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[6:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[8:07] <jay_s_uk> morning all
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[8:09] <jay_s_uk> anyone free to help me with a camera module?
[8:09] <jay_s_uk> issue
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[8:18] <Odie_> just describe the issue and see
[8:18] <jay_s_uk> i have a camera module that works on a raspberry pi 2 but not on a raspberry pi b original
[8:18] <Odie_> you enabled it on both?
[8:18] <jay_s_uk> the module worked fine on the 2 with a virgin raspbian image, but using the same image, it does not function on the original pi
[8:18] <jay_s_uk> i did
[8:19] <jay_s_uk> it just says that it can't find it
[8:19] <Odie_> you connected it to the right connector? I once connected it to the wrong one :)
[8:19] <Odie_> iirc there is two where it fits
[8:19] <jay_s_uk> its connected to the one between the hdmi and ethernet port and the blue side of the cable is facing the ethernet port
[8:20] <Odie_> I cant remember which one is the right one
[8:21] <jay_s_uk> well asssuming that nothing changed when they made the pi 2, its connected to the same port
[8:21] <Odie_> other than that + the raspiconfig enable, I don't know
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[8:23] <jay_s_uk> ok
[8:27] <DoctorD90> hello guys. If i make a live debian arm custom image, it would not boot in rpi, rigth? ...how boot a distro from rpi? :)
[8:28] <lordievader> DoctorD90: The Rpi v2 B model can boot Debian arm images.
[8:28] <lordievader> For the older models you need to make an image for the armv6 core (IIRC).
[8:30] <DoctorD90> 1. rpi2 a(it seems to me that it has been released, but i may wrong) can too? 2.in which way? alwyas and only from sdcard, or from usb too? 3.may i ask you a little more about old version?
[8:31] <lordievader> Pi's can only boot from the sd card.
[8:31] <lordievader> Just ask ;)
[8:33] <DoctorD90> so both a and b model v2 may boot an iso-arm dd-ed on a sd card? without special boot settings?
[8:34] <lordievader> Is there a v2 model a?
[8:34] <lordievader> But yes, dd the image over, put the sd card ino the pi and boot up.
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[8:38] <DoctorD90> as i said, i dont remember well about a v2 :P it is just a memory.... about model v1? if i chroot an arm env, how may i put it on an image able to be booted from models v1?
[8:39] <lordievader> DoctorD90: Look at the original raspbian images ;)
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[8:41] <DoctorD90> ok, but i mean: im learning about create iso for normal pc systems, creating boot sector, etc...on rpi? just a simple partition with boot flags?
[8:42] <Odie_> take official image and look at it and experiment
[8:42] <lordievader> DoctorD90: That is why I said to look at the raspbian image, it holds all the answers ;)
[8:42] <Odie_> I think there is fs with config.txt which will contain the boot information
[8:43] <lordievader> Yes, there are two partitions in the image, one fat32 with the kernel and some config files and a ext4 filesystem with the rest of the system.
[8:43] <DoctorD90> no, i asked just to be sure that is so simple :P and about all "extra" settings like new tree option to use gpio and other rpi's feature? how i have to do in chroot env?
[8:44] <DoctorD90> Odie_: sure, but im config there are "now" also very specific/great settings for rpi :)
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[8:48] <DoctorD90> i dont know how to use/implement them :P
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[11:06] <ChunkzZ> when I try and open "web browser" on raspbian jessie, it opens and auto closes. what am I doing wrong?
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[11:14] <ChunkzZ> when I try and open "web browser" on raspbian jessie, it opens and auto closes. what am I doing wrong?
[11:17] <at0m|c> ChunkzZ: try starting browser from terminal, read errors there as it closes
[11:17] <ChunkzZ> I've tried to remove it and install it again. and tried a reboot too.
[11:17] <ChunkzZ> how do I do that at0m|c ?
[11:18] <at0m|c> i don't know what terminal is available, since i don't run a desktop on my pi
[11:18] <at0m|c> look in the menu for console, terminal
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[11:18] <ChunkzZ> lx terminal because I'm on raspbian
[11:19] <ChunkzZ> lxde*
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[11:19] <at0m|c> ok open it and start browser from there
[11:20] <ChunkzZ> how?
[11:20] <ChunkzZ> open terminal, done, how do I start it from the terminal?
[11:21] <ChunkzZ> at0m|c, ?
[11:21] <at0m|c> /usr/bin/epiphany-browser or just epiphany-browser
[11:22] <ChunkzZ> yeah there's a massive error
[11:23] <ChunkzZ> can I pm you the error? I don't wanna paste here and get banned...
[11:23] <at0m|c> use pastebin
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> I don't have an internet browser to use pastebin or I would..
[11:24] <at0m|c> oh
[11:24] <at0m|c> sudo apt install pastebinit
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> sec
[11:24] <at0m|c> then epiphany-browser > pastebinit
[11:25] <at0m|c> that will post your console output to pastebinit and return a link
[11:25] <at0m|c> if it's only the last 30 lines or so, epiphany-browser | tail -n30 > pastebini
[11:25] <at0m|c> t
[11:26] <ChunkzZ> http://pastebin.com/cvFLf8nL
[11:29] <at0m|c> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&p=611178
[11:29] <at0m|c> there's also console browser, w3m
[11:29] <ChunkzZ> I can't see ^ that link?
[11:29] <at0m|c> w3m is pretty basic but will let you read the page
[11:30] <ChunkzZ> what is that link?
[11:32] <at0m|c> they suggest to "apt search libsecret" then "apt show libsecret-$yourversion (i run testing)
[11:32] <at0m|c> if it's not installed, install it, sudo apt install libsecret-$yourversion
[11:32] <at0m|c> if it is, reinstall it
[11:33] <ChunkzZ> cannot locate package?
[11:33] <ChunkzZ> sudo apt install libsecret-$yourversion < exactly like that?
[11:34] <at0m|c> apt search libsecret cannot locate?
[11:34] <ChunkzZ> no the install
[11:34] <at0m|c> replace $yourversion with the version apt search libsecret returns
[11:35] <at0m|c> ie, here, libsecret-1-0
[11:36] <ChunkzZ> sec
[11:38] <at0m|c> if that doesn't fix it, run "grep gpu_mem /boot/config.txt" and make sure you set enough gpu memory (128MB?)
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[12:03] <ChunkzZ> at0m|c, I can't see no gpu mem and now epip isn't in my start meny?
[12:03] <ChunkzZ> menu*
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[12:04] <at0m|c> did libsecret install ok?
[12:04] <ChunkzZ> yeah
[12:04] <at0m|c> epiphany-browser's disappeared from start menu? for now, start it from console then.
[12:04] <at0m|c> see if that solved the segfault
[12:05] <ChunkzZ> omg! same error.
[12:05] <at0m|c> dbus might need a restart, not sure
[12:05] <at0m|c> log out and in again might be simplest way
[12:05] <at0m|c> afaik that'll restart it
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[13:09] <pere> if you got raspian installed, can you run "apt-cache show sonic-pi|grep Filename" in a terminal and let me know what you get?
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[13:35] <hhmmm> Filename: pool/main/s/sonic-pi/sonic-pi_2.6.0-1_armhf.deb
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[15:09] <KB3VGW> hey guys having a issue. I updated the raspbian nox nightly from wheezy to jessie
[15:10] <KB3VGW> and then when done I ran a install with our script
[15:10] <KB3VGW> and iti nstalls network-manager
[15:11] <KB3VGW> but now the issue is only happening on the raspbian img is that its failing to run the dhclient from network manager
[15:11] <KB3VGW> I can run it manauly from prompt and it gets a ip
[15:11] <KB3VGW> we use network manager for better ontrol of networking
[15:12] <KB3VGW> is there plans to get a official raspbin jessi img out
[15:13] <KB3VGW> for the pi-2
[15:13] <KB3VGW> as the current img is still wheezy based
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[15:23] <KB3VGW> makes no sense why the interface is not coming up
[15:29] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3124611
[15:29] <at0m|c> KB3VGW: not using any *Managers, but afaik if interfaces has an $adapter it will be left alone by NetworkManager
[15:29] <KB3VGW> thats the status ooutput
[15:29] <KB3VGW> it seems not to run the dhclient like it should
[15:31] <KB3VGW> root@Set-This-1-repeater:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) # Include files from /etc/network/interfaces.d:
[15:31] <KB3VGW> the interfaces file is only this now
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[15:32] <KB3VGW> its working fine on normal debian installs
[15:32] <KB3VGW> but its failing on the raspbian
[15:32] <KB3VGW> we are working on the openrepeater project and peopel wanted the raspbian img used for the pi-2 boards
[15:34] <KB3VGW> I can post the img I updated that works and then you can run our install script
[15:34] <KB3VGW> if anyone wanys to test
[15:35] <KB3VGW> but even after the install with out network-manager the network interface stops responding
[15:35] <KB3VGW> for no reason
[15:35] <KB3VGW> been figting this for 4 days
[15:35] <KB3VGW> figt/fight
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[15:37] <KB3VGW> I also fing they mod the raspbian img alot
[15:37] <KB3VGW> like moving /var/run to /run and linking it
[15:37] <KB3VGW> this is wrong
[15:37] <KB3VGW> lacme with the /var/run/lock dir
[15:37] <KB3VGW> I dont see why
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[15:48] <KB3VGW> is there plan to have a jeesie img
[15:48] <KB3VGW> for raspbian
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[16:02] <jakllsch> KB3VGW: i believe i've heard that's on the agenda
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[16:06] <KB3VGW> just surprised that its not already done as the pi-2 has been out for awhile and Jessie is almost 9 months old
[16:06] <KB3VGW> but ok
[16:07] <KB3VGW> I managed to update the wheezy to jessie
[16:08] <KB3VGW> http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/
[16:08] <KB3VGW> this is the img I updated
[16:08] <KB3VGW> but the only part breaking is the network
[16:09] <KB3VGW> just trying to get what oeople want
[16:10] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3124611
[16:11] <KB3VGW> just to show that the network-manager is not running the dhclient
[16:11] <KB3VGW> like it should and I dont find out why
[16:13] <KB3VGW> I can dd a img and post it if anyone wants to try and help
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[16:19] <KB3VGW> I mean I have a complete install other then this networking issue that has come up
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[16:20] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3124693
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[16:21] <teclo-> evening, I downloaded and installed https://images.collabora.co.uk/rpi2/jessie-rpi2-20150202.img.gz on my Raspberry Pi 2, but I'm looking for the user/password...
[16:21] <KB3VGW> it is generatingthe interface but not running dhclient it seems
[16:22] <KB3VGW> as I recall its debian/raspberry
[16:22] <KB3VGW> or raspberrypi
[16:22] <KB3VGW> do note that img does not have any of the raspbian tools on it
[16:23] <KB3VGW> its a very basic img
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[16:30] <pere> hhmmm: thank you very much. I finally found it under <URL: http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/s/sonic-pi/ >.
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[17:33] <tiblock> Since #raspberrypi is all about raspbian and software installation, i will asc about raspberry here. Can someone please look at script? Made first script, but afraid to launch, is it safe and correct? http://pastebin.com/SyfReRQF
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[17:37] <teclo-> Finally found the l/p https://images.collabora.co.uk/rpi2/jessie-rpi2-20150202.img.gz it is root/debian
[17:37] <at0m|c> tiblock: GPIO R/W script?
[17:38] <tiblock> at0m|c, read only
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[17:39] <tiblock> I have read documentation here http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Home/ and made script
[17:41] <tiblock> Oh wait, heres more stuff to read http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/browse_pages/
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[17:49] <kb3vgw> sorry lost internet
[17:50] <kb3vgw> I am zipping a img and then I will upload it
[17:50] <kb3vgw> see if someone migh tbe able to fix the issue
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[18:01] <kb3vgw> uploading now.
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[18:09] <kb3vgw> anyof you guys using the pi-2 and a serial interface so if you pull the img you can get into it or via the hdmi . but I am lost as to why networking stopped working like it should
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[18:47] <kb3vgw> http://repo.openrepeater.com/raspbian/OpenRepeater-rasbian-jessie-nox-08-23-15.img.gz
[18:48] <kb3vgw> there is the img I built everything is working execpt the network interface is not comming up like it should
[18:48] <kb3vgw> if you login and do a dhclient eth0 it comes up with a ip
[18:48] <kb3vgw> so if anyone can help with the fix and point it out it would help
[18:48] <kb3vgw> its for the pi-2
[18:50] <kb3vgw> ssh is root/OpenRepeater for the min. I enabled it for easier access
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[19:00] <kb3vgw> I am also putting up the updated no-x raspbian jessie img
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[19:09] <kb3vgw> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=111144 this is also where you can get full/minimal wheezy nightly builds
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[19:12] <kb3vgw> http://repo.openrepeater.com/raspbian/rasbian-jessie-nox-08-22-15.img.gz
[19:15] <kb3vgw> just give you guys a headstart on a jessie img
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[19:21] <Deepspeed> mmi
[19:22] <kb3vgw> ?
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[20:08] <kb3vgw> http://repo.openrepeater.com/raspbian/OpenRepeater-rasbian-jessie-nox-08-23-15.img.gz anyone with a pi-2 able to help trouble shoot this img and figure out why it fails to get a ip even though there is a etho network interface
[20:09] <kb3vgw> its a complete install but for soemreason it would run the dhclient and get a ip like it should
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[20:10] <kb3vgw> its driving me up a wall
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[20:11] <kb3vgw> it fully works other then 1 issue
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[20:24] <kb3vgw> http://pastebin.ca/3125124
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[20:29] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
[20:29] <ansik> Hey all!
[20:30] <ansik> I'll get right onto it (since I obviously have a question), I "need" sim-card and NFC for my PI, planning on using these products
[20:30] <ansik> https://www.adafruit.com/products/364 and https://www.adafruit.com/products/1963
[20:30] <ansik> both need the 3,3v GPIO connector, will that be a problem?
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[20:36] <kb3vgw> well the simcard is easy you can use a usb wwan dongle
[20:37] <kb3vgw> the nfc you can use usb or gpio
[20:37] <ansik> the 3,3v isn't needed for the simcard?
[20:37] <kb3vgw> you mounting this on a board ?
[20:37] <ansik> Uh, no, mounting it a bit away from the board
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[20:39] <kb3vgw> hmm
[20:40] <ansik> A guide told me to connect "Fona VIO" to 3,3V on the pi but I read closer now and it tells me "Note that this wiring will force FONA to stay active all the time the Raspberry Pi has power."
[20:40] <ansik> So I assume it's not actually drawing power from there, just making sure it's on
[20:42] <kb3vgw> not played with nfc units yet
[20:42] <kb3vgw> on the todo
[20:42] <ansik> I'm... trying my hand on a home alarm system
[20:43] <ansik> I've barley touched this stuff before so it will be a challange
[20:43] <kb3vgw> like us building our repeater project and building our boards
[20:43] <ansik> :p
[20:43] <ansik> Nothings easy, aye
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[20:45] <kb3vgw> nope
[20:45] <kb3vgw> right now I am fighting a networing issue on a img we just built
[20:45] <kb3vgw> its killing me
[20:46] <kb3vgw> everythign else is working
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[21:18] <kb3vgw> http://pastebin.ca/3125204
[21:18] <kb3vgw> why is this acting like this
[21:18] <kb3vgw> grrr
[21:19] <kb3vgw> I cleared the logs and started the system fresh this i from syslog
[21:19] <kb3vgw> and its acting like there is a network issue with starting the device
[21:20] <kb3vgw> it keeps changing status
[21:26] <ansik> I'm back with a new question!
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[21:27] <ansik> What... voltages is the PI using logic?
[21:27] <ansik> "You should set the voltage to whatever voltage your microcontroller uses for logic"
[21:27] <ansik> or... how do I figure that out if you want me to learn myself?
[21:28] <kb3vgw> all our stuff is using 3.3v
[21:28] <ansik> awsome
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[21:37] <kb3vgw> this 1 issue is pissing me off
[21:38] <ansik> way out of my leauge :>
[21:39] <ansik> Say I need one of the GPIO like, several meters away. Do I need shielded cables or something ya think?
[21:40] <ansik> Like, 3-4 meters away
[21:40] <ansik> from the actually PI
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[21:41] <kb3vgw> you should always use shielded cables wher you can
[21:42] <ansik> I've got close to zero knowledge of like... low voltage systems (electian here, so I pretty much only know when to use what cable, in homes and shit you know), what type of cables should I be looking to use here?
[21:43] <kb3vgw> well get on and read
[21:43] <kb3vgw> you have to learn
[21:43] <ansik> Sure do
[21:44] <kb3vgw> I have spend 6 months working on our project and waiting on our first dev proto board
[21:44] <kb3vgw> to test
[21:44] <ansik> Thats a long time to wait
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[21:45] <ansik> or, wait no, you haven't waited 6 months, you're waiting now? :p
[21:48] <kb3vgw> yes the boards layout was sent on last monday
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[21:49] <kb3vgw> they say we will have boards in the next week
[21:49] <kb3vgw> we are getting 10 fully built boards
[21:49] <kb3vgw> each proto run has to be 10 boards at 3 bucks a board
[21:50] <kb3vgw> and then parts comes to about 15 bucks a board
[21:50] <kb3vgw> but we hand built our first proto and know it works do this is just the sm version
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[22:10] <kb3vgw> well I am fustrated
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[22:10] <kb3vgw> this makes no sens
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