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[7:43] <M`vy> Morning
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[8:44] <cavac> I'm running some services on Raspbian (automated startup from /etc/rc.local) without a screen connected.
[8:46] <cavac> How can i read keyboard input? I want to connect a numeric keypad and let the user select between different programs (by punching in a two- or three-digit code)
[8:46] <cavac> s/programs/modes/
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[8:54] <M`vy> You mean you want a program that runs at boot and read keys?
[8:55] <cavac> Yes, exactly.
[8:56] <cavac> Don't want to login or a screen even.
[8:56] <M`vy> You'd probably have to write your own service I guess
[8:57] <cavac> What do you mean? The program itself is already running as a background service.
[8:58] <cavac> I only need to know how to access the keyboard input.
[8:58] <lordievader> cavac: It needs to hijack the keyboard input though...
[8:58] <M`vy> Oh you have a service running. My bad
[8:58] <M`vy> Is this your own service ?
[8:59] <lordievader> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/94322/is-it-possible-for-a-daemon-i-e-background-process-to-look-for-key-presses-fr
[8:59] <cavac> Yup.
[9:00] <M`vy> lordievader: stackexchange, now we're talking :))
[9:00] <M`vy> Seems like a good answer as well
[9:00] <cavac> lordievader: Ah, nice article. Gonna test that right now :-)
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[9:18] <cavac> lordievader: Seems to work quite nicely.
[9:19] <cavac> Thanks!
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[9:20] <lordievader> Cool.
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[10:42] <hellogoodbye> user pi is creating a Bash process at boot, but I can't find where and how...
[10:42] <hellogoodbye> I'm loggin into user root not pi.
[10:42] <hellogoodbye> if I try to kill the process it just starts back up under different PID
[10:42] <hellogoodbye> How can I find out what is creating this bash process???
[10:43] <lordievader> hellogoodbye: ps faux?
[10:45] <hellogoodbye> All it says is "pi 2377 0.3 2.1 5584 3984 tty1 S+ 05:41 0:00 \_ -bash"
[10:46] <hellogoodbye> everthing else is being ran under different user
[10:46] <lordievader> The a flag should show all of the processes.
[10:47] <lordievader> Unless you are running a custom kernel.
[10:47] <hellogoodbye> nope; just regular Raspbian
[10:47] <Jusii> what's the line above that?
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[10:47] <Jusii> \_ means it's a child of the process above it
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[10:48] <hellogoodbye> http://pastebin.com/EVQbakb3
[10:49] <lordievader> There are two bash processes one spawn by login the other by sshd.
[10:50] <hellogoodbye> but why is the user pi spawing a login
[10:50] <hellogoodbye> when I'm not even using that user
[10:50] <lordievader> It is probably set to auto login.
[10:50] <hellogoodbye> idk how it would get set to auto login, but how to I removed the auto login
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[10:51] <lordievader> I thought you could set that in the raspi-config thingie.
[10:52] <hellogoodbye> if so I never did it. and I've check the /etc/inittab nothing set in there
[10:54] <hellogoodbye> I just looked at raspi-config and do not see an option for auto-login
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[10:54] <hellogoodbye> There is boot to desktop but I never use the desktop
[10:58] <hellogoodbye> nothing in lightdm.conf either - auto-login is commented out
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[11:00] <lordievader> Anything in /etc/rc.local?
[11:01] <lordievader> Concerning the login utility.
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[11:08] <hellogoodbye> nope. just some stuff for the RTC
[11:09] <lordievader> Hmm, well something is fireing 'login' up, but I'm not sure what.
[11:10] <hellogoodbye> yeah I can't find it either
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[11:10] <hellogoodbye> this pi is pretty much just used for GPIO test and trying out new HATS
[11:10] <hellogoodbye> idk why it would be loggin into pi for
[11:11] <hellogoodbye> I'll just format the microSD and start over
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[11:12] <hellogoodbye> Thnx for trying to help lordievader
[11:12] <lordievader> No problem. Too bad we couldn't find the culprit.
[11:13] <hellogoodbye> right, but luckily nothing major lost by a fresh install..
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[19:09] <brianx> my Pi2 comes in today. i see that there are no official raspbian jessie images (that i can find.) is there a recommended path to jessie for a new install?
[19:10] <vagrantc> depends on how adventurous you are...
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[19:11] <brianx> my old 256mb B+ is running jessie. my 512mb B+ has wheezy still, so a little adventurous but not bleeeding adventurous...
[19:14] <vagrantc> i *think* you should just be able to upgrade it in place...
[19:15] <brianx> there's nothing on the SD card. it's as blank as amazon ships em.
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[19:16] <brianx> so the *normal* path is just install wheezy, edit raspi.list and update?
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[19:23] <brianx> is there a reason to run raspbian instead of debian arm or arch on a pi2? raspi-config is nice to have but not critical and i use omxplayer all the time but hope the raspberry flavor can be installed anywhere.
[19:24] <brianx> or is the pi2 still different enough that it's better to run a distro specifically targeted to it?
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[19:27] <vagrantc> brianx: the pi2 supports debian armhf ... but you'll still need to get the kernel from raspbian. not sure if omxplayer will work with debian's armhf or not.
[19:27] <vagrantc> it should, but who knows.
[19:31] <brianx> ok, sounds like an opportunity to experiment. thank you for the assistance.
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[19:45] <aurelien_> hi all
[19:51] <aurelien_> I have a problem with a very slow boot with raspbian
[19:51] <aurelien_> 4.1.6-v7+
[19:51] <aurelien_> dmesg shows that there is something hanging for ~25 sec
[19:52] <aurelien_> from 3.5s to 30,03s
[19:53] <aurelien_> just after the line "[3.528521] random: udevd urandom read with 83 bits of entropy available"
[19:53] <aurelien_> does someone have an idea (I can post the entire dmesg log if needed)
[19:54] <diederik> a bit of a wild guess, but something in your boot process needs random data, which is not sufficiently available
[19:54] <diederik> with bootchart2 (and optionally pybootchartgui) you can track the boot process in detail
[19:56] <aurelien_> I'm uploading the dmesg in 1 minute on pastebin
[19:56] <diederik> what may help in collecting random data is installing rng-tools and add 'bcm2708-rng" to /etc/modules
[19:58] <aurelien_> http://pastebin.com/MRFjNJht
[19:58] <aurelien_> Ok I will have a look on it right now
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[20:02] <aurelien_> Reboot in progress after loading bcm2708-rng in /etc/modules
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[20:03] <aurelien_> hum didn't change anything
[20:03] <aurelien_> (I followed this tuto: _http://scruss.com/blog/2013/06/07/well-that-was-unexpected-the-raspberry-pis-hardware-random-number-generator/)
[20:04] <aurelien_> @diederik did you see something wrong in the previously posted dmesg output?
[20:05] <diederik> no not really. It basically confirmed my guess
[20:06] <diederik> does "lsmod | grep rng" return something?
[20:06] <aurelien_> yes
[20:06] <aurelien_> bcm2708_rng
[20:07] <aurelien_> so its seems the module is properly loaded
[20:07] <aurelien_> (despite the name is with _ instead of -)
[20:09] <diederik> what does "dmesg | grep random" return?
[20:09] <diederik> are you running wheezy or jessie?
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[20:11] <aurelien_> here is the output of "dmesg | grep random":
[20:11] <aurelien_> [ 3.488878] random: udevd urandom read with 84 bits of entropy available [ 30.032546] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
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[20:12] <aurelien_> ANd I'm not sure the which of wheezy or jessie I'm running
[20:13] <vagrantc> cat /etc/debian_version
[20:13] <aurelien_> cat /proc/version returns Linux version 4.1.6-v7+ (dc4@dc4-XPS13-9333) (gcc version 4.8.3 20140303 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1+bzr2650 - Linaro GCC 2014.03) ) #810 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 18 15:32:12 BST 2015
[20:13] <aurelien_> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.0
[20:14] <diederik> that's jessie
[20:14] <aurelien_> thanks @vagrantc
[20:14] <diederik> how did you install the system?
[20:15] <aurelien_> Months ago with an image
[20:15] <aurelien_> and then several updates
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[20:15] <diederik> are you on a Pi 2?
[20:15] <aurelien_> I modified the repo list to be able to compile some modules
[20:16] <aurelien_> (to download the expected version of gcc)
[20:16] <aurelien_> Yes it's a pi 2
[20:16] <diederik> ah ok, so you manually upgraded to jessie
[20:16] <aurelien_> possible :)
[20:17] <aurelien_> just installed bootchart2
[20:20] <aurelien_> So you think it is related to generation of random values?
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[20:21] <diederik> that seems to be the most plausable cause since 26.5 seconds are between 2 msgs about random
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[20:21] <aurelien_> ok
[20:22] <aurelien_> I'm rebooting with bootchart2
[20:22] <diederik> systemctl status rng-tools.service
[20:22] <aurelien_> command not found
[20:23] <aurelien_> (and regarding bootchart2 => I got an error when running pybootchartgui after rebbot)
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[20:35] <aurelien_> @diederik looking how to enable systemctl with raspbian
[20:36] <diederik> systemctl is a systemd thing, but you're probably running sysv-init
[20:36] <aurelien_> yes
[20:36] <aurelien_> apt-get install systemd systemd-sysv
[20:36] <aurelien_> I'm trying that
[20:37] <aurelien_> good idea?
[20:37] <diederik> not sure
[20:37] <aurelien_> ah
[20:38] <aurelien_> what would be the option to solve this issue
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[20:38] <aurelien_> or rather, is using system a possible workaround?
[20:38] <diederik> you would be replacing your init system, which may make your system unbootable
[20:38] <aurelien_> *systemd
[20:39] <diederik> otoh systemd starts processes in paralel, which may indeed fix your issue
[20:39] <aurelien_> Ok, cancelled the install ^^
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[20:40] <Vorpal> What about raspbian jessie, is that a thing yet? Or are we still on wheezy for the foreseeable future?
[20:40] <aurelien_> The problem is that I do not really know what is the cause of the issue
[20:41] <aurelien_> so starting process in parallel will not go through a process hanging for 25sec
[20:41] <aurelien_> (that's what I suppose)
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[20:42] <aurelien_> @Vorpal Is it a question for me?
[20:42] <diederik> that may indeed be the case
[20:42] <Vorpal> Well, if you feel able to answer it, sure? It was to the channel in general
[20:42] <Vorpal> Hoping someone knew
[20:43] <aurelien_> @Vorpal not really able to answer sorry ^^
[20:43] <Vorpal> Kay
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[20:45] <diederik> aurelien_: I wonder why it's taking so long with you. On my Pi 2 I get this: https://paste.debian.net/311713/
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[20:46] <aurelien_> @diederik looks better indeed
[20:46] <aurelien_> an normal ^^
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[20:46] <aurelien_> *and
[20:47] <aurelien_> random: udevd urandom read with 84 bits of entropy available => you have 67bits
[20:47] <aurelien_> may it be related?
[20:47] <aurelien_> I mean hughe computation on more bits
[20:48] <aurelien_> power of 2
[20:48] <aurelien_> or else
[20:48] <diederik> where do you get the power of 2 from?
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[20:49] <aurelien_> nowhere
[20:49] <aurelien_> just a supposition
[20:50] <aurelien_> to try explaining why it may take longer
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[20:50] <aurelien_> with this difference between our 2 conf
[20:50] <diederik> it could be that your system actually needs (-> is waiting for) some random, while mine doesn't. I have no idea how to figure out which program/process that would be though
[20:52] <aurelien_> ok
[20:52] <aurelien_> anyway thank you very much for your help
[20:52] <diederik> your 84 vs my 67 indicates that you have more available, thus should be ready earlier
[20:53] <aurelien_> ok, still weirder
[20:55] <diederik> yeah :-P
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[20:59] <aurelien_> trying dist-upgrade
[20:59] <aurelien_> will see
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[21:15] <diederik> are you using a serial console?
[21:21] <aurelien_> no ssh
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[21:21] <diederik> ah ok, I saw "uart-pl011" in your dmesg that wasn't present in mine
[21:22] <aurelien_> hum
[21:22] <aurelien_> in fact this RPi is used to display on an OLED screen through SPI bus
[21:23] <aurelien_> may it be related?
[21:23] <aurelien_> I disabled any option related to spi
[21:23] <aurelien_> and disabled any custom module loading to be sure they were not related with the slow boot issue
[21:24] <diederik> do you know what the "fuse init" line is coming from?
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[21:24] <aurelien_> no idea :S
[21:25] <aurelien_> and not a lot of answer by googling
[21:29] <aurelien_> Depending on the result of dist-upgrade
[21:29] <aurelien_> which is verry long
[21:29] <aurelien_> I will reinstall a fresh image
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[21:29] <aurelien_> switch to jessie only to download gcc-4.8
[21:30] <aurelien_> and be back to whezzy
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[21:58] <aurelien_> thanks again @diederik
[21:58] <aurelien_> ++
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[22:04] <diederik> yw. sorry we couldn't find a proper solution
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[22:08] <aurelien_> @diederik back because dist-upgrade just ended. Boot completes in 12 seconds
[22:08] <aurelien_> *12 sec
[22:08] <aurelien_> no more hang!
[22:11] <aurelien_> and second boot : 8.4s!
[22:11] <aurelien_> amazing
[22:11] <aurelien_> thanks again, see you!
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[22:13] <diederik> that's great :)
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