#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-09-11

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[7:19] <lordievader> Good morning
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[7:37] <M`vy> gninrom dooG
[7:41] <lordievader> ;)
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[7:44] <giusboh> how can i recompile cura3 for raspberry?
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[8:04] <zGrr> moin :)
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[8:41] <lordievader> o/
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[9:38] <FlashSlayer> Hi. I connected RPI 2 this way: official power supply, USB keyboard, HDMI output to monitor (with HDMI->VGA adapter) and SanDisk Ultra SDHC class 10 (I copied official Raspbian image using dd command). After I power on the device, both diodes (red,green) are lighting and there is no image on screen
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[9:43] <giusboh> how can i recompile CURA3 for Raspian?
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[9:50] <ShorTie> i'd say it is all in that hdmi convertor
[9:50] <ShorTie> is it self powered ??
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[9:56] <FlashSlayer> ShorTie: when computer was connected to monitor with HDMI, it worked
[9:56] <FlashSlayer> ShorTie: the problem is that RPI doesn't boot
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[10:05] <ShorTie> does the green act light go blinky-blinky ??
[10:06] <ShorTie> what was the exact dd line you used ??
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[10:22] <FlashSlayer> ShorTie: it lights constantly (does not blink)
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[10:23] <ShorTie> ok, what was the dd line you used ??
[10:24] <ShorTie> was your of= a device or partition ??
[10:24] <FlashSlayer> ShorTie: dd bs=4M if=path/to/input.img of=/dev/sdb1
[10:25] <FlashSlayer> BTW HDMI-to-VGA connector won't probably work too
[10:26] <at0m> FlashSlayer: dd bs=4M if=path/to/input.img of=/dev/sdb
[10:26] <at0m> not sdb1
[10:26] <FlashSlayer> the sdcard was formatted before to FAT32 or EXFAT
[10:26] <at0m> or cp file.img /dev/sdb
[10:26] <ShorTie> of=/dev/sdb1 is wrong, that is a partition not a device
[10:26] <FlashSlayer> at0m: well, so I failed dd command
[10:26] <ShorTie> of=/dev/sdb is right
[10:26] <FlashSlayer> what to do next? should I format sdcard first?
[10:27] <ShorTie> no need to format it, dd does that
[10:27] <at0m> the img is a formatted disk
[10:27] <FlashSlayer> what if my sdcard is bigger than img? does dd format sdcard fully?
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[10:29] <at0m> FlashSlayer: it creates the first partition. the rest is up to you.
[10:29] <ShorTie> it will be ok, you can enlarge the root partition
[10:29] <FlashSlayer> at0m: read https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=83372&p=589714#p590662 answer 5
[10:36] <at0m> i'm more keen on saving on SD writes. i never format ahead, just cp src.img /dev/dest. i see no good reason... any partition table that was on the card/stick, gets overwritten for as long as the src.img goes. the remaining space becomes unused, initially.
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[10:47] <FlashSlayer> One more thought about sdcard. When I need to store my own files on it next to Raspbian system files (my file can be situated e.g. in /home/my_user), I need free space on sdcard. Don't I really need to format it fully before doing dd?
[10:47] <FlashSlayer> and what filesystem is used on Raspbian?
[10:49] <ShorTie> it uses fat and ext4
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[10:51] <ShorTie> and your files would be on the ext4 partition
[10:52] <ShorTie> the fat partition is only used to hold the kernel and files needed to boot the pi/kernel
[10:54] <ShorTie> the GPU by design can only read a fat partition
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[11:08] <FlashSlayer> ShorTie: well, so the .img contains FAT partition and what after boot? disk will be full?
[11:11] <FlashSlayer> I'm going to write .img again and what to do before?
[11:11] <ShorTie> the fat partition is around 50meg's, the image will have a gig or 3 or so of ext4, the rest of the sdcard will not be defined or used until you use like raspi-config to expand it to the full sdcard capacity
[11:11] <FlashSlayer> well
[11:11] <FlashSlayer> I will try
[11:11] <ShorTie> nuffin, just write it to the device not a partition
[11:12] <ShorTie> needs to be umounted too...
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[12:25] <Alvin07> Hi everybody
[12:25] <Alvin07> has anybody succeeded in building a bluetooth handsfree device using raspbian?
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[12:44] <FlashSlayer> It helped.
[12:46] <at0m> FlashSlayer: working now?
[12:46] <FlashSlayer> yeah
[12:46] <at0m> :)
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[13:16] <Karamofweb> Hi
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[16:35] <saraf> greetings, does chromium for the latest raspbian have an EME ClearKey implementation?
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[17:32] <mistawright> hi guys is there a .deb available for raspbian for a real time kernel?
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[19:26] <qtpi> evening, everyone.
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[19:28] <qtpi> i'm trying to sort out the driver for this wifi dongle. the apparently notorious mt7601 chipset.
[19:28] <holstein> these days, hardware is so cheap...
[19:28] <qtpi> that's details, though. i need the kernel headers. but i ran rpi-upgrade to upgrade to the 4.1.6 kernel.
[19:28] <qtpi> so i cloned it from the git repo.
[19:29] <qtpi> i'm not sure i placed the right files in the right folder to "make" the driver sources, though.
[19:29] <holstein> should be a "read me", or, documentation.. id make sure it supports my kernel version, etc..
[19:31] <qtpi> the driver? it says it does. i don't think that's the issue. not at this point at least. :)
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[19:32] <qtpi> so i copied the kernel/ folder to /lib/modules/4.1.6-v7+/build/
[19:32] <qtpi> the contents of it, i mean.
[19:32] <qtpi> tbh, i don't really know what i'm doing. :)
[19:33] <holstein> well, its not trivial.. its way more than i would be willing to do, when other wifi devices are so cheap..
[19:34] <holstein> i would make sure the driver supports the kernel, and just check that im using the kernel.. then, load the module
[19:34] <qtpi> true. i'm also seeing this as an exercise in linux.
[19:34] <holstein> well, is it though? its quite specialized.. it may "just work" in normal linux distros..
[19:35] <qtpi> it does with kernel 4.2 onwards. :)
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[19:35] <holstein> so, thats an option.. put that kernel on your pi
[19:36] <qtpi> isn't that more of an effort?
[19:36] <holstein> i dont know.. i mean, you have already upgraded a kernel, and are trying to add a module..
[19:37] <qtpi> i just ran rpi-update to update the kernel. not exactly pro work.
[19:37] <holstein> its still a kernel update..
[19:37] <qtpi> right. and how would you suggest updating the kernel to 4.2?
[19:38] <holstein> i would have to read something like this http://elinux.org/Raspberry_Pi_Kernel_Compilation
[19:39] <holstein> or, i would look for someone elses, and just use it..
[19:41] <qtpi> this looks more out of my league than compiling the driver, but maybe i can learn something useful still.
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[19:42] <holstein> loading the module that has the driver should work as well.. if it supports the kernel you are using, and ARM, and all that..
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[19:53] <diederik> qtpi: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/cknow.org/blob/master/rpi/compile-kernel-module-on-raspberrypi.md
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[19:54] <qtpi> thanks, diederik.
[19:55] <diederik> yw
[19:56] <diederik> note that it describes the procedure for 2 different situations; kernel installed through raspberrypi-bootloader and rpi-update. Pick the one which applies to you (rpi-update)
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[19:59] <diederik> this may come in handy too: https://github.com/porjo/mt7601
[20:00] <qtpi> well, i sure did get further. :)
[20:00] <qtpi> yeah i know that one, it forwards to https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u for 3.19+
[20:00] <qtpi> so that's what i'm using now.
[20:01] <diederik> excellent
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[20:03] <diederik> since you've just run 'rpi-update' you can use the '--depth=XXX' parameter and things should still work. It'll save you a BIG download
[20:04] <qtpi> i did. now it said "include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.
[20:04] <qtpi> Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.
[20:05] <diederik> This post contains some extra info which I (still) need to incorporate into my article: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=790803#p790803
[20:05] <qtpi> so i did that, ie make oldconfig && make prepare. is this right?
[20:05] <diederik> depends on what you want to do, but probably not ;-)
[20:06] <diederik> read (and follow) the instructions carefully
[20:08] <diederik> (make oldconfig && make prepare are usually used when you want to modify and compile the kernel itself)
[20:09] <qtpi> how long should i expect this to run?
[20:09] <diederik> define 'this'
[20:09] <qtpi> make oldconfig && make prepare.
[20:09] <qtpi> i had already started it before writing here.
[20:10] <diederik> Ctl+C aborts it ;-)
[20:10] <qtpi> i was afraid that might break something. ctrl c it is then.
[20:11] <diederik> No idea how long it will take. Compiling on a Pi 1 takes considerably longer then a Pi 2 for example
[20:11] <qtpi> i was looking for something like minutes/hours/days, really. :) no matter, i ctrl-c'd it.
[20:12] <qtpi> "minutes"/"hours"/"days" without a number, i meant.
[20:13] <diederik> compiling a whole kernel on a Pi 1 takes several hours to maybe a day
[20:13] <diederik> compiling a kernel _module_ on a Pi 2 is more likely to take minutes
[20:14] <qtpi> right, thanks.
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[20:31] <TheLostAdmin> does anyone know how to change the "shutdown" to "logout" on the GUI menu? I don't want to give users the option to shutdown from a menu; even if I am the only user.
[20:32] <TheLostAdmin> On a related note, is there an "empty trash" option for the trashcan?
[20:33] <TheLostAdmin> by the way, if anyone from the raspbian team is actually around, the GUI needs a few improvements. It's a big rough around the edges.
[20:33] <TheLostAdmin> s/big/bit
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[21:02] <notafads> anyone set up radius server ?
[21:05] <TheLostAdmin> not on the Pi and not since the 90's
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[21:16] <notafads> TheLostAdmin, what would you use instead of radius?
[21:17] <TheLostAdmin> it depends on why I wanted to use radius.
[21:17] <notafads> security?
[21:18] <TheLostAdmin> Radius is an antiquated protocol for network based authentication. I'm not sure what security you get from it that you don't have with local auth.
[21:19] <TheLostAdmin> if it's a windows environment, I would go with AD.
[21:19] <notafads> ad?
[21:19] <TheLostAdmin> If it's a UNIX environment I would probably go LDAP.
[21:20] <TheLostAdmin> If I don't trust the network, I would run LDAP inside SSL.
[21:20] <notafads> ill look into it thank you
[21:21] <notafads> just looking for an interesting project to help secure my network
[21:22] <TheLostAdmin> Ah, okay then go with what you want.
[21:22] <notafads> i was thinking wpa2 enterprise was the way to go
[21:23] <TheLostAdmin> that is a lot of configuration if you aren't running an enterprise wifi network.
[21:23] <TheLostAdmin> so ... is this home or office?
[21:24] <notafads> soho
[21:24] <TheLostAdmin> I would suggest WPA2 with a really long and ugly passphrase.
[21:24] <notafads> the problem is i got family here as well
[21:24] <TheLostAdmin> Optionally stealth the SSID (but be aware that doesn't buy you much)
[21:25] <notafads> with friends who need access when they come over
[21:25] <notafads> i started qr codes printed and NFC cards
[21:25] <TheLostAdmin> do you want per-user authentication?
[21:26] <notafads> well i was thinking that and maybe a guest network
[21:26] <notafads> just kinda learning about this stuff as i go
[21:28] <TheLostAdmin> We are way off the topic of raspbian at this point but you probably don't need much more than a good passphrase unless you have specific security concerns.
[21:28] <notafads> fair enough
[21:28] <TheLostAdmin> the next step would be a guest network. Which would mean guests couldn't see your internal servers, printers, etc.
[21:29] <notafads> already isolated
[21:29] <TheLostAdmin> Mostly even enterprises don't do per-user authentication for guests. They go with a guest network with a passphase that changes periodically.
[21:30] <TheLostAdmin> per-user auth for staff/internal people is a bit more common. At which point you might need radius but that can be done with an easy-to-set-up radius-to-AD server.
[21:31] <TheLostAdmin> On the up side, your original question about setting up a radius server was more appropriate than I first thought.
[21:31] <notafads> lol thanks?
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[21:32] <notafads> i was thinking to allow one SSID access and non- isolated incase i need access via wifi to servers
[21:32] <notafads> figured it might be interesting to build for fun
[21:33] <TheLostAdmin> build for fun is a good reason if it's more of a hobby. Build to learn is usually a good idea too.
[21:34] <TheLostAdmin> There are probably radius servers that will use a UNIX/LINUX local user database as their back-end. I'm just not familiar with any of them anymore.
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