#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-09-19

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[2:58] <niston> tee hee!
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[3:34] <crossfire0mega> hi all
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[4:24] <crossfire0mega> anyone there?
[4:24] <mybalzitch> nope
[4:24] <crossfire0mega> darn..
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[4:26] <crossfire0mega> do you by chance know how to compile drivers for an rtl8192eu wifi adapter
[4:28] <methuzla> download. run make. download missing dependencies. try again. repeat until success.
[4:32] <crossfire0mega> how do I do the download part?
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[4:33] <crossfire0mega> like where do I find the downloads for my specific wifi adapter?
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[4:53] <methuzla> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu
[4:54] <methuzla> wait. wrong number.
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[4:57] <methuzla> maybe https://github.com/jpostma/rtl8192eu
[4:57] <methuzla> and modify Makefile for platform
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[7:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:37] <alkisg> Hi, how can I boot NOOBS_lite with qemu?
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[9:45] <lordievader> alkisg: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37386
[9:46] <alkisg> lordievader: I'm having a problem with this step: Linux kernel for Qemu - http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/kernel-qemu
[9:46] <alkisg> It says, page not found
[9:46] <alkisg> Isn't the kernel supposed to be inside the sd image?
[9:46] <alkisg> Can't I losetup/loop mount it and get the kernel from there?
[9:46] <lordievader> That is because there is nothing on that blog.
[9:47] <lordievader> alkisg: It is, it sits on the first partition.
[9:47] <alkisg> lordievader: I'm trying to follow the steps from the link you gave me...
[9:47] <alkisg> So I didn't understand this: "(12:46:50 μμ) lordievader: That is because there is nothing on that blog."
[9:47] <alkisg> How can I follow the steps you gave me then?
[9:47] <KushS> my network card detects each and every network but my own, how can I fix this ?
[9:48] <KushS> using a tp link wn722n
[9:48] <lordievader> alkisg: Ah, there is the link coming from. I'd pull the kernel from the image then.
[9:48] <alkisg> Thanks, trying... I'll also use losetup instead of random numbers in the mount command
[9:50] <lordievader> alkisg: Or use kpartx, is easier.
[9:50] <alkisg> lordievader: to get the kernel?
[9:51] <alkisg> Two kernels inside the first partition, kernel.img and kernel7.img
[9:52] <alkisg> The forum says "arm1176", would that be kernel7?
[9:52] <lordievader> alkisg: To mount it (kpartx).
[9:53] <lordievader> alkisg: Since you are going to use qemu it shouldn't matter. You should research what the difference is.
[9:53] <alkisg> qemu: could not load kernel 'kernel-qemu'
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[9:54] <alkisg> -machine help says it supports various boards, maybe I need to specify this?
[9:55] <alkisg> Maybe the forum instructions are too old and don't apply to recent qemu versions?
[9:55] <alkisg> E.g. this is accepted: -machine cubieboard -cpu arm1176...
[9:55] <lordievader> alkisg: Is your kernel named 'kernel-qemu'?
[9:55] <alkisg> whoops sorry
[9:56] <alkisg> OK I tried both kernel and kernel7, both just show a qemu window with a black screen...
[9:56] <plugwash> AIUI a kernel intended for the Pi will not work with a normal version of qemu (I belive there was a fork out there that added pi emulation)
[9:57] <alkisg> plugwash: I think I found that "kernel-qemu" somewhere in github, should I try that one?
[9:57] <plugwash> probabblly worth a try
[9:58] <alkisg> ty, trying...
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[10:01] <alkisg> lordievader, plugwash, this kernel booted: https://github.com/dhruvvyas90/qemu-rpi-kernel
[10:02] <alkisg> Now it's stuck in a loop loading init, but I think I'll be able to fight it now... :)
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[10:12] <alkisg> So to sum up, https://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/267-testing-raspberry-pi-images-with-qemu and https://github.com/dhruvvyas90/qemu-rpi-kernel
[10:12] <alkisg> The forum thread is badly written and outdated, it should be marked as such... :)
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[10:17] <alkisg> Am I supposed to be able to launch Xorg inside Kvm, or it doesn't emulate the PI's graphic system at all?
[10:26] <lordievader> alkisg: The forum post is from 2013, what do you expect ;)
[10:27] <alkisg> lordievader: well, you shouldn't give that link to people here then :)
[10:27] <lordievader> If the pi has a driver for QXL there is a chance.
[10:27] <alkisg> !learn qemu as https://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/267-testing-raspberry-pi-images-with-qemu and https://github.com/dhruvvyas90/qemu-rpi-kernel
[10:27] <lordievader> alkisg: Meh, it was more in the direction of getting you started.
[10:27] <alkisg> I did find that in google and got stuck *before* coming to irc :)
[10:28] <alkisg> Thanks for your time though
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[10:32] <alkisg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77bhpDsPuGw shows the booted Xorg inside qemu... that's good
[10:32] <alkisg> *they
[10:32] * plugwash suspects that with real pi's being readilly available there isn't much demand for running pi images in qemu anymore
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[10:33] <plugwash> qemu provides a framebuffer so xorg should work, don't expect any accelerated graphics or expect the raspberry pi specific libaries for 3D, video etc to work though
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[10:37] * alkisg doesn't have a real pi but is just looking to support it a bit better upstream in LTSP
[10:40] <plugwash> The trouble is what you emulate won't be close enough to a real pi to really prove very much.
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[10:47] <alkisg> Got an xterm, cool :)
[10:48] <alkisg> Ah, and the full desktop with startx!
[10:50] <lordievader> Ain't it easier to just by a Pi for $40 or so?
[10:51] <alkisg> I don't even have a monitor with an hdmi input here at work...
[10:51] <alkisg> I only want to support the installation + netbooting parts, I don't want to check any application software as that part won't be affected
[10:53] <alkisg> It doesn't use an initrd by default? I only see the 2 kernels in /dev/sda1...
[10:57] * alkisg waves for now...
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[11:22] <metaspike> what's a low resource way to check imap address for email?
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[11:28] <MarkusDBX> 4k @ 15hz on the pi2? Easy and doable? I saw some guides online but just like to confirm with you guys.
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[11:42] <ktwo> MarkusDBX, can the hdmi output 4k?
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[11:46] <lordievader> I thought hdmi was spec'd till 1080p.
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[13:31] <diederik> plugwash: is linux-image-3.18.0-trunk-rpi_3.18.5-1~exp1+rpi19 for stretch?
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[15:23] <Brie_> Hi
[15:24] <Brie_> How im gonna get install bitcoin core to my rasbian OS?
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[15:31] <Brie_> Can somebody help me?
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[16:05] <ppq> ok
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[16:16] <rockstar_> does raspberry pi include any sound card. cat /proc/asound/cards gives - bcm2835 - bcm2835 ALSA
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[16:21] <rockstar_> I'm trying to record sound from raspberry pi hooked up with usb mic. How can I do it?
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[16:49] <rockstar_> how can I set quality to record with arecord?
[16:50] <rockstar_> I'm just trying to reduce file size
[16:50] <rockstar_> is everyone sleeping here?
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[17:34] <gordonDrogon> rockstar_, yup. mostly asleep.
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[17:49] <plugwash> diederik, it should be for all releases
[17:51] <diederik> oh ok. I updated my jessie system and it was still at +rpi16
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[17:53] <diederik> https://paste.debian.net/312477/
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[17:59] <diederik> It's not very import (to me) though. Just noticed it when I wanted to get the linux-source-3.18 package
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[21:01] <diederik> if someone is interested in a kernel suitable for use in QEMU (including the sources), I have made one here: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/raspbian-kernel/releases/tag/kernel-source-3.18.5-1-exp1%2Brpi16-qemu
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[21:02] <gordonDrogon> not used qemu since before I got a Pi. I guess people are still using it though...
[21:03] <diederik> Earlier today someone was asking for it and I had made a qemu-kernel before, but that was a 3.12 kernel. So now I have updated it to 3.18
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[21:05] <gordonDrogon> rpi-update is diving 4.1.7 now...
[21:05] <gordonDrogon> *giving.
[21:06] <diederik> LOL I knew someone would bring that up :-P
[21:07] <diederik> the latest released kernel by raspberrypi.org is also 4.1. Maybe I'll try to make that one too sometimes, but not tonight
[21:08] <teclo-> hmmm wierd I got a 3.18.0 kernel on my Pi 2
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[21:09] <diederik> it depends on how you got your kernel and/or how you installed your system and whether you've upgraded recently
[21:09] <ragedragon> Hello the room,
[21:09] <teclo-> ah but sorry, :) my Pi 2 isn't running raspbian but plain Debian GNU/Linux 8.2 ;)
[21:10] <gordonDrogon> I did an rpi-update the other day to see what's what.
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[21:11] <diederik> teclo-: cool! How did you do that?
[21:11] <teclo-> diederik: hm there was some link of some image someone gave on #raspberrypi
[21:12] <diederik> http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ ?
[21:12] <ragedragon> does one of you know if a kodi package using kodi.bin built for armv7 is compatible with armv6 instructions?
[21:12] <ragedragon> i think no but I prefer to be sure
[21:12] <ragedragon> kodi.bin from Groven repo (kodi) is built for armv7
[21:12] <ragedragon> a simple readelf or objdump indicates somes undefined instructions...
[21:18] <ragedragon> readelf -A kodi.bin shows armv7 arch/VFPv3/NEONv1 ... this arm feature are not compatible with the armv6 arch.
[21:18] <ppq> if it is build for armv7 it will not work on v6
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[21:23] <ragedragon> ppq, it is strange as i never had big problem on my rpi1 exept the youtube plugin but it is an other story...
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[21:23] <teclo-> diederik: I think so yes
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[21:25] <diederik> teclo-: ah ok, thought so.
[21:25] <teclo-> yes that image doesn't support armv6 only armv7
[21:25] <diederik> ragedragon: it depends whether a program actually uses instructions which are available only on armv7.
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[21:26] <diederik> teclo-: correct. Debian's armhf is targetted to armv7, hence the creation of raspbian
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[21:28] <ragedragon> diederik, you means that it is possible to specify during the compilation or build to not use armv7 instructions on armv6 cpu?
[21:30] <diederik> I don't know much about these things, but I think programs are always compiled for a certain architecture/instruction set, defaulting to the one you're currently running
[21:30] <teclo-> well yes, when you run gcc, you can specify for which arch you build
[21:31] <teclo-> that's especially the case of cross-compilers
[21:31] <diederik> yep, used ARCH=arm to compile the qemu kernel
[21:35] <ragedragon> diederik, teclo- , ok understood, i built my own tool chain cross compiler using the last gcc revision 5.2
[21:35] <ragedragon> if needed: https://github.com/Cheb57
[21:35] <ragedragon> using ct-ng
[21:36] <ragedragon> i'm now wondering if i will try start the cross compilation for kodi
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[21:39] <ragedragon> what i'm trying to understand is why the kodi.bin did not crash or the kernel is not trig an error owing illegal instructions on my rpi1
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[23:28] <nburn42> Has anyone gotten stereo rasb-compute cameras working with opencv?
[23:30] <nburn42> I've tried uv4l, v4l2, and python picamera so far without much luck.
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