screen be cut off on the top and left (menu being cut off etc.).... any ideas?
[23:07] <MrPink_> When I check the Monitor settings the max resolution isn't 1920x1020 allthough the monitor and afaik the pi are capable of full hd...
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[23:17] <shiftplusone> MrPink_: sorry, was afk.
[23:17] <shiftplusone> I'd use tvservice to determine the supported modes
[23:17] <shiftplusone> then use that mode in config.txt
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